IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2014-09-29

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todd1so, I've got this used N900. of course, it's got a broken charger port. though, it connects if twisted in the right way. does that mean that just reinforcement is required, or will I have to re-solder it?09:20
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Luke-Jrtodd1: what's the difference? reinforcement is best with solder anyway <.<10:07
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todd1Luke-Jr: I mean: is it best to remove it from the socket (is that very hard?) to ensure proper connection, or do you think I can just "make it stick" with additional solder?10:11
Luke-Jrtodd1: I wouldn't advise removing it, but I'm no hardware expert10:12
todd1do you know where the contact is? it's hard to see from the pictures (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920)10:18
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todd1my contact is loose at the port side10:20
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zGrrmoin :)13:35
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SiceloN900 having problems with my work Wi-Fi is now becoming a big problem. wpa_supplicant works, but the battery wouldn't last any reasonable time with it18:44
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Capsulehello19:00
Capsulei am back about Nokia N900 flashing ...19:01
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Capsuleafter check all english tuto (i found French' one :p ) , youtube video and download last EMMC '.bin19:02
Capsulei will try with lot of emotion19:03
Capsuleand nothing ...19:03
freemangordonCapsule: "nothing"?19:03
Capsuleyes19:03
freemangordonelaborate please19:03
Capsulei install flasher19:03
freemangordonwhat is the output from the flasher?19:04
Capsule2 sec , i write all in same line :p19:04
freemangordonpastebin it19:04
freemangordonotherwise mods may become angry at you19:04
CapsulexD19:05
Capsulenothing when i push "u" on phone , i start $flasher -F RX52####PR.bin -f from terminal ( i was download it from http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/ , flasher_3.12.1_amd64.deb for x64 bit) , after it told me " Suitable USB device not found, waiting... " , i put usb cable on phone (without start it) and i press "u" => nokia on screen of phone , but nothing on terminal ...19:09
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jimbowhi19:10
freemangordonCapsule: you need flasher 3.5 ;)19:11
freemangordon3.12 is for n9/5019:11
Capsuleho19:11
Capsulebut19:11
jimbowIs it possible to turn on app names on n900 homescreen?19:11
freemangordon~cssu19:12
infobot[cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU19:12
Capsulefreemangordon , thx , i will try to find it , before i try  but only x32 bit , and it didn't work :(19:13
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freemangordonCapsule: I am on ubuntu 14.04 64bit and it works ;)19:14
Capsulehmmm19:14
Capsuleapt-get install flasher-3.5 ?19:14
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freemangordonno, dpkg -i $FLASHER_DEB19:15
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freemangordonthat one (i guess) http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/flasher_3.12.1_i386.deb19:15
freemangordonoops19:15
freemangordonnot that one19:15
CapsulexD19:15
freemangordonthat one http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb19:15
Capsulebetter :) thx19:15
freemangordonwhat is your distro?19:15
Capsulesame to u19:16
Capsuleubuntu19:16
Capsulelast one19:16
freemangordonif you click on the .deb software center should install it as well19:16
freemangordonbut it is better to use dpkg19:17
freemangordonthough you'll have to satisfy dependencies by hand (with dpkg)19:17
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Capsulei can't use dpkg19:19
freemangordonwhy?19:19
Capsuleit download on software center19:19
freemangordonCapsule: first uninstall version 3.1219:19
Capsule =/19:20
Capsulewow19:20
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Capsuleat the nice moment :D it talk me about installation :D19:20
Capsulei didn't find it :(19:23
freemangordonCapsule: open a terminal19:24
freemangordonwrite "dpkg -l | grep flasher" without quotes19:24
freemangordonyou'll get the package name19:24
freemangordonthen write "sudo dpkg -- purge $THE_NAME_FROM_THE_ABOVE_COMMAND"19:25
freemangordongo to the directory you've downloaded flasher 3.5 .deb19:26
Capsule:D19:26
freemangordonwrite "sudo dpkg -i $THE_NAME_OF_THE_DEB"19:26
freemangordonsatisfy the missing dependencies by using apt-get19:26
Capsule:)19:27
freemangordonI guess the easiest way will be to simply install wine :)19:27
Capsulei have it19:27
freemangordonit will bring a whole lot of 386 libs19:27
freemangordonthen you shouldn't have missing dependencies19:27
Capsulebut lot of problem for game , so i stop to use it ^^19:27
freemangordonwell, IDA works with wine, that is enough for me :)19:28
Capsule:)19:29
Capsuleabout $THE_NAME  , it's $flasher ??19:30
freemangordonwhat?19:30
freemangordonfor which command?19:30
freemangordon"dpkg -i"?19:30
Capsule-- purge19:30
freemangordonread once again what I wrote, please19:31
freemangordonor better pastebin the result of "dpkg -l | grep flasher"19:31
Capsuleokok i go check translation :p19:31
freemangordonno, don't, do ^^^19:32
freemangordonI'll give you the exact command19:32
Capsulehttp://pastebin.com/3uR0m7Ga19:35
freemangordonCapsule: there is no space between -- and purge19:36
Capsule-____-19:36
Capsule;)19:36
freemangordonalso, the command should be "sudo dpkg --purge flasher"19:36
Capsulewithout "$" befor flasher ?19:37
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Capsulebefore19:37
freemangordonyou tell me19:37
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freemangordon$ means a variable19:38
freemangordonin short19:38
freemangordonin shell scripts that is19:38
freemangordon"$THE_NAME_FROM_THE_ABOVE_COMMAND" == "flasher" in your case19:39
Capsuledpkg: error : database dpkg status database is locked by another process19:39
freemangordonman, come on, close that software center :(19:39
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Capsulei start with this19:39
CapsulexD19:39
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freemangordonyour next command is "sudo dpkg -i maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb"19:40
freemangordonmake sure you're in the same directory you've downloaded it19:41
Capsulebut after close , same think19:41
Capsuleok ok :) , i looking on $top but nothing :/19:41
Capsulei will try to reboot i think19:41
CapsuleLOOL19:41
freemangordondon't19:42
freemangordonthis is not windows19:42
Capsuleinstall of Flasher3.5 in standby XD19:42
Capsulesry19:42
Capsulebetter :)19:42
Capsuleperfect :D19:43
Capsulei love it19:43
freemangordondid it install?19:44
Capsule:D i install it19:44
todd1Capsule: sometime you've got time: http://linuxcommand.org/ :)19:44
freemangordonyeah, might help19:45
Capsulethx todd119:47
Capsule... grey and purple , gnu for configuration but what i do ? lol19:47
Capsulecan i  "ctrl-c" ?19:48
Capsulelol19:48
Capsulepardon about this , i am too emotional :D19:49
CapsuleOOOOOKKKK19:49
Capsulenow i can try again :D19:49
Capsulei hope not hell for my phone :) (3 month for receveid it from singapore , first one didn't start .. ) like children before christmas day , when they wait their present :)19:52
freemangordonthere is no way to brick n90019:52
freemangordonthe worst you can do is to ruin the CAL partition, but you can't do that with flasher19:53
freemangordon(iirc)19:53
Capsule:)19:55
Capsuleonly software :)19:55
APic=)19:57
Capsulebut about batterie lol19:59
Capsulethey fly to fast19:59
Capsulebattery19:59
Capsulewho are you freemangordon  ?19:59
Capsulepassionate and amateur of maemo ?20:00
Capsuleor you work for it ?20:00
Capsulework for compagny ?20:00
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Capsuleor just nice minder in gottam city :p20:02
freemangordonCapsule: well, who am I... Lets say I really like my N900 :)20:02
Capsulehéhé20:02
freemangordonyou can check my signature on TMO20:02
CapsuleTMO ?20:03
freemangordontalk.maemo.org20:03
Capsulelike whois ?20:03
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Capsule:)20:05
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todd1I see there is N900 features implemented in Linux 3.16. is it customary to use the new kernels at the N900, or is a compiler(er)'s toy?20:07
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Capsule:D20:08
Capsulehttp://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=35969 , "enchanté" ! :)20:09
freemangordontodd1: 3.16 (and newer) have almost everything n900 working20:09
freemangordonthough maemo needs a couple of tweaks to be able to boot it20:09
Capsulewhy i beleive you from US lol20:09
Capsulewhy i beleived you from US lol20:09
freemangordonno idea20:10
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Capsule:p20:10
Capsuleabout "central-europe"20:10
Capsulefrom emmc version20:10
freemangordontodd1: check on elinux, there is git tree you can clone and have even SGX working20:10
freemangordontodd1: http://elinux.org/N90020:11
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todd1also, the modem stuff, is it able to operate the modem on it's own, or is it still just interfacing the binary Rapuyama?20:11
freemangordonthe last I booted (didn;t try newer) was 3.17-rcSOMETHING20:11
freemangordonit is still just interfacing20:12
todd1ah. but you surely compile this yourself? is all the info at eLinux?20:12
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freemangordonwhich info? what works and what not? sure20:13
freemangordonjust open that link ^^^20:13
freemangordonBTW in 3.18 there should be massive improvement related to power management, at least on what I saw on linux-omap ML20:14
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todd1ah. nice. so the drivers are being ported from Nokia's custom 2.6.28 to mainline? because they've surely released the code?20:16
todd1and, what can the Nokia driver do? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcwNzY20:17
freemangordontodd1: the same what it does in 2.6.28 kernel20:17
freemangordonI was able to get GPS fix with it (with AGPS working). Under maemo that is20:18
freemangordonBTW all the code in Nokia 2.6.28 kernel is FOSS20:19
todd1I've been too lazy to look into what Linux-libre is flencing, but I've taken that the GPLv2 Linux can actually be shipped with binaries, as that project testifies20:21
todd1is there a wiki on what of maemo needs modding?20:22
freemangordonsure20:22
freemangordon~fptf20:22
infoboti heard fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9130820:22
freemangordontodd1: you're a coder?20:23
todd1from time to time :)20:23
freemangordonhehe20:23
freemangordonanyway, I have to leave. night guys20:24
todd1is the workforce behind these recent mainline N900 features targeting N900 or Neo900?20:24
freemangordonI'd say both20:24
todd1freemangordon: thanks man :)20:24
todd1g'night20:25
todd1Capsule: you bougth your phone at eBay?20:25
todd1one of these "brand new"20:25
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Capsuleyes todd120:31
Capsuleabout ebay20:32
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Capsuleafter "brand new" i not remember , but i don't think , before it's very cheap , and other china seller sell this same price than 2009 lol20:33
Capsulenot "before" but because20:33
Capsulelol20:33
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stryngsI love it when SysAdmins be like "Our site is very secure!",20:34
stryngs                 and I be like "No it ain't", and they be like "Uh huh", and I20:34
stryngs                 be like "Nuh uh", and they be like "Yep", and I be like "Do20:34
stryngs                 you even known what ARP is?", and they stop and go "Wha?"20:34
todd1yeah, I don't think there are many new N900s in existance20:35
Capsule:)20:35
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todd1the "new" N900s at eBay are refurbs, I've heard. the IRC logs indicate that as well20:36
Capsulei didn't think , the nokia box is blue ôÖ not black :) and it is not used , with plastic on screen ^^20:36
todd1stryngs: from an external network? to their servers?20:36
Capsulewhat is refurbs ?20:37
stryngsJust in general todd120:37
todd1refurbished. it means someone's fixed up something broken (and most likely used)20:38
todd1stryngs: :)20:38
Capsuleyes20:38
Capsulenumber on phone -____-20:38
Capsuleand ot of music20:38
todd1haha20:38
Capsule^^20:38
Capsulebut like new ...20:38
Capsuleperfect touch and screen20:39
todd1Capsule: I was considering one. it's working okay so far?20:39
Capsule:)20:39
Capsulemy phone work , but i will try to flash him20:39
Capsulebecause lot of application don't run ...20:40
Capsuleabout libqt420:40
todd1but ... all the good music? :(20:40
todd1also, I presume you've read stuff, but anyways: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup20:40
Capsule:D20:40
Capsulecommercial music20:40
Capsulebut lot of eminem song ;)20:40
todd1bah, you go, flash it20:41
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Capsuletodd1 , first phone i receveid by post didn"t work , i send back it . 3 month for captur it :D20:46
todd1:/ yeah. I kindof think it's great that someone refurbishes N900s, but it's a bit risky as well20:48
Capsulein box , with nokia num and plastic around , like new one .. just when you look inside sofware you can know it refurb20:49
Capsuleas new one20:49
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todd1anyone familiar with the USB charger?21:05
todd1*port. mine is nearly broken, it's a used phone.21:06
todd1I've seen the threads, but I'd love to ask a couple of questions to someone with experience :)21:07
nox-~usbfix21:07
infoboti guess usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt21:07
nox-oh well i didnt try is myself, my port still works21:07
nox-s/is/it/21:07
infobotnox- meant: oh well i didnt try it myself, my port still works21:07
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todd1mine is not working in normal position, but connects if I bend it so that the back of the port is pushed towards the PBC. so, the port connects at the back of the port?21:12
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nox-this shows the pins:  http://www.dx.com/p/diy-micro-usb-5-pin-female-smt-socket-connector-silver-20-piece-pack-13413221:24
todd1hard to replace with one of those? or is something like this necessary:? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=870017&postcount=2721:26
Capsuledo you know if 'full batterie" for phone before flashing , it's for sofware information  , or just for avoid a bad situation during install of EMMC ?!21:28
nox-Capsule, its the flashing itself afaik that needs enough battery charge21:29
nox-todd1, i dont know more that was is posted on that thread myself...21:30
todd1thanks anyways. pins help21:31
nox-np21:33
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Capsuleokey thx nox-  !21:37
nox-Capsule, the n900 is kinda unusual(?) in that it needs the cpu's help to charge the battery so it needs to boot first21:39
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kerionox-: it actually happens for a fuckton of phones and embedded devices21:41
kerioespecially those that only have a musb port for charging21:41
Sicelonox-: not really.. most other phones need the phone to be on to a certain 'level21:41
sixwheeledbeast~actdead21:42
Siceloremember Nokia N-Gage .. if its C drive was full, it is bricked. that was becuase then it couldn't boot, and you couldnt charge it either21:42
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nox-ouch21:52
nox-kerio, hm yeah maybe its common for phones, still doesnt make it sound very wise21:53
kerioprobably not21:53
Capsuleit didn't want to be flashed !21:53
keriobut alas21:53
timelesskerio: ping21:54
kerioit's not a big problem if the battery is actually removable21:54
keriotimeless: pong!21:54
timelessdo you know what the default shell is on Sailfish?21:54
nox-thats true i guess21:54
Capsulewhen i press "u" , nothing21:54
timelessis it busybox? :)21:54
kerioi don't21:54
keriowtf is sailfish21:54
timelessknow anyone who would?21:54
timelesshttps://sailfishos.org/21:54
nox-busybox uses bash code too?21:54
keriooh the jolla shit21:55
todd1afair (read), no, busybox doesn't21:55
timelesskerio: yeah, jolla21:55
nox-ah ok21:55
timelessnox-: no, busybox isn't bash21:55
nox-ok, good21:55
timelessit has its own sh (which you could turn off and replace w/ bash if you were so inclined)21:55
timelessapparently Tizen did that :o21:55
* nox- was thinking of the recent bash holes...21:56
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Capsulefreemangordon, :( nothing when i press ''u' key .. only 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.'21:57
kerioCapsule: did you remove the battery21:57
kerioalso did you blacklist cdc_phonet21:57
kerioalso why am i not using question marks21:57
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Capsule???!21:58
Capsulei will go to translate what u tell21:58
Capsule1 sec21:58
Capsuleokey22:00
Capsulenot , my battery is full22:00
todd1though, if it isn't implemented similarly: either bb dev discovered the holes and was a douche and did not notify bash devs, or he has done something similar and dangerous, or he (it's one dude, no?) has by accident just not enabled them. which is more probable?22:00
Capsulein the phone22:00
timelessnox-: you aren't alone22:00
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timelesshttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CIyUoZEi22:00
timelessnox-: ^ that's my draft message about phone platforms22:00
kerioCapsule: once you've started flasher on your pc22:02
keriodisconnect n90022:02
kerioremove battery22:02
keriohold u22:02
kerioplug in n90022:02
kerioput in battery22:02
Capsuleare u sure kerio ...22:05
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nox-timeless, nice :)22:10
* timeless adds WebOS (bourne, not bash)22:10
timelessnox-: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/09/shellshock-bug-spells-trouble-for-web-security/comment-page-1/#comment-29554522:15
inztimeless, jolla has bash as /bin/sh22:15
timelessinz: awesome22:15
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Capsulenothing kerio ..22:15
Capsulejust red light22:15
Capsulein begin22:16
Capsulebut all time it stop to "Suitable USB device not found, waiting."22:16
inztimeless, and still vulnerable22:16
timelessinz: of course :)22:16
timelessto be fair, my Mac is still vulnerable :)22:16
timelessinz: how's life?22:17
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CapsuleKERIO !!22:20
Capsulesry for keylock ,22:20
kerioNO PROBLEM MAN22:20
Capsulemy phone make reset22:20
Capsulenothing in my unbuntu terminal , i plug N900 and start it for see22:21
Capsuleand it's configuration start menu22:21
drathirbtw using correct flasher?22:22
Capsuleyes ,22:23
drathirand easy that flasher is really smart...22:23
Capsulefreemangordon help me to take last version22:23
Capsulefor my os22:23
drathircan i ask which os used?22:24
Capsuleit no reset -__- just ask me date and hours ..22:24
todd1unbuntu, it seems22:24
Capsuleyes22:24
drathirdmesg22:25
drathirfrom console detect connection of device?22:26
Capsuleno22:26
nox-https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/51499187327520768022:26
nox-(no bash in freebsd base)22:26
Capsuleflasher start nice22:27
inztimeless, same old, same job, same wife, and so on :)22:27
Capsulebut my phone is never detected22:27
SiceloCapsule: paste the output ... pastebin somewhere22:27
timelessinz: that's good22:27
inztimeless, you?22:27
Capsuleok22:27
drathirnox-: really freebsd not update of bash?22:28
drathirCapsule: flasher run by root?22:28
Capsulehttp://pastebin.com/MaD8vqeD22:29
nox-drathir, if you want bash on freebsd you have to install it from ports/packages22:29
Capsuleyes22:29
Capsulesudo su22:29
Capsulebefore22:29
drathirnox-: but mean even at port is updated one version?22:29
nox-drathir, the port was updated, sure22:30
drathirnox-: than wth with that post? thats mystery  for me ^^22:30
nox-drathir, the aws image doesnt include bash id say22:31
drathirnox-: "good" reason to kick up2date os which one even dont have like You say bash in base dependencies...22:31
nox-indeed22:31
todd1now you go laugh with them as well22:32
drathir!pastebin22:33
drathir!badpastebin22:33
Capsule?22:33
drathirCapsule: only captcha ;p22:34
Capsulewhat is captcha?22:35
drathiris word confirmation at pastebin for ppl using tor...22:38
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ecc3gwow... the number of shellshock probes increased... sigh.22:38
ecc3gneed to do some more logging.22:38
drathirin that case, but captcha is wide used for word/image/sound confirmation to acess the resources...22:39
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Capsuleokok22:41
drathirCapsule: at lsmod checked no modules loaded?22:42
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Palicmd32 is vulnerable too!22:48
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todd1no fkin way?!22:49
Palihttp://imgur.com/cTD5b5D22:49
Pali:D:D22:49
todd1hahahaha22:49
nox-hahaha22:49
bencoh:D22:50
jaskalol22:51
APic*gg*22:52
todd1timeless: guess you would have to update your bin :_22:54
timelesstodd1: since it's a blog comment, i can't really do that, i left a reply22:54
timeless(to myself)22:54
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Capsulebye bye23:15
Capsulei will try to flash it later23:15
Capsuleas always :D23:16
Capsulegood night/day for u23:16
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