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| capsulecorp | !! | 00:17 |
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| capsulecorp | Hello every body | 00:17 |
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| capsulecorp | buntu , but i just buying Nokia N900 , and i want more option into $bin/ | 00:19 |
| capsulecorp | anyone can be tell me , how can i install app with maemo ? i know $apt get install with u | 00:19 |
| capsulecorp | buntu , but i just buying Nokia N900 , and i want more | 00:19 |
| capsulecorp | option into $bin/ | 00:20 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Quentin-___-_: you still there? | 00:48 |
| Quentin-___-_ | yess sixwheeledbeast | 00:49 |
| Quentin-___-_ | hi | 00:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It's "not recommended" you use apt for Maemo there can be a dependency mess. It's especially important you never "dist-upgrade" | 00:51 |
| Quentin-___-_ | hmm ok | 00:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Best to use the stock application manager, which is slow but trusted. | 00:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 00:51 |
| infobot | well, ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 00:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there are development fixes available via the community aka speedyham | 00:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | did have any other question? | 00:53 |
| Quentin-___-_ | yes | 00:53 |
| Quentin-___-_ | :p | 00:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/did/did you/ | 00:53 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: did you have any other question? | 00:53 |
| Quentin-___-_ | avout ~ham | 00:53 |
| Quentin-___-_ | or speedy ham | 00:53 |
| Quentin-___-_ | how can i see what appz are there ? | 00:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | no, I am not sure I understand "option into $bin" | 00:54 |
| Quentin-___-_ | nothing into Xterminal when i put : $speedyham | 00:54 |
| Quentin-___-_ | yes :) i am on linux since 4 month , it's begin , but i only learn command and shell from Ubuntu ... | 00:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Open the application manager you can install applications from there | 00:55 |
| Quentin-___-_ | yes i saw that after ask :D | 00:55 |
| Quentin-___-_ | thx | 00:55 |
| Quentin-___-_ | but | 00:56 |
| Quentin-___-_ | for exemple | 00:56 |
| Quentin-___-_ | if i want come into #maemo with Xterminal from n900 | 00:56 |
| Quentin-___-_ | can i install "irssi" ?? | 00:56 |
| Quentin-___-_ | it's irc client , only with text into terminal | 00:57 |
| bef0rd | yes you can | 00:57 |
| Sicelo900^6 | yes. i am using it on my N900 .. but to tell the truvh, maybe xchat is better | 00:57 |
| Quentin-___-_ | propably ... | 00:58 |
| Quentin-___-_ | so | 00:58 |
| Quentin-___-_ | if i want Xchat or irssi ? or terminator ?? :D | 00:58 |
| Quentin-___-_ | what can i do ? | 00:58 |
| Quentin-___-_ | fo this | 00:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Quentin-___-_: there are loads of IRC options select the one you prefer. | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there is even a stock one | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | pidgin is also available | 00:59 |
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| Quentin-___-_ | how | 01:00 |
| Quentin-___-_ | ok bad exemple ... | 01:00 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | install them from the application manager | 01:00 |
| Quentin-___-_ | okok :D | 01:00 |
| Quentin-___-_ | more difficult | 01:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | k | 01:01 |
| Quentin-___-_ | if i want "nmap" | 01:01 |
| Quentin-___-_ | ? | 01:01 |
| Quentin-___-_ | or the command $host / $whois / $dig etc ... | 01:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | install it from the application manager, it's no different | 01:02 |
| Quentin-___-_ | it's possible ? | 01:02 |
| Quentin-___-_ | Hooo | 01:02 |
| Quentin-___-_ | okok pardon | 01:02 |
| Quentin-___-_ | i go back on my phone :p | 01:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | nmap 5.50 is available in the application manager from the extras repository | 01:03 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | any terminal applications with work the same as a desktop, just open X-Terminal | 01:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/with/will/ | 01:05 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: any terminal applications will work the same as a desktop, just open X-Terminal | 01:05 |
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| quentinOnN900 | RE ! | 01:06 |
| quentinOnN900 | just wonderfull !!!! | 01:06 |
| Quentin-___-_ | ok thx | 01:07 |
| Quentin-___-_ | see you | 01:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | bye then... | 01:10 |
| Sicelo900^6 | anyone using fuelpad? on my N900 if i use the Statistics menu item fuelpad segfaults | 01:14 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | nope sorry | 02:14 |
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| stryngs | Any reverse engineers lookin to make a quick $500? | 05:51 |
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| Sc0rpius | $500 reversing what | 06:14 |
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| stryngs | hi Sc0rpius | 06:24 |
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| Luke-Jr | stryngs: he asked a question | 08:34 |
| stryngs | Luke-Jr: You're behind the curve dude =) | 08:35 |
| stryngs | Thanks though | 08:35 |
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| useretail | stryngs: reverse what? | 14:14 |
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| freemangordon | does anyone know what is the return value of location_distance_between function in liblocation? | 14:47 |
| freemangordon | I mean - in what units | 14:48 |
| freemangordon | meters? | 14:48 |
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| jonwil | is it not documented in the liblocation documentation? | 15:04 |
| freemangordon | hmm, lemme check | 15:22 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: circle distance | 15:23 |
| freemangordon | whatever it is | 15:23 |
| freemangordon | anyway, the problem is that units are not defined | 15:25 |
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| jonwil | hmmm, every time I think of something to reverse engineer, I end up hitting a snag :( | 15:51 |
| jonwil | pulseaudio is no go (snag is all that floating point) | 15:51 |
| jonwil | osso-wlan-security I got stuck on because eapd is C++ (which makes life harder) and because I dont understand how the underlying protocols work | 15:52 |
| jonwil | powervr is no go because at best all I could ever hope to come up with is a 1:1 clone of some parts of the existing drivers (in the way that https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-product-info/source/cedc233dbf6cc9d2f4197a0928db00edf9b6a687: is basically a 1:1 clone of the stock code) and that doesn't help anyone | 15:55 |
| jonwil | Just having a 1:1 clone of the existing code doesn't help those who actually want a FOSS SGX driver | 15:55 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: you're a bit wrong about osso-product-info - it was already changed to work with upstream kernels ;) | 16:00 |
| jonwil | ok | 16:01 |
| jonwil | but you get what I mean | 16:01 |
| jonwil | these things all started as 1:1 disassemblies/decompiles/whatever | 16:01 |
| jonwil | which is fine for osso-product-info | 16:01 |
| freemangordon | yes, sure, but having the source code is a big step in understanding what it does :) | 16:02 |
| jonwil | yep | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | (not that i think we need powervr drivers source code) | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: then again - what about helping me with nm-navigation-provider? | 16:03 |
| jonwil | seems wierd that of all the mobile GPUs out there the #1 most popular by a wide margin (powervr) is the one with the least work being done towards a FOSS driver... | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: or REing something like clockd | 16:03 |
| jonwil | what is the interest in clockd? | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | we don;t have the source code :) | 16:05 |
| jonwil | but beyond that? | 16:06 |
| jonwil | no point reverse engineering something unless there is a need to either learn secrets of or modify the thing being reverse engineered | 16:07 |
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| dos1 | nm-navigation-provider is pretty much broken now, so REing it could bring a big value ;) | 16:09 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 16:09 |
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| jonwil | Maybe I could pick up my work on libconnui and libconnui_cellular | 16:19 |
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| jonwil | The other problem is that there seems to be no roadmap as to what pieces of the jigsaw are missing for neo900 and which of those missing pieces are the most important targets | 16:25 |
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| kinkin | hello people | 17:27 |
| kinkin | who can tell me waht is root password om maemo 5 (on nokia n900) ??? | 17:28 |
| kinkin | who can tell me what is root password om maemo 5 (on nokia n900) ??? | 17:28 |
| freemangordon | kinkin: what are you trying to do? | 17:28 |
| kinkin | i want use $apt-get install | 17:29 |
| kinkin | but i need to switch sudo su | 17:29 |
| kinkin | and i don't know the password ... | 17:29 |
| kinkin | can u help me freemangordom ? | 17:30 |
| kinkin | can u help me freemangordon ? | 17:30 |
| freemangordon | yep, just a second | 17:30 |
| kinkin | thx :) | 17:31 |
| freemangordon | kinkin: do you have package rootsh installed? | 17:31 |
| kinkin | one other question too .. how can i use the 'Tab' 's key ? for finish name on irssi or finish command name om terminal? | 17:32 |
| kinkin | not , i read this on google , but i coming after try to find it on application market | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | there is "tab" button on the low side of xterm | 17:33 |
| kinkin | loool | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | btw why do you need to apt-get install? | 17:33 |
| kinkin | just in front of my nose lool thx freemangordon | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | just use the application manager to install SW | 17:34 |
| kinkin | okok i will go | 17:34 |
| kinkin | i didn't have answer for the moment | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | kinkin: if you are not much into linux, you'd better not use apt-get, you may relatively easy ruin your SW | 17:35 |
| freemangordon | otherwise - install rootsh by using application manager | 17:35 |
| freemangordon | open xterm and type "root" without quotes | 17:35 |
| freemangordon | do "apt-get install $WHATEVER_THE_PACKAGE_IS" | 17:36 |
| freemangordon | again, wihtout quotes | 17:36 |
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| kinkin | thx u freemangordon | 17:50 |
| kinkin | root | 17:50 |
| kinkin | i will be back | 17:50 |
| kinkin | see u | 17:50 |
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| CapsuL | re | 19:33 |
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| APic | wb | 19:33 |
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| CapsuL | do you know app for online chess on naemo?? | 19:34 |
| Tekk_ | CapsuL: emacs can do chess over irc | 19:34 |
| CapsuL | thx Tekk_ | 19:36 |
| CapsuL | i go looking for this | 19:36 |
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| CapsuL | test | 19:39 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | maemo has a stock chess app, what's wrong with that? | 20:34 |
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| Tekk_ | sixwheeledbeast: it doesn't do online apparently | 20:35 |
| * Tekk_ personally finds the chess app enough | 20:35 | |
| Tekk_ | btw, anyone know if there's a Go app? | 20:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ah, I didn't know that | 20:35 |
| Tekk_ | there's gnugo, but I want something graphical | 20:36 |
| Tekk_ | it's kinda annoying to have to put in coords | 20:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~go | 20:36 |
| infobot | somebody said go was an open source programming environment that makes it easy to build simple, reliable, and efficient software, or http://golang.org/ | 20:36 |
| Tekk_ | not quite what I was looking for :) | 20:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Tekk_: ah go is like twitter with a map then? goapp.tv ? | 20:38 |
| Tekk_ | sixwheeledbeast: no | 20:39 |
| Tekk_ | it's a board game | 20:39 |
| Tekk_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29 | 20:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Tekk_: ah, I have never seen that. It's looks similar to Reversi aka Othello. | 20:44 |
| Nokiabot | Stupid board games :p | 20:48 |
| Nokiabot | Intellegent board gamers :D | 20:48 |
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| Nokiabot | BCMM:hi | 21:04 |
| Tekk_ | sixwheeledbeast: it's somewhat similar in ways I guess | 21:05 |
| Tekk_ | I suppose you could think of it as chess to reversi's checkers? | 21:05 |
| Nokiabot | Tekk_:why you want that game :) | 21:05 |
| bencoh | :)) | 21:07 |
| bencoh | I cant believe there is no X11 version of a Go game | 21:07 |
| bencoh | http://cgoban1.sourceforge.net/ | 21:11 |
| bencoh | and http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GoOnLinux for the background | 21:11 |
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| Tekk_ | bencoh: yeah, I always just use cgoban | 21:19 |
| * Tekk_ hasn't heard of rubygo | 21:20 | |
| bencoh | shouldnt be difficult to build for n900 | 21:20 |
| bencoh | it has basically no deps (apart from Xlib) | 21:21 |
| Tekk_ | are we thinking of the same cgoban? | 21:21 |
| Tekk_ | the one I'm thinking of uses gnustep | 21:21 |
| Tekk_ | huh | 21:21 |
| * Tekk_ started it and didn't see the menu | 21:21 | |
| Tekk_ | I swear I used to use some gnustep/openstep go program.o | 21:21 |
| bencoh | hmmm, I dont think it does | 21:22 |
| bencoh | gnustep/wmaker on n900 would be fun btw :D | 21:22 |
| bencoh | but gnugo can be fucking cpu-greedy at times | 21:23 |
| Tekk_ | bencoh: definitely not | 21:24 |
| * Tekk_ just checked ldd | 21:24 | |
| bencoh | :) | 21:25 |
| bencoh | I see libICE, libX11, libSM here | 21:25 |
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| quentin__ | re | 22:50 |
| quentin__ | why same application didn't run on my N900 Naemo ? | 22:51 |
| quentin__ | like chess game (miniature , chessclock) | 22:51 |
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| quentin__ | sorry , bad word ,N900 doesn't want install it , it told me some library | 23:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | quentin__: I do not understand | 23:02 |
| quentin__ | libqt4-core(>= 4.6.2~git20100224-0maemo1+0m5) | 23:03 |
| quentin__ | libqtm-systeminfo | 23:03 |
| quentin__ | is write on "probleme" when it stop installation of application | 23:04 |
| quentin__ | i learn step by step the linux langage | 23:05 |
| quentin__ | but for my english ... i didn't find the good way :p | 23:05 |
| quentin__ | i am french ;) | 23:05 |
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| quentin__ | apt-get install libqt4-core | 23:10 |
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| bencoh | he should've said that in french ... I think we're still a few here to understand/speak it :) | 23:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hmm, I could even babelfish it. | 23:39 |
| bencoh | :) | 23:40 |
| bencoh | (I've no freaking idea what he was trying to say) | 23:41 |
| freemangordon | seems his device has no qt and qt-mobility installed | 23:42 |
| freemangordon | maybe old firmware | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | also AFAIK there is no GTK on Nemo by default | 23:44 |
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| bencoh | is anyone still using nemo on n900 ? | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I'm converting modRana to use the Python logging framework instead of the bunch-of-prints it uses now :) | 23:45 |
| bencoh | the full-qt version is unbearable :/ | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | that should give use improved debugging in the future, nicer log files (severity & timestamps) & log file & console output at the same time :) | 23:46 |
| M4rtinK | also makes the code much nicer :) | 23:46 |
| M4rtinK | "code reducting" like this: https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/commit/efa8122f4b828b385a7775afde2f725bca27f3f5#diff-b95d84ef1ea7dd2ba7cee8fe6182580bL66 | 23:47 |
| M4rtinK | all over the place :) | 23:47 |
| M4rtinK | not really that user visible and shiny, but should help the modRana project in the future :) | 23:48 |
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