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hurrian | <rant> Samsung WTF, your base OS install on the Note 3 uses up 1.3GB RAM idle </rant> | 02:30 |
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phlixi | on th eother hand, it has 3gb ram, right? | 02:32 |
drathir | lol android ;p | 02:35 |
hurrian | inb4 free ram is wasted ram, but holy crap samsung wtf have you done, seriously. | 02:38 |
hurrian | CM11 + full Google Apps (aka bloat) on SGS2 does 300MB idle... | 02:38 |
hurrian | I bought the Qualcomm version so it'd be easier to run SFOS on it, when I get around to that | 02:39 |
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kerio | free ram is wasted ram means that buffers and cache should use the ram | 08:18 |
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drathir | mornin... | 13:53 |
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erlehmann | i finally ditched my old htc dream and am now going n900 full time | 14:28 |
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erlehmann | such a nice device! | 14:28 |
erlehmann | so first things first. what would be the process to build a fully functional maemo image? | 14:30 |
erlehmann | like, compile it | 14:30 |
erlehmann | also what would be a good feedreader | 14:31 |
erlehmann | hello hello | 14:35 |
erlehmann | is anyone there | 14:35 |
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NIN101_ | erlehmann: you want to compile everything of maemo from scratch? | 14:38 |
drathir | ~flashing | 14:42 |
infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 14:42 |
drathir | erlehmann: ^ | 14:42 |
drathir | ~firmware | 14:43 |
infobot | i heard firmware is please see ~combined ~emmc ~flasher | 14:43 |
drathir | ~combined | 14:43 |
infobot | hmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 14:43 |
drathir | erlehmann: ^ | 14:43 |
drathir | ~emmc | 14:44 |
infobot | hmm... emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin | 14:44 |
drathir | ~flasher | 14:44 |
infobot | i guess flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 14:44 |
drathir | erlehmann: ^ | 14:45 |
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erlehmann | NIN101_ yes | 15:13 |
erlehmann | i want to create an image from scratch | 15:13 |
NIN101_ | erlehmann: well that's not possible as many crucial parts of maemo are not open sourced | 15:13 |
Pali | if you want to create FIASCO image (from kernel image, rootfs image, ...), use tool 0xFFFF | 15:14 |
erlehmann | oh | 15:14 |
Pali | ~0xFFFF | 15:14 |
infobot | [0xffff] https://gitorious.org/0xffff/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 | 15:14 |
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erlehmann | can i replace the nonfree parts? | 15:14 |
Pali | ~fremantle_closed_packages | 15:14 |
Pali | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages | 15:15 |
Pali | erlehmann: look at above table ^^^ what can be replaced | 15:15 |
erlehmann | xchat somehow does not highlight the links | 15:16 |
erlehmann | Pali is there a mostly free distribution? | 15:21 |
Pali | no idea | 15:21 |
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erlehmann | . | 15:23 |
NIN101_ | erlehmann: none that makes the phone functions useable. | 15:24 |
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erlehmann | NIN101_ so where can i start? | 15:29 |
erlehmann | also, i think i need a git client | 15:34 |
erlehmann | how do i get one | 15:34 |
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erlehmann | the usb connector seems to lodge in tightly | 15:51 |
erlehmann | i hope i dont break it | 15:52 |
erlehmann | now filing down usb cable hooks | 15:54 |
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erlehmann | i cannot call with jabber | 16:19 |
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erlehmann | can anyone help me with n900 jabber voice and video? | 16:36 |
erlehmann | ~voip | 16:37 |
infobot | i heard voip is Voice over IP | 16:37 |
erlehmann | ~jingle | 16:37 |
infobot | somebody said jingle was action hooks up $1 to a sleigh and rides $1 around the town | 16:37 |
erlehmann | ~jabber | 16:37 |
infobot | it has been said that jabber is at http://www.jabber.org, http://www.jabber.com, http://www.jabbercentral.com and http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/jabberpy or an instant messaging system, or jabberstudio.org and planet.jabber.org | 16:37 |
erlehmann | does not connect | 16:39 |
erlehmann | :( | 16:40 |
erlehmann | has anyone in here voice and video calls working? | 16:41 |
Pali | erlehmann: voice call worked fine 2 months ago | 16:46 |
Pali | and with cssu-devel patch it worked also with gmail web plugin | 16:46 |
Pali | and it worked also with kopete | 16:46 |
erlehmann | interesting is there an echo service | 16:48 |
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erlehmann | Pali can i test call you over xmpp? | 16:52 |
erlehmann | i cannot find a working echo server | 16:52 |
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erlehmann | Pali do you have a tutorial for setting up xmpp calling with n900? | 16:57 |
Ashley` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKgLAAMcM8 | 16:57 |
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dhbiker | hi there | 21:24 |
dhbiker | i haven't used this in a while... | 21:24 |
dhbiker | why bleeding edge drivers aren't working with latest kernel power ? | 21:25 |
dhbiker | or i'm just too stupid to get it back to work | 21:25 |
stryngs | hi dhbiker, yer talking hacking on an n900. -=) Happy to help | 21:26 |
stryngs | What hernel are u using? | 21:26 |
dhbiker | power 52 | 21:27 |
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stryngs | ok, and what are u trying to do? | 21:27 |
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stryngs | packet injection, etc..? | 21:28 |
dhbiker | load bleeding edge drivers | 21:28 |
stryngs | For what purpose? | 21:28 |
dhbiker | aircrack-ng and reaver | 21:28 |
stryngs | Roger, so PACKET injection =) | 21:28 |
stryngs | Ok. one moment | 21:28 |
stryngs | Im gunna hook u up dude | 21:29 |
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stryngs | You familiar with dpkg -i and dpkg -x and ar dhbiker ? | 21:31 |
dhbiker | affirmative | 21:32 |
stryngs | ok one second, having issues with my shitty godaddy server | 21:32 |
stryngs | wget ethicalreporting.org/wifi-tools-pwnphone_1.0_armel.deb | 21:33 |
stryngs | Now, yer gunna have to mod the control file | 21:33 |
stryngs | so grab it, when u got it lemme know | 21:33 |
stryngs | actually no yer not | 21:34 |
stryngs | why the hell i have it set to require aircrack-ng is beyond me, but thats fixable =) | 21:34 |
stryngs | feel free to dpkg -i it. Check out the code for yourself i u like | 21:34 |
stryngs | Either way, itll create two icons on yer desktop | 21:35 |
stryngs | red needle turns on packet injection | 21:35 |
stryngs | blue one turns it off | 21:35 |
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stryngs | it has a backup to relaunch wlancond if u cycle them TOO fast, but try to avoid doing that as it is somewhat hackich | 21:35 |
stryngs | hackish | 21:35 |
stryngs | Lemme know ho wu like =) | 21:35 |
stryngs | I would definately appreciate your feedback on it dhbiker =) | 21:37 |
dhbiker | found them in /opt/packet-injection-modules/ and they seem to work | 21:37 |
dhbiker | :> | 21:37 |
stryngs | They do work | 21:37 |
stryngs | That script just makes it easy to launch and delaunch em | 21:37 |
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Pali | ~packet-injection | 21:43 |
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Pali | ~kp | 21:43 |
infobot | well, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 | 21:43 |
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dhbiker | already up and running Pali thanks anyways :D | 21:44 |
Pali | read first post of ^^^ there is script for loading packet injection drivers | 21:44 |
Pali | they are already part of kp52 | 21:44 |
dhbiker | i have everything :D | 21:45 |
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stryngs | The script is broken Pali | 21:48 |
stryngs | just a heads up | 21:48 |
Pali | which part is broken? | 21:49 |
stryngs | wlancond part | 21:49 |
Pali | or what does not working? | 21:49 |
stryngs | is tries to start to fast | 21:49 |
Tekk_ | people still use nitdroid....? | 21:49 |
Pali | and what wlancond doing? | 21:49 |
stryngs | and has no backup for when the fail happens | 21:49 |
Tekk_ | I was pretty sure you couldn't even find a nitdroid image to flash anymore | 21:49 |
Pali | ah, right, this is not problem of my script | 21:49 |
Pali | but ptoblem in upstart | 21:49 |
stryngs | Right, but u can fix it | 21:49 |
Tekk_ | huh, it has ics.. | 21:49 |
Pali | it does not allow you stop & start process too many times | 21:50 |
Pali | bug in upstart | 21:50 |
stryngs | wget ethicalreporting.org/wifi-tools-pwnphone_1.0_armel.deb; grab it, dpkx -x it and check out injectionON.sh and injectionOFF.sh | 21:50 |
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stryngs | There are also other small errors and whatnot | 21:50 |
Pali | if you stop wlancond too many times, you need to wait 5-10 minutes | 21:50 |
Pali | and you *must* stop wlancond if you are chaning drivers | 21:50 |
stryngs | or just launch wlancond -d =) | 21:50 |
Pali | and you *must* start wlancond via upstart | 21:51 |
stryngs | I modified your script based on the errors i was seeing in the log | 21:51 |
stryngs | Your script works, dont get me wrong | 21:51 |
Pali | otherwise system will not work correctly | 21:51 |
kerio | fucking script kiddies | 21:51 |
stryngs | It just needed a couple tweaks =) | 21:51 |
Pali | now looking at ./usr/bin/injectionON.sh | 21:52 |
Pali | that script is incorrect | 21:53 |
stryngs | How so? | 21:53 |
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Tekk_ | well, given that there's an "is nitdroid still being developed?" thread on the forum that's been unanswered for nearly a year, I'm guessing it's pretty dea d:P | 21:53 |
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Pali | you should not kill wlancond | 21:53 |
Pali | and not with -9 :D | 21:54 |
kerio | jesus christ | 21:54 |
Pali | upstart will handle it as system crash | 21:54 |
stryngs | Why not? If its hanging | 21:54 |
Pali | and when you got your counter at some level you will have permanent reboot | 21:54 |
Pali | there is lifeguard daemon which storing that somewhere | 21:54 |
Pali | and after it reach something it disallow you to start phone | 21:55 |
stryngs | What? Who the hell coded that | 21:55 |
Pali | it show message MALF | 21:55 |
Pali | proper way to stop system daemon started by upstart is to use upstart, so call $ stop <daemon> | 21:55 |
stryngs | Are the people at nokia just that retarded? | 21:55 |
Pali | and to start daemon use: $ start <daemon> | 21:56 |
Tekk_ | stryngs: have you seen the dependencies in maemo packages? :) | 21:56 |
stryngs | Yes | 21:56 |
stryngs | Its why i started my own fork so to speak | 21:56 |
stryngs | But, Pali Thank you for that insight | 21:56 |
Tekk_ | so why are you asking this question? :P | 21:56 |
Pali | but if you call stop, start, stop, start, ... too many then upstart refuse to start daemon (need to wait about 5 minutes) | 21:56 |
stryngs | right, so why not invoke with wlancond -d & | 21:56 |
stryngs | works just the same, does it not? | 21:56 |
Pali | somebody should look at upstart code and remove that restriction :-) | 21:56 |
Pali | becuase system daemons are handled by upstart | 21:57 |
stryngs | Ok, but...... if it works, why is it wrong? U handled my killall -9 question perfectly, u gave reason | 21:57 |
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stryngs | And I'm going to change that, because @#*$** what the heck | 21:58 |
Pali | daemons could crash (sometimes) and upstart will respawn them if it happens | 21:58 |
stryngs | So the proper way to handle this is to truly wait 5-10 mins? | 21:58 |
Pali | and when you are starting daemon via upstart then upstart resolve some dependences and other services which should be started *after* that daemon upstart will automatically start them | 21:59 |
stryngs | So the proper way to handle this is to truly wait 5-10 mins? | 21:59 |
Pali | yes, until somebody remove that restrictioin | 22:00 |
stryngs | Ok. Very cool. Thank you for the insight | 22:00 |
stryngs | modules_unload="wl12xx wl1251_spi wl1251 mac80211 cfg80211 rfkill_backport compat" is wrong fyi | 22:00 |
stryngs | check out my changes in injectionON/OFF | 22:00 |
stryngs | to see what i mean | 22:00 |
stryngs | if u launch it via ssh, youll see the errors | 22:01 |
Pali | kerio: can you look at that upstart code? :D | 22:01 |
stryngs | They aren't lifethreatening by anymeans, but they call for removing modules that arent there | 22:01 |
stryngs | Good stuff Pali. Thank you for the insight! | 22:01 |
Pali | yes, it print warnings about modules which are not loaded -- but this is not error | 22:01 |
Pali | just to unload everything to be sure | 22:02 |
stryngs | Well, imho if a script asks to do something, it should be done, errors are human coding errors. | 22:02 |
stryngs | Either way, THANK you my friend =) You answered and taught me something today that I had evidently been MESSING up badly on | 22:02 |
Pali | correct way would be probably to drop messages about non loaded modules | 22:02 |
stryngs | Feel free to take that .DEB and put it in maemo =) | 22:03 |
stryngs | I'm too lazy to proper package stuff, so i dont bother | 22:03 |
kerio | hold on, aren't you unloading it with modprobe -r? | 22:03 |
stryngs | But, the icons are pwnieexpress icons, so they would possibly have to change | 22:03 |
kerio | *them | 22:03 |
stryngs | rmmod kerio | 22:04 |
Pali | ERROR: Module kerio does not exist in /proc/modules | 22:04 |
stryngs | for dependency reasons i would assume, Pali? | 22:04 |
kerio | it was a loaded question | 22:04 |
kerio | Pali: oic | 22:04 |
Pali | $ sudo modprobe -r kerio --> FATAL: Module kerio not found. | 22:04 |
kerio | yeah yeah | 22:04 |
Pali | this will show error message too | 22:04 |
kerio | the modules are actually /not there/ | 22:05 |
stryngs | Right, but why would you try to rmmod a module that isnt there, and wouldnt be there except for very weird circumstances? | 22:05 |
Pali | but modprobe (when used instead insmod) will ignore already loaded modules | 22:05 |
Pali | stryngs: to make sure that script will work in any state and I do not know which modules are loaded | 22:06 |
stryngs | Interesting | 22:06 |
stryngs | /dev/null 2&>1 | 22:06 |
stryngs | that would fix it =) | 22:06 |
Pali | I think that script should work at any time, so correct way is: 1) clean up everything (remove all modules which allocate wifi...) 2) init my code | 22:07 |
Pali | stryngs: that will ignore also other fatal errors | 22:07 |
Pali | like: cannot rmmod module, because somebody using it | 22:07 |
stryngs | hmm | 22:07 |
Pali | or cannot rmmod module, because something crashed | 22:07 |
Pali | or whatever... | 22:07 |
Pali | and I think this should be printed to notify user about problems | 22:08 |
stryngs | Very well. | 22:10 |
stryngs | I've been effectively shutup'd =) | 22:10 |
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Pali | some *kernel* source code for omap M-Shield and SMC: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap/+/android-omap-tuna-3.0/security/smc | 23:55 |
Pali | freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05 ^^^ | 23:55 |
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Sicelo | Pali: applies directly to our chip? | 23:58 |
Pali | no idea, I just found kernel code which calling smc instruction with other file names mshield | 23:59 |
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