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| wizbit | how can i sync my n900 mmc1 and a directory on my linux box? | 00:05 |
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| wizbit | i dont want anything to be deleted on either but would like them to sync | 00:05 |
| wizbit | so if i backup my n900 that will sync onto my linux directory and if i add music to the linux directory it gets synced to mmc1 on my N900 | 00:06 |
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| wizbit | https://owncloud.org/ | 00:15 |
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| dima5` | Hi all. I'd like to get a chroot to build maemo applications. Are the instructions on maemo.org still the preferred method? (download and run some Nokia install script to get their sdk + scratchbox) | 02:40 |
| dima5` | On some level all I want is an apt repo that has their library dependencies, not a full "sdk", whatever that is | 02:40 |
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| bencoh | the manual method from the wiki is still up-to-date/accurate (for wheezy) | 02:50 |
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| bencoh | dima5`: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Manual_Installation | 02:52 |
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| dima5` | ok, thanks much | 02:54 |
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| dima5` | Another (completely different) question. I just discovered that the public transit agency in my city has a web api to get bus positions and arrival predictions. I'd like to modify some already-existing maemo application to use this information. I see a number of apps such as this on the web. Any particular one people find good (and not dead upstream)? Another option is to add something to mappero, but that's definitely dead upstream | 03:07 |
| kerio | idk, maybe modrana? | 03:09 |
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| dima5` | is it good? Is that what you use? | 03:14 |
| dima5` | (installing the dev stuff still, and trying out modrana now) | 03:15 |
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| dima5` | holy moly. modrana is extremely slow on the n900. I'm guessing it's mostly written in python, and this is why. kerio: do you use this on the n900, or on some newer device? | 03:25 |
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| dima5` | OK, another question. Years ago I submitted a patch to a mappero bug at garage.maemo.org. Looking at the tracker, I can't figure out how to download the file. Applies to other people's patches too. Can somebody point me to the download link here: https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=6386&group_id=29&atid=185 | 06:14 |
| dima5` | Otherwise, is that tracker simply broken? | 06:15 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | yes it's python | 10:08 |
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| bencoh | dima5`: marble desktop still receives KDE support ... marble n900 hasnt been updated for a while but that could be a good start I guess :) | 11:13 |
| dima5` | looking. Thanks | 11:13 |
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| dima5` | whoa. That's a fun application | 11:15 |
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| huario | Can anyone help me with Skype calls on the n900? I can sign in on my Skype account, but if I try to search for contacts, I get "search operation failed" | 14:59 |
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| huario | (I'm following the instructions at https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10862/how-do-i-use-skype-on-my-nokia-n900#4) | 14:59 |
| huario | Alternatively, if I click "New contact" and add their Skype ID, I can only IM them, but not call. | 15:00 |
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| Luke-Jr | huario: at this point, I would assume it doesn't work. | 16:38 |
| Luke-Jr | huario: Skype has changed their codecs at least once making their PC software incompatible with N900 | 16:39 |
| Luke-Jr | I wouldn't be shocked to learn they made it so you can no longer connect at all | 16:39 |
| huario | nice | 16:39 |
| hurrian | fwiw, Skype just sent out an email noting that older versions of Skype will cease to work | 16:43 |
| hurrian | even Skype IP phones will stop working in 2015 iirc | 16:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | well, iirc skype is M$ property now, | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | or is it still with ebay? | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, skype is evil | 18:13 |
| astr | mumble.nexunity.org | 18:26 |
| Sicelo | how does one completely delete their skype account? | 18:28 |
| kerio | astr: it's not like murmurd is hard to install | 18:28 |
| kerio | besides, mumble is optimized for low latency, not low power consumption | 18:29 |
| astr | kerio, what do you mean hard to install? | 18:29 |
| astr | what about power consumption? | 18:29 |
| kerio | regarding mumble on n900 | 18:29 |
| astr | oh | 18:29 |
| Sicelo | interesting -- not 'really' possible to delete a skype account. wow | 18:30 |
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| drathir | hi... | 19:59 |
| drathir | anyone have idea how to debug n900 not readind sim card issue? | 19:59 |
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| drathir | after phone start asking for pin when chosed say wrong oone 3attemps left, after write pin again accepted but say something only emergency calls possible and close to time at desktop is sim card one side crossed red line... | 20:02 |
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| freemangordon | drathir: check for suspicious messages in the syslog | 20:34 |
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| Guest98879 | can somebody tell me about the apt-get in n900? why it can get packages on n900 from nokia0 but not on other devices ? | 20:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: ping | 21:13 |
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| wizbit | 2x things are missing my my N900, the ability to use some kind of cloud sync service like dropbox / owncloud and the ability to access my linux service media files remotely, i wonder if there are solutions? | 21:13 |
| wizbit | anybody use sshfs to access files on a n900? | 21:14 |
| bencoh | I stopped using sshfs a loong time ago (be it on a regular computer or a phone :) | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all the time | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err sftp | 21:16 |
| wizbit | sftp is for downloading rather than accessing files? | 21:16 |
| wizbit | i like the ability to browse my media files on my linux service using my phone | 21:16 |
| wizbit | *would | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xy? | 21:17 |
| wizbit | imagine how cool it would be if i could access my music collection on my linux box using my phone remotely | 21:17 |
| wizbit | i think sshfs is the only solution | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, xy | 21:18 |
| wizbit | maybe the n900 file browser would then play them using open media player | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~xy | 21:18 |
| infobot | well, xy is The XY problem: You want to do X, but don't know how. You think you can solve it using Y, but don't know how to do that, either. You ask about Y, which is a strange thing to want to do. Just ask about X. | 21:18 |
| javispedro | ping DocScrutinizer05 | 21:18 |
| javispedro | *pong | 21:18 |
| wizbit | wow i found a owncloud client for maemo and it looks pretty uptodate :D | 21:21 |
| wizbit | but its cli only, that might be ideal for syncing mmc1 to my linux box | 21:21 |
| wizbit | then next mission is to get sshfs working | 21:22 |
| wizbit | then i could drop some music into a directory on linux box then it will automatically sync to my phone | 21:23 |
| Guest98879 | can somebody tell me how to use apt-mirror? it gives access denied for nokia repos | 21:24 |
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| wizbit | Guest98879: use the built in appliction installer | 21:31 |
| Guest98879 | ?? | 21:32 |
| Guest98879 | i want to get nokia repos on my computer to have them offline. | 21:32 |
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| wizbit | eeek didnt know you can do that | 21:32 |
| Guest98879 | really? | 21:34 |
| Guest98879 | its in maemo wiki | 21:34 |
| Guest98879 | i can get other repos but nokia repos gives me error | 21:35 |
| kerio | there's some authentication | 21:35 |
| kerio | but i have no idea what that entails | 21:35 |
| Guest98879 | i live in iran and nokia has blocked my reqular access but on n900 with proxy i can download them but with wget i cant | 21:35 |
| Guest98879 | doesn't nokia use apt-get? | 21:36 |
| kerio | yeah yeah | 21:36 |
| kerio | it's dpkg's downloading | 21:36 |
| kerio | but there's some things they check i guess | 21:36 |
| Guest98879 | no | 21:36 |
| Guest98879 | apt-get | 21:36 |
| Guest98879 | dpkg installs | 21:36 |
| kerio | yes, yes | 21:36 |
| Guest98879 | apt-get download | 21:36 |
| Guest98879 | i dont know of a way to get apt-get useragent on n900 | 21:37 |
| Guest98879 | that would have been progress | 21:37 |
| kerio | /etc/apt/auth apparently | 21:37 |
| kerio | not sure if that's an http password or what | 21:37 |
| kerio | also i'm not sure if technically this would be copyright infringement or EULA violation | 21:38 |
| kerio | but i don't think anyone will actually complain if you're only going to use the repository for your n900 anyway | 21:38 |
| Guest98879 | nokia "technically" abondaned me so..... | 21:38 |
| kerio | that, too | 21:38 |
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| wizbit | nearly got sshfs working if i create a directory in /media the file browser picks it up :D just created ssh keys | 22:11 |
| kerio | omg | 22:11 |
| * wizbit feels like a wild cat | 22:12 | |
| kerio | u so gud | 22:12 |
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| wizbit | dam the file browser shows no files | 22:17 |
| wizbit | but if i use cli the mount exists | 22:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | forget the stock filemanager | 22:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it only shows uSD and eMMC FAT32 (aka MNyDocs) volumes | 22:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but sshfs sucks, it stalls on every roaming or reconnect of your N900 | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly what you usualy want to use | 22:23 |
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| drathir | freemangordon: oh thanks even dont thinked about that sim card debug info could be stored somewhere... | 22:25 |
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| wizbit | got sshfs working but its _slow_ | 22:36 |
| bencoh | you bet it is | 22:39 |
| wizbit | im going to install mplayer | 22:40 |
| wizbit | and see if that is faster | 22:41 |
| bencoh | faster than ? | 22:41 |
| wizbit | i wonder if mocp exists | 22:41 |
| bencoh | omp/nokia player ? | 22:41 |
| wizbit | that the File manager | 22:41 |
| bencoh | o | 22:41 |
| bencoh | oh*. | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | wizbit: said no dropbox, or you meant auto-sync? | 22:41 |
| wizbit | than the File manager | 22:41 |
| wizbit | Sicelo: im using sshfs at the moment | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | i can see that, hehe. i'm asking about dropbox | 22:42 |
| wizbit | drop N900 doesnt working anymore | 22:43 |
| wizbit | its discontinued | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | it still works :) | 22:44 |
| wizbit | https://github.com/jonnenauha/DropN900 | 22:45 |
| wizbit | read the update bit | 22:46 |
| wizbit | it shoudnt work | 22:46 |
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| Sicelo | check TMO sir | 22:46 |
| wizbit | TMO? | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | ~tmo | 22:46 |
| infobot | somebody said tmo was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | the second one | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | i'm right now browsing my dropbox files on my N900 | 22:47 |
| wizbit | what application are you using | 22:47 |
| Sicelo | DropN900 | 22:49 |
| Sicelo | someone figured how to 'fix' it | 22:49 |
| wizbit | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1340431&postcount=443 | 22:51 |
| wizbit | Sicelo: does it run fast? | 22:51 |
| Sicelo | what do you mean by 'fast'? | 22:52 |
| wizbit | if you have a mp3 on your dropbox can the media player play it? | 22:52 |
| Sicelo | never tried that | 22:54 |
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| Sicelo | when talking about Media Player, do not forget Tracker ... In short, I think trying to use DropN900 in that way would most likely end in disappointment | 22:55 |
| wizbit | ok | 22:55 |
| wizbit | Sicelo: can you view photos or text documents using dropbox? | 22:56 |
| Sicelo | tracker again :D | 22:56 |
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| wizbit | so tracker reads your dropbox partition? | 22:56 |
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| Sicelo | there is no such partition wizbit | 22:56 |
| wizbit | so your dropbox just reads? | 22:57 |
| Sicelo | even the 'desktop' ones do a complete download afaict | 22:57 |
| wizbit | yep | 22:57 |
| Sicelo | so i don't quite get what you're asking ... once the file is in N900, tracker will obviously be able to view/play it. there is no way to 'stream' (at least as far as i can see) | 22:58 |
| wizbit | i see | 22:59 |
| wizbit | all i want to do is sync mmc1 to a directory on my linux box so i can add music to it and let it sync to my phone | 23:00 |
| wizbit | i might use owncloud instead | 23:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | rsync? | 23:00 |
| Sicelo | yes, rsync for that :) | 23:00 |
| wizbit | rsync is not designed for that | 23:00 |
| kerio | yes it is | 23:00 |
| wizbit | rsync is 1 way | 23:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | nope | 23:00 |
| kerio | it's designed precisely to sync directories | 23:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: hence the word sync | 23:01 |
| wizbit | image mmc1 contains a new backup on my phone and mmc1 directory contains a new music file | 23:01 |
| wizbit | i want them both to be synced | 23:01 |
| wizbit | both ways | 23:01 |
| wizbit | even a rsync dev said its not designed for that | 23:01 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I don't see why not. | 23:03 |
| Sicelo | even if it was one way .. can't you do 2-pass then? box > N900, then N900 > box? | 23:03 |
| javispedro | you can, albeit it's a bit painful | 23:03 |
| wizbit | i think owncloud is the solution, if i run that on my server it gives me other uses | 23:03 |
| wizbit | like playing music at friends house | 23:04 |
| wizbit | http://www.linux.org/attachments/cloud-files-png.57/ | 23:04 |
| wizbit | looks good | 23:04 |
| wizbit | dropbox is good but your limited with space | 23:04 |
| wizbit | wouldnt you rather run your 'own cloud' :P | 23:05 |
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| javispedro | why run a cloud at all when you can sync your devices in a decentralized way via local Wi-Fi | 23:06 |
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| wizbit | javispedro: how? | 23:07 |
| wizbit | unison? | 23:07 |
| javispedro | for example, run automagically when the two devices are in the same local network | 23:08 |
| wizbit | that would be amazing | 23:08 |
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| wizbit | then my backups would be saved to my linux box and new music added to my phone automatically once my phone is in my wireless network | 23:09 |
| wizbit | i wonder if there is any software what can do that | 23:09 |
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| javispedro | I don't think so, I was interested on that at some point and made some prototype | 23:10 |
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| javispedro | the sync part was slow and I never trusted it with my real data though (always did one-way sync only) | 23:10 |
| javispedro | probably though | 23:10 |
| javispedro | one could script something with unison | 23:11 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#backup | 23:12 |
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| wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: nice linux a cron job for rsync would be good for backing up the phone | 23:26 |
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| wizbit | then i could create a another rsync script what copies music the other way | 23:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep | 23:27 |
| wizbit | i could activate that one manually | 23:27 |
| wizbit | thats a lot easier than setting up clouds | 23:27 |
| wizbit | thanks :D | 23:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | np | 23:28 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | grr ... v6 dns issues | 23:33 |
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| ecc3g | I hope someday my isp will give me reverse lookup for my ipv6 address... | 23:38 |
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| bencoh | rsync is fucking slow on n900, even on top of usbnet | 23:57 |
| bencoh | (well rsync over ssh at least) | 23:59 |
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