IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2014-08-08

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DocScrutinizer51quiet earth?00:40
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infobotDocScrutinizer51: :)00:45
DocScrutinizer51~wiki quiet earth00:48
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{About|the novel|the film|The Quiet Earth (film)}} {{Infobox book | | name = The Quiet Earth | title_orig = | translator = | image = | caption = | author = Craig Harrison | illustrator = | cover_artist = | country = New Zealand | language = English | series = | genre = | publisher = | release_date = 1981 | english_release_date = | media_type = | pages = | isbn = 0-340-26507-8 | ...00:48
* nox- is still here00:51
nox-and my n900 still works as well00:51
DocScrutinizer51and I got another reconnect thanks to 8/8bars signal 3G but spanish bullshit quality, and while typing this yet another00:58
DocScrutinizer51movistar my ass00:59
DocScrutinizer51~wiki quiet earth00:59
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{About|the novel|the film|The Quiet Earth (film)}} {{Infobox book | | name = The Quiet Earth | title_orig = | translator = | image = | caption = | author = Craig Harrison | illustrator = | cover_artist = | country = New Zealand | language = English | series = | genre = | publisher = | release_date = 1981 | english_release_date = | media_type = | pages = | isbn = 0-340-26507-8 | ...00:59
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer51 in the darkest corner of the room. :(01:00
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DocScrutinizer51nox-: good to hear of tou and ur n90001:03
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nox-DocScrutinizer51, was wondering if you meant this # by that but maybe you were really just trying to look up the movie/book... :)01:08
nox-ok, enjoy :)01:09
DocScrutinizer51well, sitting amidst RL here, quite earth isn't to the point anyway01:10
nox-ok :)01:10
DocScrutinizer51at least 15 real humans around me01:10
nox-:)  have fun!01:11
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DocScrutinizer51spotting lighthouses. its actually fun01:14
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dos1Joerg discovers joys of the mythical land called "real world" :)01:22
dos1well, you can stop daydreaming now - we all know that there's nothing outside of the internet ;)01:23
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer51: any advice for reverse engineering ARM binaries? :/01:24
Luke-JrI have pretty much everything working on my Nest thermostat except battery charging :/01:24
Luke-Jrwhich apparently I need to control in software despite it being on power 24/701:24
javispedroLuke-Jr: hey, if it's elf, I am yet to find anything free better than objdump..01:31
Luke-Jrjavispedro: objdump doesn't even associate the dynamic symbol table to jumps :/01:31
bef0rdhopper kinda supports ARM elf, not free though01:32
javispedro(from memory)01:32
Luke-Jrbef0rd: I tried that, it was unusable UIwise.01:32
javispedrotbh I need nothing from such a tool other than properly parsing of sections, relocation table (imports mostly)01:33
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javispedroso if you're lucky enough to have a format that libbfd (what objdump uses) can parse then objdump -dR is quite great01:33
javispedroand from all the commercial tools ida is the only one supporting more formats than libbfd (by a few orders of magnitude...)01:35
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Luke-Jrjavispedro: -R seemed to do nothing more :/01:36
Luke-Jr22 line perl script seems to help though XD01:36
javispedrothe last time I noticed this it was with llvm binaries01:38
javispedrowhich seemingly use a new kind of ipc-relative jumps that confuses objdump01:38
javispedro*pc-relative :P01:38
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* drathir get "new" n900 w/o working screen...01:40
drathirnew by me owner before someone owners have too...01:41
DocScrutinizer51javispedro: heya hola! dondes tu?01:45
javispedroDocScrutinizer51: barcelona as usual =)01:46
javispedroDocScrutinizer51: how's bussiness?01:46
DocScrutinizer51oooh that's just a hated stop over at my journey back home01:46
javispedroCan't believe people aren't scared of the heat around here and continue going south =)01:47
DocScrutinizer51business is recovwering from business for now, spotting lighthouses at street of gibraltar01:48
DocScrutinizer51i wish I would stop for long enough in barce to at least have a beer with you01:53
Luke-Jrjavispedro: I don't suppose you feel like a reverse engineering challenge by any chance? :P01:58
javispedroDocScrutinizer51: just a flight stopover?01:58
javispedroLuke-Jr: I'm considering buying a gear2 tomorrow which I plan to root on day1 so I'm resting today in preparation =)01:59
javispedroDocScrutinizer51: (that is a mistake...) j/k, enjoy gibraltar :)02:00
DocScrutinizer51barbate, madhouse02:00
javispedronever been to the area, but I totally expect it to be an apocalyptic desert02:01
DocScrutinizer51one of the worst things: each night (right now) some giant farts at the whole town, takes your breath02:04
DocScrutinizer51(I suspect some blackwater facility with a timer to dump stuff)02:05
DocScrutinizer51been in los canos de meca till 2 days ago and thought all the hippies with shit under their scalp must have met there. here however it's 20 times worse and no hippies but *normalos* :-o02:08
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DocScrutinizer51 a cat02:17
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javispedrowell no fumes and there's even some vegetation. better than I thought! =)02:19
DocScrutinizer51 to : los canos at night02:22
DocScrutinizer51 and on: barbate at daytime,  night doesn't differ though02:24
DocScrutinizer51 is nice - boat in front, marocco in backhround02:26
DocScrutinizer51I lovw that shot since the main motive is almost invisible02:27
drathirDocScrutinizer51: holiday?02:35
drathirso great...02:36
DocScrutinizer51trying to...02:36
drathiryea We see^^ on the irc ;p02:36
drathirjoke ofc...02:37
DocScrutinizer51flood comes  (nightmode still shot)02:38
nox-will the neo900 have a bettter camera btw?02:41
DocScrutinizer51well, some say the N97 cam is better. I say it's the 100% same cam module just with a flat cable attached02:43
nox-wll im sure i have seen better phone camera shots than these :)02:43
nox-(not by n900)02:43
DocScrutinizer51Im a poor photographer02:44
DocScrutinizer51and my cam has issues02:45
dos1n900 can do pretty good photos in daylight02:45
nox-yeah night is clearly harder...02:45
DocScrutinizer51p4ticularly when nightmode craps its pants02:46
DocScrutinizer51 is great however, just a tad shaky02:47
nox-yeah its better but...02:48
DocScrutinizer51I wish I had taken my fuji and my 250mW green laser with me02:48
nox-also video shooting is still low fps on neo900?02:48
nox-as low as on n900 i mean :)02:49
nox-some phone cameras can shoot 1080p...02:49
DocScrutinizer51it's the same cam module and a dsp that's roughly ywice as fast02:50
nox-so some improvements possible i guess at least...02:50
dos1n900 can do 720p02:50
dos1with slight dsp overclocking02:50
DocScrutinizer51on Neo900 no OC needed02:51
bencohthat's one noisy picture02:51
bencohoh, the second one is better (well, daylight)02:52
DocScrutinizer51I just wish the whole crap will run more stable02:52
bencohhm ?02:52
bencohmore stable ?02:52
DocScrutinizer51toldya I got issues lately with dsp shirring its pants particularly in night mode02:53
bencohoh, that02:53
bencohdid you try bless900 btw ?02:54
DocScrutinizer51ugh yes, ages ago02:54
DocScrutinizer51but eventually the driver improvements got adoptes by fcam aiui02:55
bencohoh ?02:56
bencohI guess I should try fcam some day02:56
bencohwell it's not like I take pictures anyway02:56
nox-yeah its just when you have only the phone not a real camera :)02:57
dos1I took this photo with blessn900 shallow mode a few years ago:
bencohoh, nice03:08
nox-yeah :)03:08
dos1however, it was pretty hard to get decent results with that mode - any slightest shake during the shot could ruin the effect03:10
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DocScrutinizer51which is what happened to "flood comes"03:13
DocScrutinizer51alas no chance to redo that show ;)03:13
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* drathir need check neo900 infos...03:54
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javispedroDocScrutinizer51: nox-: besides I think those .jpegs are recompressed04:10
javispedrosame, gnite04:11
javispedrowell, as soon as I manage to upload this garbage to the batch queue...04:11
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NIN101Can somebody with a working scratchbox installation and kernel 3.15.X tell whether /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled still exists? Mine somehow disappeared.13:07
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hurrianDebian Red, lol, this is sure to bait some of the Maemo fans out there.15:32
bencohwait, what ? :)15:33
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DocScrutinizer05well...... some for sure. But then, those already switched to N9/HARM or even to android or jolla16:06
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DocScrutinizer05the remaining *maemo* fans love maemo for its maturity, for its relative openness, for the existing apps and infra, and particularly for the hw platform it runs on16:08
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bencoh(and for their passionate relationship with their camera)16:10
bencoh(did you say "maturity" ?)16:10
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kerioaww shieet16:22
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drathirkerio: body or phone?16:44
kerio(i was talking about doc, btw)16:45
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