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| neosisani | can i use somehow n900 audio to listen to DC (or really slowly changing) signals? | 01:29 | 
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| hurrian_ | you'd want voltage protection though | 01:32 | 
| neosisani | i know computer mic has 5V which i have to remove with electrolyte | 01:32 | 
| neosisani | but if i do that i don't know how to send back slow signals to n900 | 01:32 | 
| neosisani | or if n900 will consier that to be "button clicked" instead of passing it to audio | 01:34 | 
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| DocScrutinizer51 | for the chanlog: neosistani, N900 can neither record/digitize nor playback signals of lower than - say - 40Hz | 03:51 | 
| DocScrutinizer51 | unless you use USB hostmode and your own A/D and D/A peripheral | 03:52 | 
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| wnd | someone's selling an n900 here in finland for 20 euro, I wonder if I should get it just in case | 11:04 | 
| wnd | and an n950 for 120 euro | 11:05 | 
| joga | you should, both | 11:05 | 
| bencoh | definitely :] | 11:08 | 
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| Luke-Jr | N950? wasn't that the one never sold? | 11:14 | 
| wnd | yup | 11:14 | 
| Luke-Jr | so if they don't own it, how can they sell it? | 11:15 | 
| wnd | I suppose Nokia isn't calling the devices back | 11:15 | 
| Luke-Jr | .. yet? | 11:15 | 
| Luke-Jr | anyone want to check over my thermostat logic? http://codepad.org/ZF6NVnbB | 11:16 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | People have been selling N950's for a while. | 15:33 | 
| kerio | do they actually own n950s? | 15:37 | 
| kerio | or were they just leased by nokia? | 15:38 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | I believe they are loaners. | 19:31 | 
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| ShadowJK | Luke-Jr; can you describe your hwardware, and principle of operation a bit? | 22:35 | 
| ShadowJK | Luke-Jr; meh, compressors are annoying | 22:37 | 
| Luke-Jr | ShadowJK: hardware is an off-the-shelf Nest thermostat | 22:37 | 
| ShadowJK | can't pwm :( | 22:37 | 
| Luke-Jr | behind this code, I have another daemon that handle ZMQ and talks to the backplate itself | 22:38 | 
| Luke-Jr | it also enforces a shutoff delay for every FET, just to be safe | 22:38 | 
| ShadowJK | is there a reason you're doing this in code on a computer-like thing? | 22:39 | 
| Luke-Jr | as opposed to? O.o | 22:39 | 
| ShadowJK | .. a thermostat? | 22:40 | 
| Luke-Jr | same thing | 22:40 | 
| Luke-Jr | this will all be cross-compiled and run on the thermostat | 22:40 | 
| ShadowJK | hah | 22:40 | 
| Luke-Jr | being able to run parts on my PC does make debugging simpler since it hates GDB tho | 22:41 | 
| ShadowJK | not using ospid? | 22:41 | 
| Luke-Jr | didn't know it existed :o | 22:41 | 
| ShadowJK | open source hw and sw thermostat/process controller | 22:41 | 
| Luke-Jr | > Instead of just “On” or “Off”, a PID controller outputs a value somewhere between 0 and 100%. | 22:42 | 
| Luke-Jr | all I got is on/off :P | 22:42 | 
| ShadowJK | Yeah but they all have on/off with hysteresis too | 22:43 | 
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| Luke-Jr | ? | 22:44 | 
| Luke-Jr | hysteresis is something I have to implement | 22:44 | 
| Luke-Jr | literally all I have is on/off switches for compressor, fan, etc | 22:44 | 
| ShadowJK | I mean process controllers typically have on/off mode with hysteresis too | 22:45 | 
| ShadowJK | Though for my fridge I'd actually want negative hysteresis.. | 22:45 | 
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