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| kerio | which fixes are those anyway | 00:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, ask freemangordon ;-) | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems it had some suboptimal design decisions | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe like rendering the whole list of packages to display anew after each packet that got added | 00:31 |
| kerio | wow | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pali always claimed that parsing the strings in the packages would take ages, I never got it how parsing strings could be that slow | 00:32 |
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| kerio | it's literally something that dpkg does in a fraction of the time | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are lots and lots of useless redundancy you accidentally can implement into your code. E.G compiling a regex anew for each single string you want to search for the always same regex-pattern | 00:34 |
| kerio | using the wrong regexps too | 00:34 |
| kerio | or rather the wrong engine | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, that too, though that doesn't count as redundancy | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grep is fast since it compiles the regex only once and then applies arbitrary amounts of text to search to the compiled regex engine | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any function call that accepts a plaintext regex parameter will have to compile that regex anew for each time the function gets called | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the workload is like 99% for compiling regex, 1% for applying the compiled regex search engine (search patten) to the string you want to search for the pattern, for any reasonable size of single strings | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why you got int regcomp() and int regexec() | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | man regexec | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NB I dunno what optimizations FMG applied for speedyham | 00:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway speedyham is UEBERCOOL | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | HAM is package manager the right way, but sucks. SpeedyHAM is package manager the right way the right way the right way | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus SpeedyHAM shoots down fapman high noon | 00:51 |
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| jaska | hamster | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | If I had *any* clue about .deb and how that stuff works, I had nuked the damn fremantle-MP long ago and replaced it by something that simply takes care all the needed apps get installed when you activate that new thing | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this way we wouldn't be stuck with that dang metapackage and all the headache it produces | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I *really* don't get it why CSSU didn't finally switch to such MP-ess scheme, at least after it became evident that there won't be new MP from Nokia in base repos | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MP-less, even | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the whole purpose of MP been: it allows Nokia to ship PRx.y as defined in the MP and it will replace the "complete" system when updated. CSSU exactly does _not_ want to do this | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so why can't we get rid of mp-fremantle-community-pr ? | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and rather simply ship upgrades of app packages like HAM whever due - incl proper dependencies | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whenever* | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rolling release | 01:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: get speedyham! you'll love it :-) | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | cd ~/MyDocs && wget http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb && dpkg -i *.deb && rm *.deb | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sth like that | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ignore all errors/warnings | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc that's what I did | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except for the ignoring part, which I rather did like "blame, investigate, test, realize it doesn't matter" | 01:22 |
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| vakkov | is QtMobility connectivity API available for n900 | 02:11 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 just did a USBfix. Used tools: ERSA ANALOG60 @ 375°C, tiniest swiss army knife to scratch off green varnish, FL88 FLUX pen [lots of that!], Stannol F-SW26 S-SN60PB38CU2 0.5mm solder. Was a *pleasure* to do | 02:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, smallest chisel soldertip I could find | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good that felt good to actually solder something again | 02:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should've soldered right side (front view) close to the flex cable even more to the shielding can there ;-) | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway if *that* jack comes off the PCB, then I dunno ... :-D | 02:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | annoying: I need a magnifier glass to do such jobs now | 02:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I need better magnifier goggles that allow a "telescope" macro view of the object, means I want to have more than a 6cm distance between the soldering iron and the tip of my nose | 02:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ,ore like <4cm with that clockmaker lens | 02:47 |
| trumee | ~ping | 02:47 |
| infobot | ~pong | 02:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | an want at least 15cm | 02:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the Ersa ANALOG 60 is absolutely up to the job, for soldering the jack steel sleeve down to the ground pads of PCB | 02:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually it been so terribly simple, I couldn't figure how to do it wrong, when you use the proper tools and materials as described above, are careful with removing *all* the green varnish until shining copper is all you see on the pads, all the way til the steel sleeve which you also scratch clean. Then watch a movie about soldering and go ahead. It will be your first solder joint you ever did and it will be fine | 02:53 |
| trumee | ~ping | 02:54 |
| infobot | ~pong | 02:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ding | 02:54 |
| infobot | dong | 02:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, maybe to make that clear: the USBfix been preventive aka pre-break | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I had no need to mess with the 5 tiny contact pins at rear of jack, with solderpaste and hot air and such | 02:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | soldering station: http://www.reichelt.de/ERSA-Loetstationen/ANALOG-60/3//index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=553&ARTICLE=4338&SHOW=1&OFFSET=16& | 03:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | flux: http://uk.farnell.com/edsyn/fl88/flux-dispenser-pen-15ml/dp/876732 | 03:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mWHRakh5Hw :-D | 06:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (not me!) | 06:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just re >>I need better magnifier goggles that allow a "telescope" macro view of the object<< | 06:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or already ERSASCOPE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlTV3T-JNAk | 06:44 |
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| vakkov | DocScrutinizer05, I did the usb "prevent fix" wit a hot air rework stantion and a zd-99 solder stantion | 10:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i almost had used slderpaste and hot air, but then I was to lazy to open up the solder paste syringe, so I thought I'd try with classical soldering iron first | 10:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which was actually incredibly easy | 10:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to the great FL-88 fulx I guess | 10:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Flux even | 10:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's really all just about proper tools and material | 10:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wow, the bots are online again | 10:39 |
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| Maxdamantus | ffs, does the text database crash with long messages, or what? | 11:09 |
| Maxdamantus | Wasn't able to click a message to get to the dialogue that lets me copy it, reopened the SMS window for that contact and it was gone. | 11:10 |
| Maxdamantus | and it's not in the sqlite database. | 11:10 |
| Maxdamantus | Got the person to resend it, but still can't copy it. | 11:10 |
| * Maxdamantus just typed it manually. | 11:11 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe your eventsdb got corrupted? | 11:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe, dunno. | 11:14 |
| Maxdamantus | I haven't actually tried it with other contacts or with the same contact with smaller messages. | 11:14 |
| Maxdamantus | but once she sent the long message again, I was again unable to select earlier messages (which worker just after reopening the dialogue) | 11:15 |
| Maxdamantus | worked* | 11:15 |
| Maxdamantus | Though my message asking her to resend doesn't seem to be in the db .. dunno if it normally updates periodically or something. | 11:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, instantly | 11:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ll ~user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db* | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 user users 910336 2014-07-01 17:20 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 user users 0 2011-03-06 20:12 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db-journal | 11:18 |
| Apic | Re. | 11:18 |
| Apic | DocScrutinizer05: You rock. Just wanted to say that. | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 11:18 |
| Maxdamantus | -rw------- 1 user users 160.0K Jul 6 23:59 el-v1.db | 11:18 |
| Maxdamantus | Curious last modification time. | 11:18 |
| Maxdamantus | Mon Jul 7 20:18:54 NZST 2014 | 11:18 |
| Apic | =^.^= | 11:18 |
| Apic | ♥ | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rename dat shite, see if it recovers. will also clean out all your events (call log, text log...) | 11:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does the text message contain any special chars or sth. Also, was that a SMS or what? | 11:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's also some buffer used for communication with the modem aiui | 11:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least SMS pending to get sent are piling up there. See cherry | 11:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cherry | 11:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 11:22 |
| kerio | WE LOVE YOU DOC | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status | 11:23 |
| infobot | Since Mon Jul 7 07:40:19 2014, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 42m 48s this session, and currently reference 119293 factoids. I'm using about 79464 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.9/0.28 child 0/0 | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o-O what the heck | 11:23 |
| kerio | ~factinfo cherry | 11:23 |
| infobot | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) | 11:23 |
| infobot | kerio: there's no such factoid as cherry | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why does everybody love me. That's scary | 11:23 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. After dumping the db as it was then recreating it using the dump, I can see that it saved her message two before she sent the long one. | 11:23 |
| kerio | because you're cute and cuddly | 11:24 |
| kerio | obviously | 11:24 |
| Maxdamantus | even though that was this hour, not yesterday. | 11:24 |
| Maxdamantus | This is stupidly confusing. | 11:24 |
| Maxdamantus | Does sqlite3 mess with the modification times? | 11:24 |
| Maxdamantus | or does it store messages somewhere else? | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys cherry | 11:25 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'cherry' by key (4): weathercode cherry point ;; cmd: cherry (.*?) ;; cherry pie ;; cherry vanilla creme. | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grrr | 11:25 |
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| kerio | maybe someone deleted it | 11:25 |
| kerio | "what the fuck? this isn't about fruit" | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hardly | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 11:25 |
| infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 11:25 |
| Maxdamantus | Meh, it's losing stuff again. | 11:26 |
| Maxdamantus | How does it even happen? | 11:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 11:26 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 11:26 |
| Maxdamantus | Why can't people use fucking text files? | 11:26 |
| Maxdamantus | At least then you can comprehend problems. | 11:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ask ~poettering ;-) | 11:27 |
| Maxdamantus | and it will probably work even if files get corrupted somehow. | 11:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | systemd uses binary logging now | 11:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly mysql, as I know that guy | 11:27 |
| * Maxdamantus intends to avoid systemd. | 11:28 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: anyway check ~cherry, it has pointers to some /var/dunno/what location where raw plain text files of SMS are supposed to hide | 11:28 |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, it didn't lose messages .. just saw an alert from a week ago for some reason. | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription#Recovering | 11:30 |
| Maxdamantus | O_o | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check /var/spool/sms/ | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Cherry will tell the CSD daemon, through CSD's libcsd-sms.so module, to send the SMS directly, bypassing Telepathy and RTCOMM so the SMS is not visible in your Messaging history.<< | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | suggests it's either telepathy or rtcomm which is supposed to write the SMS to /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 11:33 |
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| Maxdamantus | Mm, that seems to only have messages that haven't been handled yet. | 11:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cherry | 11:55 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 11:55 |
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