IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2014-07-05

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DocScrutinizer05and boots...02:43
DocScrutinizer05are made for walking02:43
sixwheeledbeast ;)02:44
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AndChat119664is yamas working ??11:49
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vakkovQt and QML guys, please help me! I need to split the screen in two halves. Imagine that each half is a big button (basically I need two big buttons that split the screen vertically). How can I accomplish this task?14:04
vakkovQSplitter i guess14:06
sixwheeledbeastvakkov: easy, put two buttons in your dialog with the designer and use group option14:06
sixwheeledbeastdo you want it to take up the whole window?14:08
sixwheeledbeastOk so many ways to do it but, two button on a window select layout horizonally on the window and then set the buttons to MinimumExpanding14:10
sixwheeledbeastvakkov: ^^14:10
vakkovthanks :)14:10
sixwheeledbeastvakkov: np14:10
sixwheeledbeastYou could also use a horz groupbox if you need to add more items to that window.14:15
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* sixwheeledbeast wishes he had more time to learn C properly, he may be able to make some more useful Qt apps then.14:25
vakkovok, so the .ui file is imported to the .pro . Now I need to make that design show on the screen14:28
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sixwheeledbeast\o/ vote token21:00
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: hm?21:43
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sixwheeledbeastI have one ... before the elections start :)21:44
DocScrutinizer05I wonder how you got iz21:44
DocScrutinizer05and particularly what it looks like21:45
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DocScrutinizer05can't be the right ballot already, since that's not even set up yet, not to think about proofreading it by council21:46
DocScrutinizer05I'm STILL missing the official announcement about which are the candidates and when the voting will start, on ML and community blog21:47
DocScrutinizer05done by chair of council21:47
DocScrutinizer05overdue since ... monday?21:47
DocScrutinizer05I don't think *anybody* already noticed about the pending elections21:48
DocScrutinizer05actually not even all candidates have posted their introduction21:49
DocScrutinizer05not even nieldk21:50
DocScrutinizer05who *should* know what to do21:50
DocScrutinizer05  still has ZILCH pending dates, totally outdated21:52
DocScrutinizer05seems the term "secret election" got misinterpreted here ;-D21:53
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infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.22:28
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DocScrutinizer05wtf tmo?23:16
DocScrutinizer05who's reading tmo random threads?23:16
DocScrutinizer05meh, why do I worry23:18
sixwheeledbeastbecause your on the council and you care23:18
DocScrutinizer05seems 50% of candidates don't even think about *introducing* themselves, and I wouldn't feel surprised if those are the ones who get voted, since they for example promis "more gifs"23:19
DocScrutinizer05seems to me as if there's a pretty cloudy idea of what council is all about, if at all, out there23:20
sixwheeledbeastI have faith in the community to select the right people. It good that we finally got so much interest.23:22
DocScrutinizer05there's a pretty obvious reason why application at ML always been mandatory. Even two: a) you can edit tmo posts all you like, any time you like. And b) nobody is supposed to keep track of all new posts on tmo23:22
sixwheeledbeastWe need fresh people as the long timers are pushed deeper into looking after infra etc.23:23
DocScrutinizer05I *think* introduction also been mandatory23:23
DocScrutinizer05I don't need fresh people wo promise "mar gifs"23:23
DocScrutinizer05moar even23:24
DocScrutinizer05I also doubt any of those who you think are "pushed deeper into looking after infra etc" will be happy about trying to cooperate with a council that's focused on stuff like posting gifs on tmo23:25
sixwheeledbeastmaybe juiceme isn't aware or busy. He's done a good job of publishing minutes of meetings as chair IMO.23:25
kerioi promise more jpgs23:26
sixwheeledbeastAs I say I trust the community to make the correct decision23:26
sixwheeledbeastjpgs of what?23:26
kerio<doc> [...] since they for example promis "more gifs"23:26
DocScrutinizer05to me it seems like 4 of our 10 candidates are more or less fake bidding (as in ebay)23:27
keriowait isn't that what we did with my candidation for last election23:27
sixwheeledbeastwell we only need 5, are they all eligible, if they do not post a declaration then there unlikely to get votes IMO23:28
sixwheeledbeastTBH bigger fish to fry than worry about something out of my control.23:30
sixwheeledbeastBut maybe it's worth mentioning to juiceme about the ML etc23:31
DocScrutinizer05I also doubt it's a right thing to have when anonymous (only nickname known) council members decide over maintainership approval for maemo infra for which we mandate full name getting disclosed to such council (and HiFo board)23:36
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sixwheeledbeast:nod: agreed.23:39
sixwheeledbeastbut without a declaration and karma check I didn't think they would be included in the vote23:41
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DocScrutinizer05or how's somebody who refuses to update own declaration on supposed to decide who gets permissions to moderate wiki?23:42
DocScrutinizer05I honestly doubt those who still haven't provided proper declaration are valid candidates23:42
DocScrutinizer05alas it's up to chair to decide that, and he seems to have a more relaxed set of requirements to council candidates23:43
DocScrutinizer05or rather, towards proper election process, which so far always included officially checking such requirements like karma, proper in time application *on ML*, proper declaration (so the contemplation period makes any sense at all) etc pp23:46
DocScrutinizer05also it's been best practice so far to check back with complete council about wording of the mail to send out being correct23:47
DocScrutinizer05and I mentioned several times that elections and candidates *need* to get *officially* (means: on blog and thus automatically on ML and _maybe_ on tmo) announced by council chair23:49
DocScrutinizer05but I'm honestly too busy and frankly also too wrecked form past 6 months, to take care of all this just another time23:51
DocScrutinizer05I tried to emphasize and point out on council tasks and general rules and what council does, during last meeting23:52
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