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Sicelofor now the CA-146C is my only way to charge. i don't mind general USB for a while (until i need a reflash)00:07
Sicelooh my, heh! i would never have thought there's a pcb inside the CA-146C .. always thought i was just straight-through, so to speak00:10
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louisdkHi. Anyone still using their N900 as their main phone? :)00:24
NIN101yes.00:26
kerioo/00:26
keriolouisdk: are you like louis c.k. but better00:26
kerio?00:26
louisdkkerio, dk stands for Denmark, so judge it yourself :)00:28
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honestlyyup.00:41
honestlyI am using n900 as my only phone.00:41
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louisdkhonestly, you're not missing any features? :)00:50
honestlynah00:53
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DocScrutinizer05~coldflash02:21
infobotmethinks coldflash is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-10-31.log.html#t2010-10-31T23:34:01 (jacekowski's instructions), or http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing02:21
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sixwheeledbeastwell some of the Karma system maybe be broken. my Karma hasn't changed in ~12 days even when I know Products and Favourites should have increased15:38
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DocScrutinizer05yoh, borked18:21
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keriobörk börk börk18:42
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DocScrutinizer05[general notice] due to karma completely broken, current council will *have to* ignore resp *guess* karma for candidates applying to elections for next council. Extended nomination period ending today! Maemo about to fall into pieces since not enough candidates fro forming a new council stepped up and volunterred yet19:27
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erlehmannDocScrutinizer05 is it possible to install maemo onto android phones?19:28
DocScrutinizer05council doesn't need technical skills (although it helps), but first and foremost a dedication to maemo community and a sense of organizing and handling stuff19:28
erlehmannDocScrutinizer05 i like it more than android, especially the development process.19:28
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erlehmanni just write desktop code for low resolution!19:28
erlehmann:)19:28
DocScrutinizer05erlehmann: short answer: no19:28
erlehmanndoes a long answer exist?19:29
DocScrutinizer05a tad longer answer:19:29
DocScrutinizer05~fptf19:29
erlehmannis it because of the proprietary bits?19:29
infobotwell, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9130819:29
erlehmannthx19:29
DocScrutinizer05yw19:29
erlehmann> we try to patch the kernel device drivers so the new device looks like the the N900 one to userland19:30
erlehmannif that can't be done we try to RE userland blobs or binary-patch them or write bridging-adapters from one ABI to the other19:30
erlehmannhard core19:30
nokiabot_how to get todays logs19:30
DocScrutinizer05/topic19:30
nokiabot_erlehmann: drivers and arteticture19:31
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nokiabot_~infobot19:31
infoboti guess infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!19:31
erlehmann~crash19:32
infobotif you have apps that just can't help but keep shooting themselves in the head, and causing you to lose unsaved data, have a look through /proc/kcore and you might be able to salvage some of the lost data: 'cat /proc/kcore | strings > kcore-file' then 'less kcore-file' works great with netscape that always likes to crash in the middle of typing in forms submissions text boxes.19:32
DocScrutinizer05~query19:32
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)19:32
erlehmannlele19:32
erlehmanngood call19:32
nokiabot_~maemo19:32
nokiabot_~query19:33
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)19:33
nokiabot_hurray19:33
nokiabot_~nokiabot19:34
erlehmann> For others (e.g. dialer) rewriting is not an option19:35
erlehmanninteresting19:35
nokiabot_err19:35
erlehmanni would have thought a dialer just craps out AT commands19:35
nokiabot_~ping19:36
infobot~pong19:36
nokiabot_yay19:36
nokiabot_~ding19:37
infobotdong19:37
nokiabot_yes19:37
nokiabot_hi,infobot19:38
nokiabot_oh19:38
DocScrutinizer05~tell nokiabot_ about query19:40
DocScrutinizer05~tell nokiabot_ about help19:40
nokiabot_i am on a new tab with infobot19:41
nokiabot_:P19:41
DocScrutinizer05finally :-)19:41
nokiabot_yeah it got a sexy voice :D19:42
nokiabot_err where it is logged19:42
DocScrutinizer05[general notice] due to karma completely broken, current council will *have to* ignore resp *guess* karma for candidates applying to elections for next council. Extended nomination period ending today! Maemo about to fall into pieces since not enough candidates fro forming a new council stepped up and volunteered yet19:42
nokiabot_*for19:43
nokiabot_will maemo go to hell now ???19:44
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DocScrutinizer05well, probably yes19:46
erlehmannDocScrutinizer05 what consequences will this have?19:47
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DocScrutinizer05what consequences does it have when the management of any entity vanishes?19:48
nokiabot_its going to be like when you flush ;-19:49
DocScrutinizer05first most obvious consequence: no new maintianers for *anything* since they have to get decided upon resp approved by council19:49
DocScrutinizer05"apply for maintainership of this package" ? forget it!19:50
DocScrutinizer05"request upload permissions to maemo-extras-devel" ? forget it!19:51
kerio~pali19:51
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/19:51
nokiabot_basically whole infra will come to a halt19:51
DocScrutinizer05kerio: I hope that wasm't on topic19:52
keriohow can that be on topic19:53
kerioi just had to get the link to pali's website because it's literally nowhere to be found on google for some reason19:53
nokiabot_damm that site is blazing fast like i am on lte19:55
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DocScrutinizer05wth? does anybody else see weird new URL and a need to reauthenticate at tmo?23:45
DocScrutinizer05URL with a s=ko48224889wr789w4p8924 parameter that never before been there23:46
Siceloseems still fine with me23:46
DocScrutinizer05o.O23:46
DocScrutinizer05session parameter in URL, that's new23:47
DocScrutinizer05sth on my system went south really terribly during last few hours23:48
DocScrutinizer05akonadi-server-mailtransport cocked up eating one CPU and 4GB RAM23:48
DocScrutinizer05then KDE plasmabar systray switched back to old icons, then mail accounts that worked great suddenly complain about expired certs for TLS23:49
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* DocScrutinizer05 goes rebooting *now*23:50
DocScrutinizer05as much as it may hurt23:50
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