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| Snafu777_ | infobot, tell everybody that Snafu777_ has the sexiest keymap | 00:11 |
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| Snafu777_ | ~vicodin | 00:12 |
| Snafu777_ | infobot, say hi | 00:12 |
| infobot | hi | 00:12 |
| Snafu777_ | infobot, say Snafu has a sexy keymap | 00:13 |
| infobot | Snafu has a sexy keymap | 00:13 |
| * Snafu777_ agrees | 00:13 | |
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| sixwheeledbeast | hmm | 00:38 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Will I found this http://maemo.org/packages/view/tovmae/ thp's keymap package | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that's a pretty weird maemo package | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and it has awesome preinst and postrm files | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if it works | 01:26 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | That was my thought, checking the source out. | 09:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | weird request: can somebody point me to the sources for N900-nitdroid please? Or even to the particular source for ECI accessory (headset buttons) | 12:33 |
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| Wnt | DocScrutinizer05: is this what you are looking for? https://gitorious.org/android-n900 | 12:51 |
| Wnt | one of the repositories under that | 12:52 |
| Wnt | the original author might be able to help you that exact piece of source: https://twitter.com/drunkdebugger | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Wnt: looking for the multibutton headset driver aka ECI | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly to be found under /dev/eci* | 12:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://nitdroid.de/category/nitdroidnews/ >>Hier eine Liste aller Sachen, die laut e-yes “funktionieren sollten”: [...] ECI accessory (headset buttons) << | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI it works on N900 too, right? | 13:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mxr | 13:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: mxr broken or empty? | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/27/plasma-desktopW27898.png | 13:18 |
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| timeless | DocScrutinizer05: is this using mxr.maemo.org = nslookup(timeless.justdate.net) ? | 17:45 |
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| timeless | hrm | 17:49 |
| timeless | it does seem somewhat unhappy | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: tis is wit ezc/hosts hack | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: this is wit etc/hosts hack | 18:08 |
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| * timeless nods | 18:29 | |
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| timeless | yeah, something's wrong | 18:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo mxr is <reply>`echo '66.33.208.86 mxr.maemo.org' >>/etc/hosts` | 18:41 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mxr | 18:41 |
| infobot | `echo '66.33.208.86 mxr.maemo.org' >>/etc/hosts` | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo mxr.maemo.org is <reply>see mxr | 18:42 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mxr.maemo.org | 18:42 |
| infobot | `echo '66.33.208.86 mxr.maemo.org' >>/etc/hosts` | 18:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo mxr is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-25.log.html#t2013-10-25T23:30:42 or simply do `echo '66.33.208.86 mxr.maemo.org' >>/etc/hosts` | 19:10 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mxr.maemo.org | 19:10 |
| infobot | rumour has it, mxr is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-25.log.html#t2013-10-25T23:30:42 or simply do `echo '66.33.208.86 mxr.maemo.org' >>/etc/hosts` | 19:10 |
| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: hi | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi Shapeshifter! long time no see | 19:11 |
| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: Hello, hello. Still have my N900, daily use :) In any case, I got a question for you - not sure if it's answerable... Imagine a smart watch, but with a 5.25" screen. Would it be possible to power something like this using just 2 AA batteries? | 19:13 |
| Shapeshifter | I thought you might ballpark this | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 19:13 |
| Shapeshifter | power it for a couple of hours, that is | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why wouldn't it be possible? the question is for how long you can power it | 19:14 |
| Shapeshifter | I'm sure you're familiar with the Psion 5? | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this question is impossible to answer without a bunch of very specific details about the platform | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly familiar | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I have an idea what a device it is | 19:15 |
| Shapeshifter | I was thinking, if it were possible to cram a small arm board in there and put linux on it. But I don't think it's possible, since there's no space for a large enough battery to power the board and screen and wifi and everything for any reasonable length. But what if it's just an oversized smart watch? i.e. only needing to power a graphics display and bluetooth and add a protocol for transferring keystrokes and display taps. I'm not ... | 19:17 |
| Shapeshifter | ... sure if bluetooth has sufficient bandwith though, either | 19:17 |
| Shapeshifter | Basically I still miss my old psion. It's the perfect portable. The N900 is neat but just a bit too small. the keyboard is usable but cramped. The Psion was absolutely perfect. You could write actual work on that thin | 19:18 |
| Shapeshifter | g | 19:18 |
| Shapeshifter | it's just an idea | 19:18 |
| Shapeshifter | but if it's impossible to revive the Psion 5 "neo900 style", as in full hw replacement, which I think it is, maybe it's possible to convert it into a dumb peripheral at least | 19:18 |
| Shapeshifter | because then one could place a fairly large battery pack where the original board was. | 19:19 |
| Shapeshifter | http://www.rugged-portable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Psion_5mx_disassembly.jpg | 19:19 |
| Shapeshifter | http://www.rugged-portable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Psion_5mx_side.jpg such a brilliant keyboard... ;_; | 19:19 |
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| Shapeshifter | but it's probably very difficult. smart watches communicate very little it seems. but if one were to write text or even view animations/video on the screen, there would have to be too much communication. | 19:23 |
| Shapeshifter | aww man, I just wish they would build me a modern psion one of these days... | 19:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you for sure can upgrade the thing ala GTA04 or NeoN, doing a full swap of main PCB | 19:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | see for example ben nanonote | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is using a not too bad CPU, running linux, should fit into the psion 5 case | 19:27 |
| Shapeshifter | mhh | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no ben nanonote swap board availsble, but you *could* build your own one, customized for the psion | 19:28 |
| Humpelstilzchen | DocScrutinizer05: do you usually send feedback mails when you got a donation? | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Humpelstilzchen: yes, we do, though only around once per week | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for paypal the notification scheme is yet to get established though | 19:32 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | DocScrutinizer05: k I donated on June 16 but havn't got a confirmaiton mail yet | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plase /query dos1 | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please | 19:33 |
| Humpelstilzchen | k | 19:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Humpelstilzchen: please also check your spam folder! | 19:34 |
| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: that nanonote is really tiny. so it were actually possible... | 19:35 |
| Humpelstilzchen | DocScrutinizer05: solved, thanks | 19:35 |
| Shapeshifter | too bad it looks unusable | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Humpelstilzchen: ooh, that been fast | 19:35 |
| Shapeshifter | that keyboard is even worse than the n900 | 19:35 |
| dos1 | :) | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Shapeshifter: I know. I didn't suggest the device, I talked about the mainboard | 19:36 |
| Shapeshifter | sure | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, the system | 19:36 |
| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: what do you mean by "could build my own"? Actual board design? | 19:37 |
| Shapeshifter | i.e. differently shaped pcb with parts moved around? | 19:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, in theory you can do exactly this | 19:41 |
| Shapeshifter | well yeah. not me though.. | 19:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | THIS thing had an incredibly great kbd (no surprise, right ;-D ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_200LX | 20:28 |
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| kerio | you know what has a good keyboard? my laptop | 20:32 |
| kerio | and it's thinner than that | 20:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | simply no kbd ever connected to a laptop has a kbd that can compete with the HP keys used in their calculators and the 200LX | 20:46 |
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| ecc3g | dang, I still have my 200LX. | 20:58 |
| bencoh | :) | 20:58 |
| ecc3g | and a broken 100LX | 20:58 |
| ecc3g | the keyboard is sturdy and tactile indeed... but still too small to touchtype | 20:59 |
| ecc3g | have to type just like on the n900... using the two-thumb method. | 20:59 |
| jaska | i drooled at those 100/200lx as a kid | 20:59 |
| jaska | sadly tablets and phones ate the sector | 21:01 |
| ecc3g | I was using it as a pda for several years... pretty good, even great battery life... alas, no network access | 21:01 |
| ecc3g | Forgot how many hours I could get out of two NiCd AA's... only 1.5Wh of power there, then again, it has no backlight :o | 21:03 |
| ecc3g | Morphy-1. HA. | 21:04 |
| ecc3g | or what was it called... | 21:04 |
| ecc3g | basically the "Neo900" of the 200LX. | 21:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I hope not | 21:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://gitorious.org/android-n900/kernel-ng/source/72b729c2a4 (ECI aka multibutton wired headset, this time for real err for N900) | 22:14 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders why *nobody* ever ported that to e.g. maemo kernel-power yet | 22:14 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now the question is: Does Neo900 need to support it at all? | 22:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: pali: ^^^ | 22:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I'd be happy if the one button would work... | 22:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it does | 23:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | damn, seems I trunkated that URL above | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://gitorious.org/android-n900/kernel-ng/source/72b729c2a46d4226822776f198370e30a1b3dc91:include/linux/input/eci.h#L32 | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://gitorious.org/android-n900/kernel-ng/source/72b729c2a46d4226822776f198370e30a1b3dc91:drivers/input/misc/eci.c | 23:29 |
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