IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2014-06-21

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ecc3gsigh...wish it were possible to make an answering machine out of an n900...03:06
dos1why wouldn't it be possible?03:14
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ecc3gis there an application available?03:20
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dos1ecc3g: well, dunno, but it looks to me like something perfectly possible to implement ;)03:33
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sixwheeledbeastecc3g: a combination of http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Answer_current_phone_call , espeak and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90398 seems feasible.11:03
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sixwheeledbeast\o/ zzztop in Extras13:04
sixwheeledbeast~zzztop13:06
infobotit has been said that zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop13:06
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sixwheeledbeastah so maemo.org does "work" just nobody uses it since migration.15:06
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DocScrutinizer05huh?15:21
DocScrutinizer05btw BM in Extras15:21
DocScrutinizer05and BM-latest in -testing15:22
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sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: check out fresh packages on mo15:33
DocScrutinizer05ell, no problem with that15:33
sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: does the latest version of bm need testing to promote?15:34
DocScrutinizer05yep15:34
sixwheeledbeastmaybe worth bumping the bm thread on TMO then15:35
sixwheeledbeastI am hoping I will get Products" Karma for zzztop to see if that works.15:35
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DocScrutinizer05>> just nobody uses it since migration<< ???15:40
sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: There have been no "Fresh" packages on there for years.15:42
DocScrutinizer05ummm, maybe not in extras, since testing stalled and promotion been borked for quite a while15:43
sixwheeledbeastInfoZip has been "fresh" and on the packages RSS feed since 201215:44
DocScrutinizer05I think -devel sees new packages every other week15:44
DocScrutinizer05btw I don't see BM in "fresh" either15:45
sixwheeledbeastI know repository is fine15:45
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DocScrutinizer05generally speaking update of the website http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ (and firends) been a broken cron job since ages, and since migration I don't think it ever *really* finished but rether aborts eventually due to OOM15:46
DocScrutinizer05http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/graph_all_periods.php?h=www&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2&st=1403354843&g=mem_report&z=large&c=maemo15:48
DocScrutinizer05look e.g. "last 8h"15:49
keriodoes *anyone* actually use that site15:55
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DocScrutinizer05eh?16:05
DocScrutinizer05define "site"!16:05
DocScrutinizer05when you're talking about http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/* - I just tried to understand how it's sorted and how to find anything there, and gave up. Useless16:06
DocScrutinizer05actually now zzztop is on rank #1 of "hot" - with ONE download. MUUHAAAHAAAA16:08
DocScrutinizer05well, "fresh" isn't sorted by number of downloads anyway, just like "fresh" seems not sorted by date of upload16:10
erlehmannlel16:11
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sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: so m.o/downloads/Maemo5 is suppose to be feed by a cronjob?16:15
DocScrutinizer05yup16:15
sixwheeledbeastmmm16:15
DocScrutinizer05like everything on maemo.org, basically16:15
DocScrutinizer05midgard cronjobs16:15
DocScrutinizer05@.@16:16
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DocScrutinizer05and *midgard* actually is... Well I guess there might be roundabout 3 living people on this globe that might grok how our obsolete midgard version works16:17
sixwheeledbeastwell I assumed the page was made by the developer, hence "not used"16:18
DocScrutinizer05one of them did migration, updated some midgard stuff during that, and this broke a _lot_ of stuff already16:18
sixwheeledbeastpopular, hot and fresh. With one download, hmm16:19
DocScrutinizer05yeah, and BM doesn't show up anywhere16:21
DocScrutinizer05except of course on package interface: http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/16:22
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/repository/latest/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/all/  .oO(???)16:23
DocScrutinizer05ooh, maybe that's only -devel16:24
xesDocScrutinizer05: maybe i have seen a stupid thing that could be the problem blocking http://maemo.org/downloads update16:25
DocScrutinizer05the URL actually gives it away16:25
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DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/repository/latest/fremantle_extras_free_armel/all/  \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/16:26
DocScrutinizer05xes: shoot16:26
xesthe update script had hardcoded to point to the home of an user that doesn't exist anymore16:27
DocScrutinizer05LOLWUT?!16:28
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DocScrutinizer05sounds exactly like maemo-midgard, yes16:28
xesseems that something has changed...16:32
sixwheeledbeastwhere is the update script?16:34
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sixwheeledbeasteh, loads of "fresh" item now....16:35
xesjust gived the same kick-fix also to os2008,os2007...16:36
sixwheeledbeastAll the "fresh" items have updated. "hot" items are still the same16:37
DocScrutinizer05just was about to ask "is there *anything* _not_ of today 13:30?", but... :  http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/Maemo5/25/?org_openpsa_qbpager_latest_products_page=3016:39
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: when you don't go for next council, i dunno who else should or ought16:42
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DocScrutinizer05and maybe xes as well? - oh, prolly he doesn't like to16:42
sixwheeledbeastI have other Maemo things higher on my priority list.16:44
xesDocScrutinizer05: EH?16:44
DocScrutinizer05council16:44
xesthese scripts only take care of "fresh" packages make a "diff" of current last package with the archived info of old fresh. "HOT" is another story16:45
xes*making16:45
DocScrutinizer05hot is BS anyway16:45
DocScrutinizer05pretty useless16:45
DocScrutinizer05maybe should die16:46
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sixwheeledbeastwell thanks for fixing that xes. At least my RSS feed will show something new this week16:48
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sixwheeledbeastI agree HOT is a bit pointless, but nice to have other packages sharing the limelight on the page16:49
xesok... enabled again the scheduled update of fresh packages. As soon as there are new packages things shoud start to have more sense16:51
xes(since now everything seems to be new)16:52
DocScrutinizer05xes for king!16:52
sixwheeledbeast:nod:16:53
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sixwheeledbeastso now we wait for some more package testers...17:18
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freemangordonwhat?!? package update was simply disabled?18:12
freemangordonyay!!! it seems to work even18:13
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sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: the maemo.org main site18:27
freemangordonyeah, I know18:27
freemangordon"downloads" section18:28
sixwheeledbeast:nod:18:28
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sixwheeledbeastI think I have just found a bug in the phone application.20:19
sixwheeledbeastwell another bug20:20
sixwheeledbeastit only checks the last 7 digits of the number against your contacts20:21
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freemangordonI guess that is a feature :)20:34
bef0rdI think whatsapp only checks last N digits too, if you have contacts without country code or something like that20:42
sixwheeledbeastwhen you dial "2345543266" but have a contact with "1235543266" it logs as a call to the contact but dials the number you called.20:44
sixwheeledbeastThis also means recent calls doesn't call the number you originally dialled but the one in your contacts.20:45
sixwheeledbeastdamn closed parts of Maemo :(20:47
DocScrutinizer05~seen slonopotamus20:47
infobotslonopotamus <~slonopota@83.149.8.177> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 680d 1h 28m 32s ago, saying: 'i haven't used skype on n900 30 months ago?'.20:47
dos1http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-utils.git;a=summary20:47
dos1a nice library for matching phone numbers, taking all country/area/whatever codes into consideration20:48
DocScrutinizer05for the record: thanks to slono for20:48
DocScrutinizer05~xy20:48
infobotsomebody said xy was The XY problem: You want to do X, but don't know how. You think you can solve it using Y, but don't know how to do that, either. You ask about Y, which is a strange thing to want to do. Just ask about X.20:48
dos1implemented per DocScrutinizer05's specs :D20:48
DocScrutinizer05ooh, telnum-normalization?20:48
dos1yup20:49
DocScrutinizer05I wonder if it could convert sip://0049911888888@sipgate.de  to a proper +49-911-88888820:50
dos1see sixwheeledbeast's posts above20:50
DocScrutinizer05if not, it's crap ;-P20:50
* dos1 boots SHR20:50
dos1let's check :P20:50
xeshmm...nope20:52
DocScrutinizer05I guess you should be able to define "sip://00" as an alternative to "00" and "+"20:53
DocScrutinizer05and @ is no valid number digit, thus should start truncation of controlcodes20:54
xescontry codes and area codes are a pain to identify (world wide). While considering just a country seems easy, if you pick south america or some africa zone you'll gain a monster headache20:54
DocScrutinizer05just like ";" and "p" and "w"20:55
DocScrutinizer05dos1: mind you, my specs demanded for proper perl regex iirc ;-)20:57
DocScrutinizer05ooh, and an implementation hint: since the regex are user config parameters and thus semi-static, I suggest doing the regex-"compile" at config-store time already, so you can save this part for all later runs of normalize-telnum21:00
DocScrutinizer05I wonder if you implemented the trailing "*" for stored numbers, to allow for extensions21:04
DocScrutinizer05sored contact: "ACME Corp:  001-555-1234*"; user dials "0015551234042" and contact lookup finds ACME Corp21:06
DocScrutinizer05wth?21:06
DocScrutinizer05stored* contact:21:06
DocScrutinizer05prolly one "*" should allow for a user-configurable maximum of e.g. 3 digits for extension, but multiple "*" are allowed at end of number21:08
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DocScrutinizer05dos1: in http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=libphone-utils.git;a=blob;f=src/lib/phone-utils.c;h=2843c66007280e6100e01eb221de97015502f8dc;hb=781d866bc12eec293007851fe3c300d0f5a301d3#l397 that's a bug, since #389 and #392 already take care21:23
DocScrutinizer05incredible, lemme check if i can find *my* version ;-)21:28
DocScrutinizer05I think it was sth like a sed oneliner21:28
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DocScrutinizer05gotit21:36
DocScrutinizer05normalize(){21:36
DocScrutinizer05 echo "${1}" | sed "s/[wWpP\;\,].*//; s/[ -]//g; s/\([0-9]\)(${NP})\([0-9]\)/\1\2/; s/.*[^0-9+]//; s/^${IP}/\+/; s/^${NP}/\+${CC}/; s/^\([^\+]\)/\+${CC}${AC}\1/"21:36
DocScrutinizer05}21:36
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DocScrutinizer05meh!21:38
DocScrutinizer05[wWpP\;\,].*   ->   [wWpP\;\,@].*21:38
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DocScrutinizer05maybe even [^0-9+\(\) ABCD]21:40
DocScrutinizer05.*21:40
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federico3hi there21:49
federico3any bitcoin wallet for maemo that can read QR-codes?21:49
DocScrutinizer05err there's qbarcode or whatsitcalled. No idea about bitcoin wallet21:51
DocScrutinizer05if there is, you should be able to plug it into qbarcode I guess21:52
federico3thank you21:54
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, the above posted sed regex version of normalize is prolly a interim or beta version22:02
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keriofederico3: i don't see any reason why bitcoin-qt wouldn't work on the n90022:43
kerioexcept for, you know, the stupidly high system requirements22:43
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sixwheeledbeastmbarcode22:52
federico3plus dependencies, integration with the qr-code reader, UI glitches...22:54
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dos1it would be great if extras-devel would work like debian experimental...23:18
dos1so it could be enabled all the time and packages that exist only in this repo could be installed, but it wouldn't upgrade to versions from it unless explicitely requested23:19
federico3dos1: like Debian Unstable with package pinning23:22
dos1yup23:25
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