| sixwheeledbeast | Err, IIRC stable can only detect FAT on uSD, think pali pushed changes to CSSU-T for ext | 00:00 |
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| wizbit | ill use vfat | 00:01 |
| wizbit | can use usb drive with that | 00:01 |
| wizbit | so more benefits | 00:01 |
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| Sicelo | stable can also do ext* :) | 00:02 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: can it, I wasn't sure. I remember getting "Card Unsupported" with a ext3 first partition. | 00:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maybe this was pr1.3.1 | 00:05 |
| Sicelo | yes, it does. i've have ext3 on my uSD for a long time, and only started using Testing recently | 00:06 |
| bencoh | yeah it does | 00:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo, bencoh: yes, your both correct http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo4_.2805.09.2012.29 | 00:13 |
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| wizbit | all sorted im confident its working now | 00:25 |
| wizbit | first partiton vfat | 00:25 |
| wizbit | 2nd partiton swap | 00:25 |
| wizbit | checked blocks for error on both parttiions | 00:26 |
| wizbit | thanks for your help :D | 00:26 |
| wizbit | i will write all this down incase i lose phone again :D | 00:27 |
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| wizbit | thanks for help people :D | 00:42 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | mmm "sgx_misr" | 10:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | bug9150 | 10:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | it would appear if [sgx_misr] is stuck at 98% and screen is blank, this is a kernel thread; the only way to recover is reboot? | 10:20 |
| freemangordon | bug 9150 | 10:21 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9150 Device doesn't respond via UI. syslog reports HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered, sgx_misr eating all CPU | 10:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | yep that's it | 11:05 |
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| freemangordon | it is interesting that this bug is triggered almost instantly with 3.x kernels, but the device recovers somehow | 11:06 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | 946 1 messageb D < 66272 28.1 0.0 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork | 11:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | mmm | 11:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh well rebooted | 11:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | This seems to happen when the CPU is left working over night while screen is locked, happened on two different devices now. | 11:12 |
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| honestly | has anyone tried shorting the D+ and D- test points under the n900's battery to see if that makes dumb chargers work? | 14:59 |
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| rcg | honestly, iirc that was discussed quite a few times on tmo | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's trivial and doesn't need check to verify | 15:29 |
| honestly | any discussion on how to choose resister value? | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nobody found a sound rationale yet why you would want to short those testpads instead of shorting D+/- in your USB plug | 15:30 |
| honestly | ah | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what resistor? | 15:30 |
| honestly | well in my case it would mean not having to bastardize a usb cable | 15:30 |
| honestly | the resistor used to bridge D+ and D- | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in your case it woukd mean you ruin your N900 by shorting D+/- in a way that's possibly breaking the USB datapath permanently | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no such thing like a resistor to *short* something | 15:31 |
| Snafu777 | If anyone here has a Surfboard SBG6580 modem, I have something that might be of interest to you. | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((bastardize a usb cable)) there are USB adatper dongles to do that shorting of D+/-, some even come with a *switch* to short the two lines, FWIW | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cost: some 3 to 5 bucks | 15:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | a zero ohm resistor would be a "short" ;) | 19:11 |
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| honestly | I have a lot of 0 ohm resistors in my resistor kit | 19:59 |
| honestly | they exist (: | 19:59 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I normally keep some handy, they can look better than a link. | 20:05 |
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| ecc3g | dang. I need to get some 0 ohm wire. That works at room temperature. | 20:15 |
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| wizbit | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27908105 | 20:28 |
| wizbit | how worrying | 20:28 |
| wizbit | i bought my n900 from ebay hong kong :/ | 20:29 |
| bencoh | erm, actually I thought those n900 from ebay/hongkong were fake | 20:30 |
| bencoh | aren't they ? | 20:30 |
| Nokiabot | What is that | 20:30 |
| wizbit | my n900 seems real enough? | 20:32 |
| wizbit | how can i tell if its fake? | 20:32 |
| Nokiabot | What is that link | 20:32 |
| Sicelo | wizbit: haha. | 20:32 |
| Sicelo | :D | 20:32 |
| Sicelo | stop worrying | 20:33 |
| bencoh | wizbit: oh well I guess it isnt then ^^ | 20:33 |
| bencoh | wizbit: I was referring to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd7IVCV3Jg and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91761 | 20:33 |
| Nokiabot | Err | 20:33 |
| wizbit | is there a such thing as a fake n900? | 20:34 |
| bencoh | seems so | 20:34 |
| Sicelo | yes, there are | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HK N900 are "fake" in that they are sold as "new, unusued" but when you open the device you find lots of debris and dust and evidence of repair work | 20:34 |
| bencoh | never bought one, so ... | 20:34 |
| wizbit | my device does say 'made in finland on it' | 20:34 |
| wizbit | however, it works and feels like the real thing | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM | 20:35 |
| wizbit | aye ok | 20:35 |
| wizbit | Mem: 235252 229988 5264 | 20:35 |
| bencoh | :) | 20:35 |
| Nokiabot | Yep i saw one | 20:35 |
| Sicelo | wizbit: obviously a fake N900 won't run Maemo | 20:36 |
| wizbit | yep true | 20:36 |
| Nokiabot | @Docscr yep i saw many | 20:36 |
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| dos1 | and now everyone will check their amount of ram to ensure that their device is not a fake... :D | 20:37 |
| Humpelstilzchen | I have only 8M :( | 20:37 |
| Humpelstilzchen | (in the free col) | 20:38 |
| FIQ | (19:35:19) (DocScrutinizer05) the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM | 20:38 |
| FIQ | there are fake N900s? | 20:38 |
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| Nokiabot | Sicelo: it runs propetiery os that comes with the cpu either genric mtk or spd nowadays mstar but you can find as high as 64 mb now with 256 mb rom | 20:38 |
| FIQ | I thought it was too obscure for that, but ok | 20:38 |
| Sicelo | ? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Humpelstilzchen: as long as it still runs apps from maemo-extras, just don't worry. Chinese copy cats made a miracle device that can run maemo apps in 8MB ;-P | 20:38 |
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| bencoh | :D | 20:39 |
| FIQ | I would be genuinely surprised if chinese market pulled off making a fake N900 with proper (or even modified) maemo on it | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: no, those are usually absolutely genuine NOKLA N900 | 20:39 |
| FIQ | "usually" | 20:40 |
| Nokiabot | Did anyone found any low end device running linux ? | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, some are not labebeled "NOKLA" | 20:40 |
| Nokiabot | Nokai | 20:40 |
| Nokiabot | Samgsang | 20:41 |
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| Nokiabot | Actually nowadays manufacturers are smart they leave the label area and provide sticker labels :p | 20:42 |
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| wizbit | where is a cool place to get ringtones? | 21:02 |
| wizbit | or can the n900 use a existing mp3 as a ringtone? | 21:02 |
| wizbit | also, i tried installing blessN900 but it doesnt work with power kernel installed | 21:03 |
| wizbit | does blessN900 really make photos look nicer? | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | yes, mp3s work for ringtones, and blessN900 does realy work | 21:05 |
| Humpelstilzchen | well if you can't make good photos, software won't help ;) | 21:05 |
| wizbit | blessN900 doesnt work with my power kernel :( | 21:10 |
| Sicelo | and what power kernel is that? | 21:12 |
| wizbit | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l unknown | 21:14 |
| Sicelo | i'm using same kernel, and blessN900 works. just reinstall it (blessN900) | 21:15 |
| wizbit | ace | 21:15 |
| wizbit | installed, restarted and testing | 21:17 |
| wizbit | when i open and close the lense cover it says 'operation failed' | 21:18 |
| wizbit | and if i launch bless manually it opens then it closes | 21:19 |
| Sicelo | you'll have to close stock camera first | 21:19 |
| wizbit | how do you do that | 21:19 |
| Humpelstilzchen | reboot helps | 21:20 |
| wizbit | i will issue: reboot from terminal | 21:21 |
| Sicelo | and check TMO .. i do remember theat there was some kernel problem, but iirc a reinstall generally fixed that.. | 21:22 |
| wizbit | done a reboot, launched bless, it trys to open then it quits | 21:23 |
| wizbit | maybe i need to use a updated version of bless | 21:23 |
| wizbit | let me check the version | 21:23 |
| Humpelstilzchen | 0.49-4 works for me | 21:24 |
| wizbit | im using 0.49-3 | 21:24 |
| wizbit | i wonder what repro has 0.49-4 on it | 21:24 |
| Humpelstilzchen | 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages | 21:25 |
| Humpelstilzchen | but -3 -4 indicates only a packaging, not software update | 21:25 |
| Sicelo | i also have 0.49-4 | 21:26 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | .o0(too many FIQs) | 21:26 |
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| wizbit | maybe the packaging makes it work | 21:29 |
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| wizbit | Sicelo: what repro are you using | 21:45 |
| wizbit | i need to use FAM | 21:47 |
| Sicelo | FAM is apparently a very bad idea | 21:49 |
| Sicelo | just download bless from Ovi .. should still be available | 21:50 |
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| wizbit | eek ok | 21:53 |
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| wizbit | i can see the problem now | 22:11 |
| wizbit | if i launch blessN900 from terminal it says | 22:11 |
| wizbit | Cannot open /dev/video0 no such directory | 22:11 |
| wizbit | so maybe the FCAM drivers dont work my kernel | 22:12 |
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| wizbit | found them in extra devl | 22:20 |
| wizbit | devel :D | 22:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman | 23:50 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 23:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | with camera drivers it's a known problem that they stay locked to obsolte version when you change kernel. You need to uninstall *all* camera apps that have a dependency to the drivers, then installing the first one a new will pull in the correct drivers for your kernel | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | obsolete* | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a brute force method how to do the driver update without uninstalling all camera apps, but I forgot about the details | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and probably odds are that you end up with a garbled package database | 23:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: ^^^ | 23:57 |
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