IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2014-06-18

sixwheeledbeastErr, IIRC stable can only detect FAT on uSD, think pali pushed changes to CSSU-T for ext00:00
wizbitill use vfat00:01
wizbitcan use usb drive with that00:01
wizbitso more benefits00:01
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Sicelostable can also do ext* :)00:02
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sixwheeledbeastSicelo: can it, I wasn't sure. I remember getting "Card Unsupported" with a ext3 first partition.00:04
sixwheeledbeastmaybe this was pr1.3.100:05
Siceloyes, it does. i've have ext3 on my uSD for a long time, and only started using Testing recently00:06
bencohyeah it does00:07
sixwheeledbeastSicelo, bencoh: yes, your both correct
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wizbitall sorted im confident its working now00:25
wizbitfirst partiton vfat00:25
wizbit2nd partiton swap00:25
wizbitchecked blocks for error on both parttiions00:26
wizbitthanks for your help :D00:26
wizbiti will write all this down incase i lose phone again :D00:27
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wizbitthanks for help people :D00:42
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sixwheeledbeastmmm "sgx_misr"10:13
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sixwheeledbeastit would appear if [sgx_misr] is stuck at 98% and screen is blank, this is a kernel thread; the only way to recover is reboot?10:20
freemangordonbug 915010:21
povbotBug Device doesn't respond via UI. syslog reports HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered, sgx_misr eating all CPU10:21
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sixwheeledbeastyep that's it11:05
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freemangordonit is interesting that this bug is triggered almost instantly with 3.x kernels, but the device recovers somehow11:06
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sixwheeledbeast  946     1 messageb D <  66272 28.1  0.0 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork11:09
sixwheeledbeastoh well rebooted11:10
sixwheeledbeastThis seems to happen when the CPU is left working over night while screen is locked, happened on two different devices now.11:12
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honestlyhas anyone tried shorting the D+ and D- test points under the n900's battery to see if that makes dumb chargers work?14:59
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rcghonestly, iirc that was discussed quite a few times on tmo15:28
DocScrutinizer05it's trivial and doesn't need check to verify15:29
honestlyany discussion on how to choose resister value?15:30
DocScrutinizer05nobody found a sound rationale yet why you would want to short those testpads instead of shorting D+/- in your USB plug15:30
DocScrutinizer05what resistor?15:30
honestlywell in my case it would mean not having to bastardize a usb cable15:30
honestlythe resistor used to bridge D+ and D-15:31
DocScrutinizer05in your case it woukd mean you ruin your N900 by shorting D+/- in a way that's possibly breaking the USB datapath permanently15:31
DocScrutinizer05there's no such thing like a resistor to *short* something15:31
Snafu777If anyone here has a Surfboard SBG6580 modem, I have something that might be of interest to you.15:32
DocScrutinizer05((bastardize a usb cable)) there are USB adatper dongles to do that shorting of D+/-, some even come with a *switch* to short the two lines, FWIW15:34
DocScrutinizer05cost: some 3 to 5 bucks15:35
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!15:57
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infobotIt's great to be back!15:57
FIQhi infobot15:57
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sixwheeledbeasta zero ohm resistor would be a "short" ;)19:11
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honestlyI have a lot of 0 ohm resistors in my resistor kit19:59
honestlythey exist (:19:59
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sixwheeledbeastI normally keep some handy, they can look better than a link.20:05
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ecc3gdang.  I need to get some 0 ohm wire.  That works at room temperature.20:15
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wizbithow worrying20:28
wizbiti bought my n900 from ebay hong kong :/20:29
bencoherm, actually I thought those n900 from ebay/hongkong were fake20:30
bencoharen't they ?20:30
NokiabotWhat is that20:30
wizbitmy n900 seems real enough?20:32
wizbithow can i tell if its fake?20:32
NokiabotWhat is that link20:32
Sicelowizbit: haha.20:32
Sicelostop worrying20:33
bencohwizbit: oh well I guess it isnt then ^^20:33
bencohwizbit: I was referring to and
wizbitis there a such thing as a fake n900?20:34
bencohseems so20:34
Siceloyes, there are20:34
DocScrutinizer05HK N900 are "fake" in that they are sold as "new, unusued" but when you open the device you find lots of debris and dust and evidence of repair work20:34
bencohnever bought one, so ...20:34
wizbitmy device does say 'made in finland on it'20:34
wizbithowever, it works and feels like the real thing20:34
DocScrutinizer05the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM20:35
wizbitaye ok20:35
wizbit  Mem:       235252       229988         526420:35
NokiabotYep i saw one20:35
Sicelowizbit: obviously a fake N900 won't run Maemo20:36
wizbityep true20:36
Nokiabot@Docscr yep i saw many20:36
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dos1and now everyone will check their amount of ram to ensure that their device is not a fake... :D20:37
HumpelstilzchenI have only 8M :(20:37
Humpelstilzchen(in the free col)20:38
FIQ(19:35:19) (DocScrutinizer05) the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM20:38
FIQthere are fake N900s?20:38
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NokiabotSicelo: it runs propetiery os that comes with the cpu either genric mtk or spd nowadays mstar but you can find as high as 64 mb now with 256 mb rom20:38
FIQI thought it was too obscure for that, but ok20:38
DocScrutinizer05Humpelstilzchen: as long as it still runs apps from maemo-extras, just don't worry. Chinese copy cats made a miracle device that can run maemo apps in 8MB ;-P20:38
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FIQI would be genuinely surprised if chinese market pulled off making a fake N900 with proper (or even modified) maemo on it20:39
DocScrutinizer05FIQ: no, those are usually absolutely genuine NOKLA N90020:39
NokiabotDid anyone found any low end device running linux ?20:40
DocScrutinizer05well, some are not labebeled "NOKLA"20:40
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NokiabotActually nowadays manufacturers are smart they leave the label area and provide sticker labels :p20:42
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wizbitwhere is a cool place to get ringtones?21:02
wizbitor can the n900 use a existing mp3 as a ringtone?21:02
wizbitalso, i tried installing blessN900 but it doesnt work with power kernel installed21:03
wizbitdoes blessN900 really make photos look nicer?21:04
Siceloyes, mp3s work for ringtones, and blessN900 does realy work21:05
Humpelstilzchenwell if you can't make good photos, software won't help ;)21:05
wizbitblessN900 doesnt work with my power kernel :(21:10
Siceloand what power kernel is that?21:12
wizbitLinux Nokia-N900 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l unknown21:14
Siceloi'm using same kernel, and blessN900 works. just reinstall it (blessN900)21:15
wizbitinstalled, restarted and testing21:17
wizbitwhen i open and close the lense cover it says 'operation failed'21:18
wizbitand if i launch bless manually it opens then it closes21:19
Siceloyou'll have to close stock camera first21:19
wizbithow do you do that21:19
Humpelstilzchenreboot helps21:20
wizbiti will issue: reboot from terminal21:21
Siceloand check TMO .. i do remember theat there was some kernel problem, but iirc a reinstall generally fixed that..21:22
wizbitdone a reboot, launched bless, it trys to open then it quits21:23
wizbitmaybe i need to use a updated version of bless21:23
wizbitlet me check the version21:23
Humpelstilzchen0.49-4 works for me21:24
wizbitim using 0.49-321:24
wizbiti wonder what repro has 0.49-4 on it21:24
Humpelstilzchen500 ./ Packages21:25
Humpelstilzchenbut -3 -4 indicates only a packaging, not software update21:25
Siceloi also have 0.49-421:26
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Humpelstilzchen.o0(too many FIQs)21:26
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wizbitmaybe the packaging makes it work21:29
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wizbitSicelo: what repro are you using21:45
wizbiti need to use FAM21:47
SiceloFAM is apparently a very bad idea21:49
Sicelojust download bless from Ovi .. should still be available21:50
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wizbiteek ok21:53
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wizbiti can see the problem now22:11
wizbitif i launch blessN900 from terminal it says22:11
wizbitCannot open /dev/video0 no such directory22:11
wizbitso maybe the FCAM drivers dont work my kernel22:12
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wizbitfound them in extra devl22:20
wizbitdevel :D22:20
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam23:50
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DocScrutinizer05with camera drivers it's a known problem that they stay locked to obsolte version when you change kernel. You need to uninstall *all* camera apps that have a dependency to the drivers, then installing the first one a new will pull in the correct drivers for your kernel23:53
DocScrutinizer05there's a brute force method how to do the driver update without uninstalling all camera apps, but I forgot about the details23:54
DocScrutinizer05and probably odds are that you end up with a garbled package database23:55
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DocScrutinizer05wizbit: ^^^23:57

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