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| Agge | DocScrutinizer05: or sixwheeledbeast any idea what it might meen when a N900 led is solid orange when conected to a charger but do not start? | 21:00 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | did you try to turn it off and on again? | 21:00 |
| Agge | Humpelstilzchen: fails at turning it on | 21:01 |
| Humpelstilzchen | aah does not start as in does not boot | 21:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Agge: | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover | 21:02 |
| infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!. | 21:02 |
| wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: i lost my phone :( | 21:03 |
| wizbit | got another one now | 21:03 |
| wizbit | all i need to know is how to setup the repos again | 21:03 |
| wizbit | i remember i had to rewind the year back, but forgot what year | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Agge: it basically means that your battery is so low on voltage that the CPU cannot boot and the bq24150 is charging the battery autonomously to pull the system out of this deadlock situation | 21:04 |
| Agge | aha thanks doc. it is the China phone it was problem with on saturday. tested with a good batery to see if that worked. both batereys works in my old N900 but none of them in the new one | 21:05 |
| Agge | charging right new from a samsung charger becouse I don't have the original charger with me | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: you need to set system date to 2011 to get rid of warnings in apt about expired nokia signature in base repos. This is not really needed to set up the repos for a working system | 21:06 |
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| wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: the only repos i have on are: Nokia Applications & Nokia Software Updates | 21:07 |
| wizbit | can i update from that once year is 2011? | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you will want maemo-extras | 21:07 |
| wizbit | ok ill stick that in | 21:07 |
| wizbit | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ | 21:07 |
| wizbit | Distribution: fremantle-1.3 <-- ? | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:08 |
| wizbit | ace | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 21:08 |
| wizbit | i will write this down this time | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, afk, bbl | 21:08 |
| wizbit | ok dude | 21:08 |
| wizbit | is it worth using CSSU-Thumb ? | 21:32 |
| kerio | probably | 21:32 |
| kerio | there's some minor speed increases | 21:32 |
| kerio | the big advantage is in the less space used in the rootfs | 21:32 |
| wizbit | right i see | 21:32 |
| wizbit | kerio: after the nokia security update, should i then add in the CSSU-Thumb repo then do a big update? | 21:37 |
| kerio | you should follow the instructions in the cssu thumb topic | 21:37 |
| wizbit | ay eok | 21:37 |
| kerio | wait, nokia security update? :O | 21:37 |
| wizbit | its the latest firmware | 21:37 |
| kerio | which one? | 21:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~tell wizbit about cssu-thumb | 21:37 |
| wizbit | i had the nokia repo left | 21:38 |
| wizbit | then set my block back to 2011 | 21:38 |
| wizbit | then it said maemo security update | 21:38 |
| wizbit | so i am installing it | 21:38 |
| wizbit | *clock | 21:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well that was interesting, 1 months rainfall in an hour and I get a call out | 21:39 |
| wizbit | Maemo 5 21.2011.38-1.205.1 | 21:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so much for this "heatwave" | 21:39 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: 21.2011.38-1 is the pr1.3.1 update | 21:43 |
| wizbit | ace | 21:43 |
| wizbit | its nearly finished installing | 21:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so basically the last Nokia release | 21:44 |
| wizbit | is that good? | 21:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you will need this or p1.3 before going CSSU | 21:44 |
| wizbit | so this update will give me PR1.3.1 so i should be good to go | 21:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 21:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | then go to CSSU page | 21:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~CSSU | 21:45 |
| infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 21:45 |
| wizbit | is CSSU-Thumb stable to use? | 21:45 |
| wizbit | i dont do anything too fancy on the phone | 21:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | er, well it's based on CSSU-Testing so you should "expect" the odd issue. The question is how confident are you with Debian, Maemo and useful bug reporting? | 21:47 |
| kerio | it's slightly edgier than cssu-testing, but not by much | 21:47 |
| wizbit | aye ok | 21:47 |
| wizbit | good to know :) | 21:47 |
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| wizbit | do you guys use CSSU thumb on your phones? | 21:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: I use CSSU-Stable for my day to day device but I have a Testing and Thumb device too :) | 21:48 |
| wizbit | is your CSSU-stable device pretty stable? | 21:49 |
| wizbit | or does it crash every now and again | 21:49 |
| Sicelo | :) | 21:49 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | CSSU-Stable is well "Stable" there's the odd minor annoying bug that needs an update | 21:51 |
| wizbit | ace | 21:52 |
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| Sicelo | tbh, i was on stable for a long time too, then eventually started using Testing. no complaints at all | 21:52 |
| wizbit | ok ill install CSSU-stable on this phone then if i get another i will install CSSU-Thumb on it | 21:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yes, I agree everything in Testing currently is solid. However, that's not the idea behind our Stable/Testing/Devel method. | 21:55 |
| wizbit | what is a clean way to update to CSSU-Stable, im now on PR1.3.1 | 21:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: That would be the best idea. You can upgrade to Testing if you wish but you can't really downgrade | 21:56 |
| wizbit | ok | 21:56 |
| wizbit | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation | 21:56 |
| wizbit | i will follow instructions there | 21:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | There is only one way to install CSSU read and follow the instructions on the wiki page ^^^ | 21:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 21:57 |
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| wizbit | first i will enable the http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ repo and install backupmenu and do a backup :D | 21:58 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~bm | 21:59 |
| infobot | hmm... backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 21:59 |
| wizbit | backupmenu is not in extras | 22:01 |
| wizbit | oh its in extra-devel | 22:01 |
| wizbit | i wonder if there is a quick way to add in all the required repos | 22:02 |
| Sicelo | ~jr-tools | 22:02 |
| infobot | methinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 22:02 |
| Sicelo | there should be a script there to do just that wizbit | 22:03 |
| wizbit | ace | 22:03 |
| wizbit | http://joerg.cloud-7.de/repositories.install | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ummm, rather http://maemo.cloud-7.de/repositories.install please | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my fault. fixed | 22:06 |
| wizbit | ace | 22:07 |
| wizbit | works :D | 22:07 |
| wizbit | i didnt backup my phone last time, this time i will :D | 22:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | It's a shame the latest bm is in extras-devel. It seems silly asking new users to install something from a -devel repo. | 22:16 |
| kerio | i wonder if backupmenu still works, considering my silly partitioning | 22:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you can install the .deb directly with microb however it defeats the object of extras/testing/devel again... :sigh: | 22:18 |
| wizbit | should i keep the Nokia Applications repo turned on? | 22:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep | 22:18 |
| wizbit | ok | 22:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: we already promoted it to testing afaik, it just depends on other stuff that as well isn't available in extras (sans -*) | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I opted for promoting the dependencies to extras as well, afaik it's just the i2c-tools, for charging | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen robbiethe1st | 22:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: nope I just checked the latest is devel | 22:38 |
| infobot | robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50.107.30.59> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 35d 16h 33m 31s ago, saying: 'I swear, microUSB connections are way too tiny'. | 22:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | a pkg can't be promoted to extras if dependencies are not there. | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, council *could* decide to override all quarantine and promotion rules and promote BM incl dependencies to extras repo | 22:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a nice topic for council meeting supposed to start in 20 min | 22:40 |
| wizbit | i am following the instructions here | 22:40 |
| wizbit | http://repository.maemo.org/community/community-fremantle.install | 22:40 |
| wizbit | i clicked on that | 22:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | are they safe on all versions of Maemo/CSSU? | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: those are which instructions? CSSU installation? | 22:41 |
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| wizbit | dam now i have this | 22:44 |
| wizbit | Unable to update libqtm-bearer Conflicing application packages | 22:44 |
| wizbit | does this mean my phone has stuff installed on it already? | 22:46 |
| wizbit | and i will need to flash it :( | 22:46 |
| wizbit | how annoying there is maemo 4 stuff on my phone | 22:50 |
| wizbit | look like ill have to flash it :( | 22:51 |
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| wizbit | figured it out | 22:59 |
| wizbit | needed to click on CSSU icon in setup :D | 22:59 |
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| wizbit | updated to CSSU-stable | 23:09 |
| wizbit | one last thing | 23:10 |
| wizbit | to install extra stuff, like open-ssh | 23:10 |
| wizbit | should i use the Community SSU devel repro or Meaemo Extras-DEVEL repro? | 23:10 |
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| wizbit | or neither of those? | 23:11 |
| wizbit | maybe just Maemo Extras ? | 23:11 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: <<Unable to update libqtm-bearer Conflicing application packages>> Did you fix this? | 23:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | neither to the above question BTW | 23:37 |
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| wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: yes fixed that | 23:39 |
| wizbit | i clicked on the SSU community icon in setup | 23:39 |
| wizbit | then it was all ok after that | 23:39 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I see. | 23:40 |
| wizbit | what repro should i use for extra stuff? | 23:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "maemo.org" aka "Extras" | 23:40 |
| wizbit | right ok ill use that :D | 23:40 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | NOT "extras-devel" or "extras-testing" | 23:41 |
| wizbit | ok | 23:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~extras | 23:41 |
| infobot | i heard extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras | 23:41 |
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| wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: if i did want to install a few newer applications like opera, should i go with maemo extra devel? | 23:43 |
| wizbit | then switch off the repo after | 23:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: that's up to you. Extras-Devel can lead to buggy software as per ~extras-devel | 23:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I found Opera 12 in Devel unstable for example | 23:45 |
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| wizbit | thats ok opera 12.1 beta was working fine last i used it | 23:45 |
| wizbit | will it cause a big repro mess though if i do that | 23:46 |
| wizbit | deb package hell? | 23:46 |
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| Sicelo | no | 23:46 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | eh? | 23:46 |
| wizbit | ace | 23:46 |
| wizbit | im thinking of rpm hell | 23:46 |
| Sicelo | but yes, it segfaults for many.. i found if you strace it, it behaves for a while :p | 23:47 |
| wizbit | Sicelo: what opera? | 23:47 |
| Sicelo | yep | 23:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 23:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have gone back to using microB TBH | 23:48 |
| wizbit | ok | 23:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ipv6 FTW ;) | 23:48 |
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| * Sicelo uses MicroB too. :) | 23:51 | |
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| chem|st | ~bm | 23:59 |
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| infobot | backupmenu is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 23:59 |
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