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hxka | libcityinfo-settings-002? Where did he even get that package? | 00:26 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# apt-cache policy libcityinfo0-0 | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | libcityinfo0-0: | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Installed: 0.5.15-1+0m5 | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Candidate: 0.5.15-1+0m5 | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Version table: | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *** 0.5.15-1+0m5 0 | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages | 00:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/libcityinfo0-0/ | 00:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for sure a brilliant idea to uninstall that | 00:44 |
hxka | $ [ "libcityinfo-settings-002" == "libcityinfo0-0" ] && echo true || echo false | 00:44 |
hxka | false | 00:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's no such stuff like libcityinfo-settings-.* on my system | 00:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and I don't even know where from you got that | 00:45 |
hxka | That's the package he tried to remove | 00:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, 2014-05-21 Wed 21:42:59] <mtnman> libcityinfo-settings-002 | 00:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nfc | 00:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | package interface doesn't know of it either | 00:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | this suggests it's not even in extras-* | 00:47 |
hxka | I only found this log: http://pastie.org/1048904 | 00:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly he installed it from a .deb downloaded from acme.org | 00:47 |
hxka | (which demonsrates utility of dist-upgrade on fremantle btw) | 00:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dist-upgrade??? OUUUUUUUUUCH! | 00:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: exactly! | 00:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, he likes apt! ;-) | 00:49 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7Myy7Hpxw | 00:51 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | seems to indicate libcityinfo-settings-002 is a "patch" to original libcityinfo *system* package that somebody uploaded to extras(-devel) in a misguided attempt to fix nokia's core maemo system. We got CSSU for that, exactly because it doen't work that way | 00:55 |
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hxka | I think it's from US variant of N900 firmware, actually | 00:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but hey, when people love apt, what can you do. Can't stop love | 00:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 002 stinks, yes | 00:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dunno what's US variant of COMBINED fiasco. Is it "02"? | 00:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | let's check in my comprehensive backup of tabletsdev | 00:58 |
hxka | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6878#c10 | 00:59 |
povbot_ | Bug 6878: UK Country variant of firmware not available for download | 00:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | UK? | 00:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Maemo 5 USA variant for Nokia N900 - | 00:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin | 00:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much | 00:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so finally we found one difference between US and global/EU variant? the libcityinfo | 01:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (whatever that actually does) | 01:01 |
* DocScrutinizer05 thinks libcityinfo is related to TZ setting based on next larger city | 01:01 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | a flawed design | 01:02 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | it's for sure easier for me to look at next watch to get the current local time, and then the system checks the offset to UTC, rather than me looking up next larger city known to libcityinfo. Particularly when I'm abroad and don't know shit about even the city I'm in | 01:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the heck, sometimes I couldn't even spell the city I'm in | 01:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but I *always* been able to find out about semi-correct local time | 01:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | in a few seconds | 01:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and then there's always GPS, if everything else fails | 01:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "next larger city known by libcityinfo" PFFFFFF! | 01:07 |
hxka | I replaced mr0 with 002 in SSU repo URL, and indeed, there is a libcityinfo-settings-002 package | 01:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 01:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | still a silly idea to uninstall it | 01:08 |
hxka | "Customisation package for Cityinfo Library", it says | 01:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not in HAM, I guess | 01:08 |
hxka | Sure | 01:09 |
hxka | Section: libs | 01:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | OOOOoooo | 01:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | OOOooo love hurts | 01:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 01:10 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, btw, ebay leaked *all* user credentials | 01:11 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I already seen my email addr (known nowhere else, basically) getting used to send SAPM *to* it (not *from* it - ... yet?) | 01:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, _potentially_ "all" | 01:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly heartbleed, I guess | 01:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so unclear what they actually leaked | 01:13 |
hxka | The whole content of that package is this gconf schema, lol: http://privatepaste.com/ee964b2d3c | 01:16 |
hxka | And the package failed to remove because postrm contains rmdir -p --ignore-fail-on-non-empty $OLD_DIR | 01:20 |
hxka | which of course busybox doesn't support | 01:20 |
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hxka | Stock busybox, that is | 01:22 |
hxka | Hilarious | 01:23 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 04:01 |
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infobot | DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 05:07 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | about time | 05:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | well | 07:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-05-22 Thu 00:38:04] <-- infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) has left this server (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). [2014-05-22 Thu 04:07:51] <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 07:15 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | the problem with infobot is: she's not rejoining/re-authenticating, actually doesn't even detect when getting disconnected | 07:17 |
Maxdamantus | Does infobot have any regex things accessible? | 07:35 |
Maxdamantus | purldoc a | 07:39 |
Maxdamantus | supercalifragilisticexpealidocious | 07:42 |
Maxdamantus | supercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh | 07:42 |
Maxdamantus | supercalifragilisticexpealidocious | 07:42 |
Maxdamantus | what is supercalifragilisticexpealidocious? | 07:42 |
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Maxdamantus | ~supercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh | 07:43 |
Maxdamantus | ~supercalifragilisticexpealidocious | 07:43 |
infobot | that's too long, Maxdamantus | 07:43 |
Maxdamantus | :\ | 07:43 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo is meh | 07:44 |
infobot | Maxdamantus: okay | 07:44 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/e./aaa/ | 07:44 |
infobot | that doesn't contain 'e.', Maxdamantus | 07:44 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/eh/aaa/ | 07:44 |
infobot | OK, Maxdamantus | 07:44 |
Maxdamantus | ~purldoc a | 07:45 |
Maxdamantus | ~showdb | 07:45 |
Maxdamantus | ~whatdbs | 07:47 |
infobot | dbs is probably Disappearing Browser Syndrome. Commonly found in most Netscape products. | 07:47 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | umm | 07:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: what you're after? | 07:55 |
Maxdamantus | Just seeing if it has any places for users to write regex. | 07:55 |
Maxdamantus | in which case you could probably freeze the bot indefinitely. | 07:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nope, it doesn't use regex | 07:55 |
Maxdamantus | Mm .. I think it might be for that reason. | 07:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/ is a fake | 07:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/ake/AKE/ | 07:56 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is a fAKE | 07:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/a/A/ | 07:56 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is A fake | 07:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/a/A/g | 07:57 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is A fAke | 07:57 |
Maxdamantus | eg, /(a?){50}a{50}/ will take Perl thousands of years to match "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" | 07:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | 07:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/x/asdfghjkl#######1234566#######/g | 07:57 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl######... | 07:57 |
Maxdamantus | It's something*1.93902^(x - 22.3872) | 07:58 |
* Maxdamantus calculated it. | 07:58 | |
Maxdamantus | (where `something` is some amount of time, dependent on the machine) and `x` is the number of as. | 07:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 07:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ibot doesn't do any patterns | 07:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | simple strcmp() | 07:59 |
Maxdamantus | For the machine running candide, that was 1.02821 s. | 07:59 |
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Maxdamantus | Oh, that's only 2.84 years. | 08:01 |
Maxdamantus | (for 50) | 08:01 |
Maxdamantus | 60 is 2136 years. | 08:01 |
* Maxdamantus wonders if the Perl developers are ever going to fix it. | 08:02 | |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo | 08:14 |
infobot | i guess testingonetwo is maaa | 08:14 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:14 |
infobot | Maxdamantus: OK | 08:14 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:14 |
Maxdamantus | Hm. Throttle. | 08:14 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:14 |
infobot | OK, Maxdamantus | 08:14 |
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Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:14 |
infobot | Maxdamantus: OK | 08:14 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:15 |
Maxdamantus | Maybe you have to say something inbetween. | 08:15 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:15 |
infobot | Maxdamantus: OK | 08:15 |
Maxdamantus | . | 08:15 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:15 |
Maxdamantus | So it does enforce a maximum length. | 08:16 |
Maxdamantus | ~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ | 08:16 |
infobot | Maxdamantus: that's too long | 08:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~query | 08:17 |
infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) | 08:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~testingonetwo | 08:18 |
infobot | i guess testingonetwo is maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 08:19 |
Maxdamantus | Apparently the string should be 82 GiB | 08:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~testingonetwo =~ s/m/X/ | 08:20 |
infobot | OK, DocScrutinizer05 | 08:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~testingonetwo | 08:20 |
infobot | hmm... testingonetwo is Xaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 08:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget testingonetwo | 08:21 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot testingonetwo | 08:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status | 08:22 |
infobot | Since Thu May 22 02:05:48 2014, there have been 2 modifications, 6 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands. I have been awake for 3h 16m 48s this session, and currently reference 119268 factoids. I'm using about 21052 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 19.72/0.61 child 0/0 | 08:22 |
kerio | Maxdamantus: i thought that regular expressions with backreferences just... can't be efficient? | 08:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: btw your string isn't 82GiB - you forgit /g | 08:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | forgot* | 08:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but I'd rather not see you testing it again, bot already told you that string length even for s/// result is limited | 08:25 |
Maxdamantus | Oh, there's a g. | 08:25 |
Maxdamantus | kerio: it's not a backreference. | 08:26 |
Maxdamantus | kerio: and that regex can be efficient. | 08:26 |
kerio | *that* regex, sure | 08:27 |
kerio | but in general? | 08:27 |
Maxdamantus | The hardest bit would be accomodating arbitrary repetition subscripts. | 08:27 |
Maxdamantus | but if you just expanded it (which works fine with 50), you could keep a cache at each node. | 08:27 |
Maxdamantus | if you rewrite that regex without the repetition, perl still struggles with it. | 08:27 |
kerio | regular expressions without backreferences are obviously equivalent to nondeterministic finite automata which are kinda obviously equivalent to deterministic finite automata | 08:27 |
Maxdamantus | my formula was actually for the expanded form. | 08:27 |
Maxdamantus | /(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)aaaaa/ etc | 08:28 |
Maxdamantus | in general, yes, you can handle that efficiently. | 08:28 |
Maxdamantus | in linear time, that is. | 08:28 |
Maxdamantus | .. and input*regexlen space. | 08:29 |
Maxdamantus | (without using DFAs/NFAs) | 08:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~since ibot doesn't use regex, you can hardly do any of that ;-) | 08:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a, b, {, x | 08:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/b/B/ | 08:33 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: a, B, {, x | 08:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/{/}/ | 08:34 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: a, b, }, x | 08:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/,/;/ | 08:34 |
Ashley` | huh | 08:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "special" char | 08:34 |
Ashley` | s/h/\;/ | 08:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | forget it, it doesn't do regex | 08:35 |
Ashley` | s/h/m/;s/u/e/;s/h/ow/ | 08:36 |
Ashley` | what does that ; do? | 08:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nothing | 08:36 |
Ashley` | oh. | 08:36 |
Ashley` | i thought that it is special because of some special meaning :P | 08:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s!o!O! | 08:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/!/¡/g | 08:38 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s¡o¡O¡ | 08:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's also only /g and noting else (allowed) | 08:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/o/x/; | 08:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/o/x/ | 08:40 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s/x/x/; | 08:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/o/Y/ | 08:40 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: s/Y/x/; | 08:40 |
Maxdamantus | echo 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g' | 08:43 |
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Maxdamantus | echo 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g; s/\. /.\n/g' | 08:46 |
Maxdamantus | More readable. | 08:46 |
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Maxdamantus | /home/max=foo | 08:49 |
Maxdamantus | s/=/\// | 08:50 |
Maxdamantus | /home/max=foo | 08:50 |
Maxdamantus | s/=/// | 08:50 |
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Maxdamantus | s/=// | 08:50 |
infobot | Maxdamantus meant: s//// | 08:50 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | \ is no special char, "," is a special char, and ";" is | 08:53 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | and all except "s/$1/$2/" and "s/$1/$2/g" is a normal psot of user that gets buffered, not a command | 08:54 |
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Maxdamantus | kats | 08:55 |
Maxdamantus | s/k/c/ | 08:55 |
infobot | Maxdamantus meant: cats | 08:55 |
Maxdamantus | s/cat/dog/ | 08:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no special chars in $1 or $2 | 08:55 |
Maxdamantus | kats | 08:55 |
Maxdamantus | s/k/c/ | 08:55 |
infobot | Maxdamantus meant: cats | 08:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | buffer doesn't get altered on s/ command | 08:55 |
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Maxdamantus | s/s/x/ | 08:56 |
infobot | Maxdamantus meant: katx | 08:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | 08:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/x/ooooooooooooooooY/g | 08:57 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: ooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooY... | 08:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | * and . and dunno what are all no special chars | 08:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it does strcmp() | 08:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | has nfc about regex | 08:58 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | actually I'm surprised it does substitutions in factoids at all | 09:02 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | http://svn.code.sf.net/p/infobot/code/branches/poco-irc/files/infobot.help | 09:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help cookie | 09:11 |
infobot | I can feed your appetite with random factoids. | 09:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help crypt | 09:12 |
infobot | It's good that you thought about encryption. I can do it for you. | 09:12 |
infobot | Usage: crypt <salt> <string> | 09:12 |
infobot | Example: crypt 69 changeme | 09:12 |
infobot | Example: crypt $1$abcde changeme | 09:12 |
kerio | fun fact: nethack.alt.org and most other nethack/crawl public servers do (or used to) crypt(password, password) to store the password of user accounts | 09:21 |
kerio | so the first two characters of the password end up as the salt | 09:21 |
kerio | and characters from the ninth onwards are just discarded | 09:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help listvalues | 09:25 |
infobot | Desc: Search the factoid database by value (description) | 09:25 |
infobot | Usage: listvalues <regex> | 09:25 |
infobot | Example: listvalues infobot | 09:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues mae.o | 09:26 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'mae.o' by value returned no results. | 09:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues maemo | 09:26 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'maemo' by value (17 of 211): #maemo bnf ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; #maemo dmo ;; #maemo fix-sb ;; #maemo mo/* ;; #maemo uuencode ;; #maemo vkbd-portrait ;; 0xffff ;; aegis-no-thanks ;; boot-sd ;; categories ;; extras-uploading ;; flashplayer ;; googlesyncevolution ;; hildon-extras ;; hostmode ;; jrbme. | 09:26 |
Ashley` | ~0xffff | 09:26 |
infobot | i heard 0xffff is https://gitorious.org/0xffff/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 | 09:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | which is kinda funny | 09:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~0xffff + 1 | 09:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~0xAA + 1 | 09:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *shrug* | 09:28 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | she's not really strong in math | 09:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~40! | 09:29 |
infobot | rumour has it, 40! is 815,915,283,247,897,734,345,611,269,596,115,894,272,000,000,000 | 09:29 |
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kerio | ~41! | 09:29 |
infobot | hmm... 41! is 33,452,526,613,163,807,108,170,062,053,440,751,665,152,000,000,000 | 09:29 |
kerio | brilliant | 09:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo 41! | 09:30 |
infobot | 41! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:28:06 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by kerio, 30s ago. | 09:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo 40! | 09:30 |
infobot | 40! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:27:57 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 1m 21s ago. | 09:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 09:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~40! + 1 | 09:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much | 09:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~2**32 | 09:31 |
infobot | 4294967296 | 09:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~2**32 + 1 | 09:31 |
infobot | 4294967297 | 09:31 |
jormungandr | ~aegis-no-thanks | 09:34 |
infobot | from memory, aegis-no-thanks is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281 | 09:34 |
Ashley` | ~42 | 09:34 |
infobot | from memory, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything | 09:34 |
Ashley` | ~listvalues answer | 09:35 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'answer' by value (19 of 179): 404 ;; 42 ;; answers ;; ask ;; asking ;; based on debian ;; batteryfaq ;; can i ask a question ;; debian intro ;; error message ;; fat42 ;; jargon bit ;; jargon rot13 ;; jargon to a first approximation ;; leeching ;; nomsg ;; oldtest anathoth ;; oldtest anem ;; oldtest taanach. | 09:35 |
Ashley` | ~listvalues life | 09:35 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'life' by value (19 of 225): actually a7r ;; aup ;; brad ;; bunnie ;; caffine ;; cd-r ;; cmd: blame (.*?) for (.*?) ;; cyber9397 ;; elcheapacabra ;; emulate goozbach ;; emulate marvin ;; gomez ;; hal9000 ;; helpvampire ;; hlds ;; jargon black art2 ;; jargon life ;; jargon random ;; jargon religious issues3. | 09:35 |
Ashley` | ~blame x for y | 09:36 |
* infobot blames anYc_ and perhaps x for y and all the evil in the world | 09:36 | |
Ashley` | lol | 09:36 |
Ashley` | ~blame a for b | 09:36 |
* infobot blames lbt and perhaps a for b and all the evil in the world | 09:36 | |
Ashley` | oh | 09:36 |
Ashley` | pinging random nicks, yay | 09:36 |
Maxdamantus | ~listvalues (a?){32}a{32} | 09:39 |
infobot | Factoid search of '(a?){32}a{32}' by value returned no results. | 09:39 |
Maxdamantus | ~listvalues a?{32}a{32} | 09:39 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'a?{32}a{32}' by value returned no results. | 09:40 |
Ashley` | when I'm writing regexps I feel like a magician | 09:46 |
Ashley` | especially when they work as expected :P | 09:46 |
kerio | they're a shitty way to exert your will to a computer | 09:51 |
Ashley` | but they look cool | 09:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prefer Maxdamantus stopped trying to make bot go south | 09:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and again: it doesn't do pattern matching aka regex | 09:55 |
Ashley` | im not talking about bot :| | 09:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but I do | 09:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | don't you think 'a?{32}a{32}' looks like a regex? | 09:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues answ?er | 09:58 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'answ?er' by value returned no results. | 09:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues answ\?er | 09:58 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'answ\?er' by value returned no results. | 09:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues answer{1} | 09:58 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'answer{1}' by value returned no results. | 09:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | believe me, it doesn't do regex | 09:59 |
kerio | i believe | 09:59 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~2*pi | 10:04 |
infobot | 6.2831853 | 10:04 |
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Maxdamantus | ~\sum_{i=0}^\infty 1/i! | 10:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help math | 11:46 |
infobot | Desc: math expresions can be evaluated. This uses Perl syntax. | 11:46 |
infobot | Example: 1+1 | 11:46 |
infobot | + - add | 11:46 |
infobot | - - subtract | 11:46 |
infobot | * - multiply | 11:46 |
infobot | / - division | 11:46 |
infobot | ** - to the power | 11:46 |
infobot | pi - pi | 11:46 |
infobot | & - and | 11:46 |
infobot | | = or | 11:46 |
infobot | ^ - xor | 11:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather be interested in hex numbers | 11:48 |
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jaska | ~0xa | 11:58 |
jaska | :( | 11:58 |
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Psi_ | anyone still buying n900 ? | 12:53 |
Psi_ | probably getting new phone soon so n900 wont be needed any more | 12:54 |
Psi_ | im in NZ | 12:54 |
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sombragris | hi there | 18:18 |
sombragris | :) | 18:18 |
sombragris | got a problem with my N900 | 18:19 |
zGrr | Only one problem? | 18:21 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~ask | 18:21 |
infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 18:22 |
sixwheeledbeast | wnat's the problem | 18:22 |
sixwheeledbeast | what's even | 18:22 |
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sombragris | sixwheeledbeast: sorry, customer just called. | 18:38 |
sombragris | this is the issue | 18:38 |
sixwheeledbeast | np | 18:38 |
sombragris | I installed a new wifi router at the office | 18:38 |
sombragris | I configured it as WPA2 | 18:38 |
sombragris | now, the n900 sees it as if it was WEP | 18:39 |
sombragris | and it cannot authenticate into the network | 18:39 |
sombragris | that wasn't a problem with the former router | 18:39 |
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sombragris_ | hi.. did you read all of my problem? | 18:43 |
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freemangordon | sombragris: try to manually set-up the connection | 18:45 |
sombragris | freemangordon: how is that? | 18:46 |
sombragris | do you mean manually configuring the router or manually configuring the N900? | 18:46 |
freemangordon | n900 | 18:47 |
freemangordon | in settings->internet connections | 18:47 |
sombragris | ok | 18:47 |
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freemangordon | connections->new | 18:47 |
sombragris | no good | 18:50 |
sombragris | it still sees my WiFi as WEP | 18:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then tell it that it's WPA2 | 18:51 |
sombragris | cannot | 18:51 |
sombragris | how can I do that? | 18:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 18:51 |
freemangordon | yes, you can | 18:51 |
freemangordon | in internet connections, click on "connections" | 18:51 |
freemangordon | select yours and press "edit" | 18:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then DELETE the connection | 18:51 |
freemangordon | no need | 18:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then create NEW | 18:52 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: it can be edited | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: better safe than sorry | 18:52 |
freemangordon | edit goes through the same wizard as "new" | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | odds are it scans for new AP and finds the one it hears is already configured | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and you never know oif all the wpa-supplicant resp ICD2 stuff is correct | 18:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I already witnessed on my own device that I had to delete and create new the connection, to recover from a AP config change | 18:54 |
freemangordon | anyway, we both agree that s/he has to set it up by hand :) | 18:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | depends, maybe after deleting old connection it "just works" | 18:54 |
freemangordon | yeah | 18:55 |
sombragris | no good | 18:55 |
sombragris | I can create a new connection from the wizard | 18:55 |
sombragris | I can even give it my WPA passphrase | 18:55 |
freemangordon | and? | 18:56 |
sombragris | but then when I select the connection it still asks me for a WEP key | 18:56 |
freemangordon | did you delete the old one? | 18:56 |
sombragris | I did | 18:56 |
freemangordon | weird | 18:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, afk | 18:57 |
freemangordon | sombragris: seems something is not setup correctly on you router | 18:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nope, pebcak | 18:58 |
freemangordon | :) | 18:58 |
sombragris | freemangordon: maybe | 18:58 |
sombragris | but what are the settings I should check on it? | 18:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP | 18:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | disable any "simple authentication" or "one-button connect", as well as all "mixed mode" | 19:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | on AP | 19:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon will be able to help | 19:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I'm busy now | 19:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 19:01 |
freemangordon | sombragris: what is your router? | 19:01 |
sombragris | It is a TP-LINK | 19:03 |
freemangordon | ok, what model | 19:03 |
freemangordon | I have tplink too | 19:04 |
freemangordon | so I guess I might be able to help | 19:04 |
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sombragris | TD-W8961ND | 19:04 |
Humpelstilzchen | tplink is the openwrt brand ;) | 19:04 |
freemangordon | is it? | 19:04 |
freemangordon | never knew that | 19:04 |
sombragris | me neither | 19:05 |
sombragris | :) | 19:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | iwlist wlan0 scan | 19:05 |
sombragris | DocScrutinizer05: iwlist is not found on my n900 | 19:06 |
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Humpelstilzchen | try as root | 19:06 |
sombragris | (I entered the command as root) | 19:06 |
sombragris | I AM root | 19:06 |
sombragris | (sudo gainroot) | 19:06 |
freemangordon | sombragris: what is your wlan authentcation type, in router settings? | 19:06 |
Humpelstilzchen | sombragris: do you have wireless-tools installed? | 19:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/101ad706f7 | 19:06 |
sombragris | freemangordon: wpa-psk/wpa2-psk | 19:07 |
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sombragris | Humpelstilzchen: no, I don't have it installed | 19:08 |
sombragris | and I cannot install anything now since I don't have network access | 19:08 |
sombragris | (on the n900) | 19:08 |
freemangordon | sombragris: could you open internet settings, on your n900, edit the connection | 19:09 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install iw | 19:10 |
freemangordon | there is advanced button, click on it | 19:10 |
sombragris | DocScrutinizer05: I don't have network access on the n900 | 19:10 |
freemangordon | select "other" | 19:10 |
freemangordon | and click on "wpa2-only mode:" checkbox | 19:10 |
freemangordon | then save | 19:11 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't sombragris first *delete* the old connection? | 19:13 |
sombragris | freemangordon: still it shows me my network as WEP | 19:13 |
sombragris | DocScrutinizer05: I deleted the old connection | 19:13 |
freemangordon | then it is wep, for xome reason | 19:13 |
freemangordon | *some | 19:13 |
freemangordon | did you reboot the router after changint auth type to wpa-psk? | 19:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | fine, then create a new connection, search for devices, check what it shows for your AP (WEP or WPA2) | 19:13 |
freemangordon | changing even | 19:14 |
sombragris | I did | 19:14 |
sombragris | now I'm rebooting the n900 (again...) | 19:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | create new connection *without* searching for available WLAN connections | 19:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | type in your exact SSID (name of router network you gave it), untag "network is hidden", network mode "infrastructure", security method: "WPA2-preshared" | 19:17 |
sombragris | DocScrutinizer05: I did exactly that | 19:17 |
sombragris | no result | 19:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | fix your router | 19:18 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 19:18 |
sombragris | DocScrutinizer05: I guess that's the case | 19:18 |
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trx | sombragris do a hard reset | 19:18 |
trx | (on the router) | 19:18 |
sombragris | trx what do you mean as a hard reset? | 19:19 |
freemangordon | there should be a reset button on the router | 19:19 |
trx | i had things like that happen on my TP-LINK routers/AP's | 19:19 |
trx | there is a button that will restore factory settings | 19:19 |
sombragris | trx: do you mean booting with factory default settings | 19:19 |
sombragris | > | 19:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 19:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and redo the config | 19:19 |
trx | on the back, you need to hold it for 30-60 seconds | 19:19 |
freemangordon | you should press-n-hold it for a couple of seconds, read the user manual where it is located and for how long to hold it pressed | 19:19 |
sombragris | oh my. | 19:20 |
sombragris | well | 19:20 |
sombragris | that's not going to be simple. I have to dig where is the ISP authentication info. | 19:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | get advice here for an URL "how to config (.*)wrt" | 19:20 |
trx | what type of internet do you have? | 19:20 |
freemangordon | adsl :) | 19:20 |
trx | check PVC4 in that case | 19:21 |
freemangordon | this is an adsl router | 19:21 |
trx | it is probably there | 19:21 |
trx | if not, go through 1-8 and find it :) | 19:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sombragris: do a config backup before doing hard/factory reset | 19:22 |
trx | that too | 19:22 |
sombragris | IDK how to do that backup | 19:22 |
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freemangordon | http://www.tp-link.com/resources/document/TD-W8961ND_V3_User_Guide_1910010893.pdf | 19:23 |
freemangordon | shit, how to tell FF to open a pdf with an external program?!? | 19:25 |
javispedro | I recommend a hammar | 19:25 |
javispedro | alternatively, preferences -> applications sometimes works | 19:25 |
* freemangordon is going to find one | 19:25 | |
javispedro | but only when Firefox happens to like your current desktop | 19:26 |
freemangordon | nah, I had to click on "download" | 19:26 |
freemangordon | thean it asked me what to do | 19:26 |
freemangordon | how smart | 19:27 |
xes | hey! W8961! I have the same AP, it works great with the N900! | 19:27 |
freemangordon | sombragris: seems today is your lucky day :) | 19:27 |
freemangordon | xes: hi! I promised you to check something, but forgot what exactly, was it hostmode oopses? | 19:28 |
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xes | freemangordon: yep. But i promised you a few test cases that i had no time to produce | 19:29 |
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freemangordon | oh, well :) | 19:29 |
xes | freemangordon: i saw you and pali are patching modest again... Do you think there is still something that could be done to allow single mail opening while updating inbox? (now it opens a blank window waiting almost forever) | 19:31 |
freemangordon | xes: hmm, wasn't that fixed already? | 19:32 |
xes | freemangordon: no? One hour ago it wasn't. (at least in my device and for me) | 19:33 |
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freemangordon | what type of mail is that? pop3? | 19:34 |
xes | imap | 19:34 |
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freemangordon | but isn't imap contents stored online? | 19:35 |
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xes | sure. But also an old email opened while updating inbox takes ages to open | 19:36 |
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freemangordon | xes: try to enable offline mode, but keep in mind it fills up /home folder | 19:37 |
xes | freemangordon: enabling offline mode it stops retrieving emails | 19:38 |
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freemangordon | hmm? | 19:39 |
sixwheeledbeast | Sorry I was away, from reading backscroll the router is not setup correctly | 19:39 |
freemangordon | xes: how's that? | 19:39 |
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xes | freemangordon: let me check again | 19:41 |
freemangordon | xes: menu->edit accounts->"$YOUR_IMAP_ACCOUNT"->"enable offline IMAP..." | 19:41 |
eduardo_ | ok. gotta go now. Will see how it goes. Stil no luck | 19:41 |
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xes | freemangordon: i tried it a few time ago, i can't remember if "offline mode" or "update all folders" freezed mail retrieving | 19:42 |
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xes | freemangordon: it was "update all folders" the one that freezed mail updates and notification. With offline mode it still works but mail opening speed while updating it still a pain | 19:52 |
xes | *is | 19:52 |
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sixwheeledbeast | ~phonecontrol | 20:37 |
infobot | i guess phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 20:37 |
sixwheeledbeast | I guess there's a way to query the current profile | 20:38 |
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xes | sixwheeledbeast: dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.profiled /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.get_profile | 20:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | xes: yes I found it thanks :) | 20:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | Just working on a, ' if [ profile == "silent"] then; set_general ' script | 20:52 |
Nokiabot | Ssssh | 20:53 |
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merlin1991 | xes: iirc Pali added a fix for the update all folders to use the glib main queue instdead of an all blocking loop | 21:10 |
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vdv | i'm trying to build qt app for maemo in qtcreator and getting following: http://pastebin.com/fv1hX4Ku | 21:28 |
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vdv | can anybody help to find out what's wrong with my setup? | 21:29 |
freemangordon | xes: yeah, merlin1991 is right, could you try modest from cssu-devel? | 21:29 |
freemangordon | vdv: CONFIG += dbus? | 21:30 |
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vdv | freemangordon, i have it already | 21:31 |
vdv | thought something is wrong with setup in general | 21:31 |
xes | freemangordon: i'm using modest 3.90.7-13.1 ... it should be the latest from cssu-devel | 21:31 |
freemangordon | vdv: yeah, seems like :( | 21:32 |
freemangordon | xes: yep | 21:32 |
vdv | wait, do i need CONFIG += qdbus or CONFIG += dbus ? | 21:33 |
freemangordon | xes: dunno then, naybe ask pali for fix, he is working on modest lately | 21:33 |
vdv | also, is following include correct? #include <QtDBus> | 21:33 |
freemangordon | vdv: iirc it is += dbus | 21:33 |
freemangordon | that include sounds correct to me | 21:33 |
freemangordon | hmm, could it be QDBus? | 21:34 |
freemangordon | include that is | 21:34 |
freemangordon | vdv: yep, it is #include <QDBus> | 21:35 |
freemangordon | vdv: what class you use? | 21:35 |
freemangordon | *do you | 21:36 |
vdv | QDBusConnection | 21:36 |
freemangordon | well, then you should #include <QDBusConnection> ;) | 21:36 |
vdv | projects/goldendict-build-maemo-Qt_4_7_0__fremantle-pr13__Release/../goldendict-maemo/main.cc:10: Error:QDBus: No such file or directory | 21:36 |
freemangordon | weird, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.7/qdbus.html | 21:37 |
freemangordon | but anyway, you should #include <QDBusConnection> | 21:37 |
sixwheeledbeast | vdv: http://developer.nokia.com/community/wiki/Qt_application_for_Maemo_with_DBus_support | 21:38 |
sixwheeledbeast | += qdbus | 21:38 |
freemangordon | ooh | 21:38 |
vdv | the project which i try to build now was compiled on my old system normally | 21:38 |
vdv | i didn't change sources | 21:38 |
freemangordon | my fault, sorry | 21:38 |
vdv | but i moved folder with qtsdk to new system | 21:39 |
freemangordon | hmm, you should check paths then | 21:39 |
freemangordon | simply grep for you old path | 21:39 |
vdv | paths are unchanged | 21:39 |
freemangordon | I see | 21:39 |
vdv | /opt/QtSDK | 21:40 |
freemangordon | NFC then | 21:40 |
freemangordon | you can try to reinstall :) | 21:40 |
vdv | didn't help either ( | 21:41 |
freemangordon | 32 or 64 bit? | 21:41 |
vdv | 32 | 21:41 |
freemangordon | and your OS is 32 bit? | 21:41 |
vdv | also, yes | 21:41 |
vdv | in the article which sixwheeledbeast suggested it's CONFIG += qdbus | 21:42 |
vdv | interesting | 21:42 |
freemangordon | yep | 21:42 |
freemangordon | thus "my fault" ^^^ | 21:43 |
vdv | maybe wrong compiler is used, i don't know | 21:43 |
freemangordon | could you try "mad g++ -v" | 21:44 |
freemangordon | though it doesn't make mush of a sense | 21:44 |
freemangordon | *much | 21:44 |
freemangordon | vdv: what is on /opt/QtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/sysroots/fremantle-arm-sysroot-20.2010.36-2-slim/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusabstractadaptor.h:57 ? | 21:45 |
vdv | class QDBUS_EXPORT QDBusAbstractAdaptor: public QObject | 21:46 |
freemangordon | no idea, sorry | 21:47 |
freemangordon | actually... | 21:47 |
freemangordon | did you run qmake again? | 21:48 |
vdv | yes | 21:48 |
vdv | and qmake from toolchain for maemo is used | 21:48 |
* freemangordon is out of ideas | 21:48 | |
vdv | does it matter which make runs makefile? | 21:48 |
freemangordon | you may try to purge the whole qtsdk directory and make a clean install | 21:49 |
vdv | make from /usr/bin is used | 21:49 |
freemangordon | i think it is only one make | 21:49 |
freemangordon | hmm | 21:49 |
freemangordon | why is that? | 21:49 |
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vdv | i don't know how to influence that | 21:50 |
vdv | and whether qtsdk has it's own make | 21:50 |
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freemangordon | 21:52:04: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -w | 21:52 |
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freemangordon | so it is the same here | 21:52 |
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vdv | ok, thanks | 21:54 |
vdv | mad g++ -v -> 4.2.1 | 21:55 |
vdv | system g++ -v -> 4.7.1 | 21:55 |
freemangordon | normal | 21:55 |
freemangordon | IMO | 21:55 |
freemangordon | qhat qtsdk version? | 21:55 |
freemangordon | *what | 21:55 |
vdv | 1.2.1 | 21:56 |
freemangordon | same here | 21:56 |
freemangordon | but I am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit | 21:56 |
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wizbit | is there a way to speed up the application installer? | 22:58 |
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sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: you mean HAM aka application manager? | 23:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~HAM | 23:18 |
infobot | i heard ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 23:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyHAM | 23:18 |
infobot | it has been said that speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 23:18 |
wizbit | ace | 23:19 |
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