IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2014-05-22

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hxkalibcityinfo-settings-002? Where did he even get that package?00:26
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DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# apt-cache policy libcityinfo0-000:41
DocScrutinizer05  Installed: 0.5.15-1+0m500:41
DocScrutinizer05  Candidate: 0.5.15-1+0m500:41
DocScrutinizer05  Version table:00:41
DocScrutinizer05 *** 0.5.15-1+0m5 000:41
DocScrutinizer05        500 ./ Packages00:41
DocScrutinizer05for sure a brilliant idea to uninstall that00:44
hxka$ [ "libcityinfo-settings-002" == "libcityinfo0-0" ] && echo true || echo false00:44
DocScrutinizer05there's no such stuff like libcityinfo-settings-.* on my system00:45
DocScrutinizer05and I don't even know where from you got that00:45
hxkaThat's the package he tried to remove00:46
DocScrutinizer05oooh, 2014-05-21 Wed 21:42:59] <mtnman>  libcityinfo-settings-00200:46
DocScrutinizer05package interface doesn't know of it either00:47
DocScrutinizer05this suggests it's not even in extras-*00:47
hxkaI only found this log:
DocScrutinizer05prolly he installed it from a .deb downloaded from acme.org00:47
hxka(which demonsrates utility of dist-upgrade on fremantle btw)00:48
DocScrutinizer05dist-upgrade??? OUUUUUUUUUCH!00:48
DocScrutinizer05hxka: exactly!00:49
DocScrutinizer05well, he likes apt! ;-)00:49
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DocScrutinizer05seems to indicate libcityinfo-settings-002 is a "patch" to original libcityinfo *system* package that somebody uploaded to extras(-devel) in a misguided attempt to fix nokia's core maemo system. We got CSSU for that, exactly because it doen't work that way00:55
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hxkaI think it's from US variant of N900 firmware, actually00:56
DocScrutinizer05but hey, when people love apt, what can you do. Can't stop love00:56
DocScrutinizer05002 stinks, yes00:56
DocScrutinizer05dunno what's US variant of COMBINED fiasco. Is it "02"?00:57
DocScrutinizer05let's check in my comprehensive backup of tabletsdev00:58
povbot_Bug 6878: UK Country variant of firmware not available for download00:59
DocScrutinizer05Maemo 5 USA variant for Nokia N900 -00:59
DocScrutinizer05thought as much00:59
DocScrutinizer05so finally we found one difference between US and global/EU variant? the libcityinfo01:00
DocScrutinizer05(whatever that actually does)01:01
* DocScrutinizer05 thinks libcityinfo is related to TZ setting based on next larger city01:01
DocScrutinizer05a flawed design01:02
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DocScrutinizer05it's for sure easier for me to look at next watch to get the current local time, and then the system checks the offset to UTC, rather than me looking up next larger city known to libcityinfo. Particularly when I'm abroad and don't know shit about even the city I'm in01:03
DocScrutinizer05the heck, sometimes I couldn't even spell the city I'm in01:04
DocScrutinizer05but I *always* been able to find out about semi-correct local time01:05
DocScrutinizer05in a few seconds01:05
DocScrutinizer05and then there's always GPS, if everything else fails01:06
DocScrutinizer05"next larger city known by libcityinfo" PFFFFFF!01:07
hxkaI replaced mr0 with 002 in SSU repo URL, and indeed, there is a libcityinfo-settings-002 package01:07
DocScrutinizer05still a silly idea to uninstall it01:08
hxka"Customisation package for Cityinfo Library", it says01:08
DocScrutinizer05not in HAM, I guess01:08
hxkaSection: libs01:09
DocScrutinizer05OOOooo love hurts01:09
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DocScrutinizer05oooh, btw, ebay leaked *all* user credentials01:11
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DocScrutinizer05I already seen my email addr (known nowhere else, basically) getting used to send SAPM *to* it (not *from* it - ... yet?)01:12
DocScrutinizer05well, _potentially_ "all"01:12
DocScrutinizer05prolly heartbleed, I guess01:13
DocScrutinizer05so unclear what they actually leaked01:13
hxkaThe whole content of that package is this gconf schema, lol:
hxkaAnd the package failed to remove because postrm contains rmdir -p --ignore-fail-on-non-empty $OLD_DIR01:20
hxkawhich of course busybox doesn't support01:20
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hxkaStock busybox, that is01:22
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DocScrutinizer05about time05:08
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DocScrutinizer05[2014-05-22 Thu 00:38:04] <-- infobot ( has left this server (Ping timeout: 265 seconds).    [2014-05-22 Thu 04:07:51] <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!07:15
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DocScrutinizer05the problem with infobot is: she's not rejoining/re-authenticating, actually doesn't even detect when getting disconnected07:17
MaxdamantusDoes infobot have any regex things accessible?07:35
Maxdamantuspurldoc a07:39
Maxdamantussupercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh07:42
Maxdamantuswhat is supercalifragilisticexpealidocious?07:42
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Maxdamantus~supercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh07:43
infobotthat's too long, Maxdamantus07:43
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo is meh07:44
infobotMaxdamantus: okay07:44
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/e./aaa/07:44
infobotthat doesn't contain 'e.', Maxdamantus07:44
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/eh/aaa/07:44
infobotOK, Maxdamantus07:44
Maxdamantus~purldoc a07:45
infobotdbs is probably Disappearing Browser Syndrome.  Commonly found in most Netscape products.07:47
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DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: what you're after?07:55
MaxdamantusJust seeing if it has any places for users to write regex.07:55
Maxdamantusin which case you could probably freeze the bot indefinitely.07:55
DocScrutinizer05nope, it doesn't use regex07:55
MaxdamantusMm .. I think it might be for that reason.07:55
DocScrutinizer05s/ is a fake07:56
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is a fAKE07:56
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is A fake07:56
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s/ is A fAke07:57
Maxdamantuseg, /(a?){50}a{50}/ will take Perl thousands of years to match "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"07:57
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl#######1234566#######asdfghjkl######...07:57
MaxdamantusIt's something*1.93902^(x - 22.3872)07:58
* Maxdamantus calculated it.07:58
Maxdamantus(where `something` is some amount of time, dependent on the machine) and `x` is the number of as.07:59
DocScrutinizer05ibot doesn't do any patterns07:59
DocScrutinizer05simple strcmp()07:59
MaxdamantusFor the machine running candide, that was 1.02821 s.07:59
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MaxdamantusOh, that's only 2.84 years.08:01
Maxdamantus(for 50)08:01
Maxdamantus60 is 2136 years.08:01
* Maxdamantus wonders if the Perl developers are ever going to fix it.08:02
infoboti guess testingonetwo is maaa08:14
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:14
infobotMaxdamantus: OK08:14
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:14
MaxdamantusHm. Throttle.08:14
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:14
infobotOK, Maxdamantus08:14
* Maxdamantus whistles.08:14
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:14
infobotMaxdamantus: OK08:14
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:15
MaxdamantusMaybe you have to say something inbetween.08:15
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:15
infobotMaxdamantus: OK08:15
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:15
MaxdamantusSo it does enforce a maximum length.08:16
Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/08:16
infobotMaxdamantus: that's too long08:16
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)08:17
infoboti guess testingonetwo is maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:19
MaxdamantusApparently the string should be 82 GiB08:19
DocScrutinizer05~testingonetwo =~ s/m/X/08:20
infobotOK, DocScrutinizer0508:20
infobothmm... testingonetwo is Xaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:20
DocScrutinizer05~forget testingonetwo08:21
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot testingonetwo08:21
infobotSince Thu May 22 02:05:48 2014, there have been 2 modifications, 6 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands.  I have been awake for 3h 16m 48s this session, and currently reference 119268 factoids.  I'm using about 21052 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 19.72/0.61 child 0/008:22
kerioMaxdamantus: i thought that regular expressions with backreferences just... can't be efficient?08:23
DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: btw your string isn't 82GiB - you forgit /g08:24
DocScrutinizer05but I'd rather not see you testing it again, bot already told you that string length even for s/// result is limited08:25
MaxdamantusOh, there's a g.08:25
Maxdamantuskerio: it's not a backreference.08:26
Maxdamantuskerio: and that regex can be efficient.08:26
kerio*that* regex, sure08:27
keriobut in general?08:27
MaxdamantusThe hardest bit would be accomodating arbitrary repetition subscripts.08:27
Maxdamantusbut if you just expanded it (which works fine with 50), you could keep a cache at each node.08:27
Maxdamantusif you rewrite that regex without the repetition, perl still struggles with it.08:27
kerioregular expressions without backreferences are obviously equivalent to nondeterministic finite automata which are kinda obviously equivalent to deterministic finite automata08:27
Maxdamantusmy formula was actually for the expanded form.08:27
Maxdamantus/(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)aaaaa/ etc08:28
Maxdamantusin general, yes, you can handle that efficiently.08:28
Maxdamantusin linear time, that is.08:28
Maxdamantus.. and input*regexlen space.08:29
Maxdamantus(without using DFAs/NFAs)08:29
DocScrutinizer05~since ibot doesn't use regex, you can hardly do any of that ;-)08:32
DocScrutinizer05a, b, {, x08:33
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: a, B, {, x08:33
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: a, b, }, x08:34
DocScrutinizer05"special" char08:34
DocScrutinizer05forget it, it doesn't do regex08:35
Ashley`what does that ; do?08:36
Ashley`i thought that it is special because of some special meaning :P08:37
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s¡o¡O¡08:38
DocScrutinizer05there's also only /g and noting else (allowed)08:39
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s/x/x/;08:40
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: s/Y/x/;08:40
Maxdamantusecho 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g'08:43
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Maxdamantusecho 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g; s/\. /.\n/g'08:46
MaxdamantusMore readable.08:46
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infobotMaxdamantus meant: s////08:50
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DocScrutinizer05\ is no special char, "," is a special char, and ";" is08:53
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DocScrutinizer05and all except "s/$1/$2/" and "s/$1/$2/g" is a normal psot of user that gets buffered, not a command08:54
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infobotMaxdamantus meant: cats08:55
DocScrutinizer05no special chars in $1 or $208:55
infobotMaxdamantus meant: cats08:55
DocScrutinizer05buffer doesn't get altered on s/ command08:55
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infobotMaxdamantus meant: katx08:56
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: ooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooYooooooooooooooooY...08:57
DocScrutinizer05* and . and dunno what are all no special chars08:58
DocScrutinizer05it does strcmp()08:58
DocScrutinizer05has nfc about regex08:58
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DocScrutinizer05actually I'm surprised it does substitutions in factoids at all09:02
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DocScrutinizer05~+help cookie09:11
infobotI can feed your appetite with random factoids.09:11
DocScrutinizer05~+help crypt09:12
infobotIt's good that you thought about encryption. I can do it for you.09:12
infobot  Usage: crypt <salt> <string>09:12
infobotExample: crypt 69 changeme09:12
infobotExample: crypt $1$abcde changeme09:12
keriofun fact: and most other nethack/crawl public servers do (or used to) crypt(password, password) to store the password of user accounts09:21
kerioso the first two characters of the password end up as the salt09:21
kerioand characters from the ninth onwards are just discarded09:21
DocScrutinizer05~+help listvalues09:25
infobot   Desc: Search the factoid database by value (description)09:25
infobot  Usage: listvalues <regex>09:25
infobotExample: listvalues infobot09:25
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues mae.o09:26
infobotFactoid search of 'mae.o' by value returned no results.09:26
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues maemo09:26
infobotFactoid search of 'maemo' by value (17 of 211): #maemo bnf ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; #maemo dmo ;; #maemo fix-sb ;; #maemo mo/* ;; #maemo uuencode ;; #maemo vkbd-portrait ;; 0xffff ;; aegis-no-thanks ;; boot-sd ;; categories ;; extras-uploading ;; flashplayer ;; googlesyncevolution ;; hildon-extras ;; hostmode ;; jrbme.09:26
infoboti heard 0xffff is, or
DocScrutinizer05which is kinda funny09:27
DocScrutinizer05~0xffff + 109:27
DocScrutinizer05~0xAA + 109:27
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DocScrutinizer05she's not really strong in math09:28
infobotrumour has it, 40! is 815,915,283,247,897,734,345,611,269,596,115,894,272,000,000,00009:29
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infobothmm... 41! is 33,452,526,613,163,807,108,170,062,053,440,751,665,152,000,000,00009:29
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo 41!09:30
infobot41! -- created by localhost <> at Tue Oct 30 14:28:06 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by kerio, 30s ago.09:30
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo 40!09:30
infobot40! -- created by localhost <> at Tue Oct 30 14:27:57 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 1m 21s ago.09:30
DocScrutinizer05~40! + 109:30
DocScrutinizer05thought as much09:31
DocScrutinizer05~2**32 + 109:31
infobotfrom memory, aegis-no-thanks is, or, or
infobotfrom memory, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also,_the_universe,_and_everything09:34
Ashley`~listvalues answer09:35
infobotFactoid search of 'answer' by value (19 of 179): 404 ;; 42 ;; answers ;; ask ;; asking ;; based on debian ;; batteryfaq ;; can i ask a question ;; debian intro ;; error message ;; fat42 ;; jargon bit ;; jargon rot13 ;; jargon to a first approximation ;; leeching ;; nomsg ;; oldtest anathoth ;; oldtest anem ;; oldtest taanach.09:35
Ashley`~listvalues life09:35
infobotFactoid search of 'life' by value (19 of 225): actually a7r ;; aup ;; brad ;; bunnie ;; caffine ;; cd-r ;; cmd: blame (.*?) for (.*?) ;; cyber9397 ;; elcheapacabra ;; emulate goozbach ;; emulate marvin ;; gomez ;; hal9000 ;; helpvampire ;; hlds ;; jargon black art2 ;; jargon life ;; jargon random ;; jargon religious issues3.09:35
Ashley`~blame x for y09:36
* infobot blames anYc_ and perhaps x for y and all the evil in the world09:36
Ashley`~blame a for b09:36
* infobot blames lbt and perhaps a for b and all the evil in the world09:36
Ashley`pinging random nicks, yay09:36
Maxdamantus~listvalues (a?){32}a{32}09:39
infobotFactoid search of '(a?){32}a{32}' by value returned no results.09:39
Maxdamantus~listvalues a?{32}a{32}09:39
infobotFactoid search of 'a?{32}a{32}' by value returned no results.09:40
Ashley`when I'm writing regexps I feel like a magician09:46
Ashley`especially when they work as expected :P09:46
keriothey're a shitty way to exert your will to a computer09:51
Ashley`but they look cool09:51
DocScrutinizer05I'd prefer Maxdamantus stopped trying to make bot go south09:53
DocScrutinizer05and again: it doesn't do pattern matching aka regex09:55
Ashley`im not talking about bot :|09:55
DocScrutinizer05but I do09:55
DocScrutinizer05don't you think 'a?{32}a{32}' looks like a regex?09:56
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answ?er09:58
infobotFactoid search of 'answ?er' by value returned no results.09:58
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answ\?er09:58
infobotFactoid search of 'answ\?er' by value returned no results.09:58
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answer{1}09:58
infobotFactoid search of 'answer{1}' by value returned no results.09:58
DocScrutinizer05believe me, it doesn't do regex09:59
kerioi believe09:59
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Maxdamantus~\sum_{i=0}^\infty 1/i!10:42
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DocScrutinizer05~+help math11:46
infobot   Desc: math expresions can be evaluated. This uses Perl syntax.11:46
infobotExample: 1+111:46
infobot+ - add11:46
infobot- - subtract11:46
infobot* - multiply11:46
infobot/ - division11:46
infobot** - to the power11:46
infobotpi - pi11:46
infobot& - and11:46
infobot| = or11:46
infobot^ - xor11:46
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DocScrutinizer05I'd rather be interested in hex numbers11:48
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Psi_anyone still buying n900 ?12:53
Psi_probably getting new phone soon so n900 wont be needed any more12:54
Psi_im in NZ12:54
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* Maxdamantus is in NZ too.13:42
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sombragrishi there18:18
sombragrisgot a problem with my N90018:19
zGrrOnly one problem?18:21
infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.18:22
sixwheeledbeastwnat's the problem18:22
sixwheeledbeastwhat's even18:22
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sombragrissixwheeledbeast: sorry, customer just called.18:38
sombragristhis is the issue18:38
sombragrisI installed a new wifi router at the office18:38
sombragrisI configured it as WPA218:38
sombragrisnow, the n900 sees it as if it was WEP18:39
sombragrisand it cannot authenticate into the network18:39
sombragristhat wasn't a problem with the former router18:39
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sombragris_hi.. did you read all of my problem?18:43
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freemangordonsombragris: try to manually set-up the connection18:45
sombragrisfreemangordon: how is that?18:46
sombragrisdo you mean manually configuring the router or manually configuring the N900?18:46
freemangordonin settings->internet connections18:47
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sombragrisno good18:50
sombragrisit still sees my WiFi as WEP18:50
DocScrutinizer05then tell it that it's WPA218:51
sombragrishow can I do that?18:51
freemangordonyes, you can18:51
freemangordonin internet connections, click on "connections"18:51
freemangordonselect yours and press "edit"18:51
DocScrutinizer05then DELETE the connection18:51
freemangordonno need18:51
DocScrutinizer05then create NEW18:52
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it can be edited18:52
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: better safe than sorry18:52
freemangordonedit goes through the same wizard as "new"18:52
DocScrutinizer05odds are it scans for new AP and finds the one it hears is already configured18:52
DocScrutinizer05and you never know oif all the wpa-supplicant resp ICD2 stuff is correct18:53
DocScrutinizer05I already witnessed on my own device that I had to delete and create new the connection, to recover from a AP config change18:54
freemangordonanyway, we both agree that s/he has to set it up by hand :)18:54
DocScrutinizer05depends, maybe after deleting old connection it "just works"18:54
sombragrisno good18:55
sombragrisI can create a new connection from the wizard18:55
sombragrisI can even give it my WPA passphrase18:55
sombragrisbut then when I select the connection it still asks me for a WEP key18:56
freemangordondid you delete the old one?18:56
sombragrisI did18:56
DocScrutinizer05sorry, afk18:57
freemangordonsombragris: seems something is not setup correctly on you router18:57
DocScrutinizer05nope, pebcak18:58
sombragrisfreemangordon: maybe18:58
sombragrisbut what are the settings I should check on it?18:58
DocScrutinizer05gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP18:59
DocScrutinizer05disable any "simple authentication" or "one-button connect", as well as all "mixed mode"19:00
DocScrutinizer05on AP19:00
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon will be able to help19:01
DocScrutinizer05sorry I'm busy now19:01
freemangordonsombragris: what is your router?19:01
sombragrisIt is a TP-LINK19:03
freemangordonok, what model19:03
freemangordonI have tplink too19:04
freemangordonso I guess I might be able to help19:04
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Humpelstilzchentplink is the openwrt brand ;)19:04
freemangordonis it?19:04
freemangordonnever knew that19:04
sombragrisme neither19:05
DocScrutinizer05iwlist wlan0 scan19:05
sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: iwlist is not found on my n90019:06
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Humpelstilzchentry as root19:06
sombragris(I entered the command as root)19:06
sombragrisI AM root19:06
sombragris(sudo gainroot)19:06
freemangordonsombragris: what is your wlan authentcation type, in router settings?19:06
Humpelstilzchensombragris: do you have wireless-tools installed?19:06
sombragrisfreemangordon: wpa-psk/wpa2-psk19:07
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sombragrisHumpelstilzchen: no, I don't have it installed19:08
sombragrisand I cannot install anything now since I don't have network access19:08
sombragris(on the n900)19:08
freemangordonsombragris: could you open internet settings, on your n900, edit the connection19:09
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DocScrutinizer05apt-get install iw19:10
freemangordonthere is advanced button, click on it19:10
sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I don't have network access on the n90019:10
freemangordonselect "other"19:10
freemangordonand click on "wpa2-only mode:" checkbox19:10
freemangordonthen save19:11
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DocScrutinizer05shouldn't sombragris first *delete* the old connection?19:13
sombragrisfreemangordon: still it shows me my network as WEP19:13
sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I deleted the old connection19:13
freemangordonthen it is wep, for xome reason19:13
freemangordondid you reboot the router after changint auth type to wpa-psk?19:13
DocScrutinizer05fine, then create a new connection, search for devices, check what it shows for your AP (WEP or WPA2)19:13
freemangordonchanging even19:14
sombragrisI did19:14
sombragrisnow I'm rebooting the n900 (again...)19:15
DocScrutinizer05create new connection *without* searching for available WLAN connections19:15
DocScrutinizer05type in your exact SSID (name of router network you gave it), untag "network is hidden", network mode "infrastructure", security method: "WPA2-preshared"19:17
sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I did exactly that19:17
sombragrisno result19:17
DocScrutinizer05fix your router19:18
sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I guess that's the case19:18
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trxsombragris do a hard reset19:18
trx(on the router)19:18
sombragristrx what do you mean as a hard reset?19:19
freemangordonthere should be a reset button on the router19:19
trxi had things like that happen on my TP-LINK routers/AP's19:19
trxthere is a button that will restore factory settings19:19
sombragristrx: do you mean booting with factory default settings19:19
DocScrutinizer05and redo the config19:19
trxon the back, you need to hold it for 30-60 seconds19:19
freemangordonyou should press-n-hold it for a couple of seconds, read the user manual where it is located and for how long to hold it pressed19:19
sombragrisoh my.19:20
sombragristhat's not going to be simple. I have to dig where is the ISP authentication info.19:20
DocScrutinizer05get advice here for an URL "how to config (.*)wrt"19:20
trxwhat type of internet do you have?19:20
freemangordonadsl :)19:20
trxcheck PVC4 in that case19:21
freemangordonthis is an adsl router19:21
trxit is probably there19:21
trxif not, go through 1-8 and find it :)19:22
DocScrutinizer05sombragris: do a config backup before doing hard/factory reset19:22
trxthat too19:22
sombragrisIDK how to do that backup19:22
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freemangordonshit, how to tell FF to open a pdf with an external program?!?19:25
javispedroI recommend a hammar19:25
javispedroalternatively, preferences -> applications sometimes works19:25
* freemangordon is going to find one19:25
javispedrobut only when Firefox happens to like your current desktop19:26
freemangordonnah, I had to click on "download"19:26
freemangordonthean it asked me what to do19:26
freemangordonhow smart19:27
xeshey! W8961! I have the same AP, it works great with the N900!19:27
freemangordonsombragris: seems today is your lucky day :)19:27
freemangordonxes: hi! I promised you to check something, but forgot what exactly, was it hostmode oopses?19:28
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xesfreemangordon: yep. But i promised you a few test cases that i had no time to produce19:29
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freemangordonoh, well :)19:29
xesfreemangordon: i saw you and pali are patching modest again... Do you think there is still something that could be done to allow single mail opening while updating inbox? (now it opens a blank window waiting almost forever)19:31
freemangordonxes: hmm, wasn't that fixed already?19:32
xesfreemangordon: no? One hour ago it wasn't. (at least in my device and for me)19:33
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freemangordonwhat type of mail is that? pop3?19:34
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freemangordonbut isn't imap contents stored online?19:35
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xessure.  But also an old email opened while updating inbox takes ages to open19:36
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freemangordonxes: try to enable offline mode, but keep in mind it fills up /home folder19:37
xesfreemangordon: enabling offline mode it stops retrieving emails19:38
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sixwheeledbeastSorry I was away, from reading backscroll the router is not setup correctly19:39
freemangordonxes: how's that?19:39
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xesfreemangordon: let me check again19:41
freemangordonxes: menu->edit accounts->"$YOUR_IMAP_ACCOUNT"->"enable offline IMAP..."19:41
eduardo_ok. gotta go now. Will see  how it goes. Stil no luck19:41
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xesfreemangordon: i tried it a few time ago, i can't remember if "offline mode" or "update all folders" freezed mail retrieving19:42
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xesfreemangordon: it was "update all folders" the one that freezed mail updates and notification. With offline mode it still works but mail opening speed while updating it still a pain19:52
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infoboti guess phonecontrol is
sixwheeledbeastI guess there's a way to query the current profile20:38
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xessixwheeledbeast: dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply /com/nokia/profiled
sixwheeledbeastxes: yes I found it thanks :)20:48
sixwheeledbeastJust working on a,  ' if [ profile == "silent"] then; set_general  ' script20:52
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merlin1991xes: iirc Pali added a fix for the update all folders to use the glib main queue instdead of an all blocking loop21:10
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vdv i'm trying to build qt app for maemo in qtcreator and getting following:
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vdvcan anybody help to find out what's wrong with my setup?21:29
freemangordonxes: yeah, merlin1991 is right, could you try modest from cssu-devel?21:29
freemangordonvdv: CONFIG += dbus?21:30
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vdvfreemangordon, i have it already21:31
vdvthought something is wrong with setup in general21:31
xesfreemangordon: i'm using modest  3.90.7-13.1 ... it should be the latest from cssu-devel21:31
freemangordonvdv: yeah, seems like :(21:32
freemangordonxes: yep21:32
vdvwait, do i need CONFIG += qdbus or CONFIG += dbus ?21:33
freemangordonxes: dunno then, naybe ask pali for fix, he is working on modest lately21:33
vdvalso, is following include correct? #include <QtDBus>21:33
freemangordonvdv: iirc it is += dbus21:33
freemangordonthat include sounds correct to me21:33
freemangordonhmm, could it be QDBus?21:34
freemangordoninclude that is21:34
freemangordonvdv: yep, it is  #include <QDBus>21:35
freemangordonvdv: what class you use?21:35
freemangordon*do you21:36
freemangordonwell, then you should #include <QDBusConnection> ;)21:36
vdvprojects/goldendict-build-maemo-Qt_4_7_0__fremantle-pr13__Release/../goldendict-maemo/ Error:QDBus: No such file or directory21:36
freemangordonbut anyway, you should #include <QDBusConnection>21:37
sixwheeledbeast+= qdbus21:38
vdvthe project which i try to build now was compiled on my old system normally21:38
vdvi didn't change sources21:38
freemangordonmy fault, sorry21:38
vdvbut i moved folder with qtsdk to new system21:39
freemangordonhmm, you should check paths then21:39
freemangordonsimply grep for you old path21:39
vdvpaths are unchanged21:39
freemangordonI see21:39
freemangordonNFC then21:40
freemangordonyou can try to reinstall :)21:40
vdvdidn't help either (21:41
freemangordon32 or 64 bit?21:41
freemangordonand your OS is 32 bit?21:41
vdvalso, yes21:41
vdvin the article which sixwheeledbeast suggested it's CONFIG += qdbus21:42
freemangordonthus "my fault" ^^^21:43
vdvmaybe wrong compiler is used, i don't know21:43
freemangordoncould you try "mad g++ -v"21:44
freemangordonthough it doesn't make mush of a sense21:44
freemangordonvdv: what is on /opt/QtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/sysroots/fremantle-arm-sysroot-20.2010.36-2-slim/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusabstractadaptor.h:57 ?21:45
vdvclass QDBUS_EXPORT QDBusAbstractAdaptor: public QObject21:46
freemangordonno idea, sorry21:47
freemangordondid you run qmake again?21:48
vdvand qmake from toolchain for maemo is used21:48
* freemangordon is out of ideas21:48
vdvdoes it matter which make runs makefile?21:48
freemangordonyou may try to purge the whole qtsdk directory and make a clean install21:49
vdvmake from /usr/bin is used21:49
freemangordoni think it is only one make21:49
freemangordonwhy is that?21:49
* freemangordon is checking his qtcreator21:49
vdvi don't know how to influence that21:50
vdvand whether qtsdk has it's own make21:50
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freemangordon21:52:04: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -w21:52
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freemangordonso it is the same here21:52
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vdvok, thanks21:54
vdvmad g++ -v -> 4.2.121:55
vdvsystem g++ -v -> 4.7.121:55
freemangordonqhat qtsdk version?21:55
freemangordonsame here21:56
freemangordonbut I am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit21:56
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wizbitis there a way to speed up the application installer?22:58
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sixwheeledbeastwizbit: you mean HAM aka application manager?23:18
infoboti heard ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham23:18
infobotit has been said that speedyham is
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