NIN101 | openssl version -a gives the path | 00:02 |
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NIN101 | which on maemo gives /usr/lib/ssl for me, which has symlinks back to /etc/ssl/ | 00:02 |
bencoh | does it work then ? | 00:03 |
NIN101 | no, it can't verify any website. | 00:03 |
bencoh | havent been able to make openssl -verify work on debian | 00:03 |
NIN101 | for example, "openssl s_client -connect encrypted.google.com:443" returns "verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate". | 00:05 |
bencoh | same on debian | 00:06 |
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NIN101 | hmm, indeed. odd. | 00:12 |
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grummund | Hi all, i don't know where else to ask this... | 01:28 |
grummund | my N900 is giving 'double beeps' periodically | 01:29 |
grummund | battery is showing 95% | 01:29 |
grummund | what's it trying to tell me? | 01:30 |
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Maxdamantus | grummund: try looking at dmesg | 02:12 |
* Maxdamantus would imagine it might mean a missed call though. | 02:13 | |
Maxdamantus | Dunno. Haven't had many phone calls since getting mine. | 02:13 |
grummund | it's not missed call | 02:14 |
grummund | also, Profile is on silent | 02:15 |
grummund | it's the kind of alert you'd exepect from a device that was dying, e.g. lo batt alert. | 02:17 |
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grummund | doh! it wasn't the N900 it was the dect phone on the desk next to it </slap forehead> | 03:00 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | double-beeps, sounds like inbound SMS. But those should stop after 2 double beeps | 04:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dang, how often I said "I should read backscroll bottom up instead of top down" | 04:21 |
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Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: there's no winning; it gets confusing going bottom up often :/\ | 04:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 04:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should do post-it notes for replies I find I wanna send, while reading top down til bottom | 04:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | does wtf emoticons? | 04:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf :/\ | 04:43 |
infobot | usage: wtf <foo>. | 04:43 |
Luke-Jr | that was a typo for :/ | 04:44 |
Luke-Jr | ☺ | 04:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh*, dunno if I ever felt such a severe burnout like I currently do | 04:45 |
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Luke-Jr | ? | 04:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | seriously considering to sell my complete IT and get a pony | 04:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | or a bat, or a cat | 04:46 |
Luke-Jr | I consider that probably once or twice a year :x | 04:46 |
Luke-Jr | except I'm usually thinking more like cow and plants, to be a farmer | 04:47 |
Luke-Jr | :p | 04:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 04:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or simply become a monk | 04:47 |
Luke-Jr | lol | 04:48 |
Luke-Jr | I don't have that kind of self-discipline XD | 04:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though, even those use IT nowadays, for managing their finances | 04:48 |
Luke-Jr | well, at the current rate, the internet is just going to die soon enough anyway | 04:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if those momks who never speak are allowed to IRC ;-P | 04:49 |
Luke-Jr | the other day over 1/3 of the trans-atlantic backbone traffic was a DDoS attack against a gratis service I help run | 04:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I might consider helping a bit on that dieing | 04:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I had an idea about an NZP virus today | 04:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | NTP | 04:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | oooh! | 04:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 1/3? | 04:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dang! | 04:50 |
Luke-Jr | yeah, very annoying and hard to mitigate | 04:51 |
Luke-Jr | although we managed to survive it since one of the other guys has upstream access to most of the US backbone routers | 04:51 |
Luke-Jr | basically uploading a whitelist of known user IPs to them all | 04:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&time=16104&view=map | 04:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yesterday? | 04:51 |
Luke-Jr | it's been ongoing for like 1-2 months now; I don't recall which day reached 1/3 | 04:52 |
Luke-Jr | probably more like a week ago | 04:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | which of the streams in that map is it? | 04:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | UDP; misuse? | 04:53 |
Luke-Jr | pretty sure it's all TCP at this point | 04:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dang, that URL is messed up | 04:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digitalattackmap.com/ | 04:57 |
* DocScrutinizer05 hates dynamic "CNAMES" | 04:58 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | or forwards or whatever that is | 04:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you can't create bookmarks that make sense | 04:58 |
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SAiF1 | ~ping | 09:08 |
infobot | ~pong | 09:09 |
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Apic | A wonderful splendid good Monday (or Pricke-Prickle) Morning (UGT)! | 10:22 |
Apic | Ok, hope i can restore teh[sic] rootfs today! | 10:23 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm | 13:05 |
infobot | well, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 13:05 |
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Raimu | Darn, n900's sharing Facebook integration died now. | 13:38 |
Raimu | API changes, no doubt | 13:39 |
Raimu | Lasted long though! | 13:39 |
Raimu | It was one of the few FB-related things on the n900 that worked great. | 13:39 |
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silviof | Raimu: add this point to the bugtracker | 14:06 |
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Apic | [2/5.0.5]{1}apic@ammonit:~/a/NOOK> flasher-3.5 --fiasco=RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -F --flash-only=rootfs | 14:20 |
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Apic | [...] | 14:20 |
Apic | Specify only one FIASCO image. | 14:20 |
Apic | HELP! | 14:20 |
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Raimu | ~bugtracker | 14:24 |
infobot | asterisk bugs is probably at the asterisk bug tracking system is at http://bugs.digium.com . If you have a bug you may submit it there. READ http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html BEFORE you submit a bug! Also see http://snipurl.com/3n9v | 14:24 |
Raimu | @_@ | 14:25 |
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Web-aptosid876_ | so with the N810, which I'm thinking of getting. While I like maemo, I'd like to have a free software only system on it. This looks like a proper install http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/n810-openwrt.html ie not a chroot install :) . Are there any proprietary drivers & "firmware" of doom? | 14:50 |
Web-aptosid876_ | ... and a more recent system on it too :) | 14:50 |
Web-aptosid876_ | I expect I can configure,tweak it to have a touch usable human interface. lxlauncher, some sort of panel, gxmenu?, know of any full screen application switchers? | 14:56 |
Web-aptosid876_ | netsurf for a lightweight webbrowser | 14:57 |
Luke-Jr | Web-aptosid876_: N810 is beyond dead. And never ran with just free software :/ | 15:00 |
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merlin1991 | Apic: get rid of the --fiasco and put the bin path after -F | 15:17 |
Apic | Thank You very much! | 15:17 |
Apic | Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 | 15:18 |
Apic | Sending and flashing rootfs image (185728 kB)... | 15:18 |
Apic | 56% (105600 of 185728 kB, 14850 kB/s) | 15:18 |
Apic | Finishing flashing... done | 15:20 |
Apic | \o/ | 15:20 |
Maxdamantus | fwiw, there's also a 2011 image. | 15:22 |
Maxdamantus | RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin | 15:23 |
Apic | Aw, ok | 15:23 |
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Web-aptosid876_ | dam not even just usb host and audio? | 15:38 |
Web-aptosid876_ | I guess wifi and bluetooth and gps need non-free yuck? | 15:38 |
Web-aptosid876_ | Luke-Jr | 15:38 |
Luke-Jr | I don't think N810 even had any USB port.. | 15:44 |
jaska | it has a otg-capable usb | 15:47 |
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Apic | fsck! | 15:52 |
Apic | Now the Backup App cannot find my Backups on eMMC! | 15:53 |
Apic | Help! | 15:53 |
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Apic | Please someone help me! | 16:22 |
Apic | DocScrutinizer05, where art thou? ;-) | 16:23 |
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Sicelo | Apic: what is the issue today?\ | 17:33 |
Apic | Restoring the Backup does not work anymore. | 17:34 |
Apic | I reflashed rootfs | 17:34 |
Apic | And i still see the Folder backups | 17:34 |
Apic | On eMMC | 17:34 |
Apic | But the App does not see it. ;-( | 17:34 |
Sicelo | you backed up with what? backupmenu, or the stock application? | 17:35 |
Apic | The App | 17:35 |
Apic | iirc | 17:35 |
Sicelo | so, are you able to open the backups 'manually'? | 17:36 |
Sicelo | meaning, open with with unzip? | 17:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm | 17:38 |
infobot | i guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 17:38 |
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Apic | DocScrutinizer05: So i just need to install the App and Things will turn out to magically work? | 17:57 |
Apic | Would rule./ | 17:57 |
Apic | -/ | 17:57 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's no fairy dust | 17:58 |
Apic | =) | 17:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but you can magically restore your complete system when you messed up | 17:59 |
Apic | Ok | 17:59 |
Apic | That's enough for me | 17:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | given you made a backup before, with bm | 17:59 |
Apic | I should have | 18:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nobody understands why bm isn't a stock nokia app that came with the very first prototypes already | 18:00 |
Apic | I can remember You or someone similar suggesting BM in my Past. | 18:00 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | only thing it doesn't restore is kernel | 18:01 |
Apic | Ok | 18:01 |
Apic | Good to know. | 18:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but then, you shouldn't usually mess up your kernel usually | 18:01 |
Apic | Yeah, i should not… i just remember installing iptables via apt-get | 18:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | obviously it doesn't backup/restore MyDocs | 18:02 |
Apic | So i would be able to tether | 18:02 |
Apic | But then suddenly it fscked up completely. | 18:02 |
Sicelo | so when you said "The App" you meant Backupmenu? | 18:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bm | 18:02 |
Apic | Yes, my MyDocs seems still 100% intact. | 18:02 |
Apic | Sicelo: Ack | 18:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and 3 minutes later you're back | 18:02 |
Sicelo | hmm | 18:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: no | 18:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd doubt it been BM | 18:03 |
Sicelo | i doubt too. then again, seems i get confused sometimes by Apic ;) | 18:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | BM is not exactly "an app" | 18:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | we all do | 18:04 |
Apic | ;-) | 18:04 |
Apic | Apple poisoned my Language. | 18:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bm has no icon to start it | 18:05 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | so in my book that's not an app | 18:05 |
Apic | Yeah! | 18:05 |
Apic | Just installed rootsh with evil Program Manager | 18:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and bm can do a lot more of nice things | 18:05 |
Apic | E: Couldn't finde package backupmenu | 18:05 |
Apic | What's it called? | 18:06 |
Apic | backup-menu? | 18:06 |
Apic | Nope. | 18:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ | 18:07 |
Apic | I'll apt-get lynx | 18:07 |
Apic | And i need the Signingkeys again… | 18:08 |
Apic | Complains about unsigned Pkgs | 18:08 |
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Apic | Got it | 18:12 |
Apic | dpkg -i … | 18:12 |
Apic | Many Depw | 18:12 |
Apic | Deps even | 18:12 |
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Apic | | grep " Package" | 18:13 |
Apic | 2>&1 | 18:14 |
Apic | apt-get install bootmenu tar-gnu i2c-tools mtd-utils libacl1 | 18:14 |
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Apic | Ok | 18:18 |
Apic | After adding additional Deps from extras-devel, it is now installing | 18:18 |
Apic | How to launch it? | 18:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | boot with slide open | 18:18 |
Apic | MicroB fails connecting to robbiethe1st.afraid.org | 18:19 |
Apic | Is that an April Fool? | 18:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no, that's a sad flaw | 18:19 |
Apic | Ok, i'll boot | 18:19 |
Apic | Now it loaded BOOT MENU and i selected Backup Menu | 18:20 |
Apic | r) sounds good | 18:20 |
Apic | q), t), or p) now? | 18:20 |
Apic | RootFS & OptFS is recommended… | 18:21 |
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Apic | I'll risk t | 18:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | BM also charges battery ;-) | 18:22 |
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Apic | \o/ | 18:22 |
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Apic | mydocs/systemBackups: No such file or directory | 18:22 |
Apic | Do i need to reboot into Maemo and rename my backups/ to systemBackups? | 18:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | obviously, or did you do any before? | 18:23 |
Apic | I guess i did not actually do one B-( | 18:23 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | and if you did, I wonder *how* | 18:23 |
Apic | Yeah | 18:23 |
Apic | False Memory Syndrome | 18:23 |
Apic | So i need to get the old App to work ;-() | 18:23 |
Apic | I'll check whether i am able to unzip | 18:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | renaming won't help | 18:24 |
Apic | Ok | 18:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bm can only use bm generated backups | 18:24 |
Apic | ic | 18:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise, why wouldn't it use other backups for restore ootb? | 18:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | actually, what for would we need it then, at all | 18:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a bm backup is a completely different thing than an osso-backup | 18:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (the "app") | 18:26 |
Apic | Ok ok ok | 18:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | when osso-backup takes a list of your contacts in your rollodex to create new files from the public phonebook when needed, then BM does a xerox copy of your whole rollodex | 18:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/list of your/list of only the full *names* of your/ | 18:28 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: when osso-backup takes a list of only the full *names* of your contacts in your rollodex to create new files from the public phonebook when needed, then BM does a xerox copy of your whole rollodex | 18:28 |
Apic | Installing unzip | 18:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck are you trying to do? | 18:29 |
Apic | Yes, i can unzip | 18:29 |
Apic | Testing whether my Backup is still intact | 18:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 18:29 |
Apic | Trying the App again | 18:29 |
Apic | Nope | 18:29 |
Apic | Still lists none | 18:30 |
Apic | Any Idea? | 18:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | how could it not be intact? | 18:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what f'ing "App"?? | 18:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not like we had more than 3 of them on maemo | 18:30 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | honestly | 18:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~xy | 18:31 |
infobot | hmm... xy is The XY problem: You want to do X, but don't know how. You think you can solve it using Y, but don't know how to do that, either. You ask about Y, which is a strange thing to want to do. Just ask about X. | 18:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you seem to have an xyz problem ;-) | 18:31 |
Apic | *sigh* | 18:32 |
Apic | I made a Backup with the old Maemo Backup Application that backups Application List, Contacts, etc… | 18:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 18:32 |
Apic | So the new Application is not backwards compatible… | 18:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 18:33 |
Apic | … and i need to install the old one over it again… | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 18:33 |
Apic | It says (Keine Backups verfügbar) | 18:33 |
Apic | (No Backups available) translated | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, osoo-backup isn't exactly made for that | 18:33 |
Apic | For what? | 18:33 |
Apic | For restoring Backups> | 18:33 |
Apic | s/>/?/ | 18:33 |
infobot | Apic meant: For restoring Backups? | 18:33 |
Apic | I want Backups to work 2-way ;-) | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for rolling back to a previous version of "an App" | 18:34 |
Apic | Just Backup without Restore is kinda pointless… | 18:34 |
Apic | Darn | 18:34 |
Apic | So what shall i do? | 18:34 |
Apic | apt-get purge | 18:34 |
Apic | ? | 18:34 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno, since you don't tell me what's your problem, we have a zillion "apps" on maemo | 18:34 |
Apic | I have a couple of Backups from 2013 and 2014 | 18:35 |
Apic | And i want to restore the newest one | 18:35 |
Apic | Because i just reflashed my rootfs | 18:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup, as 'explained' above, only takes a list of apps to install for restoring | 18:36 |
Apic | I do not understand that. | 18:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ok, maybe you understand it that way: osso-backup basically creates a list of "apt-get install <app1>" for <app1> = all the apps on your system | 18:37 |
Apic | Aha | 18:37 |
Apic | Ok | 18:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | while backupmenu creates a disk image | 18:37 |
Apic | Then i just need to restore the Contacts | 18:37 |
Apic | Then when i frobbed around enough, i'll create a Disk Image | 18:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup also saves a few config file and other app specific data, **when the app told it so** | 18:38 |
Apic | +will have | 18:38 |
Apic | Ok | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. contacts | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or highscores of your acme-game | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or whatever | 18:39 |
Apic | And what do i use to restore the Phone Contact List? | 18:39 |
Apic | From the .zip the Backup Program once created? | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup does NOT handle versions of apps to restore, it simply always installs the newest version available | 18:39 |
Apic | Ok | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup restore function has a nice dialog where you cen select what to restore | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | can* | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | restoring contacts-list should be a straight forward simple task | 18:41 |
Apic | Yes | 18:41 |
Apic | But the Dialog does not present me with _anything_. | 18:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 18:41 |
Apic | It says (No Backups available) (In German) | 18:42 |
Apic | Even though there _is_ the Folder backups on my MyDocs | 18:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then probably no backups are available on the location the osso-backup expects them to be | 18:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (it looks on MyDocs and on uSD) | 18:43 |
Apic | How do i find out where it expects them to be? | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | mompls | 18:43 |
Apic | Maybe i'll just copy backups over to the microSDHC | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | when doing backups you can select if osso-backup stores them to MyDocs or to uSD | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | usually uSD is the smarter choice | 18:44 |
Apic | Ok | 18:45 |
Apic | It found them on microSDHC now | 18:45 |
Apic | Not the silentest Idea why it oversaw them on MyDocs/ | 18:45 |
Apic | Thank You for Your Time and Dedication. | 18:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | one location is /hone/user/MyDocs/backups/${name-you-gave-to-backup}/*.zip | 18:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there are (applications|backup|bookmarks|comm_and_cal|other|settings).zip | 18:47 |
Apic | Yes | 18:47 |
Apic | They lay right there | 18:47 |
Apic | (And still do) | 18:47 |
Apic | Exactly. | 18:48 |
Apic | Ok, now it starts Program Manager to refetch the Apps | 18:48 |
Apic | (Packages ;-)) | 18:48 |
Apic | \o/ | 18:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | applications.zip is just a list of apps to re-install with App Manager | 18:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | contacts.zip I'm sure you already guessed what it contains | 18:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | vcard format, zipped | 18:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err, sorry | 18:50 |
Apic | Yeah | 18:50 |
Apic | Thanks | 18:50 |
Apic | Not SQLite Stuff? | 18:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nope, the contacts get exported to vcard, then zipped | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 18:52 |
Apic | Good | 18:52 |
Apic | So normally they are SQLite, but the Export Process saves them to VCard | 18:52 |
Apic | I'll go buy an Icecream Waffle now while my Phone installs the Stuff | 18:53 |
Apic | cul8r | 18:53 |
Apic | And thanks again | 18:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess contacts.zip is zipped into maybe comm_and_cal.zip | 18:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (I'm missing unzip on my IroN900) | 18:55 |
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* DocScrutinizer05 should create a chroot env where all those bloated catalogs like extras-devel are enabled in HAM | 18:56 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | but probably that would scare the shit out of apt when there are two unlinked unsynced databases on same system | 18:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 18:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I could hack a lil fancy to swap all the catalog/repo definition files between 2 versions, from cmdline | 18:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so no more need to start up HAM and edit them from there | 18:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | enable-all-catalogs && apt-get install unzip && enable-basic-catalogs | 19:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err | 19:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | enable-all-catalogs && apt-get update && apt-get install unzip && enable-basic-catalogs | 19:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a plan to warm up for some hacking ;-) | 19:02 |
Ashley` | i'd toltally ise that | 19:02 |
Ashley` | *totally | 19:02 |
Apic | Re. | 19:11 |
Apic | I'm _so_ glad that /home did not get overflashed… | 19:12 |
Apic | Have my chroot- and Tethering-Shellscripts there… | 19:13 |
Apic | When Program Manager will have finished with installing back my Apps, first Thing i'll do will be make a Backup with the eleet Backupmenu | 19:14 |
Apic | _Then_ trying to deploy iptables again ;-) | 19:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a plan | 19:15 |
bencoh | which reminds me I still have to install a kernel-power (nat, bleh) | 19:16 |
Apic | Yeah | 19:16 |
bencoh | do you think backporting mptcp would be possible ? :p | 19:16 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, http://privatepaste.com/70a69bd49c already looks good | 19:29 |
Apic | Yah | 19:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or rather http://privatepaste.com/df27fff0df | 19:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng docpurge | 19:31 |
* DocScrutinizer05 waves | 19:32 | |
* Apic waves back | 19:33 | |
Raimu | OK, I was thinking of filing a bug for sharing-plugin-facebook not validating but from what I gather bugs.maemo.org won't accept bug reports for old Nokia software anymore | 19:39 |
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Raimu | Additionally, found an older bug for sharing-plugin-facebook where it was indicated that anything in that blob will be insta-wontfix so I guess that's that | 19:40 |
Raimu | *sigh* | 19:40 |
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Apic | Cool | 19:55 |
Apic | The backupmenu has an fsck Option, too! \o/ | 19:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | toldya BM does other cute things too | 20:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-04-14 Mon 17:05:52] <DocScrutinizer05> and bm can do a lot more of nice things | 20:19 |
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