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| DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: "W:" means Warning | 02:05 |
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| pbryan | ~charging | 06:10 |
| pbryan | Hmm, has anyone else had problems with their N900 charging? | 06:11 |
| bef0rd | flaky usb port | 06:11 |
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| bef0rd | ~usb | 06:11 |
| pbryan | bef0rd: Hmm. Like solder joint? | 06:11 |
| infobot | methinks usb is Unusable Serial Bus. Useless Serial Bus. Ugly Stupid Bus | 06:11 |
| bef0rd | ~usb-flaky | 06:12 |
| bef0rd | err | 06:12 |
| bef0rd | pbryan: yea | 06:12 |
| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90545 | 06:12 |
| pbryan | But it "thinks" it's charging... | 06:12 |
| * pbryan follows link... | 06:12 | |
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| bef0rd | pbryan: oh, could be a battery issue? | 06:30 |
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| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 | 06:37 |
| bef0rd | that's the thread I was looking for | 06:37 |
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| pbryan | Yeah, maybe a battery issue. | 06:47 |
| pbryan | Thanks bef0rd. | 06:47 |
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| Apic | msg A wonderful gorgeous good Morning on this splendid Saturday Morning! | 08:41 |
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| Apic | FSCK! | 09:59 |
| Apic | vfat cannot cope sparse Files, eh? | 09:59 |
| Apic | Just did: root@Nokia-N900:~/MyDocs# dd if=/dev/zero of=deb.dd seek=4223216555 bs=1 count=1 | 09:59 |
| Apic | At least i'm currently watching South Park S17E09, so i _can_ wait. ;-) | 09:59 |
| Maxdamantus | There's usually a standard utility that does that called `truncate` | 10:12 |
| Maxdamantus | ah, it's in coreutils. | 10:12 |
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| Maxdamantus | /opt/maemo/usr/bin/gnu/truncate | 10:12 |
| Maxdamantus | -s 4223216556 | 10:13 |
| Apic | =) | 10:13 |
| Apic | That works on VFAT? | 10:13 |
| Maxdamantus | No. | 10:13 |
| Apic | k | 10:13 |
| Apic | Thanks anyhow. | 10:13 |
| Apic | I just changed user to apic in /etc/passwd, no i cannot su | 10:14 |
| Apic | I have to wait until the dd is done to regain my last rootsh ;-) | 10:14 |
| Maxdamantus | ctrl-c? | 10:14 |
| Apic | sudo gainroot does not work either | 10:14 |
| Apic | Yeah, i _could_ | 10:14 |
| Apic | But i'll watch Southpark S17E07 and S17E08 and IRC and wait ;-) | 10:14 |
| Apic | Do not wanna start dd again | 10:15 |
| Apic | ;-) | 10:15 |
| Maxdamantus | If only Plan 9 had become more popular. | 10:17 |
| Apic | Well... | 10:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Then people wouldn't be using FAT on their phones still. | 10:17 |
| Apic | I could do Ctrl-Z and bg, right? | 10:17 |
| Apic | Maxdamantus: Right. | 10:17 |
| Apic | Ah | 10:18 |
| Apic | Finished now anyhow o/ | 10:18 |
| Apic | How can i restore su? visudo prolly | 10:18 |
| Apic | bash: visudo: command not found | 10:18 |
| Apic | Ok, vi /etc/sudoers | 10:18 |
| Apic | There is no sudoers | 10:18 |
| Apic | WTF? | 10:18 |
| Apic | Help! | 10:18 |
| Maxdamantus | I think the command's meant to be `sudoedit`, but dunno. | 10:19 |
| Sicelo | visudo | 10:19 |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, sudoedit just edits a file. | 10:19 |
| Apic | bash: visudo: command not found | 10:19 |
| Maxdamantus | try /usr/sbin/visudo | 10:19 |
| Apic | Maybe N900 has hardcoded? | 10:19 |
| Sicelo | lol Apic .. have to do that as root anyway | 10:20 |
| Apic | bash: /usr/sbin/visudo: No such file or directory | 10:20 |
| Apic | N900 has hardcoded su just for user? | 10:20 |
| Sicelo | doing that as root? | 10:20 |
| Apic | root@Nokia-N900:~# cat /etc/passwd|grep apic | 10:20 |
| Apic | root@Nokia-N900:~# cat /etc/passwd|grep user | 10:20 |
| Apic | WHAT HAPPEN! | 10:20 |
| Apic | Maybe i just edited the passwd inside chroot? | 10:20 |
| Sicelo | haha | 10:21 |
| Apic | But where the fuck is user in passwd? | 10:21 |
| Sicelo | by the way, i do remember saying you will need to revise your approach to maemo :) | 10:21 |
| Apic | apic:.CENSORED29999:29999::/home/apic:/bin/bash | 10:21 |
| Apic | user:.CENSORED29999:29999::/home/apic:/bin/bash | 10:21 |
| Apic | Sicelo: Yes, very true. | 10:21 |
| Apic | Ok, this is _inside_ the chroot | 10:21 |
| Sicelo | what chroot? | 10:22 |
| Apic | What the fsck removed user from /etc/passwd outside? | 10:22 |
| Apic | My deb chroot in /home/deb | 10:22 |
| Apic | Which i installed with debootstrap | 10:22 |
| Apic | So, can somebody explain how user got lost from passwd and what should i add back there please? | 10:23 |
| Apic | (Not even necessarily need to explain, just let me get it restored w/o flashing again…) | 10:24 |
| Sicelo | prolly bindmounts.. | 10:25 |
| Apic | Ah, right! | 10:25 |
| Apic | But i only bindmounted MyDocs | 10:25 |
| Apic | Ah | 10:25 |
| Apic | Maybe i am root _inside_ the chroot? | 10:26 |
| Apic | Probably, /proc is empty | 10:26 |
| Apic | Can i safely Ctrl-D out and will still be root outside? | 10:26 |
| Apic | Ah, yeah | 10:26 |
| Apic | user:.CENSORED29999:29999::/home/apic:/bin/bash is outside | 10:26 |
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| Apic | So how can i make sudo work again? It asks for Password:, but my user Password i set before does not work. | 10:27 |
| Apic | -bash-2.05b$ sudo ls | 10:27 |
| Apic | Password: | 10:27 |
| Apic | Sorry, user apic is not allowed to execute '/bin/ls' as root on quartz. | 10:27 |
| Apic | Maybe if i put user before apic in /etc/passwd? | 10:28 |
| Apic | I'll try leaving the chroot now | 10:29 |
| Apic | k, am root on the Device itself, it seems o/ | 10:30 |
| Apic | Swapped apic and user, now sudo ls works again o/ | 10:30 |
| Apic | sudo gainroot also \o/ | 10:30 |
| Sicelo | sorry i can't help .. have never played with those files on maemo. i've never found it necessary to add new users on my device | 10:30 |
| Apic | Ok, bindmounted /proc and /dev | 10:34 |
| Apic | Now i'll mount teh ext3 | 10:34 |
| Apic | Uh, first _create_ ext3 on the 4G VFAT ;-) | 10:34 |
| Apic | Proceed anyway? (y,n) j | 10:35 |
| Apic | Should patch sometime to allow German j ;-) | 10:35 |
| Apic | I'm so happy my 32G eMMC still works… had to send it back to Nokia once because it got clammy in the Bathroom (not inside the Tub, just inside the Room) and failed | 10:36 |
| Apic | Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done | 10:38 |
| Apic | o/ | 10:38 |
| Apic | root@quartz:~# mount /home/user/MyDocs/deb.dd /mnt | 10:38 |
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| Apic | drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Apr 12 07:36 lost+found | 10:38 |
| Apic | o/ | 10:38 |
| Apic | *debootstrap* | 10:39 |
| Apic | Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) | 10:40 |
| Apic | Uhmkay, forogt | 10:40 |
| Apic | forgot even | 10:40 |
| Apic | Done | 10:40 |
| Apic | I: Valid Release signature (key id ED6D65271AACF0FF15D123036FB2A1C265FFB764) | 10:41 |
| Apic | o/ | 10:41 |
| Apic | Ok, after watching Southpark S17E08 (seen E09 and E07 before), i'll go to Breakfast while debootstrap runs | 10:43 |
| Sicelo | Apic: if you want to use current debian packages, you'll find it more fun if you just boot it directly, via uboot maybe | 10:44 |
| Apic | True. | 10:45 |
| Apic | But i'm not that far yet. Step by Step… | 10:45 |
| Apic | http://elektranox.org/n900/ is going there… | 10:45 |
| Apic | To make even the Parts that are Closed Source in Maemo normal Debian Open | 10:46 |
| Apic | But seems he's stalled for >1Y | 10:46 |
| Apic | Prolly something in her/his RL happened | 10:46 |
| Sicelo | nope. he's very active | 10:46 |
| Apic | Cool! | 10:46 |
| Sicelo | http://elinux.org/N900 .. same guy | 10:46 |
| Apic | Whoah, thanks! | 10:46 |
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| Apic | I'll write to my public .plan to check it out! | 10:47 |
| Apic | Done. | 10:47 |
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| Maxdamantus | It basically works anyway. | 10:55 |
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| Maxdamantus | You don't really need to do anything special to get it to run. | 10:55 |
| Maxdamantus | debootstrap, maybe configure a few things, then exec /sbin/init as pid=1 somehow. | 10:56 |
| Maxdamantus | Presumably without R&D mode on, you'd need to configure something that sends pulses to the watchdogs. | 10:57 |
| Maxdamantus | otherwise it doesn't require any special configuration afair | 10:57 |
| Maxdamantus | Well, the touchscreen was inverted in Xorg. | 10:58 |
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| Maxdamantus | Option "Calibration" "212 3899 3758 219" | 10:59 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. Numpty Physics. Cool. | 11:00 |
| * Maxdamantus remembers playing Crayon Physics. | 11:00 | |
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| Apic | Fuck, my Phone resetted during the debootstrap | 11:40 |
| Apic | Now i'll have to let it start over | 11:40 |
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| Apic | Hope it will not fsck up yet again. %-| | 11:43 |
| Apic | I: Valid Release signature (key id ED6D65271AACF0FF15D123036FB2A1C265FFB764) | 11:44 |
| Apic | o/ | 11:44 |
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| Apic | I: Unpacking perl-base... | 11:59 |
| Apic | *Pressing_Thumbs* | 11:59 |
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| Apic | I: Configuring debconf-i18n... | 12:10 |
| Apic | I: Configuring initscripts... | 12:10 |
| Apic | *Hope* | 12:10 |
| Maxdamantus | Are you installing armel or armhf? | 12:11 |
| Apic | Dunnoi | 12:17 |
| Apic | -i | 12:17 |
| Apic | I did not set the Arch | 12:17 |
| Apic | So it should be automagically right™ | 12:17 |
| Apic | I: Unpacking aptitude-common... | 12:17 |
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| Apic | I: Unpacking aptitude-common... | 12:22 |
| Apic | Still… | 12:22 |
| Apic | Uh, the Terminal does not react to Keypresses. B-( | 12:23 |
| Apic | fsck, it resetted again | 12:23 |
| Apic | What shall i do? | 12:23 |
| Maxdamantus | Do you know why it resets? | 12:24 |
| Apic | No. | 12:25 |
| Apic | B-( | 12:25 |
| Apic | Maybe i can still use the partially installed System? | 12:25 |
| Apic | I'll wait on Suggestions here. | 12:26 |
| Maxdamantus | What's your maximum clock frequency? | 12:26 |
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| Apic | Dunno | 12:27 |
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| Maxdamantus | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq | 12:27 |
| Apic | 600000 | 12:29 |
| Apic | It does not feel hot on the Outside tho | 12:29 |
| Maxdamantus | The default then. | 12:29 |
| Apic | Yes. | 12:29 |
| Apic | Shall i try to reduce it? | 12:29 |
| Apic | Has debootstrap a recovery Mode/Option? | 12:29 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno. | 12:29 |
| Apic | B-( | 12:29 |
| Apic | DocScrutinizer05, where are though? ;-) | 12:30 |
| Maxdamantus | I think you wanted to say "where art thou" | 12:30 |
| Apic | Ack | 12:30 |
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| Sicelo | reducing frequency is not needed | 12:48 |
| Sicelo | when he says 'Reset' he means restart? | 12:48 |
| Apic | Yes, it says "Reboot occured - custom Kernel Settings were _not_ loaded" | 12:49 |
| Apic | So it rebooted from Kernel-Power into ordinary Kernel | 12:49 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe you should try putting it into R&D mode. | 12:50 |
| Ashley` | i think that means that your custom kernel progile werent loaded | 12:50 |
| Maxdamantus | maybe the WD is being held up. | 12:50 |
| Ashley` | and not that it booted into ordinary kernel | 12:51 |
| Ashley` | *profile | 12:51 |
| Ashley` | *wasn't | 12:51 |
| Apic | WD? | 12:54 |
| Apic | Ok. | 12:54 |
| Ashley` | watchdog | 12:56 |
| Apic | Ah. | 12:56 |
| Apic | How do i give it higher Priority? | 12:56 |
| Apic | Just nice the debootstrap | 12:56 |
| Apic | ? | 12:56 |
| Apic | Also, can i make debootstrap restore its old State somehow? | 12:57 |
| Apic | That it had before the Boot? | 12:57 |
| Apic | There is a Dir debootstrap/… | 12:57 |
| Ashley` | i guess changing niceness of debootstrap should work | 12:57 |
| Ashley` | it worked for me when i was doing pacman -Syu in chroot | 12:58 |
| Apic | Okay! | 13:00 |
| Apic | I'll use nice -n 23 | 13:00 |
| Apic | Because my Christianization Dictum is Psalm 23 ;-) | 13:01 |
| Sicelo | i did not really get what you'll do with this debian system you're setting up.. you'll chroot into it from maemo, or the goal is to boot into it? | 13:02 |
| Apic | root@quartz:/mnt# nice -n 23 debootstrap stable /mnt http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian | 13:03 |
| Apic | *Pressing_Thumbs* | 13:03 |
| Apic | Goal is to chroot, yes. | 13:04 |
| Apic | To boot from i'll probably set up another one on microSDHC | 13:04 |
| Apic | Redundancy is very, very good! | 13:04 |
| Apic | Especially on Solid State Devices! | 13:04 |
| Sicelo | so cli only? or you'll want xserver too? | 13:05 |
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| Apic | Firstly i'm very, very happy to have CLI | 13:06 |
| Apic | XServer then prolly too, but not that fancy Stuff like LibreOffice | 13:06 |
| Apic | Who needs LibreOffice when You have emacs -nw? ;-) | 13:06 |
| Apic | I installed EasyDeb multiple Times, but it fscked up every Time | 13:07 |
| Apic | Sometimes when unpacking the LZMA… | 13:07 |
| Apic | Sometimes when trying to get Security Updates… | 13:07 |
| Sicelo | suggestion: consider booting this new system, less chance to mess up your maemo. it is not as difficult as it might look | 13:07 |
| Sicelo | fwiw, my easydeb always ran perfectly, still does | 13:08 |
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| Apic | okay. | 13:10 |
| Apic | I can still boot it from VFAT ext3 dd Image? | 13:10 |
| Apic | Prolly need initramfs | 13:10 |
| Apic | Well, i'm sorta „Power User", i have Chance to mess up _anything_ i use, not just Mobile Phones… i'm like a Crashtest Dummy ;-) | 13:11 |
| Apic | I find Race Conditions very often | 13:11 |
| Apic | Wanted or unwantedly… | 13:11 |
| Sicelo | vfta? ext3? but anyway, booting works from any filesystem that uboot understands | 13:12 |
| Apic | Ok. | 13:12 |
| Apic | I'll just make an ext3 Partition on my microSDHC | 13:12 |
| Apic | After i'm done with my Maemo Deb Chroot | 13:12 |
| Apic | I: Extracting bash... | 13:17 |
| Apic | root@quartz:/mnt# | 13:17 |
| Apic | Don! | 13:17 |
| Apic | +e | 13:17 |
| Apic | I love You Gals'n'Guys! | 13:17 |
| Apic | I'll repartition my 16G microSDHC now, and cp -a | 13:18 |
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| Apic | Probably the Android Parition for NITDroid does need to be the first one? | 13:22 |
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| Sicelo | android? :-| | 13:24 |
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| Apic | Yes, to play ingress with my Friend sometimes… | 13:26 |
| Apic | Or, well… | 13:26 |
| Apic | Ok, i'll _reserve_ the Partition, but do not install NITDroid in near Future. ;-) | 13:27 |
| Apic | Does this make You feeling better? ;-) | 13:27 |
| Apic | I'll just reserve 2G | 13:27 |
| Apic | Should be more than enough | 13:27 |
| Sicelo | it's your device, your choice | 13:28 |
| Apic | Very true! | 13:28 |
| Apic | And it's even the _easily_pluggable_ Part of my Device! o/ | 13:28 |
| Apic | root@quartz:~# chroot /deb | 13:33 |
| Apic | chroot: can't execute '/bin/bash': Stale NFS file handle | 13:33 |
| Apic | lol | 13:33 |
| Apic | What now? FSCK> | 13:33 |
| Apic | s/>/?/ | 13:33 |
| infobot | Apic meant: What now? FSCK? | 13:33 |
| Apic | I'll reboot, then fsck.vfat, then fsck.ext3 | 13:34 |
| Apic | dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN | 13:38 |
| Apic | Reclaimed 49153 unused clusters (3221291008 bytes) in 2 chains. | 13:40 |
| Apic | Performing changes. | 13:40 |
| Apic | /dev/mmcblk0p1: 22081 files, 298798/442377 clusters | 13:40 |
| Apic | Now booting, then fsck.ext3 | 13:40 |
| Apic | fsck.ext3 -y fixes quite a lotta Errors! | 13:44 |
| Apic | Very fine! | 13:44 |
| Apic | ♥ | 13:45 |
| Apic | Error deallocating inode 8283: Illegal triply indirect block found | 13:46 |
| Apic | e2fsck: aborted | 13:46 |
| Apic | I'll make a new ext3 | 13:47 |
| Apic | And start debootstrap again | 13:47 |
| Apic | This Time nice from the Start! | 13:47 |
| Apic | -n 23 | 13:47 |
| Maxdamantus | tbh, you should stop using FAT. | 13:49 |
| Apic | lost+found | 13:50 |
| Apic | root@quartz:/mnt# cd .. | 13:50 |
| Apic | root@quartz:/# nice -n 23 debootstrap stable /mnt http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian | 13:50 |
| Maxdamantus | if you want to be able to use it as a UMS, make a file somewhere for the UMS image and make g_file_storage use that, rather than /dev/mmcblk1p2 or whatever it is. | 13:50 |
| Apic | Uh… | 13:51 |
| Apic | Can You reformulate that, please? | 13:51 |
| Apic | I did not fully understand. | 13:51 |
| Ashley` | i like it how you type commands using bold | 13:51 |
| Apic | Thanks! | 13:51 |
| Maxdamantus | The only thing autonomous devices still use FAT for is drives that might be mounted on other computers. | 13:52 |
| Maxdamantus | Just don't mount the drive on another computer. | 13:52 |
| Apic | http://i.imgur.com/MVnIL5F.gif | 13:52 |
| Maxdamantus | if you really want to, mount a file from a sane filesystem instead .. that file can contain an insane filesystem like FAT if it wants to. | 13:52 |
| Apic | But i want to keep _all_ Options open! | 13:53 |
| Maxdamantus | you can always remove that file without repartitioning, etc | 13:53 |
| Apic | For an infinite Number of Futures! | 13:53 |
| Apic | One is not enough for me. ;-) | 13:53 |
| Apic | I want to live _contemporaneously_. ;-) | 13:53 |
| Maxdamantus | You can also make that file multiple terabytes on a small filesystem, for fun. | 13:53 |
| Apic | True. | 13:53 |
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| Apic | I: Valid Release signature (key id ED6D65271AACF0FF15D123036FB2A1C265FFB764) | 13:56 |
| Apic | o/ | 13:56 |
| Apic | (Weil der Fuchs tun muss, was der Fuchs von Buxdehude tun muss…) | 13:56 |
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| Apic | I: Retrieving tar | 14:06 |
| Apic | Tarpit ftw! | 14:06 |
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| Apic | Warning: A[sic] unexpected reboot occured. Your custom kernel settings were NOT loaded. | 14:32 |
| Apic | DARN FUCK! | 14:32 |
| Apic | At I: Unpacking perl-base... | 14:32 |
| Apic | Do i need ionice too? | 14:32 |
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| Apic | FSCK | 14:38 |
| Apic | My whole MyDocs fscked up | 14:38 |
| Apic | 16GB Worth of Shit | 14:38 |
| Apic | I'll use Mass Storage Mode and testdisk and Friends… | 14:39 |
| Apic | Ah | 14:40 |
| Apic | Reboot got the MyDocs back | 14:40 |
| Apic | o/ | 14:40 |
| Apic | Luck in Unluck ;-) | 14:40 |
| lct | Apic: what are trying to achieve? | 14:45 |
| Apic | Deb Chroot | 14:45 |
| joga | easydebian? | 14:45 |
| Apic | No | 14:45 |
| Apic | Rolling my own | 14:45 |
| Apic | Because i fscked too much in the Past with EasyDeb | 14:46 |
| Apic | Alone the LZMA fsck up oftenly | 14:46 |
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| Apic | root@quartz:~# ionice -c 3 nice -n 23 debootstrap stable /mnt http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian | 14:57 |
| Apic | I: Retrieving Release | 14:57 |
| Apic | I: Retrieving Release.gpg | 14:58 |
| Apic | I: Checking Release signature | 14:58 |
| Apic | I: Valid Release signature (key id ED6D65271AACF0FF15D123036FB2A1C265FFB764) | 14:58 |
| Apic | I: Retrieving Packages | 14:58 |
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| Apic | I: Base system installed successfully. | 15:51 |
| Apic | JEHOVA! I PRAISE THEEEEEEEE! O MY LORDESS! | 15:52 |
| joga | may be dangerous to get all religious about it! | 15:59 |
| Apic | *shrug* | 16:05 |
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| Apic | I had my Settlement with Goddess Eris Discordia… mostly… ;-) | 16:05 |
| Apic | I even have the Sacred Chao tattooed on my right Shoulder. | 16:06 |
| Apic | s/had/have been having/ | 16:06 |
| Apic | Hi Sailor7488. | 16:06 |
| Apic | Welcome! | 16:06 |
| joga | I think currently I worship Crom, and am about to die soon... barely survived by quaffing an unknown potion at a critical moment, but will probably be petrified or starved in the very near future | 16:07 |
| joga | (nethack game running in shell, been idle for a couple of days so I can think what to do) ;p | 16:08 |
| Apic | ;-) | 16:09 |
| Apic | GL | 16:09 |
| Apic | HF | 16:10 |
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| Apic | How was the USB-Host-Mode Package called again? | 17:47 |
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| Sicelo | ush-mode, and h-e-n | 18:08 |
| Sicelo | depending which one you like | 18:08 |
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| Apic | ush with h | 18:34 |
| Sicelo | sorry, usb-mode | 18:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | usb-mode may or may not work, when it works the it works more conveniently than h-e-n. Both the uncertainty and the convenience coming from stronger automation of the whole switching process which isn't thoroughly tested and debugged yet | 18:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | which btw is the reason why h-e-n didn't progress / improve in that direction. h-e-n is targeted at maximum success of enabling hostmode, while usb-hostmode is targeted at maximum integration and convenience | 18:55 |
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| Ashley` | how can i use gobject introspection in python? | 23:31 |
| Ashley` | in maemo | 23:31 |
| Ashley` | i've installed gir1.0-clutter-1.3 | 23:31 |
| Ashley` | python-gobject-pygi, pygi, gobject-introspection | 23:32 |
| Ashley` | ImportError: No module named gi | 23:32 |
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| merlin1991 | hm check with dpkg -L pygi where it drops the files and have a look around I'd say | 23:36 |
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| Ashley` | /opt/pygi/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gi/ | 23:51 |
| merlin1991 | then you need to import gtk-2.0/gi or somehting | 23:55 |
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| Ashley` | i dont know how :| | 23:56 |
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| merlin1991 | hm gimme a sec | 23:59 |
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