| DocScrutinizer05 | triple-height font, you can't help love UTF-8 | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wow | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | didn't know such fonts were even possible | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when triple-height is possible, then... where does it end? | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whole screenshots? | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | movies? | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/10/plasma-desktopLn1775.png | 00:03 |
| silviof | only what I see is a '?' :-) | 00:06 |
| silviof | I need UTF8 | 00:06 |
| * silviof thought he has UTF8 | 00:07 | |
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| freemangordon | LOL, jonwil's alive :D http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1420749&postcount=7 | 00:14 |
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| Sicelo | :) | 00:16 |
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| MrPingu | grrrr, borked transitions.ini and managing to get a proper one back was a pain... | 00:24 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | thought that was fixed. | 00:30 |
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| MrPingu | sixwheeledbeast: It seems it isn't (CSSU-thumb/testing) | 00:44 |
| MrPingu | maybe in cssu-devel | 00:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | mmm not sure | 00:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~cssu-devel | 00:45 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-devel is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292, or extremely deprecated for any non-developer | 00:45 |
| MrPingu | ah my backup transition.ini is awfully slow :P | 00:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ah fixed in h-d 2.2.154~2 must be cssu-devel | 00:47 |
| freemangordon | it is in cssu-devel | 00:48 |
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| MrPingu | yeah but not running devel on this "stable" N900 | 01:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't 2run devel", it's not a distro, not even a collection of working programs | 01:48 |
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| MrPingu | Well, let's say I don't have cssu-devel added | 01:59 |
| MrPingu | And I don't like doing that on a "stable" device | 01:59 |
| MrPingu | Although my other n900 is running fine (at first sight) too | 02:00 |
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| Apic | DocScrutinizer05: ic, thank You! | 09:22 |
| Apic | What Image do i need to flash when i want to keep the 32GB eMMC? | 09:22 |
| Apic | Only wanna restore Root FS | 09:22 |
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| Apic | RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin looks as bad as RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, because Combined sounds like multiple Images? | 09:30 |
| Apic | Maybe i can find a matching Option in flasher. | 09:31 |
| Apic | I do not even need to flash Kernel… | 09:31 |
| Apic | But i dunno if the Multiboot U-Boot will still work | 09:31 |
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| Apic | So i probably better flash Kernel too… | 09:31 |
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| Apic | I hope somebody knowledgeful will awake soon. ;-) | 09:32 |
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| Maxdamantus | Apic: I think you can do it with --flash-only=rootfs | 10:30 |
| Maxdamantus | Apic: but don't take my word for it. | 10:30 |
| Apic | I'm actually still charging | 10:32 |
| Apic | Yesterday charging w/ the corrupt Device did not work. | 10:32 |
| Apic | I will go for Breakfast now, hope DocScrutinizer05 or someone else cognisant will appear. ^.^ | 10:32 |
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| bencoh | combined is written to nand afaik | 11:12 |
| bencoh | vanilla_emmc is written to ... emmc :) | 11:12 |
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| Apic | Ok, now i'll try --flash-only=rootfs | 11:18 |
| Apic | Wish me Luck! | 11:18 |
| Apic | … | 11:19 |
| Apic | !flasher | 11:20 |
| Apic | ~flasher | 11:20 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 11:20 |
| Apic | http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH is gone | 11:21 |
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| Apic | Sending and flashing rootfs image (185728 kB)... | 11:25 |
| Apic | 64% (119552 of 185728 kB, 14944 kB/s) | 11:25 |
| Apic | 100% (185728 of 185728 kB, avg. 15137 kB/s) | 11:25 |
| Apic | Finishing flashing... done | 11:25 |
| Apic | Now it shows NOKIA . | 11:26 |
| Apic | Shall i send a REBOOT Command via flasher? | 11:26 |
| Apic | I just disconnected the USB | 11:28 |
| Apic | Now it showed a dim Kernel Boot, then a white Light | 11:29 |
| Apic | Now i push the Power Button | 11:29 |
| Apic | U-Boot Menu still there! | 11:29 |
| Apic | I try to boot Kernel-Power | 11:29 |
| Apic | Now it seems it went off… | 11:29 |
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| Apic | I'll try the ordinary Kernel | 11:30 |
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| Apic | It shows the 5 bubbling Dots | 11:31 |
| Apic | *throb* | 11:31 |
| Apic | Still… hm… | 11:31 |
| Apic | Hangs? | 11:31 |
| Apic | Darn, seems to hang. | 11:31 |
| Apic | Anyone got an Idea? | 11:32 |
| Apic | Ah | 11:32 |
| Apic | now | 11:32 |
| Apic | ! | 11:32 |
| Apic | Yeah | 11:32 |
| Apic | ”Enter lock code" | 11:32 |
| Apic | Just my D-Theme Green is gone - obviously | 11:32 |
| Apic | And the Holdings-Hands-Video that i disabled shows ;-) | 11:32 |
| Apic | o/ | 11:32 |
| Apic | Epic Success! | 11:32 |
| Apic | Now restored Backup, it launches Program Manager to reinstall the Stuff! \o/ | 11:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 12:46 |
| infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 12:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH works fine here | 12:47 |
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| Apic | Yah, worked | 12:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware has a fine mini-tutorial not only how to flash but also what gets flashed and what this means | 12:52 |
| Apic | k | 12:54 |
| Apic | Now i want to install a fresh Debian Chroot | 12:54 |
| Apic | Do You have Experience regarding that? | 12:54 |
| Apic | I need an ext2 to make debootstrap work right from the Start probably… | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard you best install that to a ext* fs | 12:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | most easy to create on a uSD card | 12:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | others loopmount a huge file on VFAT as a ext* fs | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | most I think create their chroot on /home/ | 12:57 |
| Apic | ic | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | home/ has 2GB size | 12:57 |
| Apic | Ok | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and is ext | 12:58 |
| Apic | So i'll make a Stage 1 with ~1G and then from there create the eMMC-ext3-Image | 12:58 |
| Apic | Ok | 12:58 |
| Apic | Probably even 256MB will suffice for Stage 1 | 12:58 |
| Apic | How can i ssh via USB Connection (do not want to WLAN because of http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140320100824.htm)… | 13:01 |
| Apic | I activated /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and gave ip 192.167.42.23 to my Phone and .42 to my Base Laptop, but cannot Ping… | 13:02 |
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| Apic | s/167/168/ | 13:02 |
| Apic | Hi valerius | 13:02 |
| infobot | Apic meant: I activated /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and gave ip 192.168.42.23 to my Phone and .42 to my Base Laptop, but cannot Ping… | 13:02 |
| Apic | s/ip/IP/ | 13:02 |
| valerius | Apic hi | 13:03 |
| Apic | lulz, infobot does not support multiple Regex-Replaces ;-) | 13:03 |
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| Apic | Anyone? | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usb-networking | 13:07 |
| infobot | it has been said that usb-networking is http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking, or http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking, or http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/usb-networking | 13:07 |
| Apic | Thanks! | 13:08 |
| Apic | So the Route on the Host was missing | 13:09 |
| Apic | 192.168.42.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 | 13:10 |
| Apic | 192.168.42.23 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 usb0 | 13:10 |
| Apic | But still does not ping. ;-( | 13:10 |
| Apic | Any Idea? | 13:27 |
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| bencoh | you dont need the last route | 13:40 |
| bencoh | 192.168.42.0/24 is enough for that | 13:40 |
| bencoh | and ... what do you want to achieve exactly ? (this is plain linux networking by the way, you should give a try at LARTC manual) | 13:41 |
| Apic | I want to SSH | 13:41 |
| Apic | So i can use my big Console | 13:41 |
| Apic | Instead of the Mouse Keyboard | 13:41 |
| Apic | [3/5.0.5]root@ammonit:/home/apic# route del 192.168.42.23 | 13:42 |
| Apic | [3/5.0.5]root@ammonit:/home/apic# route | 13:42 |
| Apic | Kernel-IP-Routentabelle | 13:42 |
| Apic | Ziel Router Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface | 13:42 |
| Apic | default fritz.box 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 | 13:42 |
| Apic | 192.168.42.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 | 13:42 |
| Apic | And now? Of course still cannot PING | 13:42 |
| Apic | Maybe it's an iptables Problem | 13:42 |
| bencoh | might be ... tcpdump on both ends | 13:43 |
| Apic | I'll go out for Lunch now… i'll try that thereafter, thank You! | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, make sure your firewall keeps out of usb0 interface | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also make sure that no networkmanager or whatever thinks the N900 is a new NIC for accessing internet. A common problem that often can get solved only by stopping networkmanager | 13:48 |
| bencoh | and removing this pile of shi^Uwoops | 13:50 |
| bencoh | (friday isn't it ?) | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the usual problem with stuff trying to act smart | 13:51 |
| bencoh | :) | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kinda like windows | 13:51 |
| bencoh | kinda | 13:51 |
| Apic | TGIF | 13:52 |
| Apic | And now _really_ off | 13:52 |
| Apic | Thanks ;-) | 13:52 |
| * Apic & | 13:52 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "this car is equipped with fully automatic intelligent autopilot. Whenever you enter the car between 8:00 and 9:00 AM, it immediately drives you to your office, no matter what" | 13:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas you need a hammer and a wrench to unmount the autopilot when you want to drive to any other destination | 13:54 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders if Apic has an executable file /me on his PC ;-) | 13:57 | |
| Apic | zsh: datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: /me | 14:20 |
| Apic | Re./ | 14:21 |
| Apic | -/ | 14:21 |
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| Maxdamantus | Apic: fwiw, ssh provides security on its own. | 15:06 |
| Maxdamantus | Apic: it's designed to work across insecure transports. | 15:07 |
| Apic | True. | 15:07 |
| Apic | So i'll use WLAN anyhow | 15:07 |
| Apic | But now i'll go to teh Piano Lessons | 15:07 |
| Apic | cul8r | 15:07 |
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| Maxdamantus | Apic: but if you were trying to connect to it from a computer other than the one it was connected to by USB, you'd need to have the computer it's connected to as a route to the phone's subnet. | 15:13 |
| Maxdamantus | and for the computer it's connected to to be the default gateway for the phone. | 15:14 |
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| Maxdamantus | or, instead of the first thing, NAT. | 15:14 |
| Maxdamantus | (on the computer it's connected to) | 15:14 |
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| Apic | Ok. | 16:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | not for WLAN | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | over an AP, with DHCP and all | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | N900 signs in to WLAN, receives e.g. 192.168.1.55 from WLAN's DHCP. Then on any computer in same (W)LAN, you simply do `ssh root@192.168.1.55` and enter the root password you enetered while installing openssh on N900. Done | 16:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: but yes, trying to access a N900 connected to PC-A via USB from PC-B which may or may not be in same LAN like PC-A is a quite ambitious plan | 16:36 |
| Maxdamantus | Indeed. | 16:38 |
| Maxdamantus | IPv6 has standard mechanisms for doing all that stuff automatically though. | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think that's what Apic tried to do | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd not worry about WPA2 vulnerabilities yet | 16:39 |
| Maxdamantus | I think he had the N900 plugged into one computer and was trying to connect to it from another one. | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | really? | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that would explain his difficulties | 16:39 |
| Maxdamantus | otherwise he wouldn't've needed to enable forwarding. | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch, right, he mentions forwarding | 16:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe he did despite not needing it? | 16:42 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe. | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's mentioned somewhere in "share PC's internet to N900 via USB" wiki | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for a simple ssh session from PC to USB-attached N900 it's not needed though | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, for that you probbaly should use NAT to get the USB-device into primary network class IP range | 16:44 |
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| Maxdamantus | eh, dunno if my last messages went through .. not really important. | 16:50 |
| Maxdamantus | 01:47:53 < Maxdamantus> if you just have a rule to do NAT across something like 192.168.0.0/16 internally, you can just use /24 subnets in there for various purposes and only have to worry about routing, not NAT. | 16:50 |
| Maxdamantus | NAT is harder than routing. | 16:51 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 heads out to dead beef cafe to get some steak | 16:53 | |
| * DocScrutinizer05 also wonders whether to eventually try and switch to IPv6 in LAN and WAN | 16:55 | |
| Apic | Humkay.. | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: you checked my session protocol? | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/usb-networking | 16:56 |
| Apic | Only glanced through, i'm in a Hurry atm ;-) | 16:57 |
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| Ashley` | how is called that button in the upper left corner of maemo's hoemscreen (and in non-fullscreen apps)? | 18:48 |
| Ashley` | and, can i simulate click on it from python? | 18:48 |
| Ashley` | i'm writing a full screen app :P | 18:48 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Ashley`: maybe see how cutetube-QML implemented this. | 19:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hildon components maybe | 19:53 |
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| Apic | W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 | 22:19 |
| Apic | How again do i fix this? | 22:19 |
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| Sicelo | Apic: i ignore it :p | 23:06 |
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