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| Sc0rpius | actually I'm amazed that some people still use the N900 (including me) | 00:11 |
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| bencoh | I don't see any reason why we shouldnt :) | 00:12 |
| Sc0rpius | Sailfish OS released a version for the Nexus 4 | 00:12 |
| Sc0rpius | isn't that tempting? :P | 00:13 |
| Sc0rpius | actually Jolla released it | 00:13 |
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| anYc | but not ready for daily use afaik | 00:16 |
| bencoh | Sc0rpius: nope :) | 00:19 |
| bencoh | (RIL and jolla's frankenstein kernel arent tempting for me ;) | 00:20 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, you desperately need some down time. | 01:29 |
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| Sicelo | Sc0rpius: AS works just fine. i setup the outlook.com just to test this functionality on the N900. all supported sync methods work just fine (besides this weird behaviour i have reported). and yeah, even the guys at the shop i bought N900 from were amazed that my N900 is still working and I'm happy with it. I was buying my sister a Lumia 520 | 07:55 |
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| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: yes still alive; will send that email soon | 09:11 |
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| Maxdamantus | (cd /sys/class/leds; h=(0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1); a=0; b=0; d=(1 2 1) n=(r g b); rgb=(255 0 0); for((;;)); do if ((a >= 255)); then a=0; ((b = (b + 1)%6)); fi; for ((x = 0; x < 3; x++)); do ((rgb[$x] += h[b*3 + x])); done; ((a++)); for ((x = 0; x < 3; x++)); do echo $((rgb[x]/d[x])) > lp5523\:"${n[x]}"/brightness; done; done) | 09:28 |
| Maxdamantus | the green LED seems to overpower the others. | 09:28 |
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| ori553 | Hi :) anyone knows about battery mods on the nokia n900? I just want to ask if the 2 batteries have to be the same model or they can be from different brands | 15:00 |
| kerio | afaik it's better if they're as similar as possible | 15:01 |
| kerio | but i don't know how much it changes | 15:01 |
| ori553 | seems fair | 15:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ori553: you ask about connecting battery cells in parallel? They *must* have same cell chemistry and on moment of connecting them must have same voltage (resulting from similar charging level of both cells) | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they *should* have several same characteristics, e.g. regarding cell impedance class (heavy duty vs longlife buffer type) | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also maximum and minimum voltage allowed shall be same (usually implicitly warranted by identical cell chemistry) | 16:02 |
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| ori553 | thanks DocScrutinizer05, do you think its a good idea to buy 2 used original nokia bl-5j batteries? they are 2.7 pounds each | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ori553: you should keep the internal fuse of each individual cell | 16:03 |
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| ori553 | what does that mean? | 16:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | inside a battery there's a electrical fuse in series to the cell. You should keep that and connect parallel the multiple o--fuse--cell--o elements | 16:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | classical blowfuse, made of some wire that melts and fuses on high current, to cut out the battery | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (used BL-5J) well, I bought a few of those and I'm fine with them | 16:08 |
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| ori553 | I'm planning to not fuse anything, I want to connect the batteries using solder wire as it's showed in one of the maemo talk battery mods | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that would even keep the electronic protection circuit, which is fine as well | 16:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you probably don't want to connect the BSI contacts of both batteries | 16:11 |
| ori553 | I have no idea what is a BSI contact, what I want to do is this: | 16:12 |
| ori553 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=980384&postcount=443 | 16:12 |
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| ori553 | what do you think DocScrutinizer05? | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BSI is labeled "T" there | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should work | 16:13 |
| ori553 | :) | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981077&postcount=448 coonected BSI which isn't a brilliant idea | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981378&postcount=449 mentions it | 16:18 |
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| ori553 | so, if I understoof well, I should leave the BSI alone, right? | 16:29 |
| ori553 | *understood | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | right | 16:30 |
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| ori553 | thanks | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | about charging time discussed in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=981380&postcount=450 : The battery(ies) is/are charged by a constant-current/constant-voltage scheme. when the CC part of that scheme would get adjusted to same ratio of capacity of multibattery setup, then the charging time would be identical to single battery setup. However with CC only being maybe one hour of the ~3.5h charging total, it's obvious that only this time | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | increases by factor 2 for doubling the battery capacity, while the CV segment of the process shall stay same duration. IOW: the charging for dual-battery will be 4.5h instead of 3.5h | 16:35 |
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| ori553 | thanks | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as in (1h CC) * 2 + (2.5h CV) | 16:37 |
| ori553 | I can't wait for the mugen cover and the batteries to arrive, it must be a nice feeling when you're in a long journey and realize that you can actually play games or watch a movie on your phone | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (neglecting the fact that actual end-of-charge detection gets flawed by the unchanged end-of-charge-current threshold, which will kick in later with two parallel batteries, but that only means it's charging longer until you get the "charged" message, but batteries are charged to same level after 4.5h that a single battery is after 3.5h. It might take another 1h on top of that until the charger *detects* "battery charged") | 16:41 |
| ori553 | do you think that 1h on top of that until the charger detects "battery charged" will damage the battery? | 16:42 |
| ori553 | *the batteries | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, definitely not. When you keep display on, the threshold never trips | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bme does some silly and some smart things around all this, but it's not introducing problems when you add a 2nd battery in parallel | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bottom line: don't connect BSI and make sure you don't create any shorts to the metal battery bay or between the battery contacts, and you're fine with such setup. Your capacity and "charging" indicators might sometimes be quite a bit off the actual values, but that isn't a huge problem | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see the hugest risk in those blank wires running from primary to second battery, they rather should be isolated so you can't shortcircuit batteries by simply touching a conductive surface | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bme | 16:51 |
| infobot | bme is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME | 16:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<GeneralAntilles> DocScrutinizer05, you desperately need some down time.)) sure, pal. I will have infinite downtime RSN | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I had ~3 months time to ponder this step. Now I'm set | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just waiting for another few days to not complicate your e.V. business, and maybe I'll help Jussi since he's responsible to take care about elections. Other than that, I already *got* my downtime, if you haven't noticed | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I however will increase the level of "down" by - from now on - not even forwarding eny incidents like the one with certs expiring. Those go to my private /dev/null instead, from now on | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/ eny/ any/ | 17:07 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: I however will increase the level of "down" by - from now on - not even forwarding any incidents like the one with certs expiring. Those go to my private /dev/null instead, from now on | 17:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when every word you say earns you some more bitching, you eventually don't say a word anymore | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | simple as that | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll simply remove all my mail aliases from *@maemo.org | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all of them should at least have one more valid address of some other person they get sent to as well | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I won't take care of finding any replacement for the aliases (no longer) pointing to me | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no more >> | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ** PROBLEM Service Alert: scratchbox.maemo.org/SSH is CRITICAL ** | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | From: nagios@monitor.maemo.org | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | To: maemo-infra-monitor@reisexxxxx.xx | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Date: 2014-03-28 07:22 << | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OMG, which joy! \o/ | 17:15 |
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