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ff0000ghi ^.^01:49
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MaxdamantusWell, Fennec is still available for Android.02:00
MaxdamantusI suspect a lot of people will be using it there.02:00
Maxdamantus(note that "Fennec" is Mozilla's codename for the project, like "Shiretoko" for the browser, etc .. they're both just branded as "Firefox")02:01
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Maxdamantusoh, it's not called Shiretoko now.02:04
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raccoon_Agge, Lynx-z et al: i actually found the main flashing article (on maemo wiki) very useful.. did the entire procedure a couple of times yesterday just to get the hang of it. i guess the hardest part was finding the correct firmware; however there are md5 checksussums, DHT hashes and filenames available for that part. keeping mirrors online to support legacy is _hard_. better make sure required metadata (checksums and filenames) are avilable everywhere than ...15:51
raccoon_... keeping a certain mirror online forever15:51
raccoon_that same argument goes for the flasher software too i guess15:51
Aggeyeah fond the same thing when I flashed my n900 about a year ago15:52
kolp__has something changed or has microb always been a massive memory hog and brought the system almost to a complete halt when browsing almost any website?15:53
raccoon_Agge: i did not however feel i got the hang of it until reading it all through a couple of times; but as mentioned earlier in the channel that's probably inevitable since "flashing <most> maemo devices using <different kinds of> computers" is a pretty general topic. if you really want to make an effort rewriting the flashing guides i would suggest you focus on N900 and N900 only15:57
raccoon_or, rather, the actual devices you have in front of you and could test with when writing the docs.15:57
Aggeofcorse. I dont have access to any of the other ones so I couldent test it on them15:57
raccoon_oh and the article im referring to is this one https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.515:59
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Aggethat one looks less confused then https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware16:03
raccoon_yeah i think the problem with the article you linked is that it tries to deliver an updated account for flashing "all" modern maemo devices16:04
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DocScrutinizer05it's more a problem of PC side than Nxxx Maemo NIT side17:19
DocScrutinizer05and of course a problem of internet, with tis changing URLs and nom-stable sites17:20
DocScrutinizer05its*17:20
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DocScrutinizer05and we *frequently* seen noobs editing that ~flasjing article to include their own unrelated experience they generalized. Like "make sure you don't use black USB cables" or whatever17:22
DocScrutinizer05or "count to 4 and then press the enter key..."17:22
DocScrutinizer05or "works on 3rd try" etc pp17:23
DocScrutinizer05"you must not hold the 'U' key, this is false info" - which obviously is BS since for *N900* it's not mandatory to hold 'U' key but still helps, while for N8x0 it *is* mandatory17:25
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DocScrutinizer05there's a pretty good reason for every single detail in that tutorial17:26
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DocScrutinizer05it's quite awkward formatted and structured, admittedly17:27
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Back_Bencherhi19:10
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