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| ff0000g | hi ^.^ | 01:49 |
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| Maxdamantus | Well, Fennec is still available for Android. | 02:00 |
| Maxdamantus | I suspect a lot of people will be using it there. | 02:00 |
| Maxdamantus | (note that "Fennec" is Mozilla's codename for the project, like "Shiretoko" for the browser, etc .. they're both just branded as "Firefox") | 02:01 |
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| Maxdamantus | oh, it's not called Shiretoko now. | 02:04 |
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| raccoon_ | Agge, Lynx-z et al: i actually found the main flashing article (on maemo wiki) very useful.. did the entire procedure a couple of times yesterday just to get the hang of it. i guess the hardest part was finding the correct firmware; however there are md5 checksussums, DHT hashes and filenames available for that part. keeping mirrors online to support legacy is _hard_. better make sure required metadata (checksums and filenames) are avilable everywhere than ... | 15:51 |
| raccoon_ | ... keeping a certain mirror online forever | 15:51 |
| raccoon_ | that same argument goes for the flasher software too i guess | 15:51 |
| Agge | yeah fond the same thing when I flashed my n900 about a year ago | 15:52 |
| kolp__ | has something changed or has microb always been a massive memory hog and brought the system almost to a complete halt when browsing almost any website? | 15:53 |
| raccoon_ | Agge: i did not however feel i got the hang of it until reading it all through a couple of times; but as mentioned earlier in the channel that's probably inevitable since "flashing <most> maemo devices using <different kinds of> computers" is a pretty general topic. if you really want to make an effort rewriting the flashing guides i would suggest you focus on N900 and N900 only | 15:57 |
| raccoon_ | or, rather, the actual devices you have in front of you and could test with when writing the docs. | 15:57 |
| Agge | ofcorse. I dont have access to any of the other ones so I couldent test it on them | 15:57 |
| raccoon_ | oh and the article im referring to is this one https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.5 | 15:59 |
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| Agge | that one looks less confused then https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware | 16:03 |
| raccoon_ | yeah i think the problem with the article you linked is that it tries to deliver an updated account for flashing "all" modern maemo devices | 16:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's more a problem of PC side than Nxxx Maemo NIT side | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and of course a problem of internet, with tis changing URLs and nom-stable sites | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | its* | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and we *frequently* seen noobs editing that ~flasjing article to include their own unrelated experience they generalized. Like "make sure you don't use black USB cables" or whatever | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or "count to 4 and then press the enter key..." | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or "works on 3rd try" etc pp | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "you must not hold the 'U' key, this is false info" - which obviously is BS since for *N900* it's not mandatory to hold 'U' key but still helps, while for N8x0 it *is* mandatory | 17:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a pretty good reason for every single detail in that tutorial | 17:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's quite awkward formatted and structured, admittedly | 17:27 |
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