IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2014-02-24

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DocScrutinizer05not in a channel about a Nokia phone?00:15
DocScrutinizer05unless mastergear is an app for maemo I never heard of yet00:15
DocScrutinizer05(quite possible)00:16
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FIQhi, any idea how I recover from this? (only happens in query windows) http://i57.tinypic.com/aeleg7.png04:10
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FIQin case it's not obvious - screen size for queries are messed up04:11
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FIQfor xchat@maemo04:11
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ChiaSmurfmaybe ask in hexchat04:27
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nokiabotthanks docky08:17
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DocScrutinizer05nokiabot: behave, please! :-)08:40
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hxkaDocScrutinizer05: I've seen the video with quick Neo900 battery swap09:44
DocScrutinizer05mhm09:44
hxkaBut will it work on cable alone, without a cable?09:44
DocScrutinizer05do you like my illusionist tricks? ;-)09:44
hxkaYeah :)09:44
hxka*without a battery, phew09:45
DocScrutinizer05the fast swap alone isn't meant to accomplish anything09:45
DocScrutinizer05for N900 benefit is questionable09:45
DocScrutinizer05for Neo900 plans are to have a power buffer that will keep device alive during fast swap09:46
DocScrutinizer05this is not a warranted device property, just a "we will see what can get done"09:46
DocScrutinizer05and I think I don't get your question09:47
DocScrutinizer05please rephrase09:47
hxkahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-WNmsLMaE09:48
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DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=5773409:50
hxkaYeah, I've seen that09:51
hxkaI was wondering if it would be possible without such hackery09:51
DocScrutinizer05err no09:52
hxkaAnd without turning off modem and other power consuming stuff09:52
DocScrutinizer05no, since USB power won't suffice09:52
hxkaWhy?09:53
hxkaIt's enough for fully functional N900 AND charging the battery09:53
Luke-Jrwait, USB power isn't sufficient for running Neo900? it needs a dedicated charger? :x09:53
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DocScrutinizer05GOD! could you please all stop assuming09:54
DocScrutinizer05a) battery is NEEDED for WWAN since it may pull up to 10 Watt (!!!) burst power. This however doesn't mean that AVERAGE power consumption of device will be 10Watt. It nevertheless forbids operation of WWAN from USB alone since that can deliver max ~5W09:56
DocScrutinizer05b) this been always like this, on all phones I know, and will be same for Neo900 as well09:57
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DocScrutinizer05c) nevertheless Neo900 will of course work from USB long term, when you got a battery inserted to buffer the bursts09:57
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hxkaOh. I knew power consumption is not smooth, but I didn't realise it varies that much09:58
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DocScrutinizer05d) during battery fast swap, Neo900 might auto-suspend WWAN for 0.2s, and resume immediately10:00
DocScrutinizer05...since the P*S8 supports this, for up to 2s, when we buffer baseband VDD and only break the transmitter VDD10:01
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DocScrutinizer05thus I came up with battery-fastswap10:02
DocScrutinizer05HTH10:03
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DocScrutinizer05damn netsplits10:03
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hxkaOK. If we disable networking, will it be possible to swap the sim card while on cable?10:07
DocScrutinizer05battery fastswap is meant to work on Neo900 in the field, I.E. without any charger attached10:07
DocScrutinizer05hxka: on Neo900? yes10:08
hxkaGreat10:08
DocScrutinizer05but when you (or we ;-D ) are lucky, you don't need/want to swap SIM. We still have an eye on dual-SIM, even when it's only SIM-swap and no dual-standby10:10
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DocScrutinizer05and - who knows - *maybe* Gemalto/cinterion eventually actually comes up with a firmware update that allows true DSDS10:11
DocScrutinizer05a pity they don't offer it right away, like the Option801 module does10:12
DocScrutinizer05but I'm still in contact with them about such perspective10:13
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hxkaI know :) There's just one guy who was complaining how all of the Android phones require to turn them off to swap the sim card10:13
hxkaAs a reson why he wanted Neo90010:13
DocScrutinizer05duely noted10:13
DocScrutinizer05thanks10:14
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ApicA wonderful splendid good Morning (UGT) to You all!11:28
Luke-JrApic: good night11:31
Apictnx11:35
SAiF:)11:41
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ruskiehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/24/nokia_launches_android_range_x/13:25
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DocScrutinizer05LOL13:31
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HerbstbertYes... lol.13:36
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DocScrutinizer05feeder system ;-P13:41
DocScrutinizer05the bad meets the ugly13:42
hxkaSo, first he ditched MeeGo, now we see this. Did you know "Elop" means "fool" in old Russian?13:51
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RaimuElope means "run away with the prize" *wait I mean bride14:09
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Raimu"Nokia X"14:09
Raimu*facepalm*14:10
sono"run off secretly with a lover"14:10
sonolol14:10
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nokiabotwhere are you ?17:15
Herbstberto/ sono...17:16
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sonoHerbstbert ^^17:37
sonoyea i lost my n900 in a cab in hamburg and it didn't turn up again <.<17:37
sonosad day17:37
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Herbstbert:-O17:37
HerbstbertOh. My. God.17:37
HerbstbertBut you have another one?17:38
sononot (yet)17:38
HerbstbertOr... are you N900less now...17:38
HerbstbertOh.17:38
sonoi am considering just working with a china android phone until i can get a neo17:38
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sonoor rather, i have to hawk around ebay in the next couple of months17:39
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nokiabotsono i lost 2 n900s in a single day17:58
sonoarf~17:58
nokiaboti only have n900 lying with me now17:58
nokiabotits a scrap one for reair17:59
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nokiabotwhy linux softwares have crazy names?18:03
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nokiabotany distro on earth that dosent have dependency hell?18:05
nokiabotwhat exactly is a com port18:06
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nokiabotlsusb recognises atttached china phone mtk6225 but how to do something with it?18:08
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hxka> any distro on earth that dosent have dependency hell?18:31
hxkaStarch Linux18:32
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nokiabothxla:checking18:44
silviofcool starchlinux - it was not in my mind18:45
Ashley`lol18:45
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* infobot slaps infobot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!18:59
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Ashley`:D19:35
Ashley`!help19:35
Ashley`~help19:35
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Ashley`http://codecha.org/ awesome22:45
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