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silviofmaybe a dd | netcat thing cann you help or a mounted nfs/sshfs or so?00:39
silviofhonestly: maybe a dd | netcat thing cann you help or a mounted nfs/sshfs or so?00:39
silviofhonestly: scp maybe?00:40
honestlywell, I can't boot my phone00:40
honestlythat's not strictly true I guess00:40
honestlyI have u-boot00:40
honestlyand u-boot works fine00:40
silviofyou can connect to uboot?00:41
honestlyjust neither the standard kernel nor the power kernel boot properly00:41
honestlycan I?00:41
silviofThats what i ask you00:41
jon_ytry RescueOS00:42
jon_yhonestly: it worked wonders for me when my touch screen died00:43
jon_ycan you imagine a modern touch screen phone with a dead touch input?00:43
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honestlywell the n900 isn't *that* modern :P00:44
jon_yjust displaying is really useless, luckily N900 has a hard keyboard00:44
jon_ymanaged to grab my SMS, contacts etc data before I sent the screen for repairs00:44
jon_yand now it is working awesome again00:44
jon_yN900 isn't particularly modern by today, but I want mine to last forever00:45
honestlyI found some sources for rescueOS but they don't seem so good00:45
honestlyis this the right one?00:45
jon_ycan't see any phone capable of replacing it yet00:45
infobotmethinks rescueos is
honestlyoh there's a documentation.txt00:45
honestlyjon_y: neo900?00:45
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jon_yits not out yet00:46
honestlyrescueOS seems awesome :D00:46
jon_yI'll consider when I can buy it, which is unlikely00:46
jon_ysince it is a limited production run00:46
jon_yPreorder Now! Limited Edition!00:47
honestlyI don't really have the spare money for that00:50
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MaxdamantusMm .. so I guess distinguishing between the two space buttons would require modifying omap_twl4030keypad in the kernel.04:38
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Maxdamantusthe code that handles input in u-boot looks like it should be able to distinguish it.04:39
* Maxdamantus should check that.04:39
Maxdamantus/dev/input/keypad gives code 57 for both.04:39
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Maxdamantus(which is the standard code given by keyboards for space)04:42
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DocScrutinizer05jon_y: what do you expect us to do? get a martage on our house to produce a batch of maybe 10k Neo900, then biuld our next house by using as bricks the devices that we couldn't sell?11:10
DocScrutinizer05mortgage, even11:11
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: ?11:14
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DocScrutinizer05jon_y: and seems you are suffering a massive misconception somewhere in context of donations and (pre-)orders. I elaborated on all that in  and follow-ups
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: what?11:22
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: oh that11:23
jon_yI just mean to say I don't expect to be able to buy it11:23
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jon_yobviously limited production run is limited11:23
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: so, no hard feelings?11:28
DocScrutinizer05I just want to avoid getting attributed to statements like ""Preorder Now! Limited Edition!""11:29
DocScrutinizer05it's not what we do11:29
DocScrutinizer05this is no "limited edition"11:29
DocScrutinizer05this is a project basing on limited resources11:30
jon_yok, I mean limited edition as in it is going to be rare11:30
honestlyDocScrutinizer05: how much money do I need to throw at you right now to get a finished neo900 as soon as possible?11:30
DocScrutinizer05exactly zilch11:30
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honestlyoh you mean I'll get one for free? great!11:31
DocScrutinizer05meh, thanks for wasting my time11:31
* silviof has made his donation to neo90011:31
DocScrutinizer05ooh, sorry, I missread your question11:31
DocScrutinizer05I thought "how much do you need to finish neo900"11:32
DocScrutinizer05honestly: we can't tell exact final sales price yet. We hope it will be ~700EUR11:33
* jon_y can't afford 700 :(11:33
honestlythat's 10 times what I paid for my n90011:33
DocScrutinizer05but that obviously depends on what prices we can get for sourcing e.g. the mech parts11:33
jon_yI'll buy 3 if I can actually afford it11:34
DocScrutinizer05honestly: so you expect us to sell you something better than N900 at a better price?11:34
jon_ythe Neo900 IS better than the N90011:35
jon_ythough only if you can afford it11:35
jon_yor if you can get your hands on it11:36
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I'm busy. Please refer to and for any info about expected sales prices and aout the reasons why they are like that11:36
silviofDocScrutinizer05: you sit in Oberhaching?11:36
jon_yas long as it has a proper GNU/Linux and NOT android, I'm cool with it11:36
DocScrutinizer05GDC sits next to there11:36
jon_yalso no ACL against the user11:37
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: yes, I understand why the price is that high11:38
jon_yin fact, I was arguing for your points when a user came in about it a few months ago11:39
jon_yand yes I understand we can't all have nice things11:39
* silviof sit 50km away ^^11:41
jon_ysilviof: get some for me :)11:41
jon_yI am roughly 40% of the world away11:43
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jonwilFinally decided to buy a new battery for my N900 to see if it would improve the dismal battery life I am getting as of late11:48
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: 60 >bad-bad-or-not.txt11:51
jonwilwhat should I be looking for in the results?11:53
jonwilThe one I bought isn't a genuine Nokia (no Nokia markings or hologram) but that doesn't mean its junk11:54
DocScrutinizer05the difference in CAC/NAC mAh from start to end of battery cycle11:54
DocScrutinizer05while the absolute numbers of NAC are maybe off, the difference is *very* exact and tells you about how much capacity your cell really been able to provide11:56
jonwilworst comes to worst, I am out the $50 I paid for it :P11:57
DocScrutinizer05wut? 50 bucks for a bl-5j battery?11:58
jonwilThats Australian prices12:00
jonwilremember stuff costs more in Australia12:00
jonwilplus I wanted one that I could buy locally rather than having to wait weeks for one to arrive from feebay or somewhere12:01
jonwillocal means I have recourse under Australian consumer laws if something bad happens12:02
jonwilanyhow I have it now so with luck, my battery life will improve12:04
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jonwilI have running in the background now and will let it run until the battery starts to get close to empty then look at the results12:07
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jonwilso I should be looking at the difference between the NAC value at full battery and the NAC value at empty to determine how much life I am getting out of the new battery?13:02
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zammyhow to register a not-registered sip account?13:06
zammyI have a voipcheap account...13:06
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wndwhat's a no[nt]-registered sip account?13:53
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: exactly13:59
jonwilok, WTF, the mA figure from seems to be jumping around a LOT, going from as low as -9 to as high as -194 or more13:59
jonwilIs that normal?13:59
jonwilI guess it depends on exactly what the system is doing at the point happens to take a sample point14:00
DocScrutinizer05kinda, yes14:00
DocScrutinizer05it's already averaged over the last 2.56s iirc14:00
jonwilanyhow, the ultimate answer on the new battery is how long it lasts in day-to-day use14:01
DocScrutinizer05the actual "noise" in electric current consumption is even higher than what you see from bq2720014:01
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zammyI am trying with a voip14:01
zammyon website it says how to...14:02
zammybut.. still did not get14:02
zammy under software configuration14:02
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zammyDocScrutinizer05, what suggest?14:10
zammyhave italian pattern of that... that says "Da registrare"14:11
zammyas account14:11
zammyall accounts I have says "Activated"14:12
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DocScrutinizer05so what#s the problem?14:37
DocScrutinizer05when you got "activated" and green point, then you logged in to the SIP registrar successfully, and you should be able to receive a call from outside to the landline phone number you got from voipcheap14:40
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DocScrutinizer05when somebody calls that number, then voipcheap registrar sends an INVITE message to your client and the client should answer OK and start ringing14:42
DocScrutinizer05however when you're behind a NAT, you might face some problems and might have to open a few ports, particularly for SIP (5060) and STUN (often 10000)14:43
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DocScrutinizer05some NATs never realy work with SIP14:44
DocScrutinizer05some start to work when you *disable* VoIP support on your router14:45
DocScrutinizer05many carriers block SIP on their GSM networks14:45
DocScrutinizer05even more of them do stateful packet inspection and traffic shaping, resulting in unbearable jitter and delay or complete breakdown of the SIP-VoIP RTP streams14:47
DocScrutinizer05generally 2G doesn't work great with SIP14:47
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DocScrutinizer05often it helps to change port5060 (SIP) to e.g. 5062 or 506414:49
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DocScrutinizer05when you want to run multiple clients behind a router-NAT with port-forwarding enabled, then you even need to change the SIP port for some of the clients, they can't share on public IP:port address14:51
DocScrutinizer05I'm running 5 clients behind a dual-layered NAT stack here, with, and all 5 clients work flawlessly14:51
DocScrutinizer05this however took me quite some fiddling with the 2 NATs involved14:52
DocScrutinizer05zammy|Away: what's your router?14:53
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DocScrutinizer05zammy|Away: more generally: how do you connect to the internet, and what's involved in that route?14:54
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zammy|AwayDocScrutinizer05, I am with wifi15:17
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zammymy router is a normal router15:17
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zammynono I am simply in wifi... no 2g or 3g... and no NAT... ofc I configured as in guide of voipcheap... including stun... it's all fine15:19
zammyit should work fine15:20
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zammybut idk how to test the incoming calls... btw... what's the problem is that it says "to register"15:24
zammythat means it's not fully enabled voip account15:24
Maxdamantusif your "router" is a normal "router", you're going to be behind NAT.15:25
DocScrutinizer05zammy: sorry, there's no such thing like "internet via WLAN without NAT" or "normal router"15:26
zammyI mean it's rightly preconfigured15:26
zammywith that port open15:26
DocScrutinizer05no way15:26
MaxdamantusWell, there's nothing technically preventing the former from existing.15:26
zammyI check15:27
Maxdamantusbut it's highly unlikely that there's no NAT, other than perhaps for IPv6 addresses.15:27
Maxdamantus(especially on a WLAN)15:27
MaxdamantusNAT is just a workaround to problems with practical address allocation within the tiny space of only four billion.15:30
jon_ydoes n900 do ipv6 wlan?15:31
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Maxdamantusit seems to be enabled in the cssu kernel at least.15:32
jon_yzammy: you can confirm by checking your address at ipchicken.com15:32
jon_yvs what the n900 reports15:32
jon_yif different, NAT is involved15:32
MaxdamantusI'll give my N900 an IPv6 address.15:32
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jon_yI'm lucky enough to get ipv615:33
jon_ythough ISP doesn't want anybody knowing about it strangely15:33
jon_ynot a 6to4 or anything like that, a real ipv6 address15:34
zammydifferent port15:34
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zammyRemote Port15:34
zammythat's different15:34
zammyofc browser too15:35
jon_yno, I mean the ip address15:35
zammythat's the same15:35
jon_ysame ip address?15:35
jon_yif so, NAT is not involved15:35
zammyI know what's nat15:35
zammyI know what's IP address15:36
zammyyou could ask15:36
jon_ywell, the question was about NAT earlier15:36
zammyI am behind an italian normal router...15:36
zammyI was wondering just about firewall15:37
jon_yreverse polish router15:37
jon_ytry netcat and some port test websites15:38
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* Maxdamantus wonders why it's not working :(15:44
Maxdamantus# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding15:45
Maxdamantusmight be a problem.15:45
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* Maxdamantus wonders if he should set up an IPv6 DHCP some time.15:47
* Maxdamantus wonders if people are meant to use DHCP with IPv6.15:47
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jon_yMaxdamantus: you can15:48
Maxdamantusyeah, of course.15:48
jon_ypoint to ipv6 dns6415:48
Maxdamantusbut .. some of the points of IPv6 go against some of the points of DHCP.15:48
jon_ybut a purer ipv6!15:49
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jon_yI think freeBSD did some pure ipv6 stack for fun15:50
Maxdamantus02:50:49 [Freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Max[n900]: irssi v0.8.14 - running on Linux armv7l15:50
jon_yor was it openBSD15:50
DocScrutinizer05zammy: so your DSL provider assigns multiple IPs to you, when you have multiple clients logged in to your WLAN? that's unique15:51
jon_ywell dhcp relays do exist15:51
jon_ykind of rare15:51
zammythat's correct not unique15:51
Max[n900]zammy: so to answer your question: yes, fairly easily, at least with the CSSU kernel.15:52
Max[n900]I think it was something added there.15:52
Max[n900]but I also seem to have ping6 and traceroute6 from somewhere.15:52
DocScrutinizer05zammy: well, then you should be able to tell me that IP and I could give you a direct-IP2IP SIP call15:53
zammylet's see15:53
Max[n900]maybe they've been bundling them with ping/traceroute for ages.15:53
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DocScrutinizer05well, actually you also need to tell me the "user" in your SIP client, or I can't address you correctly and the client will reject the INVITE15:53
DocScrutinizer05since when your user is "zammy" then a call to root@ will get rejected by your SIP client15:54
Max[n900]zammy: does your name refer to Zammarok from RuneScape by any chance?15:54
Max[n900]just wondering.15:54
DocScrutinizer05zammy: you seem to still haven't answered my question what's your problem with SIP, specifically15:55
Maxdamantusjon_y: you shouldn't need a relay of any kind.15:58
Maxdamantusjon_y: I meant just a usual DHCP setup.15:58
jon_yI don't know, I've seen routers with dhcp relay options15:58
Maxdamantusmy router has 2001:470:f078:1234::1/64 on wlan0, it could run a DHCP server that allocates 2001:470:f078:1234:<1..ffff>::/8015:59
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Maxdamantushmm .. but DHCP doesn't normally allocate ranges.16:01
MaxdamantusI think there is a modified protocol for IPv6 .. maybe that includes a second prefix mast, for the subnet allocated to that machine.16:02
warfareMaxdamantus: man radvd16:02
MaxdamantusNo manual entry for radvd16:03
Maxdamantusrouter advertisement daemon16:03
DocScrutinizer05zammy: your port 5060 is filtered, while port 22 is open16:03
Maxdamantusso it's like RIP or something, but for IPv6?16:03
Maxdamantusoh, not necessarily IPv6.16:03
zammyfirewall damn16:03
warfareMaxdamantus: you need either this for IPv6 autoconfig to work or a dhcpv6 server.16:04
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DocScrutinizer05firewall is even worse than NAT for SIP16:04
Maxdamantusah, so IPv6 already has an autoconfig thing.16:04
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DocScrutinizer05hi warfare16:07
warfareMaxdamantus: Yep. Thats's what you need radvd for. radvd announces the available prefixes on the link (usually a /64) which clients can use to build their IPv6 address.16:07
warfarehi DocScrutinizer05 :)16:07
zammytry now DocScrutinizer0516:07
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zammymaybe I should reboot the router16:08
DocScrutinizer05PORT     STATE    SERVICE16:08
DocScrutinizer055060/tcp filtered sip16:08
DocScrutinizer05errr, dang16:08
DocScrutinizer05SIP is UDP16:08
zammy5060 is in UPD?16:10
zammy3478 is in tcp?16:10
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zammyI have set 5060 as tcp16:11
zammytry now please DocScrutinizer0516:12
DocScrutinizer05sorry, SIP is UDP16:12
DocScrutinizer05I can test if 5060:tcp has changed...16:12
DocScrutinizer05which it hasn't16:12
DocScrutinizer05but for now I forgot how to test UDP ports16:13
DocScrutinizer05in N900 client you could select TCP for your account, which will probably break with voipcheap but should expose to the IP16:14
zammynow it's in UPD16:15
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DocScrutinizer05well, then give your landline number at voipcheap a call16:17
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DocScrutinizer05and don't forget to open up the ports for RTP as suggested by voipcheap16:18
DocScrutinizer05some providers suggest 5004..5007, some suggest 10000..100316:18
DocScrutinizer0510003 even16:19
zammywhat's RTP?16:19
infobotrtp is probably The Internet-standard protocol for the transport of real-time data, including audio and video. RTP is used in virtually all voice-over-IP architectures, for videoconferencing, media-on-demand, and other applications. A thin protocol, it supports content identification, timing reconstruction, and detection of lost packets.16:19
DocScrutinizer05assuming we're talking about fremantle SIP: I got [x]"use for phone calls"; "transport: UDP" ("auto" should work as well, probably); out-proxy:""; port:"5062" (you want to keep 5060 probably); "[x] detect public addr"; "[x] loose routing"; "keep-alive- method: auto"; "keep-alive-interval: 1min";  "[x] auto-STUN-detect"16:26
DocScrutinizer05make sure your "normal router" has no SIP related functions enabled, neither a phone connector nor any Application Layer Gateway16:27
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DocScrutinizer05zammy: also note that fremantle SIP config dialog has a bug: once you entered and saved a display-name for an account, you can't clear it anymore, since completely deleting the content gets ignored by the dialog. You need to create a new account when you want empty display-name16:37
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zammythanks this maybe usefull really16:38
DocScrutinizer05zammy: once your port 5060 works, the INVITE should already work, making your N900 start ringing on inbound SIP calls. When RTP ports are blocked, that shows when you pick up the call and it stalls or breaks down or has no sound16:38
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DocScrutinizer05zammy: pro-tip: google for exact model name of your router, plus "SIP VoIP"16:41
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zammybtw no changes...16:43
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DocScrutinizer05zammy: you'll want to use "[ ] auto-STUN detection"; STUN-server:""; STUN-port:"3478"16:48
zammyI ve done that16:49
DocScrutinizer05and you might want to temporarily disable your router#s firewall completely until your SIP config is OK16:49
zammynot editing just creating like that16:49
zammyI can't disable the router firewall16:49
zammyI already tried16:49
DocScrutinizer05so maybe create an open range of port-UDP:1000-6553516:51
zammyor maybe lower range16:51
DocScrutinizer05ok, I helped as much as I know to do, rest is up to you. Particularly since you can't come up with type of router you#re using16:53
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sombragrishi there17:11
sombragrisquestion: which is the best RSS reader for the N900 ?17:11
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sombragrisI just tried the default RSS reader and found it disappointing to say the least17:11
sombragrislooking around in fapman I saw feedingIT, penguinreader, Resistance, and feedcircuit17:12
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sombragriszammy: thanks :)17:20
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DocScrutinizer05zammy: really? why would you want to use that?17:25
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DocScrutinizer05it seems to me this service is not meant to get any inbound calls17:29
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DocScrutinizer05(except from other voipcheap users who "type your name")17:29
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DocScrutinizer05IOW it doesn't look like a comprehemsive phone service to me17:30
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DocScrutinizer05more like a skype-competitor17:31
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honestlycan someone help me to get N900-rescueOS running?20:26
honestlyI need a kernel to load20:26
honestlydocumentation.txt doesn't tell me where to get / how to build one...20:27
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honestly seems pretty incomplete...20:34
hxkaWhat happened to your flashed kernel?20:39
hxka> flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.3720:40
hxkaI can clearly see that file here:
freemangordonit also needs initrd20:41
hxkaYeah, obviously, I just copied the part regarding the kernel20:42
freemangordonaccording to
freemangordonflasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0"20:42
freemangordonI don;t really see something missing here20:42
honestlyyeah I just got the stuff from
honestlybut there was zero reference to that in the repository...20:44
honestlythe rescueOS-1.x.img is the initrd I suppose?20:45
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honestlydo I need to put my n900 into flashing mode?20:46
honestly("hold u, connect cable")20:47
hxkaI dunno where that "hold u" comes from20:47
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hxkaJust run the flasher and connect the cable20:47
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honestly...holding u before booting puts the n900 into flashing mode...20:47
freemangordonyep, you need that20:47
freemangordon(hold 'u')20:48
NIN101not necessarily.20:48
honestlydoes the u-boot console have a command to shut off the device?20:50
freemangordonNIN101: hmm? how is flasher supposed to boot a kernel if the device is not in flash mode?20:52
freemangordonhonestly: no, only to reset it20:52
freemangordonjust remove the battery :)20:52
honestlyError claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy20:53
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NIN101freemangordon: I was refering to "hold u". That isn't necessary.20:55
NIN101honestly: run it as root.20:55
honestlyI am running it as root.20:56
honestlythere really was a cdc_phonet module.20:56
honestlyI'm in \o/20:57
honestlydoes rescueOS come with fsck?20:57
freemangordonNIN101: yes, I know what you're refering to. how the flasher will succeed to boot the kernel if the device is not in update mode?20:57
NIN101freemangordon: I never used "hold u". I turn it off, run the flasher, connect the usb cable and it boots. Everything always worked automatically.20:59
hxkaWhat NIN101 said.20:59
freemangordonhmm, weird, but ok :)20:59
NIN101honestly: yes, it has fsck21:01
honestlybut not for vfat apparently :F21:02
freemangordonhonestly: hmm, iirc there is dosfsck21:04
Siceloa quick aside, does anyone have the link on wiki which shows the closed/non-free components of maemo? lost the bookmark21:05
infobotrumour has it, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see
freemangordonSicelo: ^^^21:06
honestlyfreemangordon: yeah, I expected it to be fsck.something21:07
honestly~$ dosfsck -n /dev/mmcblk0p121:07
honestlyCP437: Invalid argument21:07
Sicelothanks freemangordon21:08
honestlyso the rootfs isn't actually on /dev/mmc0p*21:10
honestlyis there a way to fsck the rootfs?21:10
hxkaubifs doesn't have an fsck21:10
honestlymy problem is that when I boot my n900 normally, it gets stuck on the "flashing lights" forever.21:11
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freemangordonhonestly: anything in syslog?21:12
honestlyso my goals right now are 1) pull a backup of everything off of the device and then 2) try to fix the problem, by reflash if possible21:12
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hxkaIf you see "flashing lights" your rootfs is at least mounting21:12
honestly/mnt/maemo/var/log/lastlog is 8.4M of gibberish21:13
freemangordonhonestly: hmm?21:13
freemangordonrm it21:13
NIN101I recommend mass-storage mode to create a backup.21:14
freemangordontry to boot again, if it still fails, boot to rescueos and check what is in syslog21:14
honestlywhat file is syslog supposed to be in?21:14
freemangordonhonestly: what is "gibberish" supposed to mean?21:14
freemangordonhonestly: plain text21:15
honestlyas in filename21:15
honestlythere is no /var/log/syslog21:15
freemangordondo you have syslogd installed?21:15
honestlyI don't know.21:15
honestlyso probably not.21:15
honestlynope, nothing there21:16
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honestlyshould I be able to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1?21:21
honestlymount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /mnt/free1 failed: Input/output error21:21
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NIN101try with -t ext321:23
honestlyp1 is vfat21:23
Siceloi have never seen a /var/log/lastlog on N90021:23
honestlyaccording to blkid...21:24
honestlyah well21:24
NIN101true, sorry21:24
honestly-t vfat appears to have worked21:24
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honestlyalright, I pulled everything off21:51
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honestlynow how can I debug this further?21:52
honestlyany way to get more log output?21:53
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freemangordonhonestly: do you have any way to boot maemo?22:00
freemangordonwith rd flags or something?22:00
honestlyI have a working uboot22:01
honestlyand the kernels seem to be mostly fine22:01
honestlyhow would I go about booting into maemo?22:01
freemangordonhonestly:  the point is - can you install syslogd22:01
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freemangordonNIN101: is it possible to chroot to maemo rootfs from rescueos?22:02
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freemangordonand use dpkg from there?22:02
freemangordonhonestly: you can try ^^^22:02
freemangordonklog and syslog packages are in sdk repo22:03
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freemangordonyou can wget them and somehow copy them to the device, chroot and dpkg22:04
freemangordonnot sure i that wouldwork though22:04
honestlytrying to set up networking22:05
honestlythere we go, got networking22:09
NIN101yes, it's possible to chroot into maemo...22:11
FIQsorry if this is a stupid question, but is there a reason to why you don't just reflash? :p22:11
NIN101honestly, also keep an eye on your battery.22:11
honestlyis it enough to just chroot?22:12
honestlysince dpkg shouldn't need anything from /proc etc22:12
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honestlyseems the chroot was more or less successful22:18
honestlyrescueos:/# apt-get install syslogd22:18
honestlyE: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/22:18
honestlyE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.22:18
honestlyhmm, need to mount opt I guess22:19
honestlynow it can't find any syslogd package22:21
honestlywhat repo do I need for that?22:21
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honestlyseems like I only have this in my sources (in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list):22:37
honestlydeb fremantle free non-free22:37
honestlydeb fremantle-1.3 free non-free22:37
honestlydeb fremantle-1.3 free non-free22:37
honestlyshouldn't that work?22:37
honestlyit actually results in W: Conflicting distribution: fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got )22:38
freemangordonhonestly: don;t use apt22:40
freemangordonapt-get that is22:40
freemangordonuse wget and dpkg22:40
freemangordon/var/cache/apt/ is symlink to /opt/var/cache/apt/ or so, not mounted22:41
honestlyI mounted it22:41
honestlyapt-get is working fine now22:41
honestlyI just need to add the right repo22:41
freemangordonthose are in either SDK or tools repo22:42
silvioffreemangordon: its not the package on the link I have posted?22:42
freemangordonsilviof: it is22:42
freemangordonbut it needs klogd too22:43
honestlywhat dependencies do I need except klogd?22:43
honestlyklogd is right there22:43
freemangordonnothing else iirc22:43
honestlySetting up klogd (1.5-5maemo7+0m5) ...22:44
honestlyinitctl: Unable to send message: Connection refused22:44
honestlySetting up sysklogd (1.5-5maemo7+0m5) ...22:44
honestlyinitctl: Unable to send message: Connection refused22:44
honestlycan I ignore the warnings?22:44
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honestlyis there anything I need to do other than reboot?22:48
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honestlywell, looks like I have a syslog.23:06
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honestlythis is the last screenful:
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honestlyand now I can't plug in the usb cable to charge it without it trying to boot...23:16
FIQthe N900 must boot up for charging to work23:17
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honestlybut it isn't supposed to boot up into gui mode, is it?23:17
honestlyit's never done that before anyway23:17
FIQit loads the dots and then switches the screen off yes23:18
FIQnot exactly sure what it actually does in charging mode23:18
honestlymine gets stuck on the dots23:18
FIQbut it always did like this for me23:18
FIQi.e. startup, flashing yellow light, sudden green light followed by no power for the LED at all, screen turns on, shows dots, then turns off after a few seconds and the RGB led starts flashing yellow23:19
FIQand done23:19
honestlyplug in cable, it turns on, slow flashing yellow light, the dots appear23:20
FIQhonestly: but if you have a working rescueOS, that might be able to charge your device (disclaimer: never used rescueOS)23:20
honestlyI do23:20
honestlyI'll probably need to do that23:20
honestlyI don't have a full-power charging adapter though23:21
honestlywell I think it should be charging now23:21
honestlyyellow light flashing slowly, dots running23:21
FIQsounds ok, but I dunno since I'm not in your situation :p23:21
FIQ(and I actually have an external charger so I don't use N900 for charging directly in first place anyway23:22
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