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| Maxdamantus | weird .. is the usual 2.6.28 kernel known to be problematic with g_file_storage with 64 GiB devices? | 03:15 |
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| Maxdamantus | [351556.174106] Buffer I/O error on device sdf, logical block 7078910 | 03:15 |
| Maxdamantus | [351557.729225] sdg: detected capacity change from 63864569856 to 0 | 03:15 |
| Maxdamantus | (from the host) | 03:15 |
| Maxdamantus | I seem to be able to dd the SD card fine on the phone. | 03:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: sounds like IO-error, iow a bad block on card or a glitch in interface | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe simply overheating? | 05:20 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, I noticed it happens on my laptop as well. | 05:20 |
| Maxdamantus | but I can copy it with dd on the phone, laptop, and a USB card reader. | 05:21 |
| Maxdamantus | are MicroSD cards known to cause block errors when overheating? | 05:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all electronics are known to fail when overheating | 05:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except some very special designs that rather fail when too cold ;-) | 05:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one more pupular example: sulfur battery | 05:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | popular* | 05:27 |
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| Maxdamantus | maybe I should've said "from" instead of "when". | 05:28 |
| Maxdamantus | like .. how do you overheat a harddrive? | 05:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? easily | 05:29 |
| Maxdamantus | it would probably be fairly uncommon for HDs to fail from overheating. | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | au contraire | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are towers with dedicated fans for the HDD slots | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I fail to see how's that related to a uSD stopping to work because it exceeded maximum operating temperature | 05:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | of course such failure will regularly show as IO-error | 05:32 |
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| silviof | Hi, the three toolchains "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7", "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486" and the thumb-tc are state of the art for the n900? | 08:32 |
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| silviof | ... or exists somewhere newer toolchains | 08:34 |
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| silviof | uu - and what are the main developing repositories? maemo.gito... or gito../community-ssu? | 08:50 |
| silviof | ... and exists a script where I can download all repositories (or maybe a repositorie with all reps as submodules)? | 08:52 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hmm .. does the device normally turn off while it's at the uboot shell after a few seconds? | 11:37 |
| Maxdamantus | is it because of one of the watchdogs? | 11:37 |
| kerio | possibly | 11:38 |
| Maxdamantus | it's about 20s in | 11:38 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, disabling all three of the "auto reboot" things fixed it. | 11:41 |
| Maxdamantus | disabling only the "OMAP watchdog" didn't. | 11:41 |
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| kerio | why do you need to "fix" that | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, afaik uBoot should tickle the watchdogs | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not sure about it | 13:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | though, you could actually start to question the usefulness of those watchdogs anyway | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in the end what else do they do than rebooting the device - sth I should be able to do myself via long press of power button any time | 13:09 |
| Ashley` | <DocScrutinizer05> though, you could actually start to question the usefulness of those watchdogs anyway | 13:09 |
| Ashley` | ++ | 13:09 |
| Ashley` | For me, they never rebooted my device when they should. | 13:10 |
| Ashley` | Only when for example, installing packages with pacman, etc. | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, when your device locks up for obscure reasons while in your pocket, you may miss events like inbound calls and timer alarms | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: when *should* they reboot? | 13:12 |
| Ashley` | <DocScrutinizer05> sure, when your device locks up for obscure reasons while in your pocket, you may miss events like inbound calls and timer alarms | 13:12 |
| Ashley` | for example :P | 13:12 |
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| Ashley` | There should be a way to disable it and enable easily | 13:12 |
| Ashley` | without R&D etc | 13:12 |
| Ashley` | But I don't know if that's possible | 13:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: did that ever happen to you? | 13:13 |
| Ashley` | nope | 13:13 |
| Ashley` | so for me they're unuseful :P | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so, how can you say the WDs never rebooted when they should? | 13:13 |
| Ashley` | I meant, they rebooted my device, but only when I didn't want to | 13:14 |
| Ashley` | (muh english :s) | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if you can set flags via softupd and maemo generic flasher | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe even pretty straight forward via libcal | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | resp calvaria | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then otoh I guess there IS a way to stop a WD. A generic linux way | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and definitely there's a way to *start* WDs | 13:17 |
| Ashley` | hm? (I was asking for disabling them some time ago, and people told me that it's possible only in R&D) | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, stoppig the WD is one thing. Stopping the kernel and whatelse to tickle (and thus restart) WDs is another thing | 13:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in /dev there's twl4030_wdt and watchdog | 13:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea where's the bb5-based watchdog (assuming there must be one) | 13:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | umm, maybe there isn't? | 13:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is lifeguard the BB5 modem? | 13:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think lifeguard is dsme | 13:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm actually not sure if the modem ever uses the reset line it has into CPU | 13:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | The watchdog is automatically started once you open ‘/dev/watchdog’. To stop the watchdog, you will need to: | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Write character ‘V’ into ‘/dev/watchdog’ to prevent stopping the watchdog accidentally | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Close the ‘/dev/watchdog’ file | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | An exception on stopping the watchdog by closing the file is when ‘CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT’ is enabled in your kernel configuration. When this option is enabled, the watchdog cannot be stopped at all. Hence, you will need to feed / kick it all the time or it will reset the system | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | To kick or to feed the watchdog you can do it in two ways: | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Write any character into ‘/dev/watchdog’. You can write any character into /dev/watchdog, but, my suggestion, don’t write ‘V’ character (See the ‘Starting-Stopping Watchdog’ point above) | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Use IOCTL to insert ‘WDIOC_KEEPALIVE’ value. | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://embeddedfreak.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/howto-use-linux-watchdog/ | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I can't spot any process holding a file handle to 7dev/watchdog or /dev/twl4030_wdt | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lsof doesn't show any open handles to those | 13:45 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Ah, I found what's missing in CSSU-S to get the headset button working on OMP. | 19:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | policy-settings-rx51 0.4.10.8+0m5 | 19:02 |
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| pari42 | does any one know where i can get system images for the n810? | 20:47 |
| pari42 | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php | 20:47 |
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| silviof | freemangordon: is the kernel development going on a separate mailinglist? or alkml? | 22:25 |
| silviof | Hi, the three toolchains "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7", "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486" and the thumb-tc are state of the art for the n900? | 22:25 |
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