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| jpinx | in my n900, when I change the simcard, it does not update the sms messages received. How can I fix that ? | 08:18 |
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| joga | ah, got another n900, now I can rest more easy | 12:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: that's a problem of your carrier. Not much your phone can do about it | 14:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sender of SMs even can define an expiration date. AFAIK it can be as short as 6h, after which time an SMS gets discarded when not already sent to destination | 14:09 |
| jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: sorry -- not sure what you mean -- the SMS is stored on the simcard in my old samsung phone, but when I put that simcard into the n900 the message is not retrievable | 14:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, SMS on SIM, that's not supported anymore nowadays | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | N900 has a way to import SMS from SIM | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if there actually are any | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SMS are regularly stored on phone storage nowadays, not on SIM storage | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | most SIM can't store more than maybe 10 SMS | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 15 years ago the phone signalled "SMS storage full" - that's not happening anymore | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except for totally cheap feature phones | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modern SIM may have storage for more SMS, but most phones don't use it | 14:14 |
| jpinx | ok -- how to get the sms from the sim into the n900 ? :) | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there must be a menu entry in conversations app | 14:15 |
| jpinx | nothing in the menu | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe aunt google may help | 14:15 |
| jpinx | been looking in all the obvious places and googling for days | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 14:16 |
| jpinx | one comment told me that the n900 has no such facility | 14:16 |
| jpinx | but that was a few years old | 14:16 |
| jpinx | so I thought someone might have "fixed" it | 14:16 |
| jpinx | but I guess if you don't know - it doesn't exist :( | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=385779#385779 | 14:18 |
| jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: yep - saw that one -- it's the one that says there's no way | 14:19 |
| jpinx | dated 2011 -- "Well, that's the problem. On the N900 there is currently no way to access SIM card's SMS storage. It simply isn't in any way implemented in the system... SIM card's Contacts can be accessed, but not messages. " | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, when BB5 modem ISI interface has no way to read data (SMS) from SIM, then your SOL | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt anybody could "fix" that | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'll have to use a SIMcardreader | 14:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | those have direct access to the SIM and thus for sure can read out the SMS from card | 14:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | importing the SMS to N900 is another story | 14:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the BB5 Rapuyama modem is pretty much crippled in a number of aspects | 14:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can talk to it via pnatd and "ATxxxx" 'Hayes' commands, but it doesn't understand most of them | 14:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah yes, I see, there's only "import *contacts* from SIM" | 14:25 |
| jpinx | ok -- thanks for looking over the issue :) | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they didn't bother about SMS | 14:26 |
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| jpinx | I'll need to find another solution | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and community can't "fix" that, since modem most likely doesn't support | 14:27 |
| jpinx | yes - if it's hardware I'm scunnered | 14:27 |
| jpinx | I'll try some other phones and maybe copy the sms into a file that can be simply copied | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are cheap-like-dirt SMS card readers to plug to PC's USB | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIM card readers* | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, sure. Many other phones can access SIM via AT interface | 14:28 |
| jpinx | though I admit to being dismayed that older mthods are made redundant so easily | 14:29 |
| joga | how "stable" is cssu testing? | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see gnokii, or kandy (linux apps) | 14:29 |
| joga | ie. is it recommended for normal use | 14:29 |
| jpinx | hope the "new" n900 will have that fixed :) | 14:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 modem has a complete comprehensive AT command set support | 14:30 |
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| jpinx | good good :) | 14:30 |
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| jpinx | I have 2 N900's to "trade in" ;) | 14:31 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | joga: please clarify "normal use" | 14:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there are stable and testing version for a reason. | 14:34 |
| joga | yeah, in this case it wouldn't be very critical as it's a spare phone, I'm just thinking if you people use it daily | 14:35 |
| joga | but I already clicked on stable so I'll go with it for now :) | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is we don't have a cssu-experimental, or cssu-revolution | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so many updates go to cssu-t even when they don't scratch any itch | 14:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | this may result in stuff like filesystem corruption thanks to some new patch tries to handle uSD cards with multiple partitions and thus recovery from unclean shutdown got "fixed to death" (arbitrary made-up example) | 14:39 |
| joga | ok | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the record, I stopped updating cssu-t on my daily phone, some 3 or 4 releases back | 14:40 |
| joga | the one I've used for the past years has been pretty static since I did a few hundred modifications and there was nothing else to do heh | 14:41 |
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| joga | with this other phone I guess I'll try to keep things a bit simpler for now, the usual tweaks and progs etc | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | go for cssu-s | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it might still be stable, like it says | 14:43 |
| joga | ye, going | 14:43 |
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| jaska | i have some ancient cssu manually installed from various debs.. to avoid hitting my custom libvte and xterm :| | 14:48 |
| jaska | i trimmed all useless junk ui parts from xterm etc | 14:48 |
| jaska | and minimized padding | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a pity. I just thought "Freon" was a nice name for the fremantle-for Neon (Neo900 board) distro. But it's actually [TM] and not a nice substance either | 14:52 |
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| b1101 | my n900 was delivered yesterday. Time to go pick it up :D | 15:46 |
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| kerio | b1101: yay | 16:38 |
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| SAiF | can somebody help me with a messed up due to 'dd command' folder ? | 17:19 |
| SAiF | I could see all the contents while navigating through GUI, but not through CLI, and also that folder shows it uses 113GB. | 17:23 |
| SAiF | I cannot play videos or copy files. But its there.. Anybody have any idea? | 17:23 |
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| SAiF | never mind.. got it. | 17:44 |
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| b1101 | ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. | 18:18 |
| SAiF | waiting again.. aahh.. | 18:19 |
| b1101 | I'll keep my self busy coding until then. | 18:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, the tricks of relatives to make you visit them | 18:54 |
| Ashley` | ? | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-01-17 17:18:02] <b1101> ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. | 18:58 |
| b1101 | I'm going to drink with him tomorrow, followed by setting up my n900 when I get home | 19:08 |
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