IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2013-12-15

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GeneralAntillesI totally forgot to vote.02:28
GeneralAntillesGo me.02:28
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M4rtinKwell, I actually remembered at about 23:5002:49
M4rtinKafter a few previous alarms I've set sounded when I was too busy to vote02:50
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Kabouik_Hey there03:11
Kabouik_I'm trying to install CSSU Thumb using the wiki, but I got a "no handler configured  x-install-instruction (.install)" error when clicking on the "stable" link with Maemo03:12
Kabouik_With MicroB sorry03:12
Kabouik_What should I do so that MicroB properly triggers the application manager?03:12
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amonkIs there a way to determine the cellular frequency currently in use on the Nokia N900?03:27
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Ori_hi guys, i own a n900, im new to it, i just need to find a way to make my phone beep when i receive a facebook notification, facebook widget is nice but i didnt hear any beep, i know its random but just wondering if anyone knows03:39
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nox-i think its somewhere in settings, notify on im messages... (or maybe that was only for the led?)03:51
Ori_when i touch the settings icon it just lets me see my login info03:52
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nox-i mean the n900 settings not the fb ones04:02
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nox-(unless fb doesnt count as im)04:03
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DocScrutinizer05Kabouik_: strange. please ask in #maemo-ssu04:10
Kabouik_DocScrutinizer05 thanks. Apparently I already had enabled CSSU testing repositories earlier, maybe that was the issue. Actually I have not used my N900 in several years, I don't remember what is installed and which tweaks I applied04:11
Ori_nox i think it was only for the led04:11
Kabouik_But it appears apt-get is totally messed up, and apt-get -f install won't solve it, so...04:12
DocScrutinizer05Kabouik_: then I suggest full of PR1.3.104:12
DocScrutinizer05prior to installing CSSU04:12
nox-Ori_, hm ok04:13
Kabouik_I have it already, and clean install totally depresses me04:13
DocScrutinizer05well, we can't give support for installing CSSU on random messed up system04:13
Kabouik_I will take so long to install all apps I had, reformat partitions, bleeding edge drivers, QBW widget to totally reconfigure... I know I won't do it unfortunately04:13
Kabouik_Yes I know, not asking04:13
Kabouik_Just disappointed to discover that the system seems messed up04:14
Kabouik_I'll probably do a fresh install someday, but my main concern is I totally forgot how I set up my multiboots. Don't remember if it is uboot, multiboot, or anything, compatible kernels, and I'm afraid I will lose everything04:16
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infobotsomebody said maemo-multiboot was deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED04:29
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amonkKabouik_: apt needs to be pointed to the equivalent resources at
amonk... and still hoping someone will address this: "Is there a way to determine the cellular frequency currently in use on the Nokia N900?" :)05:15
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DocScrutinizer05amonk: see netmon06:30
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wmarone__hmm, this openmoko lives09:09
wmarone__and is running an ancient build of android09:09
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DocScrutinizer05sorry, IT service time (local). I might miss highlights and/or channels I'm supposed to have joined10:02
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infobotDocScrutinizer05: thanks10:45
zamn900~botsuck lollipop10:47
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SAiFhe dont like lollipop10:48
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DocScrutinizer05~listkeys lolli11:02
infobotFactoid search of 'lolli' by key (1): cmd: lollipop (.*?).11:02
DocScrutinizer05~lollipop zamn90011:02
infobotHere, suck on this, zamn90011:02
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DocScrutinizer05~wtf xd11:04
infobotGee...  I don't know what xd means...11:04
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DocScrutinizer05  maybe?11:10
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amonkDocScrutinizer05: Thanks, cool app, but netmon doesn't show the frequency in use.11:17
DocScrutinizer05it does: via channel11:18
DocScrutinizer05zammy: or raher this: ?11:18
zammyhaha -.-11:18
DocScrutinizer05btw I had to snapshot this pic from google, since the site is infested by XXX content you can't bypass or close11:20
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zammyagcom and google and corps are making puratanism11:21
DocScrutinizer05wow, this made me find
DocScrutinizer05which is working great it seems11:28
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DocScrutinizer05amonk: see
DocScrutinizer05amonk: and
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DocScrutinizer05channel number13:31
DocScrutinizer05amonk: IIRC netmon shows ARFCN/channel13:33
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DocScrutinizer05oops it doesn't13:38
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sixwheeledbeastSo I am back trying to work this out ssh keys are ok. From searching around I am thinking this will fix Seems fmg is offline :(14:01
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merlin1991sixwheeledbeast: you should drop all the files a folder higher14:07
merlin1991just like it says in
sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991: the fremantle/perl is a "/n" error I am not dropping in fremantle/perl14:09
merlin1991can you run it with scp -v and paste that14:10
merlin1991sixwheeledbeast: I see no -v in that command line ;)14:12
sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991: I am pastebining it now. mompls14:13
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sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991 ^^14:15
merlin1991sixwheeledbeast: I just checked your shell on the server, it is restritcted to git stuff14:17
sixwheeledbeastok so it can be changed? I have never used git.14:18
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merlin1991did you apply for extras uploader rights?14:19
merlin1991hm you're set as accepted on garage14:20
merlin1991seems the sync still is partly foobar14:20
merlin1991I'm going to give you your proper shell by hand14:20
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sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991 I applied years ago, I can only think something got screwed when testing autobuilder during migration.14:22
sixwheeledbeastextra-assistant works great but this file is too big so times out.14:22
merlin1991sixwheeledbeast: shell changed, happy uploading :)14:23
sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991: I'll test now ty very much14:23
sixwheeledbeastCool, uploading :)14:24
merlin1991btw you can use rsync aswell14:24
merlin1991but then again compressing a tar.gz again won't yield much effect :D14:25
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sixwheeledbeastExit status 0, so hopefully it will be in the queu soon :)14:26
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infobotpkg is probably
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bennypr0faneHello, this is an off-topic request for help because there are usually many experienced developers in here and I wouldn't know any better place to ask:21:17
bennypr0faneI'm trying to build a Debian program from source21:17
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bennypr0faneIt's transcriberAG, I want to install it on LMDE. It is not packaged as .deb, so I'm trying to isntall it21:19
bennypr0fane *compile from source21:19
bennypr0fane here I have a problem with gtkmm library: make cannot find gtkmm.h (it seems like that is the file with gtkmm development headers). searching for gtkmm, I find this page:
bennypr0fanethere is this mysterious line, saying: "#include <gtkmm.h>" I believe it is an instruction that might solve my problem, but I don't know how to apply it to what, I have no idea what it means21:19
bennypr0fane I'm not a developer and this is only like the 4-5th time I have ever tried compiling sth. from source. Maybe someone in here can help me?21:19
bennypr0fane(btw yes, I posted this in #lmde channel first, no reply...)21:20
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freemangordonbennypr0fane: try to install gtkmm-dev package21:21
freemangordonor maybe it is called libgtkmm-dev21:22
freemangordonbennypr0fane: or maybe it is libgtkmm-2.4-dev :)21:23
bennypr0fanefreemangordon: I have that installed. there are 2 different ones: libgtkmm-3.0-dev and  libgtkmm-2.4-dev I installed both21:23
freemangordonbennypr0fane: does the package you try to compile have build-depends section in its debian/control file?21:24
freemangordonit is not packaged21:24
bennypr0fanenot sure. I'm following the instructions here:
freemangordonbennypr0fane: hmm, weird21:26
bennypr0faneactually some guy seems to have had a similar problem:
freemangordonanyway, this is cmake, I am not familiar with it. but for sure the correct package you need is libmm-xx-dev21:27
freemangordonlibgtkmm-xx-dev that is21:27
bennypr0fane...but of course I don't understand what he did21:28
freemangordonoh, sorry21:28
freemangordonbennypr0fane: are there gtkmm-2.4 and gtkmm-30 folders in /usr/include?21:29
freemangordonbennypr0fane: also, could you pastebin the exact error you have21:30
bennypr0fanehere is the output I get from make:
bennypr0faneyes: these folders are present21:32
bennypr0fane~ $ cd /usr/include/gtkmm-2.421:32
bennypr0faneben@poidl-lmde /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 $ ls21:32
bennypr0fanegtkmm  gtkmm.h21:32
freemangordonbennypr0fane: try CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake21:34
freemangordonand make after that ofc :)21:34
bennypr0faneyou mean I should insert this line in the /usr/include/gtkmm-x.x/gtkmm.h file?21:35
bennypr0faneor run this line in terminal?21:36
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freemangordonno, I mean to run in terminal "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake" in the main project dir21:36
freemangordonwithout quotes :)21:36
freemangordondon;t toudch the files in /usr/include ;)21:37
bennypr0fanethe main project dir would be the one I extracted the tarball to, yes?21:37
freemangordonshould be21:37
freemangordonthe same place you run that cmake for the first time21:38
freemangordonhmm, did you run it actually?21:38
freemangordoncmake that is21:38
bennypr0faneyes I did21:39
freemangordonok, run ^^^ from the same place21:39
bennypr0fanethat's not the root of the tarball though21:39
freemangordonok, the step 4 from here
freemangordonshould be "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake"21:40
bennypr0fanefollowing those instructions, i first ran cmake in libs/build21:40
freemangordonwithout quotes21:40
freemangordonops, sorry21:41
freemangordonit should be "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake ../"21:41
freemangordonthe same for the step 821:41
bennypr0fanea question: why gtkmm-2.4 and not 3.0?21:41
freemangordonno idea :)21:41
freemangordontry with 3.0 if 2.4 fails21:41
bennypr0faneI have the Cinnamon desktop on this pc, which is GTK 3, I think?21:42
freemangordonbennypr0fane: the point is - it is a good idea to lower your dependencies, do not use newer libs if don;t need to21:42
bennypr0fanemaybe then it'd make sense to try 3.0 first? I'm just guessing21:42
freemangordonok, should not matter21:43
bennypr0fanesee there's one precious piece of developer knowledge21:43
bennypr0fanealright, trying now21:43
bennypr0fanethis looks like it succeeded:
freemangordonwell, make it first :)21:46
freemangordonbennypr0fane: step 5 that is21:47
freemangordonbennypr0fane: BTW if you have multiple cores, you may want to "make -jN" where N is the number of cores you have21:48
bennypr0fanehave 221:48
bennypr0faneit's faster?21:48
freemangordonyep. "make -j2"21:48
bennypr0faneI did make first, which produced like a dozen lines of output. then make -j2 in the same dir, couple pages of output. is that normal?21:50
freemangordondepends on what is written in the output :)21:50
freemangordon-j tells make to compile in parallel21:51
freemangordonor rather to start 2 compilers in parallel21:51
freemangordonit should be 2 times faster than without -j221:51
bennypr0faneveryvery long output :-(21:52
bennypr0fanethe compiling itself was definitely not faster21:52
bennypr0faneif that's what you mean21:52
bennypr0faneor you meant the execution of the program I'm running will be faster?21:53
freemangordonI mean the compilation21:53
bennypr0fanewell that took a lot longer21:53
freemangordonanyway, I guess you should report to the application developer21:53
freemangordon/home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/ error: cannot declare variable ‘handler’ to be of abstract type ‘SAX_AGHandlers’21:54
freemangordonIn file included from /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/
freemangordon/home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/SAX_AGHandlers.h:24:7: note:   because the following virtual functions are pure within ‘SAX_AGHandlers’:21:54
freemangordonIn file included from /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/SAX_AGHandlers.h:17:0,21:54
freemangordonfrom /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/
freemangordon/usr/include/xercesc/framework/XMLFormatter.hpp:454:18: note: virtual void xercesc_3_1::XMLFormatTarget::writeChars(const XMLByte*, XMLSize_t, xercesc_3_1::XMLFormatter*)21:54
bennypr0faneshould I try making the other dir first? and try to install?21:55
freemangordonthe build has failed21:55
bennypr0faneso I should attach these lines to the report? or the whole thing?21:56
freemangordonbennypr0fane: yep. or even better - attach the whole output21:57
bennypr0fanewill have to resort to using media player and LO writer then...21:58
bennypr0faneThank you so much for your time though!21:58
bennypr0fanegreatly appreciated21:58
freemangordonnp :)21:58
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amonkDocScrutinizer05: Thanks.  I've been looking to leverage some info like that into an answer too... not as much as I'd like (super busy), but still, and you just gave me the last piece of information to get at least a close to accurate frequency determination indicating that T-Mobile has already switched frequencies from AWS to PCS on the tower I'm using (which is what I wanted to know).  I also have a Nokia N9 and someone in #meego told me about a newish ap22:51
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