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| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: actually the man behind Neo900 is DocScrutinizer05 | 01:45 |
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| Gatta_Negra | :D | 01:45 |
| Gatta_Negra | he gave himself up unwillingly | 01:45 |
| Gatta_Negra | aaaan then willingly also | 01:46 |
| freemangordon | hmm? can't parse :) | 01:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | and i ca nnot type | 01:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | ne said he is | 01:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | i am sorry i am distracted | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | however, joerg_rw is DocScrutinizer05, check who started the thread on TMO http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | nevermind | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: on a serious note - what is the problem with microb? | 01:48 |
| freemangordon | I use it to browse desktop facebook with no problem | 01:49 |
| Gatta_Negra | sorry , problem with what? | 01:49 |
| Gatta_Negra | the browser? default one? | 01:49 |
| freemangordon | microb is the stock browser | 01:49 |
| freemangordon | yep | 01:49 |
| Gatta_Negra | using wi-fi I wait 5 mins to open faceboo | 01:49 |
| Gatta_Negra | and no flash videos | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 01:50 |
| Gatta_Negra | says flash is too old | 01:50 |
| freemangordon | flash 10 is old? | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, it's like 9.x flash | 01:50 |
| Gatta_Negra | i do not have 10 | 01:50 |
| freemangordon | well, just install it | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 9.x with so many flash 10 backports that it's prolly better than the leaked flash10 | 01:51 |
| freemangordon | no, it is not | 01:51 |
| Gatta_Negra | how? i can not see where to install addons from | 01:51 |
| freemangordon | 10 is better, just a bit slower | 01:51 |
| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: also, you may want to install cssu-thumb | 01:52 |
| freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb | 01:52 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | many users patch their flash9 to "10" and are happy | 01:52 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: | 01:54 |
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| freemangordon | but 10 is not that bad as you might think | 01:54 |
| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: cssu-thumb is what makes n900 way faster than stok. though it is based on cssu-testing, so it is up to you to decide | 01:56 |
| freemangordon | stock even | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even I would use thumb meanwhile. What i'd not pick again is cssu-testing | 02:01 |
| freemangordon | O.o | 02:01 |
| * freemangordon can't believe his eyes :P | 02:01 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | had too many severy issues that slipped QA | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | severe* | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: thumb considered 100% evalutaed for stability and regressions, in my book | 02:02 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: TBH I am not aware of anything broken in -thumb as of now. Besides it forces you to use nokicam | 02:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not current state, it's the disasters in the past that would've killed me | 02:03 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: naah, I remember our "wars" here, back in the days... | 02:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, it been new and untested back when | 02:03 |
| freemangordon | sure :) | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meanwhile I guess a hundred users running it day by day since a year or sth | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any odds should've shown up meanwhile | 02:04 |
| freemangordon | a couple of hundreds afaik | 02:04 |
| cehteh | grr my n900 suizided | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AAAAAAARGH!!! | 02:05 |
| freemangordon | maybe I should ask merlin1991 to do some statistics when I push the next update | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how that? | 02:05 |
| cehteh | vibration alarm made it jump from the table while plugged in ... usb came loose | 02:05 |
| freemangordon | oh | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK!!! | 02:05 |
| freemangordon | bad luck :( | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix | 02:06 |
| infobot | it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 02:06 |
| cehteh | i bet jolla employs some voodoo priestess to stick needels in knitted mobiles now | 02:06 |
| cehteh | i once did that seems some traces are ripped of | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, CTO called Neo900 a "nice project" | 02:06 |
| cehteh | and thats friggen hard to solder because this metal case neearby | 02:07 |
| freemangordon | yeah, how cute :D | 02:07 |
| freemangordon | (nice project that is) | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: cut away the metal case | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brute force | 02:07 |
| cehteh | is there a chance to get spare usb connectors? .. complete resoldering? | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | easypeasy | 02:08 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: toldya, you can't make a new whorehouse with the same old whores | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for spare connectors | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds about right | 02:08 |
| cehteh | i mean songle piece not 10000 on a reel or $20 for shipping | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if they afain use BustZone | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: check ebay | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5 for 3$ | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or sth | 02:09 |
| merlin1991 | dealextreme 10 for 0.89$ or something | 02:09 |
| freemangordon | what about farnell? | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you get the "ORIGINAL NOKIA spare part blablabla" for 4.80 | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | farnell has min order 30$ or sth | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually farnell doesn't sell at all on detail | 02:11 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: how hard is it to run some statistics the next time I isuue an update to cssu-thumb? | 02:11 |
| Gatta_Negra | i tried to buy a nokia xpress music 5??? touchscreen replacement from a German man from Hmaburg and he cheated and sent me some useless piece of plasic | 02:11 |
| Gatta_Negra | all chinese sellers never lied to me and now this | 02:11 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: easypeasy, you need to tell me beforehand though, because the server has no http access logs atm | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | touchscreen != LCD display | 02:12 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: sure, I'll pester you in advance | 02:13 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: btw, how's the new update developing? do you need any help? | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I eventually should check the apache logs of repo | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to evaluate the recent number of active devices out there | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | window one week | 02:14 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: iirc merlin1991 has a script that was filtering by IP address | 02:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or one day and then *7 ? | 02:15 |
| Gatta_Negra | DocScrutinizer05, touchscreen s the front screen in front of the display. And the ribbon is misplaced so it is useless | 02:15 |
| freemangordon | or rather counting | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: dang | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then they got it wrong | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | german sellers rarely cheat | 02:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe abroad orders are different | 02:15 |
| Gatta_Negra | strange is that description phto shows the correct part | 02:15 |
| Gatta_Negra | and what I got looks different and is different | 02:16 |
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| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: hmm, why you had to order it from Germany? | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then it's been his fault and you should send back the part and ask for the correct part or money back | 02:16 |
| freemangordon | *do you | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: you're EU, no? | 02:17 |
| freemangordon | yep | 02:17 |
| Gatta_Negra | freemangordon, it's my mom's phone and she messed the touchscreen so I decided to change it. I ordered from germany (ebay) because a) not ot be cheated by the chinese b) to come here faster | 02:17 |
| freemangordon | oh, I see | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then you're protected | 02:17 |
| Gatta_Negra | yes I opened a case | 02:17 |
| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: afaik, you can't return it in 7 days, without any reason | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't lose | 02:18 |
| freemangordon | *can | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 14 | 02:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 02:18 |
| Gatta_Negra | but the phone is useless for until the seller replies and so on | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 02:18 |
| cehteh | hmpf | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | annoying | 02:18 |
| Gatta_Negra | AND i am neer buying from a german seller agaoin | 02:19 |
| Gatta_Negra | never again * | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, shit happens | 02:19 |
| Gatta_Negra | i will show you a pic. just a second | 02:19 |
| freemangordon | neo900 lost a potential customer :D | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;ยด( | 02:19 |
| Gatta_Negra | hah | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, OK. We got our candidates | 02:21 |
| cehteh | http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/7726768/ << looks ok? | 02:21 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: did you? | 02:21 |
| * freemangordon check on neo900.org | 02:21 | |
| freemangordon | checks even | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: not exactly | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is a almost thru-hole type | 02:22 |
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| cehteh | ah i see | 02:22 |
| freemangordon | hmm, 12 more needed | 02:22 |
| cehteh | well can cut that off | 02:22 |
| cehteh | the pitch and measures of the connectors are somewhat standardized? | 02:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | could probably made to fit, with a file and pliers | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yup | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | somehat | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to USB plugs | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 02:24 |
| cehteh | i am more scared that the traces are damaged .. that means the n900 would be dead or at least hard to repair | 02:24 |
| freemangordon | hmm, doesn't it need two wide pins on the sides to be soldered to the board? | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | harder, yes | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gather you must hold a usb receptacle in your hands now, no? | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd closely inspect it | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: yes | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wide, not deep | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | two at the side and another smaller to at the inner end | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | two* | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: you might want to have a look at bare PCB scans at my server | 02:26 |
| cehteh | i'll ask you when i need them | 02:27 |
| Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_002.jpg | 02:27 |
| cehteh | cant do anything right now | 02:27 |
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| freemangordon | AFAIK, usually the places where those pins are soldered, doesn't fall of when the connector falls off | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gtlooks like it could work and fit | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: depends | 02:29 |
| freemangordon | sure it depends, but most of the pictures I've seen has those intact | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | depends a lot on how the receptacle got removed. If lifted off or sheared off | 02:30 |
| Gatta_Negra | hm? | 02:31 |
| freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: seems like that one might do the job. at least from the picture you've posted | 02:32 |
| Gatta_Negra | i stopped posting | 02:32 |
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| Gatta_Negra | cause you were talking important stuff | 02:32 |
| Gatta_Negra | here are other pix | 02:32 |
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| Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_004.jpg | 02:33 |
| Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_005.jpg | 02:33 |
| Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_008.jpg | 02:34 |
| Gatta_Negra | that wa the last one | 02:34 |
| Gatta_Negra | so the idea is that metal frame goes almost around the touchscreen. and ribbon goes under | 02:35 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it still looks to me that should be ok. the cable seems thin enough to go under the frame | 02:35 |
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| freemangordon | but really can't judge from the pictures only | 02:35 |
| Gatta_Negra | freemangordon, whoa, my friend, I am not an engineer, but I am taught not to change something's design to make it fit | 02:35 |
| Gatta_Negra | it can fit only and only if I leafe it above . And the plastic case is so tight it will ruin it | 02:36 |
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| Gatta_Negra | I tried. believe me. I am scared of waiting them change the part or return money, but it would be a waste if I tried assembling the phone this way | 02:37 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 02:37 |
| cehteh | http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/7025475/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/6850965/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/6694645/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/0435706/ | 02:38 |
| cehteh | ... choices choices | 02:38 |
| freemangordon | anyway: | 02:38 |
| * freemangordon thinks it is time to have some sleep | 02:38 | |
| freemangordon | night guys and gals | 02:39 |
| Gatta_Negra | night | 02:39 |
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| winocm | hi. | 04:28 |
| winocm | anyone have an N900 with u-boot in R&D mode and willing to test something for me? :) | 04:29 |
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| mashina | darwin magic? | 04:30 |
| winocm | yeah. | 04:31 |
| mashina | i'm gonna watch patiently | 04:31 |
| mashina | i don't want to lose my baby to science | 04:32 |
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| winocm | hahahaha | 04:32 |
| mashina | and if someone ports the iOS UI I will eat my eats | 04:33 |
| mashina | *eat my hats | 04:33 |
| winocm | multiple hats? | 04:33 |
| mashina | i got a rack full and I'm hungry | 04:33 |
| mashina | anyways guten nacht maemokinder | 04:34 |
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| bef0rd | winocm: i'm about to install uboot, not R&D mode though | 05:27 |
| Hurrian | bef0rd: what you're about to see will not require flashing keyboard lights and the NIT logo in the middle of NOLO at startup though :P | 05:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 05:40 |
| winocm | well, R&D mode shouldn't be required anymore | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | R&D mode isn't required for anything | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except for R&D ;-P | 05:41 |
| winocm | which is what i do :) | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what exactly is it what you do, that needs R&D mode? | 05:42 |
| winocm | used to not feed the wdt, now i do that | 05:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 05:42 |
| winocm | hopefully, qemu doesn't emulate the wdt | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah | 05:42 |
| winocm | http://goput.it/ij38.png this is what i'm doing ;P | 05:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 05:45 |
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| winocm | i'm looking for decent test hardware, for a reasonable price and with reasonable shipping. | 05:45 |
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| alexseif | Hello all :) I'm Alex | 11:20 |
| alexseif | I was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N900 | 11:20 |
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| alexseif | Hello all :) I'm Alex | 17:34 |
| alexseif | I was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N900? | 17:34 |
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| GattaNegra | hmm | 17:37 |
| GattaNegra | I wander what you people think on this; | 17:38 |
| GattaNegra | I kinda do not like the ovi store pag | 17:38 |
| GattaNegra | page*. Even I could make it look prettier | 17:38 |
| GattaNegra | Nokia is a big big company, how they let that thing go online at all? | 17:38 |
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