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freemangordonGatta_Negra: actually the man behind Neo900 is DocScrutinizer0501:45
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Gatta_Negrahe gave himself up unwillingly01:45
Gatta_Negraaaaan then willingly also01:46
freemangordonhmm? can't parse :)01:46
Gatta_Negraand i ca nnot type01:46
Gatta_Negrane said he is01:46
Gatta_Negrai am sorry i am distracted01:47
freemangordonhowever, joerg_rw is DocScrutinizer05, check who started the thread on TMO
freemangordonGatta_Negra: on a serious note - what is the problem with microb?01:48
freemangordonI use it to browse desktop facebook with no problem01:49
Gatta_Negrasorry , problem with what?01:49
Gatta_Negrathe browser? default one?01:49
freemangordonmicrob is the stock browser01:49
Gatta_Negrausing wi-fi I wait 5 mins to open faceboo01:49
Gatta_Negraand no flash videos01:50
Gatta_Negrasays flash is too old01:50
freemangordonflash 10 is old?01:50
DocScrutinizer05yeah, it's like 9.x flash01:50
Gatta_Negrai do not have 1001:50
freemangordonwell, just install it01:50
DocScrutinizer059.x with so many flash 10 backports that it's prolly better than the leaked flash1001:51
freemangordonno, it is not01:51
Gatta_Negrahow? i can not see where to install addons from01:51
freemangordon10 is better, just a bit slower01:51
freemangordonGatta_Negra: also, you may want to install cssu-thumb01:52
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or, or
DocScrutinizer05many users patch their flash9 to "10" and are happy01:52
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: :nod:01:54
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freemangordonbut 10 is not that bad as you might think01:54
freemangordonGatta_Negra: cssu-thumb is what makes n900 way faster than stok. though it is based on cssu-testing, so it is up to you to decide01:56
freemangordonstock even01:56
DocScrutinizer05even I would use thumb meanwhile. What i'd not pick again is cssu-testing02:01
* freemangordon can't believe his eyes :P02:01
DocScrutinizer05had too many severy issues that slipped QA02:01
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: thumb considered 100% evalutaed for stability and regressions, in my book02:02
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: TBH I am not aware of anything broken in -thumb as of now. Besides it forces you to use nokicam02:02
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DocScrutinizer05it's not current state, it's the disasters in the past that would've killed me02:03
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: naah, I remember our "wars" here, back in the days...02:03
DocScrutinizer05sure, it been new and untested back when02:03
freemangordonsure :)02:04
DocScrutinizer05meanwhile I guess a hundred users running it day by day since a year or sth02:04
DocScrutinizer05any odds should've shown up meanwhile02:04
freemangordona couple of hundreds afaik02:04
cehtehgrr my n900 suizided02:05
freemangordonmaybe I should ask merlin1991 to do some statistics when I push the next update02:05
DocScrutinizer05how that?02:05
cehtehvibration alarm made it jump from the table while plugged in ... usb came loose02:05
freemangordonbad luck :(02:06
infobotit has been said that usbfix is - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)02:06
cehtehi bet jolla employs some voodoo priestess to stick needels in knitted mobiles now02:06
cehtehi once did that seems some traces are ripped of02:06
DocScrutinizer05hmm, CTO called Neo900 a "nice project"02:06
cehtehand thats friggen hard to solder because this metal case neearby02:07
freemangordonyeah, how cute :D02:07
freemangordon(nice project that is)02:07
DocScrutinizer05cehteh: cut away the metal case02:07
DocScrutinizer05brute force02:07
cehtehis there a chance to get spare usb connectors? .. complete resoldering?02:07
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: toldya, you can't make a new whorehouse with the same old whores02:08
DocScrutinizer05for spare connectors02:08
DocScrutinizer05sounds about right02:08
cehtehi mean songle piece not 10000 on a reel or $20 for shipping02:08
DocScrutinizer05I wonder if they afain use BustZone02:09
DocScrutinizer05cehteh: check ebay02:09
DocScrutinizer055 for 3$02:09
DocScrutinizer05or sth02:09
merlin1991dealextreme 10 for 0.89$ or something02:09
freemangordonwhat about farnell?02:10
DocScrutinizer05or you get the "ORIGINAL NOKIA spare part blablabla" for 4.8002:10
DocScrutinizer05farnell has min order 30$ or sth02:10
DocScrutinizer05actually farnell doesn't sell at all on detail02:11
freemangordonmerlin1991: how hard is it to run some statistics the next time I isuue an update to cssu-thumb?02:11
Gatta_Negrai tried to buy a nokia xpress music 5??? touchscreen replacement from a German man from Hmaburg and he cheated and sent me some useless piece of plasic02:11
Gatta_Negraall chinese sellers never lied to me and now this02:11
merlin1991freemangordon: easypeasy, you need to tell me beforehand though, because the server has no http access logs atm02:12
DocScrutinizer05touchscreen != LCD display02:12
freemangordonmerlin1991: sure, I'll pester you in advance02:13
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freemangordonmerlin1991: btw, how's the new update developing? do you need any help?02:14
DocScrutinizer05I eventually should check the apache logs of repo02:14
DocScrutinizer05to evaluate the recent number of active devices out there02:14
DocScrutinizer05window one week02:14
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: iirc merlin1991 has a script that was filtering by IP address02:15
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DocScrutinizer05or one day and then *7 ?02:15
Gatta_NegraDocScrutinizer05, touchscreen s the front screen in front of the display. And the ribbon is misplaced so it is useless02:15
freemangordonor rather counting02:15
DocScrutinizer05Gatta_Negra: dang02:15
DocScrutinizer05then they got it wrong02:15
DocScrutinizer05german sellers rarely cheat02:15
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DocScrutinizer05well, maybe abroad orders are different02:15
Gatta_Negrastrange is that description phto shows the correct part02:15
Gatta_Negraand what I got looks different and is different02:16
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freemangordonGatta_Negra: hmm, why you had to order it from Germany?02:16
DocScrutinizer05then it's been his fault and you should send back the part and ask for the correct part or money back02:16
freemangordon*do you02:16
DocScrutinizer05Gatta_Negra: you're EU, no?02:17
Gatta_Negrafreemangordon, it's my mom's phone and she messed the touchscreen so I decided to change it. I ordered from germany (ebay) because a) not ot be cheated by the chinese  b) to come here faster02:17
freemangordonoh, I see02:17
DocScrutinizer05then you're protected02:17
Gatta_Negrayes I opened a case02:17
freemangordonGatta_Negra: afaik, you can't return it in 7 days, without any reason02:18
DocScrutinizer05you can't lose02:18
Gatta_Negrabut the phone is useless for until the seller replies and so on02:18
Gatta_NegraAND i am neer buying from a german seller agaoin02:19
Gatta_Negranever again *02:19
DocScrutinizer05meh, shit happens02:19
Gatta_Negrai will show you a pic. just a second02:19
freemangordonneo900 lost a potential customer :D02:19
DocScrutinizer05LOL, OK. We got our candidates02:21
cehteh << looks ok?02:21
freemangordon DocScrutinizer05: did you?02:21
* freemangordon check on neo900.org02:21
freemangordonchecks even02:22
DocScrutinizer05cehteh: not exactly02:22
DocScrutinizer05this is a almost thru-hole type02:22
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cehtehah i see02:22
freemangordonhmm, 12 more needed02:22
cehtehwell can cut that off02:22
cehtehthe pitch and measures of the connectors are somewhat standardized?02:23
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DocScrutinizer05could probably made to fit, with a file and pliers02:23
DocScrutinizer05thanks to USB plugs02:23
cehtehi am more scared that the traces are damaged .. that means the n900 would be dead or at least hard to repair02:24
freemangordonhmm, doesn't it need two wide pins on the sides to be soldered to the board?02:24
DocScrutinizer05harder, yes02:24
DocScrutinizer05I gather you must hold a usb receptacle in your hands now, no?02:24
DocScrutinizer05I'd closely inspect it02:25
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: yes02:25
DocScrutinizer05wide, not deep02:25
DocScrutinizer05two at the side and another smaller to at the inner end02:25
DocScrutinizer05cehteh: you might want to have a look at bare PCB scans at my server02:26
cehtehi'll ask you when i need them02:27
cehtehcant do anything right now02:27
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freemangordonAFAIK, usually the places where those pins are soldered, doesn't fall of when the connector falls off02:27
DocScrutinizer05gtlooks like it could work and fit02:29
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: depends02:29
freemangordonsure it depends, but most of the pictures I've seen has those intact02:30
DocScrutinizer05depends a lot on how the receptacle got removed. If lifted off or sheared off02:30
freemangordonGatta_Negra: seems like that one might do the job. at least from the picture you've posted02:32
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Gatta_Negracause you were talking important stuff02:32
Gatta_Negra here are other pix02:32
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Gatta_Negrathat wa the last one02:34
Gatta_Negraso the idea is that metal frame goes almost around the touchscreen. and ribbon goes under02:35
freemangordonhmm, it still looks to me that should be ok. the cable seems thin enough to go under the frame02:35
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freemangordonbut really can't judge from the pictures only02:35
Gatta_Negrafreemangordon, whoa, my friend, I am not an engineer, but I am taught not to change something's design to make it fit02:35
Gatta_Negrait can fit only and only if I leafe it above . And the plastic case is so tight it will ruin it02:36
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Gatta_NegraI tried. believe me. I am scared of waiting them change the part or return money, but it would be a waste if I tried assembling the phone this way02:37
cehteh... choices choices02:38
* freemangordon thinks it is time to have some sleep02:38
freemangordonnight guys and gals02:39
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winocmanyone have an N900 with u-boot in R&D mode and willing to test something for me? :)04:29
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mashinadarwin magic?04:30
mashinai'm gonna watch patiently04:31
mashinai don't want to lose my baby to science04:32
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mashinaand if someone ports the iOS UI I will eat my eats04:33
mashina*eat my hats04:33
winocmmultiple hats?04:33
mashinai got a rack full and I'm hungry04:33
mashinaanyways guten nacht maemokinder04:34
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bef0rdwinocm: i'm about to install uboot, not R&D mode though05:27
Hurrianbef0rd: what you're about to see will not require flashing keyboard lights and the NIT logo in the middle of NOLO at startup though :P05:29
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winocmwell, R&D mode shouldn't be required anymore05:41
DocScrutinizer05R&D mode isn't required for anything05:41
DocScrutinizer05except for R&D ;-P05:41
winocmwhich is what i do :)05:41
DocScrutinizer05what exactly is it what you do, that needs R&D mode?05:42
winocmused to not feed the wdt, now i do that05:42
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winocmhopefully, qemu doesn't emulate the wdt05:42
winocm this is what i'm doing ;P05:43
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winocmi'm looking for decent test hardware, for a reasonable price and with reasonable shipping.05:45
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alexseifHello all :) I'm Alex11:20
alexseifI was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N90011:20
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alexseifHello all :) I'm Alex17:34
alexseifI was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N900?17:34
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GattaNegraI wander what you people think on this;17:38
GattaNegraI kinda do not like the ovi store pag17:38
GattaNegrapage*. Even I could make it look prettier17:38
GattaNegraNokia is a big big company, how they let that thing go online at all?17:38
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Win7Macgrrr... ;)18:17
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