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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_U91ipVWsF_2EiG3s6BKA | 12:27 |
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| freemangordon | no sound? | 12:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes broken, livestream works now | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | yep | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | in german :( | 12:31 |
| slyon | the 2nd talk is in english | 12:31 |
| slyon | and the slides were in english | 12:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the currently ending livestream been english, with sound | 12:31 |
| slyon | sound has been a little broken in the first few minutes of the 2nd talk but then it worked | 12:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pPCvdnneTs&noredirect=1 | 12:33 |
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| freemangordon | for me the audio is brokken all the time | 12:43 |
| Sicelo | help please. when i receive sms/chat, etc, i get the yellow notification on the dashboard, but tapping on it just closes it and does not take me to Converstations application. i have to go the 'manually.' Any idea why? | 12:43 |
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| Sicelo | i guess this could be on tmo, but i can't find it | 12:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bbfT-Qqw1M&noredirect=1 | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | smart watches | 16:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPmXxq1MdQ Neo900 the next N900 - Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller | 17:43 |
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| grr | 'lo ;) | 18:14 |
| kerio | hi | 18:14 |
| lexik | hi :) | 18:17 |
| grr | ... never expected so many maemo fans/users | 18:21 |
| grr | ;) | 18:21 |
| Sicelo | lol | 18:22 |
| Sicelo | reason? | 18:22 |
| grr | i'm being here for the first time | 18:23 |
| grr | n900 was never too popular. | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | super popular | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | \o/ \o/ ~o~ | 18:24 |
| grr | i thought i was the only one, who is still using it. | 18:26 |
| Sicelo | :p | 18:26 |
| Sicelo | it is loved much more than you can imagine | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | ~neo900 | 18:27 |
| infobot | i heard neo900 is at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142, or at http://neo900.org/ | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | grr: ^^ the result of N900 love | 18:27 |
| grr | is there any chance it would be actually produced? | 18:28 |
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| MohammadAG | grr, iiuc the chips are already ready | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer05, feel free to stab me if I'm incorrect :p | 18:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | <grr> is there any chance it would be actually produced? | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> grr, iiuc the chips are already ready | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we don't produce chips | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | you already have the SoC and other parts right? | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | well yeah, but you have parts from previous openmoko devices | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we have a first proto with a working modem on it | 18:49 |
| grr | so they are probably binary compatible with N900, so the proprietary blobs can work, ritht? | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see youtube presentation | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we have to do some adaption work | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf | 18:49 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modem is completely different than BB5 in N900 - Thank God for that! | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | again: see presentation | 18:50 |
| MohammadAG | OMG OMG OMG that means the dialer can be replaced! | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | couldn't get done with a BB5 | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err yes, or this way | 18:51 |
| grr | What was wrong with the N900 modem? i thought it was great. At least it was much better than N9. | 18:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | PxS8 will work with every standard dialer | 18:51 |
| MohammadAG | grr, the interface was closed source | 18:53 |
| MohammadAG | the dialer was crap and couldn't be replaced without major RE | 18:53 |
| grr | ic | 18:54 |
| grr | lot of stuff is proprietary and cannot be done open source, i guess. | 18:56 |
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| winocm | the neo900 seems like an interesting project. | 19:00 |
| grr | very | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | indeed, I'd very much like it to succeed | 19:01 |
| grr | so far there is nothing that can replace ageing N900 and I doubt that Jolla can produce the handset that could possibly replace it. | 19:02 |
| winocm | i'd like it to run xnu ;) | 19:03 |
| MohammadAG | It should do that OOTB I guess | 19:04 |
| winocm | yeah | 19:04 |
| winocm | beaglexm has a dm3730 i believe | 19:04 |
| MohammadAG | winocm, off topic, but the 2012 Nexus 7 might be able to do that too | 19:04 |
| winocm | Tegra3? | 19:05 |
| MohammadAG | was mucking around the other day and read it's an ARM A9 coupled with a Tegra 3 | 19:05 |
| MohammadAG | I didn't exactly check if that was true | 19:05 |
| winocm | yeah, i don't have so much experience with tegra socs | 19:05 |
| winocm | it's really Apple ones and OMAP | 19:05 |
| MohammadAG | ARM Cortex-A9 Nvidia Tegra 3 T30L 1.2 GHz quad-core (1.3 GHz single-core mode) 1MB L2 cache | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | Wouldn't it work without HW acceleration? | 19:06 |
| winocm | Cortex-A9 is a slightly weird beast | 19:06 |
| winocm | A15 made is slightly better, i believe | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | was slightly surprised to see the N9 was an A8 | 19:07 |
| winocm | but i'm not really a fan of the PL310 | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | I was almost sure it was an A9 | 19:07 |
| winocm | omap3 is cortex-a8 exclusively | 19:07 |
| grr | Wayland hack with libhybris was very clever thing they have done. | 19:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | N9 has a 3630 | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or 3640 | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so clearly Cortex A8 | 19:16 |
| freemangordon | 3630 iirc | 19:16 |
| winocm | omap3630, yes | 19:17 |
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| thedead1440_ | DocScrutinizer05: congratulations on the presentation! I can't remember the last time I saw a presentation that was this honest and made you feel happy to be witnessing it instead of just desiring the product as a techie... | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, thanks! :-) | 19:27 |
| thedead1440_ | No marketing bs at last | 19:27 |
| grr | Very interesting thread about ftpf. | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, niklaus is awesome | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I would never have started this project if it wasn't Nikolaus | 19:28 |
| thedead1440_ | Indeed. He makes you feel part of the process. | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I helped a bit on that ;-) | 19:28 |
| thedead1440_ | Hehe | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Even Nikolaus didn't think this could work | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I convinced him | 19:29 |
| thedead1440_ | Props to you for daring this :) | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, without dos1 we probably would be nowhere yet | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he simply *made* neo900.org website | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.openphoenux.org/ohsw2013/ | 19:32 |
| thedead1440_ | Yeah the three of you have done a brilliant job so far. Hopefully this continues and Neo900 gets the success it deserves. | 19:32 |
| grr | crazy idea. | 19:39 |
| grr | love it | 19:39 |
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| vi_ | hi | 20:56 |
| vi_ | is there some equivalent for httpsanywhere on the n900? | 21:00 |
| Pali | vi_: just install firefox xpi extension, it working fine on n900 | 21:01 |
| vi_ | cheers pali. I hope you enjoyed your pizza :) | 21:05 |
| Pali | :-) | 21:05 |
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| Gatta_Negra | being as idiotic my question as it is ... is fennec the only browser? | 22:03 |
| Gatta_Negra | i mean opera is too slow, the built in has too little features | 22:03 |
| Gatta_Negra | so there is fennec | 22:03 |
| Gatta_Negra | but it can not play flash or mp4 | 22:03 |
| Gatta_Negra | can I install something newer/ | 22:03 |
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| vi_ | ... | 22:06 |
| vi_ | you can use chrome through a debian chroot. | 22:07 |
| vi_ | but it is slow to startup. | 22:07 |
| vi_ | what feature is microb missing? | 22:07 |
| * wmarone shudders at the thought of starting chromium via debian chroot on the N900 | 22:09 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard FireFox is faster than fenec | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thi sbeen 2 or 3 years ago though | 22:10 |
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| Gatta_Negra | hmm . chromium i do not like personally | 22:19 |
| Gatta_Negra | aha, and to share - no news with soldering yet. I am doing it january | 22:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, you got the kernel patch, which should go a long way | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw Neo900 has a switch in card reader that should get used to do the hard umounting and switch-off of uSD, so the magnet switch is a) not needed any more, and b) free to do other nice stuff with it, like preparing device for battery hotswap | 22:44 |
| Gatta_Negra | I am not actually using it at the moment. You say it is a patch for the new kernel? | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which of course will be configurabel since it's defined by me ;-) | 22:45 |
| Gatta_Negra | Did I miss something | 22:45 |
| Gatta_Negra | DocScrutinizer05, this neo900 thing sounds really attractive | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, I thought you came up with the patch in tmo | 22:45 |
| Gatta_Negra | yes we are working on it but it is not ready yet | 22:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | anyway we know how to do it | 22:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | i paused that for some time, yet when ready we will let anyone interested know | 22:46 |
| Gatta_Negra | Do you take part in neo900 development? | 22:46 |
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| grr | only fennec? how about iceweasel? | 23:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: who, me? | 23:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~joerg | 23:21 |
| infobot | joerg is, like, a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer | 23:22 |
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