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zamn900hi all11:07
zamn900is a microsd of 2gb enough for nitdroid?11:08
zamn900hey anyway my camera is black11:10
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zamn900I never tried bless after last reflah11:16
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DocScrutinizer05details, even11:20
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zamn900alright I ve solved my problem removing and reinstalling all programs conflicting with the new cssu camera-ui...12:03
zamn900anyway I want shortcut keybuttons customizables and I don't find any app for that12:04
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zamn900please all is just missing but would be very awesome is the shortcut key customizable12:08
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zamn900hi all again13:26
zamn900how to have automatic clock update?13:27
zamn900shall I set it by myself all the times I switch battery?13:27
jaskahmm, mine updates on reboot13:27
jaskasettings -> date and time -> update automatically13:28
jaskathink it pulls the time off the gsm network13:28
jaskaas i have no ntp setup on it13:28
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zamn900apt-get install ntp no candidate?13:53
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: how do I use gnokii on the n900?13:54
jon_ywhich port?13:55
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DocScrutinizer05err, via pnatd13:55
DocScrutinizer05pnatd creates a virtual tty in your console13:56
jon_yok, so I need to have pnatd running in another console first?13:56
DocScrutinizer05or do sth like    gnokii <(pnatd)13:57
jon_yhmm, pnatd doesn't seem to do anything13:57
DocScrutinizer05sorry i'm busy. No time to work out the details13:57
zamn900DocScrutinizer05, good job13:57
zamn900go ahead to work13:57
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jon_yI see14:00
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DocScrutinizer05also see pnatd -help14:02
DocScrutinizer05you can tell pnatd which ptty to open/create iirc14:03
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jon_yhmm, does it matter if I use ttyS0?14:12
jon_yit is already there14:12
jon_ybut gnokii still can't connect to it14:13
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DocScrutinizer05mmmpf, netsplit?14:16
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DocScrutinizer05nah, local connectivity issue it seems14:17
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: got it to talk to pnatd somewhat14:41
jon_ybut ends with unknown error when trying to retrieve sms14:41
DocScrutinizer05hmm, toldya pnatd (or BB5 itself) probably doesn't support it14:42
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DocScrutinizer05the modem firmware is 'optimized' for the N900 so some functions common to other modems are not available in BB5 since userland/APE is supposed to take care of that task. Like SMS14:43
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DocScrutinizer05...has a few python and other programs to send and receive SMS, but _not_ to download SMs from SIM14:44
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: can the nokia phone suite retrieve sms?14:49
DocScrutinizer05NFC, afaik it's a windows program, and windows is a virus that pretends to be an OS I heard. IOW I never used that14:50
jon_yyeah, I need a semi smartphone to extract it, possibly14:51
DocScrutinizer05very likely though it neither has access to SIMborne SMS14:51
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LowMemoryhello maemo users15:50
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DocScrutinizer05hi LowMemory! :-)16:06
LowMemoryDocScrutinizer05: hi DocScrutinizer05 :)16:07
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LowMemoryso how do I get root account on servers ? :-D16:07
LowMemoryseriously: is there something like a weekly/monthly e-meeting ?16:08
DocScrutinizer05LowMemory: we currently have no urgently pending tasks in exactly maemo maintenance, we however have long pending stuff like optimizing PHP scripts that use midgard function calls that leak memory16:08
LowMemoryokay, is code public ? (on gitorious, github or whatever ?)16:08
DocScrutinizer05well, it's not exactly secret16:09
LowMemorymaybe a forge on a maemo server ?16:09
DocScrutinizer05I don't know if and where it's hostend in some SVN, though I suspect it should be16:09
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LowMemoryI have setup a gitlab not long ago… We may use it (as soon as I talk my teammates and see how to keep other users data separated).16:11
DocScrutinizer05you got an invitation16:11
DocScrutinizer05sorry I'm too busy right ATM to do a proper introduction chat with you16:12
LowMemoryDocScrutinizer05: no problem, I'm busy too16:12
DocScrutinizer05You got invited to our admin channel where others should be around that can explain a few internal sto you16:13
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DocScrutinizer05infobot RESURRECT!!16:41
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!16:43
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DocScrutinizer05infobot: that took a while!16:43
infobotSince Thu Nov  7 14:41:35 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 2m 10s this session, and currently reference 119186 factoids.  I'm using about 18376 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.66/0.11 child 0/016:43
infobot- Uptime for apt -16:44
infobotNow: 2m 30s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux16:44
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201016:44
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200916:44
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200916:44
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felipecis anybody using N900 usbnet on recent kernels?22:04
Paliwhat do you mean by recent?22:08
felipecPali: ~3.1022:09
felipecPali: but I mean 3.10 on the PC22:09
Palido you mean recent kernel with usb gadget on n900?22:10
Palior stock kernel on n900 and 3.10 on PC?22:10
Palior both 3.10 on n900 and PC?22:10
felipecPali: stock kernel on n900, ~3.10 on PC22:11
felipecactually any kernel on n90022:11
Paliok, then I'm using usb networking in this way :-)22:11
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felipecPali: it doesn't work for me =/22:11
Palifelipec: do you see usb0 on PC?22:12
felipecit works with the N9, not N90022:12
Paliwhat is in dmesg?22:12
felipecPali: yeah22:12
Paliso what not working?22:12
Paliassigning address?22:12
felipecPali: link is not working, then I force it, ping is not working22:12
Palilink is not working --> this can be caused on n900 side22:12
Palicheck if you have link on n90022:13
Palitry to run on n900: ifup usb022:13
felipecPali: how do I do that?22:13
Pali(as root)22:13
felipecPali: that works22:13
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Paligive me output of ifconfig usb0 (on n900)22:13
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felipecPali: that would be tedious to copy by hand... the IP is there, it says UP, RX packets, no TX packets22:15
Palithis is not enough, you need running22:15
felipecPali: also running22:16
felipecI'm going to try 3.022:16
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felipechmm, I see a ton of errors in dmesg22:19
felipec[   74.407052] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: detected XactErr len 0/1514 retry 122:19
PaliHW problem?22:23
felipecPali: on the N900?22:23
felipeccould be22:24
Palior on PC?22:24
felipecPali: if it's on the PC why does the N9 work?22:24
PaliI have some problems with usb 3.0 ports and n90022:24
Palibut on 2.0 ports working fine22:24
felipecPali: I don't think I have 2.0 ports22:24
Paliand only n900 has problems with usb 3.022:24
Paliand what you have? only 3.0 ports?22:25
felipecPali: I think so, yeah22:25
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Palifelipec: and why then are you using ehci drivers?22:26
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Palifor 3.0 you need xhci22:27
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felipecPali: I have xhci22:27
PaliI mean "[21:19:56] <felipec> [   74.407052] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: detected XactErr len 0/1514 retry 1"22:28
felipecPali: CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y22:30
DocScrutinizer05use a hub22:31
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felipecDocScrutinizer05: I don't have one22:32
felipecI tried with another N900, so it's not a hw problem of the device22:32
DocScrutinizer05there are known problems even with ohci or ehci drivers on PC, with N90022:33
DocScrutinizer05actually not only with N90022:33
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PaliDocScrutinizer05: thanks for link!22:35
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PaliI tried to find way how to deregister ehci without recompiling kernel (with ehci removable module)22:36
felipecDocScrutinizer05: I recompiled my kernel to make it a module... let's see22:36
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myname24Hi ,can22:37
myname24anyone point me to how to chroot maemo22:40
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myname24Hi ,can22:41
myname24Hi ,  can22:41
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myname24Hi ,can22:42
myname24how to chroot maemo22:43
PaliI do not understand22:44
Palifrom which system?22:44
myname24how to chroot maemo22:44
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myname24I need to install sysklogd22:45
myname24Ubuntu desktop22:45
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Paliand what you have maemo image?22:46
myname24Because my device is unbootable right now . I removed multiboot and installed kernel power 52 and now it's in that state22:46
infobotfrom memory, maemo-flashing is
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myname24I know about flashing :) i'm asking about solution that do need flash22:47
myname24Do not*22:47
Paliso you broke rootfs and what to fix it, right?22:47
Palionly one solution is rescueOS22:47
Paliit is initfs with kernel which can be loaded via USB to n900 RAM without flashing22:48
Palibut you need to know *what* you need to fix22:48
Paliyou need to know *what* you broken and *how* to fix it22:48
myname24Yes i can load rescueos successfully22:48
infobotrescueos is, like,
Paliso fix what you broken :-)22:48
PaliI cannot help more22:49
myname24The question is how to know *what* is broken :)22:49
myname24Any log or something to look into22:49
infobotwell, maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED22:49
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Palimyname24: you can try to load stock kernel22:50
Pali(now when you know how to load it without flashing)22:50
Palior check if you have correct (not damaged) file /sbin/preinit22:50
DocScrutinizer05myname24: your kernel modules do not match the kernel in mtd122:51
Palistock kernel modules are never uninstalled, so loading stock kernel can help22:51
DocScrutinizer05but honestly multiboot damages your system, thus ^^^^22:51
myname24I did unpack module from kernel power 52 and flash it via maemo flasher and still the same22:51
Pali"I did unpack module from kernel power 52" not enough22:52
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Paliyou need to depmod22:52
Palireally, try to load/boot stock kernel22:52
Paliif this will not work, then ~flashing is needed22:52
myname24I'm on cssu does it work ?22:52
infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is
Paliyou will see if it will work22:53
Paliyou cannot broke phone more with trying to boot stock kernel22:53
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DocScrutinizer05that's correct :-P22:53
DocScrutinizer05almost ;-P22:54
Palionly MALF can be wrotten to dsme state file22:54
Palibut this can be removed with R&D flag...22:54
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DocScrutinizer05he can enter bootloop22:54
DocScrutinizer05and flatbat22:54
Paliok, this is possible too22:54
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myname24So flashing is the only way to go22:55
Palistock kernel not booting?22:55
infobotwell, zimage-fb is on
Palitry to load/boot kernel zImage-fb-omap1-pr13 from ^^^22:56
myname24I'll try it right now22:56
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myname24Using "--flash-only=kernel" command ?22:58
Palisame as you loaded rescueOS but without initfs22:59
Paliflasher-3.5 -l -k kernel -b23:00
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myname24Pali, Still stuck at nokia logo23:09
Paliand debug output?23:09
Paliabove kernel using framebuffer for debug output23:09
myname24I'll try to read it . Hard because no backlight . Wait a sec23:11
Palimyname24: is it kernel panic? could not start init?23:13
Palior could not open VFS?23:13
Palior you see dots?23:13
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myname24Pali: failed to execut /sbin/preinit and the last line was kernel panic23:21
Pali[21:50:48] <Pali> or check if you have correct (not damaged) file /sbin/preinit23:21
Paliuse rescueOS to revert that file23:22
PaliI bet that multiboot it renamed to some /sbin/preinit.<backup>23:22
Palior similar23:22
myname24I did replace it yesterday when using the rescueos . I'll do it again .23:22
Palicheck for executable flag23:22
Palichmod +x file23:23
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myname24I'm checking23:25
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myname24After restoring /sbin/preinit and i unpacked stock kernel modules i got modules not loaded23:39
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