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| zamn900 | hi all | 11:07 |
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| zamn900 | is a microsd of 2gb enough for nitdroid? | 11:08 |
| zamn900 | hey anyway my camera is black | 11:10 |
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| zamn900 | I never tried bless after last reflah | 11:16 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 waves | 11:19 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | details, even | 11:20 |
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| zamn900 | alright I ve solved my problem removing and reinstalling all programs conflicting with the new cssu camera-ui... | 12:03 |
| zamn900 | anyway I want shortcut keybuttons customizables and I don't find any app for that | 12:04 |
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| zamn900 | please all is just missing but would be very awesome is the shortcut key customizable | 12:08 |
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| zamn900 | hi all again | 13:26 |
| zamn900 | how to have automatic clock update? | 13:27 |
| zamn900 | shall I set it by myself all the times I switch battery? | 13:27 |
| jaska | hmm, mine updates on reboot | 13:27 |
| jaska | settings -> date and time -> update automatically | 13:28 |
| jaska | think it pulls the time off the gsm network | 13:28 |
| jaska | as i have no ntp setup on it | 13:28 |
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| zamn900 | apt-get install ntp no candidate? | 13:53 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: how do I use gnokii on the n900? | 13:54 |
| jon_y | which port? | 13:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err, via pnatd | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pnatd creates a virtual tty in your console | 13:56 |
| jon_y | ok, so I need to have pnatd running in another console first? | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or do sth like gnokii <(pnatd) | 13:57 |
| jon_y | hmm, pnatd doesn't seem to do anything | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry i'm busy. No time to work out the details | 13:57 |
| jon_y | ok | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xterm | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pnatd | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AT | 13:57 |
| zamn900 | DocScrutinizer05, good job | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >OK | 13:57 |
| zamn900 | go ahead to work | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATFOO | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >ERROR | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATI | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATD004991130838545 | 13:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATH | 13:59 |
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| jon_y | hmm | 13:59 |
| jon_y | I see | 14:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | also see pnatd -help | 14:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can tell pnatd which ptty to open/create iirc | 14:03 |
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| jon_y | hmm, does it matter if I use ttyS0? | 14:12 |
| jon_y | it is already there | 14:12 |
| jon_y | but gnokii still can't connect to it | 14:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | mmmpf, netsplit? | 14:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, local connectivity issue it seems | 14:17 |
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| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: got it to talk to pnatd somewhat | 14:41 |
| jon_y | but ends with unknown error when trying to retrieve sms | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, toldya pnatd (or BB5 itself) probably doesn't support it | 14:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the modem firmware is 'optimized' for the N900 so some functions common to other modems are not available in BB5 since userland/APE is supposed to take care of that task. Like SMS | 14:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~phonecontrol | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...has a few python and other programs to send and receive SMS, but _not_ to download SMs from SIM | 14:44 |
| jon_y | :( | 14:48 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: can the nokia phone suite retrieve sms? | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NFC, afaik it's a windows program, and windows is a virus that pretends to be an OS I heard. IOW I never used that | 14:50 |
| jon_y | yeah, I need a semi smartphone to extract it, possibly | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | very likely though it neither has access to SIMborne SMS | 14:51 |
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| LowMemory | hello maemo users | 15:50 |
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| zamn900 | hello | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi LowMemory! :-) | 16:06 |
| LowMemory | DocScrutinizer05: hi DocScrutinizer05 :) | 16:07 |
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| LowMemory | so how do I get root account on servers ? :-D | 16:07 |
| LowMemory | seriously: is there something like a weekly/monthly e-meeting ? | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LowMemory: we currently have no urgently pending tasks in exactly maemo maintenance, we however have long pending stuff like optimizing PHP scripts that use midgard function calls that leak memory | 16:08 |
| LowMemory | okay, is code public ? (on gitorious, github or whatever ?) | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's not exactly secret | 16:09 |
| LowMemory | maybe a forge on a maemo server ? | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know if and where it's hostend in some SVN, though I suspect it should be | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mompls | 16:09 |
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| LowMemory | I have setup a gitlab not long ago… We may use it (as soon as I talk my teammates and see how to keep other users data separated). | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got an invitation | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I'm too busy right ATM to do a proper introduction chat with you | 16:12 |
| LowMemory | DocScrutinizer05: no problem, I'm busy too | 16:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | You got invited to our admin channel where others should be around that can explain a few internal sto you | 16:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot RESURRECT!! | 16:41 |
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| infobot | DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 16:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: that took a while! | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status | 16:43 |
| infobot | Since Thu Nov 7 14:41:35 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 2m 10s this session, and currently reference 119186 factoids. I'm using about 18376 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.66/0.11 child 0/0 | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 16:44 |
| infobot | - Uptime for apt - | 16:44 |
| infobot | Now: 2m 30s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 16:44 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 16:44 |
| infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 16:44 |
| infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 16:44 |
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| felipec | is anybody using N900 usbnet on recent kernels? | 22:04 |
| Pali | what do you mean by recent? | 22:08 |
| Pali | 3.x? | 22:08 |
| felipec | Pali: ~3.10 | 22:09 |
| felipec | Pali: but I mean 3.10 on the PC | 22:09 |
| Pali | do you mean recent kernel with usb gadget on n900? | 22:10 |
| Pali | or stock kernel on n900 and 3.10 on PC? | 22:10 |
| Pali | or both 3.10 on n900 and PC? | 22:10 |
| felipec | Pali: stock kernel on n900, ~3.10 on PC | 22:11 |
| felipec | actually any kernel on n900 | 22:11 |
| Pali | ok, then I'm using usb networking in this way :-) | 22:11 |
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| felipec | Pali: it doesn't work for me =/ | 22:11 |
| Pali | felipec: do you see usb0 on PC? | 22:12 |
| felipec | it works with the N9, not N900 | 22:12 |
| Pali | what is in dmesg? | 22:12 |
| felipec | Pali: yeah | 22:12 |
| Pali | so what not working? | 22:12 |
| Pali | ping? | 22:12 |
| Pali | link? | 22:12 |
| Pali | assigning address? | 22:12 |
| felipec | Pali: link is not working, then I force it, ping is not working | 22:12 |
| Pali | link is not working --> this can be caused on n900 side | 22:12 |
| Pali | check if you have link on n900 | 22:13 |
| Pali | try to run on n900: ifup usb0 | 22:13 |
| felipec | Pali: how do I do that? | 22:13 |
| Pali | (as root) | 22:13 |
| felipec | Pali: that works | 22:13 |
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| Pali | give me output of ifconfig usb0 (on n900) | 22:13 |
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| felipec | Pali: that would be tedious to copy by hand... the IP is there, it says UP, RX packets, no TX packets | 22:15 |
| Pali | this is not enough, you need running | 22:15 |
| felipec | Pali: also running | 22:16 |
| felipec | I'm going to try 3.0 | 22:16 |
| felipec | btb | 22:16 |
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| felipec | hmm, I see a ton of errors in dmesg | 22:19 |
| felipec | [ 74.407052] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: detected XactErr len 0/1514 retry 1 | 22:19 |
| Pali | HW problem? | 22:23 |
| felipec | Pali: on the N900? | 22:23 |
| felipec | could be | 22:24 |
| Pali | maybe... | 22:24 |
| Pali | or on PC? | 22:24 |
| felipec | Pali: if it's on the PC why does the N9 work? | 22:24 |
| Pali | I have some problems with usb 3.0 ports and n900 | 22:24 |
| Pali | but on 2.0 ports working fine | 22:24 |
| felipec | Pali: I don't think I have 2.0 ports | 22:24 |
| Pali | and only n900 has problems with usb 3.0 | 22:24 |
| Pali | and what you have? only 3.0 ports? | 22:25 |
| felipec | Pali: I think so, yeah | 22:25 |
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| Pali | felipec: and why then are you using ehci drivers? | 22:26 |
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| Pali | for 3.0 you need xhci | 22:27 |
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| felipec | Pali: I have xhci | 22:27 |
| Pali | I mean "[21:19:56] <felipec> [ 74.407052] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: detected XactErr len 0/1514 retry 1" | 22:28 |
| felipec | Pali: CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y | 22:30 |
| Pali | ok | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | use a hub | 22:31 |
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| felipec | DocScrutinizer05: I don't have one | 22:32 |
| felipec | I tried with another N900, so it's not a hw problem of the device | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are known problems even with ohci or ehci drivers on PC, with N900 | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually not only with N900 | 22:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.geekdevs.com/2010/04/solved-unable-to-enumerate-usb-device-disabling-ehci_hcd/ | 22:34 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for link! | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 22:35 |
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| Pali | I tried to find way how to deregister ehci without recompiling kernel (with ehci removable module) | 22:36 |
| felipec | DocScrutinizer05: I recompiled my kernel to make it a module... let's see | 22:36 |
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| myname24 | Hi ,can | 22:37 |
| myname24 | anyone point me to how to chroot maemo | 22:40 |
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| myname24 | Hi ,can | 22:41 |
| myname24 | Hi , can | 22:41 |
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| myname24 | Hi ,can | 22:42 |
| myname24 | how to chroot maemo | 22:43 |
| Pali | I do not understand | 22:44 |
| Pali | from which system? | 22:44 |
| myname24 | how to chroot maemo | 22:44 |
| Pali | from? | 22:44 |
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| myname24 | I need to install sysklogd | 22:45 |
| myname24 | Ubuntu desktop | 22:45 |
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| Pali | and what you have maemo image? | 22:46 |
| myname24 | Because my device is unbootable right now . I removed multiboot and installed kernel power 52 and now it's in that state | 22:46 |
| Pali | ~flashing | 22:46 |
| infobot | from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 22:46 |
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| myname24 | I know about flashing :) i'm asking about solution that do need flash | 22:47 |
| myname24 | Do not* | 22:47 |
| Pali | so you broke rootfs and what to fix it, right? | 22:47 |
| Pali | only one solution is rescueOS | 22:47 |
| Pali | it is initfs with kernel which can be loaded via USB to n900 RAM without flashing | 22:48 |
| Pali | but you need to know *what* you need to fix | 22:48 |
| Pali | you need to know *what* you broken and *how* to fix it | 22:48 |
| myname24 | Yes i can load rescueos successfully | 22:48 |
| Pali | ~rescueOS | 22:48 |
| infobot | rescueos is, like, http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 22:48 |
| Pali | so fix what you broken :-) | 22:48 |
| Pali | I cannot help more | 22:49 |
| myname24 | The question is how to know *what* is broken :) | 22:49 |
| myname24 | Any log or something to look into | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot | 22:49 |
| infobot | well, maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED | 22:49 |
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| Pali | myname24: you can try to load stock kernel | 22:50 |
| Pali | (now when you know how to load it without flashing) | 22:50 |
| Pali | or check if you have correct (not damaged) file /sbin/preinit | 22:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | myname24: your kernel modules do not match the kernel in mtd1 | 22:51 |
| Pali | stock kernel modules are never uninstalled, so loading stock kernel can help | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly multiboot damages your system, thus ^^^^ | 22:51 |
| myname24 | I did unpack module from kernel power 52 and flash it via maemo flasher and still the same | 22:51 |
| Pali | "I did unpack module from kernel power 52" not enough | 22:52 |
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| Pali | you need to depmod | 22:52 |
| Pali | really, try to load/boot stock kernel | 22:52 |
| Pali | if this will not work, then ~flashing is needed | 22:52 |
| myname24 | I'm on cssu does it work ? | 22:52 |
| Pali | cssu-thumb? | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated | 22:52 |
| myname24 | Yes | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SOL | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 22:53 |
| infobot | methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 22:53 |
| Pali | try | 22:53 |
| Pali | you will see if it will work | 22:53 |
| Pali | you cannot broke phone more with trying to boot stock kernel | 22:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that's correct :-P | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | almost ;-P | 22:54 |
| Pali | only MALF can be wrotten to dsme state file | 22:54 |
| Pali | but this can be removed with R&D flag... | 22:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | he can enter bootloop | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and flatbat | 22:54 |
| Pali | ok, this is possible too | 22:54 |
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| myname24 | So flashing is the only way to go | 22:55 |
| Pali | stock kernel not booting? | 22:55 |
| Pali | ~zimage-fb | 22:55 |
| infobot | well, zimage-fb is on http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/maemo/kernels/framebuffer/ | 22:55 |
| Pali | try to load/boot kernel zImage-fb-omap1-pr13 from ^^^ | 22:56 |
| myname24 | I'll try it right now | 22:56 |
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| myname24 | Using "--flash-only=kernel" command ? | 22:58 |
| Pali | no | 22:59 |
| Pali | same as you loaded rescueOS but without initfs | 22:59 |
| Pali | flasher-3.5 -l -k kernel -b | 23:00 |
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| myname24 | Pali, Still stuck at nokia logo | 23:09 |
| Pali | and debug output? | 23:09 |
| Pali | above kernel using framebuffer for debug output | 23:09 |
| myname24 | I'll try to read it . Hard because no backlight . Wait a sec | 23:11 |
| Pali | myname24: is it kernel panic? could not start init? | 23:13 |
| Pali | or could not open VFS? | 23:13 |
| Pali | or you see dots? | 23:13 |
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| myname24 | Pali: failed to execut /sbin/preinit and the last line was kernel panic | 23:21 |
| Pali | [21:50:48] <Pali> or check if you have correct (not damaged) file /sbin/preinit | 23:21 |
| Pali | use rescueOS to revert that file | 23:22 |
| Pali | I bet that multiboot it renamed to some /sbin/preinit.<backup> | 23:22 |
| Pali | or similar | 23:22 |
| myname24 | I did replace it yesterday when using the rescueos . I'll do it again . | 23:22 |
| Pali | check for executable flag | 23:22 |
| Pali | chmod +x file | 23:23 |
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| myname24 | I'm checking | 23:25 |
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| myname24 | After restoring /sbin/preinit and i unpacked stock kernel modules i got modules not loaded | 23:39 |
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