IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2013-10-13

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DocScrutinizer05zammy: last warning! fix that auto-away messages!00:27
zammyI hate this kind of threat00:28
zammythreat suck00:28
bef0rdlol00:28
DocScrutinizer05ok, if you prefer action00:28
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zammyI prefer you do as all of all others channels do00:29
zammydo yours and I do mine00:30
zammywe already talked about that00:30
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DocScrutinizer05so you're saying you intentionally ignored previous requests to stop spamming the cahnnel with auto.away messages?00:32
Palithese messages "22:32:27 * zammy is away: I'm busy" are not acceptable00:32
zammyI did not spam... again... we talked about this also00:32
zammythat's not spam00:33
DocScrutinizer05ok00:33
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bef0rdyou were warned twice zammy, those automessages are not accepted here, stop whining00:33
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xes:)00:34
* Wizzup is still here00:34
* Wizzup ducks00:34
Wizzup:D00:34
Pali~seen zammy00:35
infobotzammy <~sammy@ppp-154-184.98-62.inwind.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2m 24s ago, saying: 'that's not spam'.00:35
DocScrutinizer05querying me, continuing arguing about our weird channel with its weird ops00:36
Paliautoaway messages or autoaway nick change is not acceptable on any channel...00:41
DocScrutinizer05~autoaway00:42
infoboti guess autoaway is We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. So please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. In BX, /set auto_away off. /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying.00:42
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo autoaway00:42
infobotautoaway -- last modified at Thu Jun  2 00:34:33 2005 by blitzrage!~blitzrage@blitzrage.documenter.extraordinaire.of.asterisk; it has been requested 7 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 41s ago.00:42
Pali#maemo channel is first channel from where he was kicked?00:43
Paliyear 2005?00:43
DocScrutinizer05no idea00:43
Paliinfobot is too old :-)00:43
DocScrutinizer05> >Here is the message that has just been posted :************** *Why to put a screen résistif that a captive screen ?<< Me can't stop headdesking00:45
DrCodehi all00:45
DrCodedose erming-ng work ?00:46
DrCodeI want to sync my calander00:46
Palihi, I used erming 2 years ago before stopped working...00:46
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Palino idea if working or not again00:47
DrCodeok00:47
Paligoogle decided to stop caldav api00:47
DocScrutinizer05DrCode: I don't think the answers will change when you ask the 5th time00:47
DrCodeis there other way?00:47
Palialso google stopping carddav (for contacts)00:48
Paliand jabber/xmpp00:48
DrCodesorrry I didnt so the answwerr00:48
DrCodeI see00:48
Palinow hangout users cannot talk outside google network00:48
Palithose who are connecting via xmpp they still can00:48
Palibut nobody know how long00:49
Paliyou can try if caldav protocol still working for calendar sync00:49
Palithere is syncevolution program00:49
DrCodeso only to use syncml with my own server?00:49
PaliI really do not know00:50
DrCodeok00:50
PaliI do not syncing calendar00:50
DrCodethnakyou00:50
Palitry if syncevolution will work with google00:50
DrCodethankuyou00:50
Paliand if not, start your own syncml server00:51
DrCodeok00:51
Paligoogle services are supportless00:51
Palibetter to not use them00:51
DrCodeI can build syncml service that will sync mail calander and contacts?00:53
DrCodethen syncevolution will sync with this service?00:53
DocScrutinizer05that's what it's built for00:54
DrCodeok00:54
DrCodethankyou00:54
Palirather use carddav/caldav/imap protocols as syncml00:54
DrCodeok thnkyou00:55
Palifirst two are extenstion of webdav, so you can access contacts/calendar on any platform (which support webdav)00:55
Paliand imap (with standard extenstions) is I think better for email access00:56
Paliand more used00:56
Palianyway microsoft also added imap support for their email service :D00:58
Palibut maybe for email access some new protocol based on relational calculus can be better as imap01:00
Palimore times I need to get/read only emails which have specific subject and/or specific from/to/other header01:01
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zammylook I wanna test the away feature13:49
DocScrutinizer05~autoaway13:49
infobotautoaway is probably We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. So please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. In BX, /set auto_away off. /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying.13:49
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo autoaway13:50
infobotautoaway -- last modified at Thu Jun  2 00:34:33 2005 by blitzrage!~blitzrage@blitzrage.documenter.extraordinaire.of.asterisk; it has been requested 8 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 45s ago.13:50
zammysee no auto message13:50
zammy?13:50
DocScrutinizer05ok here13:51
DocScrutinizer05no message13:51
PaliI did not see anything13:51
zammyI try again look13:51
zammysee?13:51
zammymy nick get gray but no auto message13:51
DocScrutinizer05ok13:51
zammyoh finally I got how to...13:52
zammythank you for the second chance and I hope in future more patience... I can handle mostly all things...13:52
DocScrutinizer05:-)13:53
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zammythe highlighted warn I suggest to put is that this channel is for phones and that automessages and useless notice are absolutely and hightlitghned not allowed13:54
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zammyso if some new get banned inside the explanation of ban should be readable that13:55
bindiall I can say is wtf13:55
zammyor in topic13:55
bindi=D13:55
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zammyseriously guys I was thinking at first you were joking about that strict rule about automessage... and was months ago... but yesterday I got there was no joke... I has never been clear to me that13:57
zammy*It13:58
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DocScrutinizer05zammy: a few tips that may help steer clear of trouble on IRC: check users you're talking with by /whois <user>, this might give away who's a long term member. And a "/msg chanserc access list" shows who's chanop, you possibly don't want to annoy those too much14:01
DocScrutinizer05sorry typo14:01
DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv access list14:01
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DocScrutinizer05grr14:01
DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv access #maemo list14:02
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DocScrutinizer05a few background reads: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html14:10
zammythe assumption is different... I can always think that operators can joke too... as well as all chatters14:10
zammybut rules I could not read... that's not assumption matter... that would be good... if I could read them14:12
DocScrutinizer05when a joke is so good that 3 users do it independently each time somebody pulls the trigger like posting auto-away msg, then you'd expect to see it more often ;-)14:12
DocScrutinizer05if however it's not a funny but annoying trigger, then you should start to worry when several times several users concurrently tell you to stop a certain behaviour14:14
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C_coded_HAL_386hello is the cssu update communtiy driven has N900 been droped by NOKIA16:41
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jonwilyes it is16:43
C_coded_HAL_386i had a problem with gmail in email client and facebook widget though after installing the cssu it was all fixed now my N900 is like new16:43
jonwilcssu is community driven16:44
jonwilby people like me who write code and reverse engineer stuff :)16:44
C_coded_HAL_386thanks to the community16:44
C_coded_HAL_386long live Maemo.org and all who vist it16:45
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C_coded_HAL_386what do you do - <jonwil> ?16:46
C_coded_HAL_386may I ask16:46
jonwilreverse engineering16:46
C_coded_HAL_386nice16:46
jonwilwriting bits of code16:46
C_coded_HAL_386is the a port for dalvik16:46
jonwilnope16:46
C_coded_HAL_386for N90016:46
C_coded_HAL_386ok16:46
jonwilI wrote http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/connui-home-cellular for example16:46
jonwilwell most of it16:47
C_coded_HAL_386what does it do?16:47
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jonwilmostly its for displaying the operator name on the homescreen16:53
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jonwilbut if your cell network supports it, the widget can also display the cell tower name (whatever your cell tower transmits, if anything)16:53
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C_coded_HAL_386ok16:53
C_coded_HAL_386coll16:53
C_coded_HAL_386cool16:53
C_coded_HAL_386Do you use NOKIA N90016:54
jonwilyes I do16:54
jonwilbest phone ever made :)16:54
C_coded_HAL_386indeed16:54
jonwilbetter than any iPhone16:54
jonwilor Android phone16:54
C_coded_HAL_386indeed16:54
C_coded_HAL_386whart of NOKIA N916:54
jonwilN900 is much better than N916:55
C_coded_HAL_386true16:55
C_coded_HAL_386i real like my N90016:55
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C_coded_HAL_386really16:55
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