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marcdeop | what's the next step on that? | 00:22 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 00:36 |
kerio | maybe a video! | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a video of what? | 00:37 |
kerio | idk, of a neo900 | 00:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there is no Neo900 existing yet | 00:38 |
kerio | yeah but we don't necessarily have to tell them | 00:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hah, ok | 00:39 |
kerio | that photo is also not a photo of a neo900 | 00:40 |
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sixwheeledbeast | marcdeop: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_ssu_pr1-2_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ Not installable due to incorrect or missing catalogues? Pkg conflict? | 01:29 |
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xes | sixwheeledbeast: this is not related to that package but to the nokia "Maemo 5 device SSU repository": http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62576 | 01:43 |
xes | sixwheeledbeast: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps | 01:45 |
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jonwil | hmmm, still not sure if the Neo900 software stuff should go on wiki.maemo.org or somewhere else... | 04:54 |
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qwerty123 | hey!! help wit lockcode.. its not showing any hash !! | 05:14 |
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qwerty123 | Srry net hadgone down!! | 05:20 |
qwerty123 | Please help me with the lockcode!! | 05:20 |
nox- | ~lockcode | 05:36 |
infobot | somebody said lockcode was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 | 05:36 |
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qwerty123 | Its not giving any hash from that /dev/mtd1 code!! | 05:42 |
nox- | oh | 05:43 |
* nox- dunno then | 05:43 | |
nox- | maybe DocScrutinizer05 knows | 05:43 |
qwerty123 | :( is he available now?? There in tmo thread, lies a similar but unsolved query!! | 05:44 |
nox- | yeah probably sleeping now | 05:46 |
qwerty123 | Umm :( | 05:51 |
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Macer | fb fixed their xmpp | 06:09 |
Macer | :) | 06:09 |
Macer | good stuff | 06:09 |
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Luke-Jr | Macer: no they didn't | 06:42 |
Luke-Jr | I guess TLS works | 06:43 |
Luke-Jr | but still, is it really fixed without federation? :p | 06:43 |
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Macer | Luke-Jr: heh. fk federation | 07:58 |
Macer | google is dumpung xmpp altogether and "closing" shop | 07:58 |
Macer | dumping | 07:58 |
Macer | they have also closede their exchange connector for gmail | 07:59 |
Macer | only gapps customers can sync calendars and contacts in win8 | 07:59 |
Macer | so windows phones, blackberries, and probably even ios | 08:00 |
Macer | no more google synching | 08:00 |
Macer | only imap for gmail users | 08:00 |
Macer | google = the next closed conglomerate | 08:01 |
Macer | pulled a us govt... sucked people in for a few years with promises of free stuff ... then took the freedom away later after millions were stuck lol | 08:01 |
Macer | and still have ads :) | 08:02 |
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SAiF | Question: powervrsgx530 on neo 900? | 09:27 |
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xkr47 | heh, when n900 is in offline mode I can't even use usb networking | 09:35 |
xkr47 | well, I perceived it as "radio off" mode, but obviously it's really offline now :) | 09:35 |
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jonwil | hmmm, I wonder if the Neo900 software discussion should go on wiki.maemo.org or if it should go somewhere else... | 12:00 |
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* ShadowJK hates discussions on wikis, and hates collections of information and instructions on forums | 12:09 | |
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jonwil | well I was talking about information i.e. dbus etc | 13:20 |
jonwil | so not discussion per se | 13:20 |
jonwil | but info | 13:20 |
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Sicelo | xkr47: you can use dbus to shutdown only modem/radio | 14:11 |
Sicelo | quick way is to use MohammadAG's phone-control package | 14:11 |
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* sixwheeledbeast agrees with ShadowJK | 18:13 | |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 18:37 |
Sicelo | hmm | 18:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you can have a limited amount of discussion on the "discussion" aka "talk" page associated to every wiki main page | 18:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but generally you use wiki to collect factoids and data, while you use mail or forum (tmo) for discussion about that very wiki page | 18:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | umm sb highlighted me? | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no idea about latest news regarding unlock device-lock | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what I know however is that gnu-utils fail with the original instruction how to grep the devicelock hash from dev/mtd1 | 18:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | root:Übereinstimmungen in Binärdatei /dev/mtd1.: | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# echo root:$(busybox grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | root:OybLWXCdkad.E: | 18:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# which grep | 18:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/gnu/grep | 18:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | meh, neither nox nor qwerty123 around | 18:45 |
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sixwheeledbeast | IMO the discussion part of the wiki is more for notes and should be signed "~~~". If a "discussion" is required a link to a TMO page should be provided in the Talk page of the wiki instead. | 18:48 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | epic: [2013-09-12 16:37:45] <Sculptor> sipping coke and eating corn flips [2013-09-12 16:38:27] <prog> sniffing coke and watching porn clips? | 18:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: absolutely! | 18:53 |
sixwheeledbeast | Any reason why you have posted your lock code hash o.O | 18:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | try to john it! ;-P | 18:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ...while a giggle | 18:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/ a / I / | 18:59 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: ...while I giggle | 18:59 |
sixwheeledbeast | I would have but I removed john when I cracked all my/my friends lockcodes :) | 19:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be surprised it *that* hash actually could get cracked at all, and I'd be more than just curious about the clear text password it finds for that hash | 19:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then OTOH I wouldn't mind you finding out about my device lockcode | 19:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it's actually unset anyway | 19:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and probably the hash above been hash for the default "12345" | 19:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | before I censored it ;-) | 19:05 |
kerio | by the way | 19:06 |
kerio | can't we get shadow passwords like any real linux distro? | 19:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err, in theory yes | 19:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "like a real multi-user linux" you meant | 19:07 |
sixwheeledbeast | It's a shame these lockcodes aren't alpha-numeric john would take a lifetime to calculate. | 19:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter | 19:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | if you can read out lockcode hash, you have full (root) access to device already | 19:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: first problem: messybox doesn't support shadow | 19:11 |
kerio | isn't it just a matter of libc? | 19:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | afaik nope | 19:12 |
jonwil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Porting/Closed_Packages | 19:12 |
jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1373878&postcount=20 | 19:12 |
jonwil | so now we have a place to start collecting more info on what to do with the various closed packages going forward | 19:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: great! :-D | 19:13 |
sixwheeledbeast | yes I suppose. I was thinking from a stolen device perspective. | 19:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | stolen device has no access to dev/mtd1 | 19:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | unless you use rescueOS, and thenm you don't need lockcode anymore | 19:14 |
jonwil | Feel free to read what I put and provide your own thoughts (editing the wiki page or posting in the tmo thread) | 19:14 |
kerio | stolen device has every access to everything | 19:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's the way! | 19:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks jonwil! | 19:14 |
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jonwil | likely there are others who know more about the intended hardware architecture of the Neo900 (and the hardware architecture of the GTA04) than I do and can identify for example if the USB stack is different (requiring us to clone/replace the USB status bar widget) or if its close enough that differences can be handled in kernel or other lower-level open bits | 19:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I will check | 19:16 |
jonwil | or for example just how different the camera system will be (and therefore which bits of the camera system we need to replace) | 19:16 |
jonwil | or whatever | 19:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for USB the differences as seen in userland are negligible | 19:17 |
jonwil | anyhow, I have done what I can at this point re that list | 19:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks! :-) | 19:17 |
jonwil | will neo900 support OTG/host mode? | 19:17 |
* DocScrutinizer05 has to run | 19:17 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | bbl | 19:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: yes, natively, like beagleboard | 19:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | even with proper AB-receptacle | 19:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | should work OOTB with mainline kernel | 19:18 |
jonwil | see, that might mean that replacing the USB status bar widget is necessary so as to support host mode in it too :) | 19:18 |
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jonwil | just for one example of why we need to examine that list and figure stuff out :) | 19:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 19:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | just that current USB widget doesn't support any hostmode at all | 19:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bbl | 19:19 |
kerio | does the gta04 have usb otg? or some more proper host mode | 19:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | OTG | 19:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | see the very fine manual! | 19:20 |
kerio | well, we don't even need UI for that, do we | 19:21 |
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jase21 | Hi, is there any way to know user account creation time? | 19:41 |
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sledges | a long shot: ls -ld /home/ | 19:53 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ls -ld $HOME ? | 20:00 |
sledges | wouldn't that show the date of the last modified file under $HOME/* | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | with -d? | 20:00 |
sledges | yes | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | try it! | 20:00 |
sledges | the parent directory date inherits the change | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | oh well | 20:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you're probably right | 20:01 |
sledges | tried :) | 20:01 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | o/ Woody14619 | 20:20 |
Woody14619 | Hello :) | 20:21 |
Woody14619 | Interesting: Cannot join ##maemo-admin (Channel is invite only). | 20:21 |
Woody14619 | Changing authentication again? | 20:21 |
ashley | Woody14619: try /cs invite ##maemo-admin | 20:22 |
ashley | (you need to invite yourself to the channel, apparently, if you don't have +I set for your IP or cloak) | 20:23 |
Woody14619 | -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation | 20:24 |
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Woody14619 | Could just be a I need to reauth. Been on a while. I need to reboot the PC in a minute anyway after MS installs it's crapware/updates. :P | 20:27 |
Woody14619 | Ugh... 7 of 23? This is going to take a while. | 20:27 |
thedead1440 | Woody14619: indeed; reauth your nick and you should be able to get in. | 20:27 |
ashley | only 23? ;-) | 20:27 |
ashley | I had a laptop that I hadn't used for a few months and when I had to boot it up a while ago, it ended up installing like 50 updates | 20:28 |
Woody14619 | How I know Winblows has been improving: It's been running almost 3 weeks solid w/o a reboot. Only ~200 more to almost be a viable server OS! :P | 20:30 |
Woody14619 | Sigh.. 13 of 23. Right, time to get coffee. :P BBL. | 20:31 |
ashley | three /weeks/? consider me impressed -- I'm lucky if mine doesn't overheat when I try to play games from the 90s ;-) (it's not completely Windows' fault, but eh, still) | 20:31 |
Woody14619 | Win7 is actually pretty usable... Have to say, best thing since 98 in my book. But then that's like comparing apples and jumbo-jets. xD | 20:33 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: you need to be authenticated | 20:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-09-12 19:48:05] [Notice] -NickServ- Last seen : Sep 09 07:18:29 2013 (3 days, 10:29:36 ago) | 20:48 |
Woody14619 | odd... Time to reboot. :) | 20:53 |
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marcdeop | sixwheeledbeast: I'm gonna check it out | 21:00 |
sixwheeledbeast | k | 21:00 |
marcdeop | (sorry for the late response, I didn't open the chat client until now) | 21:02 |
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marcdeop | I'm not sure I have that repo enabled | 21:10 |
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marcdeop | sixwheeledbeast: how do I enable that repo? :S | 21:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | please pastebin your Catalogues from HAM | 21:19 |
marcdeop | http://pastebin.com/iG9iBkg6 | 21:20 |
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marcdeop | if you give me the repository address, I'll add it myself :-) | 21:24 |
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sixwheeledbeast | marcdeop: you are missing the stock nokia SSU repo also extras-testing is best to be disabled after use. | 21:25 |
marcdeop | can you provide me the repository adress? | 21:26 |
marcdeop | is this it? https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps | 21:27 |
sixwheeledbeast | no thats the apps one. | 21:27 |
sixwheeledbeast | "https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/203" for me, but possibly because I am on UK variant | 21:29 |
marcdeop | it doesn't really matter, it gives me Access Denied | 21:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | should be in base repo. Change your N900 system date to 2011 | 21:30 |
marcdeop | DocScrutinizer05: what would that make? | 21:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | fix the damn "key expired" issue Nokia so brilliantly introduced with their repo | 21:30 |
mashina | you can flash (like i did) too | 21:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | stoh into the blue, maybe it works, maybe not | 21:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | shot* | 21:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/b8754767ab | 21:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ no damn .deb | 21:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/pcre3/libpcre3_6.7-1osso1+r1_armel.deb | 21:34 |
marcdeop | W: Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages The requested URL returned error: 404 | 21:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk_free_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ | 21:34 |
sixwheeledbeast | marcdeop: you will be rejected on a web browser | 21:34 |
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marcdeop | that's from "apt-get update" | 21:35 |
marcdeop | I installed through dpkg -i | 21:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | downloads.maemo.nokia.com :-S | 21:35 |
marcdeop | and now I can install syncevolution | 21:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | they're going to scrap the maemo repos, eh? | 21:35 |
marcdeop | still... how on earth could I enable the proper repo? | 21:35 |
marcdeop | well... nokia is not Microsoft, isn't it? | 21:36 |
marcdeop | s/not/now | 21:36 |
sixwheeledbeast | I can download from the Nokia SSU repo fine here. | 21:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk_free_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ | 21:36 |
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sixwheeledbeast | Even with expiredkeys it just asks you are you sure again | 21:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 21:37 |
sixwheeledbeast | if you have added the correct repo and distribution sections in HAM, it should have worked fine with "apt-get install syncevo*" | 21:39 |
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sixwheeledbeast | distribution is "./" FWIW | 21:39 |
marcdeop | sixwheeledbeast: that I did not have | 21:40 |
* sixwheeledbeast wonders why the Nokia SSU and Nokia Apps was missing in the first place... | 21:41 | |
sixwheeledbeast | I can't delete them from HAM on my device. | 21:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | WOW, that's what I call a flat battery: 3 times dim red flashing, then it went into steady amber emergency charge | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | before it booted to charging mode after 20s | 21:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the 3 dim short flashes though are the interesting bit | 21:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bq24150 battery-present test failed | 21:43 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | probably the gracious donor should have removed battery before sending the device ;-) | 21:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I'm amazed it charges at all, now | 21:45 |
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sixwheeledbeast | ~flatbatrecover | 21:47 |
infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover | 21:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | ? | 21:47 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I've never seen flatbat steady amber last longer than max 60s | 21:55 |
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brolin_empey | freemangordon: Pali: Have you seen https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=7070&group_id=1528&atid=5523 and https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=7071&group_id=1528&atid=5523 ? | 22:05 |
Pali | no | 22:06 |
Pali | will look at it | 22:06 |
brolin_empey | Pali: Seriously? I submitted both of them almost 1 month ago. :/ | 22:07 |
Pali | I did not get any email notification | 22:07 |
Pali | freemangordon: garage email notifications not working | 22:08 |
Pali | and I cannot find download button for file dm9601_backport_all_product_entries_added_to_mainline_kernel_as_of_2013-08-15.patch | 22:08 |
brolin_empey | Pali: OK. Please include my 2 patches in the next kernel-power release. | 22:11 |
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Pali | I cannot download them | 22:11 |
Pali | garage is broken | 22:12 |
Pali | I cannot download patches | 22:12 |
freemangordon | :( | 22:12 |
Pali | download buttons missing | 22:12 |
brolin_empey | Pali: Are you logged into https://garage.maemo.org/ ? | 22:12 |
Pali | yes | 22:12 |
Pali | I can close bug | 22:12 |
Pali | and change subject | 22:13 |
Pali | and other options | 22:13 |
Pali | but not download that file | 22:13 |
freemangordon | "No Files Currently Attached" | 22:14 |
freemangordon | "File Added983: dm9601_backport_all_product_entries_added_to_mainline_kernel_as_of_2013-08-15.patch" | 22:14 |
freemangordon | brolin_empey: send those via e-mail, we might not be able to fix garage soon | 22:17 |
marcdeop | by the way sixwheeledbeast and DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/G6Pe1UEk | 22:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | yep that looks good now. obviously normal warnings on extras-devel content. | 22:19 |
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marcdeop | that's alright ;-) | 22:22 |
marcdeop | I need it to install syncevolution | 22:22 |
marcdeop | otherwise can't sync my webdav/caldav | 22:22 |
marcdeop | it's failing anyway :( | 22:22 |
marcdeop | sixwheeledbeast: it was obviously a mistake on my side ;-) | 22:23 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg | 22:24 |
infobot | i heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 22:24 |
sixwheeledbeast | :nod: seems another packages stuck in devel | 22:25 |
wnd | Not intending to hijack the conversation, but what's the deal with gtalk/telepathy stopping to work every now and then? I can't remember what I had to do the last time to fix it or if it just started to work on its own. All I do remember is that it didn't work for at least for a couple of weeks. | 22:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it starts with "g" - not my business ;-D | 22:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | gmail, gtalk, gconf | 22:29 |
brolin_empey | freemangordon: Pali: Please see the comment I posted on both of the issues. | 22:42 |
Pali | ok | 22:46 |
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Pali | brolin_empey: patches looks ok, only adding new usb ids, this could be safe | 23:00 |
Pali | I will test if kernel working and then push changes to kernel-power garage git | 23:00 |
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brolin_empey | Pali: OK, thank you. | 23:04 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: thank you for adding those ethernet peripherals to the list of supported USB devices | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though I think somebody close to Linus has to put on his hat, stomp his rod, and announce that *all* kernel usb driver modules need to support ID= parameter | 23:31 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: On n900 I'm using usb ethernet adapter mcs7830.ko with 802.1X authentification via wpa_supplicant :D | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I had same friggin problem et least 5 times so far, with all sorts of USB devices | 23:32 |
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Pali | DocScrutinizer05: how you want to identify usb device if not via usb ID? | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | always going to binary-patch the *.ko sucks donkeyballs | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: eh? | 23:33 |
Pali | you need ID param | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | of course via USB ID | 23:33 |
Pali | otherwise you do not want which driver to use | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you completely missed my point, I think | 23:33 |
Pali | so? | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe acme | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | kernel acme: USB ID aaaa:bbbb not found | 23:34 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe acme ID=aaaf:bbbb | 23:34 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | kernel acme: detecte3d acme controller at bus 1:2 | 23:34 |
Pali | hm... | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so far I always had to binary-patch aaaa to aaaf in acme.ko | 23:35 |
Pali | this is not enough, because drivers has some "data" for usb ids | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey's patches are all the same issue | 23:35 |
Pali | as part of platform_driver structure | 23:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I don't see that | 23:36 |
Pali | but right, for similar patch there should be easy way... | 23:36 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I patched acme.ko from 0xaaaa to 0xaaaf and it worked | 23:36 |
Pali | data are needed only for some drivers and sometimes "data" structure is same for set of devices | 23:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's my point | 23:37 |
Pali | there should be way to force kernel to register usb device (with data) to usb driver via sysfs | 23:38 |
Pali | i2c bus has this support | 23:38 |
Pali | via sysfs | 23:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | when same chip using different USB manuf:product ID, then why the heck can't I tell driver about that change when I already know it | 23:38 |
ShadowJK | Stuff likr davicom drivers have lists of hundreds of usb IDs anyways. What usually happens is random manufacturer decides to make a davicom device, buys the chips, put them on a board, and add a random ID so that user is forced to use the driver they supply, instead of using a competitor's driver. | 23:38 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: really it is not possible to do via sysfs? | 23:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: exactly | 23:39 |
ShadowJK | (then when people discover that manufacturer's device is broken, the IDs are changed yet again so people think they fixed it) | 23:39 |
Pali | I know that it is possible to force some i2c device to connect to some i2c driver | 23:39 |
brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: You are welcome. | 23:40 |
Pali | I used that to connect i2c temperature sensor found on nvidia graphics card when proprietary nvidia driver did not registered sensor itself | 23:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | USB drivers basically do a lsusb and search for the manuf:product tuple | 23:41 |
Pali | and it worked without problem | 23:41 |
Pali | until I turned off X server | 23:41 |
Pali | nvidia has fucking drivers: for kernel i2c access you must start X server | 23:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | if the manuf:prod doesn't match what the fsckng driver has hardcoded in ints guts, it refuses to servie that device | 23:42 |
Pali | this is the most stupid thing which I have ever seen. | 23:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | check brolin_empey's patches (I didn't since I think I know almost to the char what they provide) | 23:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what I demand is a way to "patch" that list of known manuf:prod at kernel module load time | 23:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | via kernel cmdline parameter | 23:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | s/kernel/module/ | 23:44 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: via module cmdline parameter | 23:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | modprobe acme ID=aaaf:bbbb | 23:45 |
Pali | you can try to explain this to usb subsystem maintainer (Greg K-H) | 23:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | eeew | 23:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though K-H seems to be a cute guy | 23:45 |
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Pali | I bet that he reject it :D | 23:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I bet I have some days real fun then | 23:46 |
Pali | I remember how he closed all usb bugs in bugzilla | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'll publish an auto-binpatcher for kernel module ID lists | 23:46 |
Pali | reason: rather report bugs to ML, bugzilla is not how I want to read bugs... | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | integrated into modprobe X-P | 23:46 |
Pali | :D | 23:47 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, a wrapper kernel module | 23:47 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: you can use ksplice :-) and patch ids in live kernel too | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that takes the fsckng usb kernel module and the ID to patch in, as parameters | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | does ksplice work for all platforms now? FOSS? | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | last I checked I seem to recall it was some connercial crap that wasn't working at least on ARM | 23:49 |
Pali | I think ksplice working only for x86 | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | exactly | 23:49 |
Pali | but it is open source | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 23:49 |
Pali | maybe new versions are closed... | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, it's useless | 23:49 |
Pali | but old version worked | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no x86 in my phone, EVAAARRRR | 23:50 |
Pali | and was fully open source | 23:50 |
kerio | DocScrutinizer05: just emulate x86, jeez | 23:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 23:50 |
Pali | :D:D | 23:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | vmware? | 23:50 |
Pali | qemu | 23:50 |
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kerio | kvm, surely | 23:50 |
kerio | wait, does that do translation? | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | XEN | 23:51 |
Pali | kvm is only for 64bit arm | 23:51 |
kerio | k | 23:51 |
kerio | then qemu, i guess | 23:51 |
dos1 | vmware working on system running on qemu running on system running on xen | 23:51 |
kerio | nah, vmware is closed | 23:51 |
dos1 | to take advantage of each of those platforms | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure I seen vmware for N810 | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but they never shipped it | 23:51 |
kerio | was it virtualbox maybe? | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | errr N800? | 23:52 |
kerio | oh | 23:52 |
Pali | vmware is unconfigurable crap with eats all of ram | 23:52 |
Pali | it was qemu image :-) | 23:52 |
Pali | I have it somewhere... | 23:52 |
Pali | there are both n800 and n810 | 23:52 |
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Pali | google for Marcin Juszkiewicz Nokia N800 emulation | 23:53 |
Pali | and Nokia N8x0 emulation part II | 23:53 |
Pali | and Emulating a Nokia N800 with QEMU | 23:53 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ | 23:54 |
Pali | and you need mtd generator from: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/scripts/poky-nokia800-flashutil?h=elroy | 23:54 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | wonder why the heck VMWare never came up with it | 23:57 |
kerio | because it was probably a piece of shit | 23:57 |
Pali | because it was *vmware*! | 23:58 |
kerio | virtualbox has oracle logos all over | 23:58 |
kerio | which makes me really uncomfortable in using it | 23:58 |
* DocScrutinizer05 burrps and wonders if there's a real live out there, at this domain >2m away from this PC | 23:58 |
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