IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2013-09-12

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marcdeopwhat's the next step on that?00:22
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DocScrutinizer05hmm?00:36
keriomaybe a video!00:37
DocScrutinizer05a video of what?00:37
kerioidk, of a neo90000:38
DocScrutinizer05there is no Neo900 existing yet00:38
kerioyeah but we don't necessarily have to tell them00:38
DocScrutinizer05hah, ok00:39
keriothat photo is also not a photo of a neo90000:40
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sixwheeledbeastmarcdeop: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_ssu_pr1-2_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ Not installable due to incorrect or missing catalogues? Pkg conflict?01:29
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xessixwheeledbeast: this is not related to that package but to the nokia "Maemo 5 device SSU repository": http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6257601:43
xessixwheeledbeast: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps01:45
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jonwilhmmm, still not sure if the Neo900 software stuff should go on wiki.maemo.org or somewhere else...04:54
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qwerty123hey!! help wit lockcode.. its not showing any hash !!05:14
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qwerty123Srry net hadgone down!!05:20
qwerty123Please help me with the lockcode!!05:20
nox-~lockcode05:36
infobotsomebody said lockcode was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post52452205:36
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qwerty123Its not giving any hash from that /dev/mtd1 code!!05:42
nox-oh05:43
* nox- dunno then05:43
nox-maybe DocScrutinizer05 knows05:43
qwerty123:( is he available now?? There in tmo thread, lies a similar but unsolved query!!05:44
nox-yeah probably sleeping now05:46
qwerty123Umm :(05:51
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Macerfb fixed their xmpp06:09
Macer:)06:09
Macergood stuff06:09
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Luke-JrMacer: no they didn't06:42
Luke-JrI guess TLS works06:43
Luke-Jrbut still, is it really fixed without federation? :p06:43
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MacerLuke-Jr: heh. fk federation07:58
Macergoogle is dumpung xmpp altogether and "closing" shop07:58
Macerdumping07:58
Macerthey have also closede their exchange connector for gmail07:59
Maceronly gapps customers can sync calendars and contacts in win807:59
Macerso windows phones, blackberries, and probably even ios08:00
Macerno more google synching08:00
Maceronly imap for gmail users08:00
Macergoogle = the next closed conglomerate08:01
Macerpulled a us govt... sucked people in for a few years with promises of free stuff ... then took the freedom away later after millions were stuck lol08:01
Macerand still have ads :)08:02
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SAiFQuestion: powervrsgx530 on neo 900?09:27
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xkr47heh, when n900 is in offline mode I can't even use usb networking09:35
xkr47well, I perceived it as "radio off" mode, but obviously it's really offline now :)09:35
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jonwilhmmm, I wonder if the Neo900 software discussion should go on wiki.maemo.org or if it should go somewhere else...12:00
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* ShadowJK hates discussions on wikis, and hates collections of information and instructions on forums12:09
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jonwilwell I was talking about information i.e. dbus etc13:20
jonwilso not discussion per se13:20
jonwilbut info13:20
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Siceloxkr47: you can use dbus to shutdown only modem/radio14:11
Siceloquick way is to use MohammadAG's phone-control package14:11
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* sixwheeledbeast agrees with ShadowJK18:13
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DocScrutinizer05yes18:37
Sicelohmm18:37
DocScrutinizer05you can have a limited amount of discussion on the "discussion" aka "talk" page associated to every wiki main page18:37
DocScrutinizer05but generally you use wiki to collect factoids and data, while you use mail or forum (tmo) for discussion about that very wiki page18:38
DocScrutinizer05umm sb highlighted me?18:39
DocScrutinizer05sorry, no idea about latest news regarding unlock device-lock18:40
DocScrutinizer05what I know however is that gnu-utils fail with the original instruction how to grep the devicelock hash from dev/mtd118:41
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1):18:43
DocScrutinizer05root:Übereinstimmungen in Binärdatei /dev/mtd1.:18:43
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# echo root:$(busybox grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1):18:43
DocScrutinizer05root:OybLWXCdkad.E:18:43
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# which grep18:44
DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/gnu/grep18:44
DocScrutinizer05meh, neither nox nor qwerty123 around18:45
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sixwheeledbeastIMO the discussion part of the wiki is more for notes and should be signed "~~~". If a "discussion" is required a link to a TMO page should be provided in the Talk page of the wiki instead.18:48
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DocScrutinizer05epic: [2013-09-12 16:37:45] <Sculptor> sipping coke and eating corn flips     [2013-09-12 16:38:27] <prog> sniffing coke and watching porn clips?18:52
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: absolutely!18:53
sixwheeledbeastAny reason why you have posted your lock code hash o.O18:56
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DocScrutinizer05try to john it! ;-P18:58
DocScrutinizer05...while a giggle18:58
DocScrutinizer05s/ a / I /18:59
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: ...while I giggle18:59
sixwheeledbeastI would have but I removed john when I cracked all my/my friends lockcodes :)19:01
DocScrutinizer05I'd be surprised it *that* hash actually could get cracked at all, and I'd be more than just curious about the clear text password it finds for that hash19:02
DocScrutinizer05then OTOH I wouldn't mind you finding out about my device lockcode19:03
DocScrutinizer05it's actually unset anyway19:03
DocScrutinizer05and probably the hash above been hash for the default "12345"19:04
DocScrutinizer05before I censored it ;-)19:05
kerioby the way19:06
keriocan't we get shadow passwords like any real linux distro?19:06
DocScrutinizer05err, in theory yes19:06
DocScrutinizer05"like a real multi-user linux" you meant19:07
sixwheeledbeastIt's a shame these lockcodes aren't alpha-numeric john would take a lifetime to calculate.19:07
DocScrutinizer05doesn't matter19:08
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DocScrutinizer05if you can read out lockcode hash, you have full (root) access to device already19:08
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: first problem: messybox doesn't support shadow19:11
kerioisn't it just a matter of libc?19:12
DocScrutinizer05afaik nope19:12
jonwilhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Porting/Closed_Packages19:12
jonwilhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1373878&postcount=2019:12
jonwilso now we have a place to start collecting more info on what to do with the various closed packages going forward19:12
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: great! :-D19:13
sixwheeledbeastyes I suppose. I was thinking from a stolen device perspective.19:13
DocScrutinizer05stolen device has no access to dev/mtd119:13
DocScrutinizer05unless you use rescueOS, and thenm you don't need lockcode anymore19:14
jonwilFeel free to read what I put and provide your own thoughts (editing the wiki page or posting in the tmo thread)19:14
keriostolen device has every access to everything19:14
DocScrutinizer05that's the way!19:14
DocScrutinizer05thanks jonwil!19:14
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jonwillikely there are others who know more about the intended hardware architecture of the Neo900 (and the hardware architecture of the GTA04) than I do and can identify for example if the USB stack is different (requiring us to clone/replace the USB status bar widget) or if its close enough that differences can be handled in kernel or other lower-level open bits19:16
DocScrutinizer05I will check19:16
jonwilor for example just how different the camera system will be (and therefore which bits of the camera system we need to replace)19:16
jonwilor whatever19:17
DocScrutinizer05for USB the differences as seen in userland are negligible19:17
jonwilanyhow, I have done what I can at this point re that list19:17
DocScrutinizer05thanks! :-)19:17
jonwilwill neo900 support OTG/host mode?19:17
* DocScrutinizer05 has to run19:17
DocScrutinizer05bbl19:17
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: yes, natively, like beagleboard19:17
DocScrutinizer05even with proper AB-receptacle19:18
DocScrutinizer05should work OOTB with mainline kernel19:18
jonwilsee, that might mean that replacing the USB status bar widget is necessary so as to support host mode in it too :)19:18
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jonwiljust for one example of why we need to examine that list and figure stuff out :)19:18
DocScrutinizer05yep19:19
DocScrutinizer05just that current USB widget doesn't support any hostmode at all19:19
DocScrutinizer05bbl19:19
keriodoes the gta04 have usb otg? or some more proper host mode19:20
DocScrutinizer05OTG19:20
DocScrutinizer05see the very fine manual!19:20
keriowell, we don't even need UI for that, do we19:21
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jase21Hi, is there any way to know user account creation time?19:41
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sledgesa long shot: ls -ld /home/19:53
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DocScrutinizer05ls -ld $HOME ?20:00
sledgeswouldn't that show the date of the last modified file under $HOME/*20:00
DocScrutinizer05with -d?20:00
sledgesyes20:00
DocScrutinizer05try it!20:00
sledgesthe parent directory date inherits the change20:00
DocScrutinizer05oh well20:01
DocScrutinizer05you're probably right20:01
sledgestried :)20:01
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DocScrutinizer05o/ Woody1461920:20
Woody14619Hello :)20:21
Woody14619Interesting:   Cannot join ##maemo-admin (Channel is invite only).20:21
Woody14619Changing authentication again?20:21
ashleyWoody14619: try /cs invite ##maemo-admin20:22
ashley(you need to invite yourself to the channel, apparently, if you don't have +I set for your IP or cloak)20:23
Woody14619-ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation20:24
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Woody14619Could just be a I need to reauth.  Been on a while.  I need to reboot the PC in a minute anyway after MS installs it's crapware/updates. :P20:27
Woody14619Ugh... 7 of 23?  This is going to take a while.20:27
thedead1440Woody14619: indeed; reauth your nick and you should be able to get in.20:27
ashleyonly 23? ;-)20:27
ashleyI had a laptop that I hadn't used for a few months and when I had to boot it up a while ago, it ended up installing like 50 updates20:28
Woody14619How I know Winblows has been improving:  It's been running almost 3 weeks solid w/o a reboot.  Only ~200 more to almost be a viable server OS! :P20:30
Woody14619Sigh.. 13 of 23.  Right, time to get coffee. :P  BBL.20:31
ashleythree /weeks/? consider me impressed -- I'm lucky if mine doesn't overheat when I try to play games from the 90s ;-) (it's not completely Windows' fault, but eh, still)20:31
Woody14619Win7 is actually pretty usable... Have to say, best thing since 98 in my book.  But then that's like comparing apples and jumbo-jets. xD20:33
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DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: you need to be authenticated20:46
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DocScrutinizer05[2013-09-12 19:48:05] [Notice] -NickServ- Last seen  : Sep 09 07:18:29 2013 (3 days, 10:29:36 ago)20:48
Woody14619odd... Time to reboot. :)20:53
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marcdeopsixwheeledbeast: I'm gonna check it out21:00
sixwheeledbeastk21:00
marcdeop(sorry for the late response, I didn't open the chat client until now)21:02
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marcdeopI'm not sure I have that repo enabled21:10
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marcdeopsixwheeledbeast: how do I enable that repo? :S21:18
sixwheeledbeastplease pastebin your Catalogues from HAM21:19
marcdeophttp://pastebin.com/iG9iBkg621:20
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marcdeopif you give me the repository address, I'll add it myself :-)21:24
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sixwheeledbeastmarcdeop: you are missing the stock nokia SSU repo also extras-testing is best to be disabled after use.21:25
marcdeopcan you provide me the repository adress?21:26
marcdeopis this it? https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps21:27
sixwheeledbeastno thats the apps one.21:27
sixwheeledbeast"https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/203" for me, but possibly because I am on UK variant21:29
marcdeopit doesn't really matter, it gives me Access Denied21:29
DocScrutinizer05should be in base repo. Change your N900 system date to 201121:30
marcdeopDocScrutinizer05: what would that make?21:30
DocScrutinizer05fix the damn "key expired" issue Nokia so brilliantly introduced with their repo21:30
mashinayou can flash (like i did) too21:30
DocScrutinizer05stoh into the blue, maybe it works, maybe not21:31
DocScrutinizer05shot*21:31
DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/b8754767ab21:31
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/ no damn .deb21:33
DocScrutinizer05http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/p/pcre3/libpcre3_6.7-1osso1+r1_armel.deb21:34
marcdeopW: Failed to fetch https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages  The requested URL returned error: 40421:34
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk_free_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/21:34
sixwheeledbeastmarcdeop: you will be rejected on a web browser21:34
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marcdeopthat's from "apt-get update"21:35
marcdeopI installed through dpkg -i21:35
DocScrutinizer05downloads.maemo.nokia.com :-S21:35
marcdeopand now I can install syncevolution21:35
DocScrutinizer05they're going to scrap the maemo repos, eh?21:35
marcdeopstill... how on earth could I enable the proper repo?21:35
marcdeopwell... nokia is not Microsoft, isn't it?21:36
marcdeops/not/now21:36
sixwheeledbeastI can download from the Nokia SSU repo fine here.21:36
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk_free_armel/libpcre3/6.7-1osso1+r1/21:36
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sixwheeledbeastEven with expiredkeys it just asks you are you sure again21:37
DocScrutinizer05:nod:21:37
sixwheeledbeastif you have added the correct repo and distribution sections in HAM, it should have worked fine with "apt-get install syncevo*"21:39
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sixwheeledbeastdistribution is "./" FWIW21:39
marcdeopsixwheeledbeast: that I did not have21:40
* sixwheeledbeast wonders why the Nokia SSU and Nokia Apps was missing in the first place...21:41
sixwheeledbeastI can't delete them from HAM on my device.21:42
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DocScrutinizer05WOW, that's what I call a flat battery: 3 times dim red flashing, then it went into steady amber emergency charge21:42
DocScrutinizer05before it booted to charging mode after 20s21:43
DocScrutinizer05the 3 dim short flashes though are the interesting bit21:43
DocScrutinizer05bq24150 battery-present test failed21:43
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DocScrutinizer05probably the gracious donor should have removed battery before sending the device ;-)21:44
DocScrutinizer05tbh I'm amazed it charges at all, now21:45
* DocScrutinizer05 marks the battery with a huge "?"21:45
sixwheeledbeast~flatbatrecover21:47
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover21:47
sixwheeledbeast?21:47
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DocScrutinizer05yep21:54
DocScrutinizer05I've never seen flatbat steady amber last longer than max 60s21:55
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brolin_empeyfreemangordon: Pali: Have you seen https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=7070&group_id=1528&atid=5523 and https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=7071&group_id=1528&atid=5523 ?22:05
Palino22:06
Paliwill look at it22:06
brolin_empeyPali: Seriously?  I submitted both of them almost 1 month ago. :/22:07
PaliI did not get any email notification22:07
Palifreemangordon: garage email notifications not working22:08
Paliand I cannot find download button for file dm9601_backport_all_product_entries_added_to_mainline_kernel_as_of_2013-08-15.patch22:08
brolin_empeyPali: OK.  Please include my 2 patches in the next kernel-power release.22:11
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PaliI cannot download them22:11
Paligarage is broken22:12
PaliI cannot download patches22:12
freemangordon:(22:12
Palidownload buttons missing22:12
brolin_empeyPali: Are you logged into https://garage.maemo.org/ ?22:12
Paliyes22:12
PaliI can close bug22:12
Paliand change subject22:13
Paliand other options22:13
Palibut not download that file22:13
freemangordon"No Files Currently Attached"22:14
freemangordon"File Added983: dm9601_backport_all_product_entries_added_to_mainline_kernel_as_of_2013-08-15.patch"22:14
freemangordonbrolin_empey: send those via e-mail, we might not be able to fix garage soon22:17
marcdeopby the way sixwheeledbeast and DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/G6Pe1UEk22:18
sixwheeledbeastyep that looks good now. obviously normal warnings on extras-devel content.22:19
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marcdeopthat's alright ;-)22:22
marcdeopI need it to install syncevolution22:22
marcdeopotherwise can't sync my webdav/caldav22:22
marcdeopit's failing anyway :(22:22
marcdeopsixwheeledbeast: it was obviously a mistake on my side ;-)22:23
sixwheeledbeast~pkg22:24
infoboti heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/22:24
sixwheeledbeast:nod: seems another packages stuck in devel22:25
wndNot intending to hijack the conversation, but what's the deal with gtalk/telepathy stopping to work every now and then?  I can't remember what I had to do the last time to fix it or if it just started to work on its own.  All I do remember is that it didn't work for at least for a couple of weeks.22:27
DocScrutinizer05it starts with "g" - not my business ;-D22:28
DocScrutinizer05gmail, gtalk, gconf22:29
brolin_empeyfreemangordon: Pali:  Please see the comment I posted on both of the issues.22:42
Paliok22:46
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Palibrolin_empey: patches looks ok, only adding new usb ids, this could be safe23:00
PaliI will test if kernel working and then push changes to kernel-power garage git23:00
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brolin_empeyPali: OK, thank you.23:04
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DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: thank you for adding those ethernet peripherals to the list of supported USB devices23:28
DocScrutinizer05though I think somebody close to Linus has to put on his hat, stomp his rod, and announce that *all* kernel usb driver modules need to support  ID= parameter23:31
PaliDocScrutinizer05: On n900 I'm using usb ethernet adapter mcs7830.ko with 802.1X authentification via wpa_supplicant :D23:32
DocScrutinizer05I had same friggin problem et least 5 times so far, with all sorts of USB devices23:32
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PaliDocScrutinizer05: how you want to identify usb device if not via usb ID?23:32
DocScrutinizer05always going to binary-patch the *.ko sucks donkeyballs23:32
DocScrutinizer05Pali: eh?23:33
Paliyou need ID param23:33
DocScrutinizer05of course via USB ID23:33
Paliotherwise you do not want which driver to use23:33
DocScrutinizer05you completely missed my point, I think23:33
Paliso?23:33
DocScrutinizer05modprobe acme23:33
DocScrutinizer05kernel acme: USB ID aaaa:bbbb not found23:34
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DocScrutinizer05modprobe acme ID=aaaf:bbbb23:34
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DocScrutinizer05kernel acme: detecte3d acme controller at bus 1:223:34
Palihm...23:35
DocScrutinizer05so far I always had to binary-patch aaaa to aaaf in acme.ko23:35
Palithis is not enough, because drivers has some "data" for usb ids23:35
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey's patches are all the same issue23:35
Palias part of platform_driver structure23:36
DocScrutinizer05Pali: I don't see that23:36
Palibut right, for similar patch there should be easy way...23:36
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DocScrutinizer05I patched acme.ko from 0xaaaa to 0xaaaf and it worked23:36
Palidata are needed only for some drivers and sometimes "data" structure is same for set of devices23:37
DocScrutinizer05that's my point23:37
Palithere should be way to force kernel to register usb device (with data) to usb driver via sysfs23:38
Palii2c bus has this support23:38
Palivia sysfs23:38
DocScrutinizer05when same chip using different USB manuf:product ID, then why the heck can't I tell driver about that change when I already know it23:38
ShadowJKStuff likr davicom drivers have lists of hundreds of usb IDs anyways. What usually happens is random manufacturer decides to make a davicom device, buys the chips, put them on a board, and add a random ID so that user is forced to use the driver they supply, instead of using a competitor's driver.23:38
PaliDocScrutinizer05: really it is not possible to do via sysfs?23:39
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: exactly23:39
ShadowJK(then when people discover that manufacturer's device is broken, the IDs are changed yet again so people think they fixed it)23:39
PaliI know that it is possible to force some i2c device to connect to some i2c driver23:39
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: You are welcome.23:40
PaliI used that to connect i2c temperature sensor found on nvidia graphics card when proprietary nvidia driver did not registered sensor itself23:41
DocScrutinizer05USB drivers basically do a lsusb and search for the manuf:product tuple23:41
Paliand it worked without problem23:41
Paliuntil I turned off X server23:41
Palinvidia has fucking drivers: for kernel i2c access you must start X server23:42
DocScrutinizer05if the manuf:prod doesn't match what the fsckng driver has hardcoded in ints guts, it refuses to servie that device23:42
Palithis is the most stupid thing which I have ever seen.23:43
DocScrutinizer05check brolin_empey's patches (I didn't since I think I know almost to the char what they provide)23:43
DocScrutinizer05what I demand is a way to "patch" that list of known manuf:prod at kernel module load time23:44
DocScrutinizer05via kernel cmdline parameter23:44
DocScrutinizer05s/kernel/module/23:44
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: via module cmdline parameter23:44
DocScrutinizer05modprobe acme ID=aaaf:bbbb23:45
Paliyou can try to explain this to usb subsystem maintainer (Greg K-H)23:45
DocScrutinizer05eeew23:45
DocScrutinizer05though K-H seems to be a cute guy23:45
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PaliI bet that he reject it :D23:45
DocScrutinizer05I bet I have some days real fun then23:46
PaliI remember how he closed all usb bugs in bugzilla23:46
DocScrutinizer05I'll publish an auto-binpatcher for kernel module ID lists23:46
Palireason: rather report bugs to ML, bugzilla is not how I want to read bugs...23:46
DocScrutinizer05integrated into modprobe X-P23:46
Pali:D23:47
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DocScrutinizer05or rather, a wrapper kernel module23:47
PaliDocScrutinizer05: you can use ksplice :-) and patch ids in live kernel too23:48
DocScrutinizer05that takes the fsckng usb kernel module and the ID to patch in, as parameters23:48
DocScrutinizer05does ksplice work for all platforms now? FOSS?23:48
DocScrutinizer05last I checked I seem to recall it was some connercial crap that wasn't working at least on ARM23:49
PaliI think ksplice working only for x8623:49
DocScrutinizer05exactly23:49
Palibut it is open source23:49
DocScrutinizer05mhm23:49
Palimaybe new versions are closed...23:49
DocScrutinizer05whatever, it's useless23:49
Palibut old version worked23:49
DocScrutinizer05no x86 in my phone, EVAAARRRR23:50
Paliand was fully open source23:50
kerioDocScrutinizer05: just emulate x86, jeez23:50
DocScrutinizer05LOL23:50
Pali:D:D23:50
DocScrutinizer05vmware?23:50
Paliqemu23:50
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keriokvm, surely23:50
keriowait, does that do translation?23:51
DocScrutinizer05XEN23:51
Palikvm is only for 64bit arm23:51
keriok23:51
keriothen qemu, i guess23:51
dos1vmware working on system running on qemu running on system running on xen23:51
kerionah, vmware is closed23:51
dos1to take advantage of each of those platforms23:51
DocScrutinizer05I'm sure I seen vmware for N81023:51
DocScrutinizer05but they never shipped it23:51
keriowas it virtualbox maybe?23:51
DocScrutinizer05errr N800?23:52
keriooh23:52
Palivmware is unconfigurable crap with eats all of ram23:52
Paliit was qemu image :-)23:52
PaliI have it somewhere...23:52
Palithere are both n800 and n81023:52
* DocScrutinizer05 summons his bookmark magic23:52
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Paligoogle for Marcin Juszkiewicz Nokia N800 emulation23:53
Paliand Nokia N8x0 emulation part II23:53
Paliand Emulating a Nokia N800 with QEMU23:53
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DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ23:54
Paliand you need mtd generator from: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/scripts/poky-nokia800-flashutil?h=elroy23:54
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DocScrutinizer05wonder why the heck VMWare never came up with it23:57
keriobecause it was probably a piece of shit23:57
Palibecause it was *vmware*!23:58
keriovirtualbox has oracle logos all over23:58
keriowhich makes me really uncomfortable in using it23:58
* DocScrutinizer05 burrps and wonders if there's a real live out there, at this domain >2m away from this PC23:58

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