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| euphoria86 | Hi, Can someone help me with my n900, I'm trying to use cd /home/user/MyDocs/documents but the terminal is giving me the error "cant cd to /home/user/MyDocs/documents | 03:10 |
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| nox- | isnt that /home/user/MyDocs/.documents or somesuch? | 03:11 |
| euphoria86 | I tried that too, Same error message came back | 03:12 |
| nox- | hm mine does have ~/MyDocs/.documents at least | 03:13 |
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| LjL-Alps | i wish OS2008 had a sleeker version of MyPaint for it | 03:22 |
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| psycho_oreos | euphoria86, either you or someone else have done something to it. Its known as /home/user/MyDocs/.documents (Yes there is a huge difference if there was a character missing, there's a thing known as tab completion which prevents the need to type out the full and exact name of path, etc). | 05:03 |
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| psycho_oreos | There could be three reasons for why that is happening, user/program intervention (which was pointed out above), filesystem corruption, and/or filesystem not mounted. | 05:17 |
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| psycho_oreos | Hmm very interesting, running on CSSU-Thumb (just installed recently) been on CSSU-Testing for awhile now. I'm using Pali's PAv5, whenever I hear my N900 rings I　can hear both the default nokia ringtone along with my own defined ringtone for N900 to use (though with some delays for user defined ringtone). | 12:51 |
| * psycho_oreos wonders if it would be a good idea to try PA CSSU v1 again. | 12:51 | |
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| psycho_oreos | Ooh nice, looks like they've narrowed down the issue, guess that will be only set that I'll need to try. | 13:57 |
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| japa-fi | I just LOOOOOOVE my N900!. Found out that my thinkpad 430 does not have traditiona microphone input (3.5mm jack). What can I do? I use my N900 as microphone + gstreamer to strea the sound, VLC on my laptop to receive the stream muxing it to my screencast. | 16:16 |
| Sc0rpius | but that should sound terrible | 16:16 |
| Sc0rpius | I mean the quality of the audio | 16:16 |
| Sc0rpius | what kind of audio input that laptop has then? now I'm curious | 16:16 |
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| japa-fi | Sc0rpius, I think options are either USB mic or internal mic (which had awful sound quality) | 16:17 |
| japa-fi | I tested the sound via n900, it was very clear IMO | 16:17 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah I have a USB Headset that I had to use for "emergency mic" in some cases | 16:17 |
| japa-fi | oh, streaming was over wlan | 16:18 |
| wnd | it baffles me that I haven't asked this before, but does your n900 ever simply fail to connect to any wlan/wifi until you toggle offline/airplane mode on and back off? | 16:20 |
| Sc0rpius | it's funny that you ask | 16:20 |
| Sc0rpius | sometimes when I try to connect to a WiFi it doesn't find any WLAN available even if they are available | 16:21 |
| Sc0rpius | but if I have some WLAN already saved I can always connect to that | 16:21 |
| Sc0rpius | but I can't find new ones... until I reboot | 16:21 |
| Sc0rpius | now you just give me a better workaround hehehe | 16:21 |
| wnd | it happens to me maybe once a month and when it does, airplane mode alawys helps. there's nothing in the kernel log that catches my eye. | 16:22 |
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| fizzie | Many Thinkpads have a combined headphone/mic connector (including the T430 according to Lenovo spec page: "(1) 3.5mm Combo Jack Headphone/MIC"), in which case you can just get a (suitable) TRRS-to-2xTRS adapter cable and plug a regular microphone in. | 16:26 |
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| japa-fi | fizzie, darn, you spoiled all the fun :) | 16:37 |
| fizzie | On the other hand, then you'd have the N900 free for even more "creative" gstreamer experiments. (I've been using mine for experiments in time-lapse photography; it can jpegenc ! tcpserversink 1080p frames at a comfortable 2 fps, or 720p at 5 fps, over a very spotty wlan here at the office.) | 16:40 |
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| fizzie | (Sadly there's nothing in particular to photograph here, except for a mostly empty road.) | 16:41 |
| japa-fi | You use the phone as wireless "webcam" for the laptop? | 16:41 |
| fizzie | Well, for a desktop in this case, but yes. | 16:41 |
| japa-fi | Cool! | 16:42 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: ping | 20:20 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, pong? | 20:30 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: 'lo | 20:31 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Wondered if you'd looked at this week's issue - but doesn't look like you have | 20:31 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: (Not a problem, I'll have a look at lunch) | 20:31 |
| * Jaffa has just copied create-issue.php. Step 1: tick :-) | 20:32 | |
| GeneralAntilles | I haven't. Getting ready to list the house this week, so my spare time is near zero. | 20:32 |
| Jaffa | Fairy nuff | 20:33 |
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| DrCode | I have install ssh server on easydebian | 20:40 |
| DrCode | can I access to easydebian from maemo ssh? | 20:40 |
| DrCode | I did change ports to 2222 | 20:40 |
| DrCode | but couldn't connect | 20:40 |
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| cehteh | DrCode: are you sure its up and running? | 21:12 |
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| DrCode | cehteh, yes | 21:27 |
| DrCode | I also can't ssh inside ssh root | 21:27 |
| DrCode | when I do ps -ax|grep ssh | 21:27 |
| DrCode | when I do ps -ax|grep sshd mybe I see maemo and not chroot? | 21:27 |
| cehteh | netstat -tnlp gives? | 21:27 |
| Wizzup | So I'm travelling to paris and would like to have a map application that can use a cached map | 21:27 |
| Wizzup | Any suggestions? :) | 21:27 |
| cehteh | Wizzup: monav | 21:28 |
| Wizzup | ty! | 21:29 |
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| DrCode | I am charging my phone now | 21:32 |
| DrCode | dose chroot share same task with maemo? | 21:32 |
| DrCode | or its diffrent tasks | 21:32 |
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| DrCode | I mean when I use ps -ax, I will see mameo tasks? | 21:33 |
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| SpeedEvil | you see all processes - chroot doesn't isolate processes like that | 21:38 |
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| Sicelo | Wizzup: stock Maps too ;) | 21:40 |
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| sixwheeledbeast1 | Wizzup: modRana with monav, d/l the tiles before you go? | 21:56 |
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| Wizzup | Sicelo: really? I didn't know stock maps could do that | 22:02 |
| Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: ok | 22:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | stock maps will download the maps if you view the area beforehand. | 22:05 |
| Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: through reboots? | 22:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :shrug: I would think so, isn't that what ~/.nokia-maps is for? | 22:09 |
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| Wizzup | I have no clue, I thought it would just redownload it | 22:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Wizzup: seems not I remeber many thread re downloading nokia maps. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38872 | 22:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | However search feature needs data | 22:14 |
| Sicelo | yes. stock keeps maps 'forever' | 22:15 |
| Wizzup | okay, going to reboot phone first -- keeps giving errors in the gfx driver | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | :/ | 22:17 |
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| qwerty123 | freemangordon: there?? | 22:18 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: there? | 22:19 |
| qwerty123 | SpeedEvil: ?? | 22:19 |
| SpeedEvil | ? | 22:19 |
| qwerty123 | help please. | 22:19 |
| psycho_oreos | ? | 22:19 |
| qwerty123 | camera is not showing anything. basically just a blank screen. kpv52 latest thumb | 22:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | help with? | 22:20 |
| psycho_oreos | fcam driver issue perhaps? | 22:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | probably | 22:21 |
| qwerty123 | how to uninstall them?? | 22:21 |
| qwerty123 | got it in fapman. trying. | 22:22 |
| qwerty123 | and yes, problem with fennec 17 too. its not opening. just a waiting circle on top and then nothing. | 22:22 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: | 22:23 |
| qwerty123 | ^^ | 22:23 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^ | 22:23 |
| SpeedEvil | reflash stock - does problem reccur? | 22:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | have you installed fcam? | 22:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~fam | 22:24 |
| infobot | i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. | 22:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | mmm I forgot that got changed :/ | 22:25 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: yes | 22:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well I "think" you need fcam drivers from devel. | 22:25 |
| qwerty123 | SpeedEvil: i have some of the things installed from thumb repo, so cant i try cssu kernel than stock?? it used to work on v51r1. | 22:25 |
| psycho_oreos | Removing fcam-drivers will remove fcam, blessn900 and/or abettercamera. They all seem to more or less depend on fcam-drivers. | 22:26 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: mayb the first person to suffer while trying to go al safe with extras :P | 22:26 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: trying upgrading and then will remove. | 22:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | fcam drivers is a known issue if it is this. | 22:27 |
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| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: never had ne problem with them before. | 22:27 |
| psycho_oreos | fennec is also broken (at least the latest one). I don't have it working on my end anymore. | 22:27 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: so, fennec 7 works? not the thumb one?? | 22:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sometimes a "apt-get install --reinstall fcam-drivers" is known to fix too I believe. | 22:29 |
| psycho_oreos | I wouldn't say installing CSSU-Thumb and/or having kp52 would cause camera-ui to show nothing on the screen. I have more or less the same setup (except with the latest fcam-drivers). No issues for me. | 22:29 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: yep.. got solved.devel fcam were required. | 22:29 |
| qwerty123 | just upgraded them. | 22:29 |
| psycho_oreos | I do believe fennec was last up to v21. fennec 7 is really old. | 22:29 |
| qwerty123 | i think thats what it is in extras. 17 was in thumb. | 22:30 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: ^^ | 22:30 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: if devel drivers are working then why are not they shifted to extras?? | 22:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I thought so I suppose this should be pushed to extras to stop this happening | 22:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg | 22:31 |
| infobot | i heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 22:31 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: seconds late but same thought :P | 22:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | changelog: 1.0.7-2 * Bump to version number to recompile for latest kernel-power version | 22:32 |
| Wizzup | to confirm, extras-devel fcam drivers will fix prolbmes of cam not working at all | 22:32 |
| Wizzup | I ran into this issue two weeks ago | 22:32 |
| Wizzup | I thought it was going to be pushed to testing already back then | 22:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | This needs the package maintainer to promote to testing and then vote, let me double check... | 22:32 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: btw, whats the procedure of installing previous versions of kernel-power. ( just for info) | 22:34 |
| qwerty123 | ? | 22:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | no recommended. | 22:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/no/not/ | 22:37 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: not recommended. | 22:37 |
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| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: still, if someone is adamant to, then ?? :P ( imean in case i just wanted to revert back to kpv51r1, then) | 22:41 |
| psycho_oreos | Oops, my bad. Latest fennec for maemo is 17 not 21. | 22:43 |
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| psycho_oreos | You will probably have to do it all by hand and hope that it will work. | 22:45 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: so does it work?? | 22:45 |
| psycho_oreos | I'm installing it right now. | 22:46 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: i also got problems wih helium browser crashing out of the blue and opera12 and vkb vanishing after installing ukbd.. | 22:46 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: any help with these? | 22:47 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't have helium browser, I can't quite remember if I had ukbd installed or not. | 22:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | opera 12 IMO is still not stable. | 22:48 |
| psycho_oreos | opera 12.1beta1-16~fremantle0 is what I'm on. | 22:49 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: i still use 11. 12 crashes. | 22:49 |
| qwerty123 | anyone having a stable helium browser??? | 22:50 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Yep I also use 11.5 due to crashes. | 22:55 |
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| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, fennec 12.0 (thumb optimised) is working for me albeit extremely slow. | 22:57 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah i dont usually use fennec but fennec 17 had this thumb compiation that got my attention. | 22:59 |
| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, it has always been slow - fennec for maemo. I think if anything, the latest version is far slower than its earliest version. | 23:00 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: thumb obviously had raised some hope for it.. | 23:01 |
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| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, some != guaranteed | 23:02 |
| psycho_oreos | It was probably a little experiment to see if it did help speed up the process and/or not make it use as much memory. Inevitably its still slow and sluggish. | 23:03 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah. anyways whats the lightest im for maemo?? | 23:03 |
| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, probably conversations. | 23:03 |
| qwerty123 | that can be kept open for whole day long.. rtcom-messaging actually takes lot of cpu when in use. | 23:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | fennec version 8.0.1 uses a faster JIT engine anything later is pointless for maemo I believe. | 23:04 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: pidgin seemed more reasonable to me. | 23:04 |
| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, except pidgin is not well integrated compared to conversations | 23:05 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: read that in TMO. but thats too slow for much of practical workigng. | 23:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | conversations plugin for IRC, is light but has little features | 23:05 |
| qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah that s a drawback, but i am still searching for something yet lower cpu eater. | 23:06 |
| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, you won't easily. | 23:06 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: everytime conversations gain any focus, the cpu shoots! | 23:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | xchat, irssi? | 23:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | terminal based. | 23:07 |
| qwerty123 | yeah will do. | 23:07 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^ | 23:07 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: im i asked, not really only fo rirc. but i will mostly be doing irc only.. so thanks :) | 23:09 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: installing xchat. | 23:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well I'd use pidgin for multiple IM's | 23:10 |
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| psycho_oreos | qwerty123, there is finch which is based off pidgin but is command-line only based. Too bad its not available for maemo (which means you'll need to compile it yourself). | 23:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | qwerty123: what other IM protocols do you use, XMPP is supported in conversations. | 23:18 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: usually fb. | 23:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | supported in conversations have a look | 23:19 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: fb is xmpp based. | 23:19 |
| qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: i have that there. :) thanks for your answer. | 23:19 |
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| qwerty123 | set up irrssi? | 23:36 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | http://www.irssi.org/documentation | 23:42 |
| Wizzup | heh... | 23:44 |
| Sicelo | you can even get away with no particular setup :P | 23:44 |
| Wizzup | suddenly a gtk+ scroll bar appeared in my n900 conversations | 23:44 |
| Wizzup | and trying to scroll will just select text | 23:44 |
| kerio | Wizzup: same for me | 23:47 |
| kerio | i have no idea whatsoever of how to diagnose it | 23:47 |
| kerio | and it's a gecko scrollbar, not a gtk+ scrollbar | 23:47 |
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| Wizzup | kerio: any idea when that happened? | 23:48 |
| kerio | nope | 23:48 |
| Wizzup | It's new for me | 23:48 |
| kerio | what have you done? | 23:48 |
| Wizzup | as in -- probably as of today | 23:49 |
| Wizzup | I installed modrana and monav | 23:49 |
| kerio | mh | 23:49 |
| kerio | just that? | 23:49 |
| Wizzup | modrana had lots of dependencies | 23:49 |
| Wizzup | well, lots of dependencies as well | 23:49 |
| kerio | eeh, modrana only has python-* stuff | 23:50 |
| kerio | and espeak, and qt-components-10 | 23:50 |
| kerio | neither feels related to Conversations | 23:50 |
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| kerio | gaah it's such a fucking mess all over the place | 23:53 |
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