IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2013-07-10

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DocScrutinizer05we're close to criticality on meanwhile the bugs in autobuilder create new bugs on their own00:52
DocScrutinizer05like logfiles overflow, for example00:52
DocScrutinizer05jobs aborting since the have to handle zillions of bogus objects created by jobs00:52
DocScrutinizer05packages not getting cleaned out since there are too many packages to clean out, etc pp00:53
sixwheeledbeastI am working on stopping that TM00:53
infobotsixwheeledbeast meant: I am working on stopping that ATM00:53
sixwheeledbeastvery slowly00:55
DocScrutinizer05the problem is: you might stop it if you're superman, but you hardly can revert damage done00:56
DocScrutinizer05it's a db that has no means to forget anything ever00:56
sixwheeledbeastI know I am losing slowly but every little helps00:57
DocScrutinizer05I guess soon repligard table will hit the absolute limit of objects it can handle00:58
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 21:45:55 2013] [error] [client 88.217.6.xx] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 367001600 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 32 bytes) in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/services/dbclassloader.php on line 97100:59
DocScrutinizer05is no joke00:59
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DocScrutinizer05when such stuff gets triggered for every 2nd HTTP query, then we're close to doom01:00
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer sixwheeledbeast It seems to have gotten somewhere, my questions :)
DocScrutinizer05I'm officially announcing that we soon will have to shut down maemo.org01:03
sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: do we know why packages being saved by asgurd over and over?01:03
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer05 Shut down as in temporarely?01:05
DocScrutinizer05no, terminately01:05
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DocScrutinizer05when invocation of* is causing >>[Tue Jul 09 21:45:55 2013] [error] [client 88.217.6.xx] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 367001600 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 32 bytes) in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/services/dbclassloader.php on line 971<<01:06
DocScrutinizer05then there's no other option than shutdown*01:06
HtheBanyone here from the US?01:07
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anthonie_with regard to the log files, how large are they atm, and why don't you just copy them over to a local machine and remove the remote version so a new one will get spawned?01:09
DocScrutinizer05it also freezes one apache process it seems01:09
anthonie_not surprised @ apache...01:09
DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: logfiles are one of our simplest problem, their content is our headache01:10
anthonie_of course it is01:10
DocScrutinizer05  watch bogus sort order!01:10
sixwheeledbeastyep, the user "midgurd admin" is saving all the packages in the asgurd logs NFC why. On a separate note the db is getting corruption so I am finding some issue packages impossible to purge.01:11
sixwheeledbeast dead01:12
sixwheeledbeast dead01:12
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: thanks! that was no great idea to paste that URL here01:12
DocScrutinizer05I intentionally did NOT spell it out01:12
sixwheeledbeasteh, ok01:13
anthonie_so what's it going to be? a rescue operation, based on some kind of plan or is it going to die?01:14
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:14:10 2013] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:21638): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php on line 86601:14
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:14:10 2013] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:21638): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php on line 86601:14
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:14:10 2013] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:21638): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php on line 86601:14
sixwheeledbeastthey may reappear it has happened01:14
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DocScrutinizer05* 100001:14
DocScrutinizer05in 2 seconds01:15
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anthonie_The system basically shouldn't be running, under the condition it is in now. If we continue to use the package system it will only continue to clutter the whole of Midgard.01:15
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:15:24 2013] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:32461): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php on line 211, referer:
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:15:24 2013] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:32461): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php on line 211, referer:
anthonie_so we're out of space to do any writes?01:16
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DocScrutinizer05watch the shit got BOOOM01:17
anthonie_would be my first guess, looking at the error message01:17
anthonie_nah, rather not watch it...01:17
DocScrutinizer05right, I'm out01:17
DocScrutinizer05I officially declare I give up. I think we're doomed01:18
anthonie_why? because of a software fuckup?01:18
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DocScrutinizer05because of me not being able to sustain this level of "maintenance" any more01:19
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DocScrutinizer05particularly since frequency of fatal problems increases exponetially01:20
anthonie_than we need a call for arms, not?01:20
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DocScrutinizer05I officially declare I give up. I think we're doomed01:20
anthonie_time for some good ol' deathmetal than...01:21
* chainsawbike thinks because a lot of stuff needs to be fixed before maintenance is manageable with current staffing01:21
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anthonie_l o t s01:21
anthonie_so, doc, why don't you just shut down the package management?01:22
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anthonie_put it back on when it's fixed01:23
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anthonie_no one can expect from you to "manage" something that is broken...01:23
anthonie_fix it first, then manage it01:24
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* sixwheeledbeast agrees with chainsawbike01:27
DocScrutinizer05[Tue Jul 09 22:27:12 2013] [error] [client 89.243.2] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 367001600 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 6430721 bytes) in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/_styleloader.php(652) : eval()'d code on line 273, referer:
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DocScrutinizer05I'm going to shut down www01:40
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer05 Please do, that is the only sensible thing to do02:01
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HtheBis anybody from the US here?05:16
GeneralAntillesA few.05:23
GeneralAntillesWhat's up?05:23
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HtheBho GeneralAntilles05:34
HtheBhi *05:34
HtheBthere is auction on ebay which i really like to win. but the seller is shipping the item for a fortune outside the US. but it's free shipping to the US. so I want someone to win from the us, to avoid the very high shipping costs, because the default shipping costs is actually $2 or $3 :/05:36
HtheBofcourse i'll pay the shipping (+ a bit extra for the trouble)05:36
HtheBanybody else?05:39
robbiethe1stHtheB, what is it?05:45
HtheBa game cartridge05:46
robbiethe1sthuh, how much?05:46
HtheBthe auction is at 19,99 at the moment (only 1bid)05:47
HtheBwill end tomorrow05:47
HtheBhang on let me paste the link05:47
robbiethe1stAnd where are you located?05:47
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HtheBthe netherlands05:48
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HtheB(its not the system, but the game itself, as the auction desribes)05:48
robbiethe1stHtheB, can you give me your address(PM me)? Just want to take a look at what USPS wants to ship05:50
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HtheBrobbiethe1st thnx!05:59
HtheBtime to sleep now... (5:00 !!)05:59
HtheBnight all06:00
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japa-fiDid my battery calibration last night. How to get constant drain on battery if keeping the backlight on is not possible? Solution: connect to wlan and wget stuff.08:28
japa-fifor i in 1 2 3 4 5 ; do wget -O /dev/null --limit-rate=50K; done08:28
japa-fiI think the rate limiter is essential, otherwise one gets too much data and the load is much higher08:29
japa-fiCSOC: 5 % RSOC: 5 %08:29
japa-fiAverage Current: 109 mA08:29
japa-fiLast Measured Discharge: 1271 mAh08:30
japa-fiNow my battery is reporting more than 1100mAh when it's fully loaded08:31
ecc2gLast Measured Discharge: 1034 mAh08:54
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japa-fiI have genuine Nokia battery, purchased less than year ago.09:16
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japa-fiThe previous battery was really bad. Putting some load from system and the battery which appeared to be quite full went empty in no time.09:17
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trxwhats up with the
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trxsemms like there are no styles10:46
trxand graphics are missing10:47
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Lava_CroftPali: what does your battery applet read for its info11:29
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PaliLava_Croft: battery applet read data from BME or BME replacement or from battery kernel drivers (via HAL)11:40
Palipriority: bme replacement; bme; kernel drivers (via HAL)11:40
Paliwhen you stop bme it automatically try to use any other active input source11:41
Paliand when nothing is possible it will show something line no data or 0%11:41
Lava_CroftPali: I ask because I ran Doc's battery calib script and both it and bnf report a different value than the applet11:42
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Lava_Croftthis is normal?11:42
Lava_Croftseems the applet still thinks its on a 1250ish mAh battery11:42
Lava_Croftwhile it actually is a 1500ish mAh battery11:43
Paliif battery is not calibrated it calculating capacity against design capacity reported by 3rd battery pin11:43
Lava_Croftit is calibrated, ran the cycle twice with nearly same results11:44
Palialso in last version there is gconf value which configure when to use design capacity11:44
Palimake sure you have last version from cssu-devel11:44
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Paliabove was fixed in version 1.0-5 (27 Mar 2013)11:46
Palisee info in git commit:
Lava_Croftok, the one on skeiron is old then11:46
Lava_Croftyeah, am there11:48
Palisee git commit for configuring calculating percentage11:48
Lava_Croftsilly how attached you can get so that simple applet11:48
Lava_Croftthank you11:48
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Lava_Crofti wonder where im failing this:|12:04
Lava_Croftgconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery -t int 212:05
Lava_CroftPali: ^^ that is correct?12:06
Pali2 will always use design capacity reported by battery and will ignore calibrated max capacity12:07
Palibut command could be correct12:08
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Lava_Croftdo i need to reboot or something12:10
Lava_Crofttrying to see any kind of change in the reported value12:10
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Paliafter installing new version of plugin you need to reboot device12:12
Palibut changing that gconf key is instant (no reboot needed)12:12
Lava_Crofthm, i didnt see any changes when changing the value to any of the valid settings12:13
Lava_Croftjust keeps reporting 1252mAh, while it should be 1557mAh12:13
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Lava_Croftwell, i have no clue why it doesnt work12:25
Lava_CroftIll just remove the applet, since getting the wrong values is annoying :<12:25
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Lava_CroftPali: using bme replacement solved it13:55
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Lava_Croftwonder if it can charge yet13:58
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Lava_Croftit can, fantastic14:00
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PaliLava_Croft: bme replacement working fine on my n900 without problems14:02
Palibut it is still experimental14:03
Lava_Croftyeah i know, but it already has come quite a way since before14:03
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Lava_Croftthe replacement BME does report the right values14:03
Lava_Croftcouldnt get it done with the stock one14:03
Palimaybe it is time to announce bme replacement on TMO :-)14:03
infobot[bme-replacement]  See also: . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!14:04
Lava_Croftthere is a thread about it already, but a proper thread might not be bad14:04
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer05, any plans concerning www?14:09
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DocScrutinizer05not really14:19
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:01:49] <DocScrutinizer05> mashiara: this is very first line of that kind that shows up in www VM maemo_http_error.log:14:20
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:01:53] <DocScrutinizer05> [Fri Dec 28 09:31:26 2012] [error] [client] PHP Warning:  (pid:20625): Can not write property. Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php14:20
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:02:33] <DocScrutinizer05> since then it never stopped14:20
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:02:49] <DocScrutinizer05> could you give any clue what has been done that is causing this?14:20
DocScrutinizer05(FYI: it seem 2012-12-28 been date of migration#1)14:21
anthonie_not really as the install package of Midgard is incomplete. As such I can only look at the code and pray that I can find a culprit. Yesterday I also had a late night conversation with Mashiara and he/she promised to get back to me today with more info. Apparently the missing channel package can be copied from the current maemo install, but I will receive more detailed instructions today. Hence also the question, should I conti14:23
anthonie_nue trying to get Midgard to run locally or is it a waste of time and energy?14:23
DocScrutinizer05root@www1:/var/log/apache2# cat */*/*/maemo_http_error.log |grep -c "Can not write property"14:25
DocScrutinizer05not really what?14:25
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DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: I think we can't gain much by making another local install of midgrad1 run anywhere14:27
anthonie_Normally when an object turns into read only mode, it's either a configuration problem of the software, or a I/O problem hardware wise... Glancing at yesterdays logs, there seems to be enough diskspace, so I say it's either a CPU lockup (which would be consistent with the overload) or the Midgard code. Something makes me think it's the latter but it's too early to say anything before it actually runs.14:27
DocScrutinizer05if you like to do it I won't stop you nevertheless14:28
DocScrutinizer05cpu lockup is not possible a reason14:29
DocScrutinizer05>>Object in read only mode in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/dbaobject.php<<14:29
anthonie_It's not a atter of "liking it", i am afraid, but it's a question of necessity.14:29
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DocScrutinizer05then let me put it this way: there is no obvious necessity to have another local midgard1 instance running14:30
DocScrutinizer05particularly since you hardly can reproduce the errors we encounter on maemo.org14:31
anthonie_so the or better, my question is, what's the plan? Is it usefull putting more hours into Midgard1 (I am willing to do that, I just need to be sure we want to continue down this road) or do we plan on a forced upgrade and get it over with? In the end, Midgard1 needs to be upgraded soon enough anyway.14:32
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DocScrutinizer05so unless you need such installation for your personal educational puposes, I don't know why and how we could benefit from it14:32
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anthonie_No, hopefully the errors wouldn't be reproduced, but the idea was to get a hint of what's going on with Midgard from the perspective of a working install, rather than jumping into a pool full of trouble with a system I never used before.14:33
DocScrutinizer05there is no sesnible migration path from midgard1 incl all the custom maemo addons, to any other CMS incl midgard214:33
anthonie_I was already afraid and expecting to hear that...14:33
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DocScrutinizer05if there were, probably nemein (inventors of midgard) whould have done it on maemo (where nemein been the primary/sole maintainer) quite a long time ago14:34
anthonie_even more reason to gather and discuss what needs to be done, if anything...14:34
DocScrutinizer05look, all that stuff worked at a certain point (or span) in time, some 12..24 months ago14:35
DocScrutinizer05we are still trying to recover from damage done during (and immediately prior to) migration#114:36
anthonie_but you're juggling god knows how many balls here...14:37
DocScrutinizer05there's still an undelivered package in contract items between Nemein and Nokia (and community) that's titled "knowledge transfer"14:37
DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: (balls) yes. So what?14:38
DocScrutinizer05what's the alternative?14:38
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anthonie_it's going to be very hard to keep sane with all this mess... There is no real alternative besides either going in and try and fix error for error, or trying to get a clean and working system up and running again and fill it with content from there.14:39
DocScrutinizer05there are exactly 3 guys who have a clue about infra nad how stuff is supposed to work: x-fade/Niels  mashiara/Rambo/Eero  Ferenc14:40
anthonie_the situation right now is: A clean install can not be made without all kinds of tricks and trouble14:40
DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: the second suggestion is tempting but infeasible14:40
anthonie_of those, only Mashiara is avaible on Midgard channel14:41
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DocScrutinizer05it would take man-years of work14:41
anthonie_I know, it is tempting, but I did not know two days ago it was THIS urgent...14:41
DocScrutinizer05x-fade been around here, but it was his phantom only14:42
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Lava_Croftreplacement bme -> first time in nearly 4 years that i see "Fully Charged"14:42
DocScrutinizer05again, it's NOT primarily midgard that gives us headache, it's the custom addons14:42
anthonie_which ones are that?14:43
DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: if you're willing to learn about how midgard *basically* works, you'd be the ideal candidate for the aforementioned knowledge-transfer14:44
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anthonie_the transfer hasn't taken place because there is no one to "receive" it?14:44
DocScrutinizer05(which ones) basically they are known as "autobuilder", "repo-management", "karma", a lot of small others like "ask for maintainership" function and whatnot else14:45
DocScrutinizer05account syncing from garage to www to repo to drop to ....14:45
DocScrutinizer0512 dozen nasty php and python scripts14:46
DocScrutinizer05...that do "promote package", "import package to repo", etc pp14:46
DocScrutinizer05midgard itself is only "the GUI"14:47
DocScrutinizer05we even have another system complementary to midgard, on garage14:48
DocScrutinizer05I forgot the name14:48
anthonie_Huh? up and running?14:48
DocScrutinizer05yes, sure14:48
DocScrutinizer05garage db is postgresql14:48
anthonie_you know what? I'll talk to mashiara and discuss with him to see what would be the wisest path from here14:49
DocScrutinizer05if you think that's a good move14:49
DocScrutinizer05he most likely will tell you "please discuss this with the new maintainers of maemo" - ergo in the end me :-S14:50
anthonie_the thing is, if we start troubleshooting remotely straight away, chances are we need a lot more help from him than we may be able to get.14:50
anthonie_lol, hello Doc, I would talk to you about our patient...14:50
DocScrutinizer05you seen my initial post of today? answer to your initial question?14:53
anthonie_no, on tmo?14:53
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:09:34] <anthonie_> DocScrutinizer05, any plans concerning www?14:54
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:19:35] <DocScrutinizer05> not really14:54
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:20:15] <DocScrutinizer05> [2013-07-10 13:01:49] <DocScrutinizer05> mashiara: this is very first line of that kind that shows up in www VM maemo_http_error.log:14:54
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DocScrutinizer05also please varefully re-read what I posted regarding "knowledge-transfer" in last maybe 20 lines here14:54
anthonie_will do14:55
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 13:44:10] <DocScrutinizer05> anthonie_: if you're willing to learn about how midgard *basically* works, you'd be the ideal candidate for the aforementioned knowledge-transfer14:55
DocScrutinizer05I'm supposed to coordinate said knowledge transfer sessions14:56
anthonie_I know, I did read that, bloody scary man, considering the amount of work but if it needs to be done it needs to be done14:56
DocScrutinizer05those knowledge transfer sessions are not meant to teach knowledge about basic midgard principles, or about basic operation and system design of maemo autobuilder (the latter maybe a bit more than the former). We have some wiki pages that for example summarize what jacekowski found out about how cauldron autobuilder in maemo flavour is set up and working14:58
DocScrutinizer05think of it like "you got 30 questions plus follow up clarification free to ask, mashiara will answer"14:59
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anthonie_it's basically a support contract?15:00
DocScrutinizer05no, it's knowledge transfer15:01
anthonie_fair enough15:01
anthonie_ok, so what would need to be done in order to achieve that transfer and how do we do that?15:01
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DocScrutinizer05learn about infra internals, get a guest/user account in the relevant VMs so you can inspect scripts etc, chat with others like you who also want to participate, discuss the questions you have, write them down and and them to me, then I coordinate a session with mashiara/ferenc/niels,probably on IRC in a dedicated channel15:08
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DocScrutinizer05and hand* them to me...15:09
anthonie_clear, let's do that15:09
DocScrutinizer05is a start15:11
anthonie_bookmarked as well as
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DocScrutinizer05  and further entry points15:12
DocScrutinizer05and of course google for cauldron15:13
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anthonie_all right, clear15:16
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anthonieI will be reading those and get back to you15:29
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amin007110Drathir, morning there and afternoon here :D15:51
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infobotfrom memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant.
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: nice i didnt know that O.o16:01
Gh0stylol like that one :D16:01
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win7macHappy Halloween then!16:03
Palifreemangordon: I sent new version of ARM errata 430973 workaround patches to LKML (CC to you)16:05
Drathirbtw builider fixed?16:07
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DocScrutinizer05could some unix savvy check `man ps` and `ps  -o start=anfang,user,pid  -U root --sort=start;` and tell me if for them it sorts on start time, if yes why and if not then also why?16:24
DocScrutinizer05for me it seems ps has a bug16:24
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DocScrutinizer05I get sort on PID always16:25
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DocScrutinizer05just like if --sort wasn't given at all16:25
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anthonie_sort on both PID and time16:28
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DocScrutinizer05  doesn't look to me like it's sorting on start16:33
DocScrutinizer05rather it's strctly sorting on pid only16:33
anthonie_check, double check -> nope,
DocScrutinizer05well, that's pretty insignificant16:40
DocScrutinizer05it's ordered on both starttime as well as pid16:40
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DocScrutinizer05yours even doesn't obey -U root though16:41
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DocScrutinizer05see "user: daemon"16:41
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DocScrutinizer05might be a glicht due to renaming/re-owning the process during ps execution time16:42
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DocScrutinizer05ps jaxkuid,-ppid,+pid - as according to man ps, works as expected here16:43
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DocScrutinizer05I wonder if that issue is related to "personality" for me as well as your result16:44
anthonie_I am having a look16:44
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DocScrutinizer05ps  -o start=anfang,user,pid  -U root --sort=-start;16:45
DocScrutinizer05*same* result16:45
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DocScrutinizer05ps  -o start=anfang,user,pid  -U root --sort=-pid; works as expected16:45
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DocScrutinizer05ps  -o etimes=anfang,user,pid  -U root --sort=-etimes; also borked16:48
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DocScrutinizer05without "=anfang" same16:49
DocScrutinizer05no matter if root or regular user16:49
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jon_y_hey is something wrong with nickserv?16:54
Drathirproppably services dont respond...16:54
Drathirbut need to confirm...16:54
Drathiryes confirmed.16:55
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keriodat freenode17:17
DocScrutinizer06FU nickserv!17:17
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DocScrutinizer05at least17:18
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win7macwhat a shitty day to be infra-admin... I pity you, Doc17:25
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DocScrutinizer05add to that the fact I'm not even infra-admin, I'm infra-admin-coordinator/manager17:38
win7macI feel with you17:38
DocScrutinizer05[2013-07-10 16:34:20] [440] DocScrutinizer05 NickServ Services are currently unavailable17:38
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DocScrutinizer05a question to the php / apache cracks: would a ini_set('max_execution_time', 0); in a .php affect the apache process even after the particular .php finished?18:58
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer05, should end after the script ends19:03
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anthonie_DocScrutinizer05, there is, however, also a seperate time_out setting for apache, normally it can be found in  httpd.conf19:04
DocScrutinizer05what would happen to a running .php script that a apache process started that gets "killed" by such apache timeout?19:05
anthonie_good question19:05
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DocScrutinizer05we got all clear signal for the "object in read-only mode" error-log, more or less19:08
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DocScrutinizer05but we still suffer form apache2 processes freezing and getting stuck one after the other, so somebody would need to kill them hard (-9!) every few hours, or www comes to a grinding halt19:09
DocScrutinizer05I'm not willing to re-enable apache on www.m.o before we solved this issue19:10
anthonie_all clear as in "it's a non-critical error message" or all clear as in "solved"?19:10
DocScrutinizer05as in "there's a good explanations why it happens, and it probably doesn't cause any havoc (except spamming logfiles)"19:11
anthonie_good enough for now19:11
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DocScrutinizer05since migration#1 we got some optimizations that include anonymous access to db, which results in objects r/o, but some midgard templates use direct modification of db-objects as in obj.timestamp=strtoint(obj.timestamp)19:13
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sixwheeledbeast anthonie_: feel free to make required "knowledge" pages in "*" I will eventually make that page link to all the pages within.19:33
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sixwheeledbeastFWIW, garage is gforge afaik19:35
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DocScrutinizer05yep, gforge19:42
DocScrutinizer05that been the name I wasn't able to recall19:43
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DocScrutinizer05~dict forge19:45
infobotDictionary 'forge' (1 of 14): \Forge\, v. i. [See {Forge}, v. t., and for sense 2, cf. {Forge} compel.] 1. To commit forgery. [1913 Webster] 2. (Naut.) To move heavily and slowly, as a ship after the sails are furled; to work one's way, as one ship in outsailing another; -- used especially in the phrase to forge ahead. --Totten. [1913 Webster] And off she [a ship] forged without a shock. --De Quincey. [1913 Webster].19:45
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DocScrutinizer05~dict forgery19:47
infobotDictionary 'forgery' (1 of 5): \For"ger*y\, n.; pl. {Forgeries}. [Cf. F. forgerie.] 1. The act of forging metal into shape. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] Useless the forgery Of brazen shield and spear.           --Milton. [1913 Webster] 2. The act of forging, fabricating, or producing falsely; esp., the crime of fraudulently making or altering a writing or signature purporting to be made by another; the false making or material alteration of or addition to ...19:47
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DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: do you think the apache2 process could freeze completely when it tries to terminate due to timeout, while it runs a php script?20:14
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anthonie_yes, I think that's pretty well possible20:16
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SAiFwhat happened??20:21
kerioSAiF: the software, it no worky20:23
SAiFI mean, I cant acces Can you access it?20:23
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DocScrutinizer05anthonie_: yes, that's what I think as well. If I had to guess I'd say apache sends a ^C to php which php ignores. Then apache waits for child php process to terminate which never happens since php ignored ^C and now is blocking on stdout or whatever to apache process20:40
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SAiFUp up up21:09
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SAiFwww. is up21:10
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SAiFThanks to you guys.. good night21:17
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DocScrutinizer05we're just testing21:21
DocScrutinizer05if my idea why apache freezes (resp the intermediate solution) doesn't pan out, it will go down again without prior notice, and I won't restart it until we have another idea how to fix this issue21:22
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sardinihello, I have a new strange bug. When I type to fast, applications close with 'internal error'22:18
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sardiniony me? Its hardware issue?22:18
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DocScrutinizer05hw error *might* be possible.22:36
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DocScrutinizer05though that wouldn't depend on fast but rather on "hard" typing22:37
DocScrutinizer05never heard sth like that before22:37
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-DocScrutinizer05- is offline23:38
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win7macintermediate solution didn't pan out?23:40
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sardinithank you DocScrutinizer0523:43
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win7macGRRR like GRRRUNT?23:50
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