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GI_Jackit really is too bad that golden delicious refuses to port their GTA04 to the n900 case00:18
GI_Jack(and with that, I guess it should have to use an n900-like battery)00:18
GI_Jackbecause I got a new n900 case sitting in my garage with a fresh layer of paint on it00:18
ApicGood Night to You all.00:33
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Drathirgpg is broke ar mcabber is broken in worst case booth :/02:00
Drathirbroken or*02:01
Drathiron chroot alarm works both of them :/02:02
Win7Macme/ says good night all, see you tomorrow o/02:03
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Luke-JrThe best thing about UDP jokes is that you don't have to care if nobody gets them.02:06
Sc0rpiusthat was funny actually though I felt a little nerd02:06
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GI_Jackgood one02:12
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Macermy bt headphones aren't pairing with my n900 :-/06:28
Macersome type of sick joke heh06:28
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ApicA wonderful splendid good holy Sunday Morning to You all!09:34
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DocScrutinizer05xxxxx but yeah09:40
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infobotgood coffee11:10
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Mr_Stupidwith milk?11:13
DocScrutinizer05YEAH! :-D11:13
Mr_StupidI have black coffee & donauwelle :D11:13
DocScrutinizer05though ESL-milk, which kinda tastes like dogXXXt11:14
* DocScrutinizer05 hates the way food industry optimizes their marhins by reducing quality of food they sell to us, all the time11:15
DocScrutinizer05mergins even11:15
DocScrutinizer05yummy, donauwelle11:15
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kerioso why are you on irc?11:28
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_rdI had to reinstall my n900 recently, now I see sometimes hangs of the web browser. I am wondering if I installed/configured something before, which went away during the reinstallation and I do not remember that I configured/installed it before13:14
jogamaybe something like flashblock or so? :)13:24
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_rdHmm....I had tweakflashver, I can reinstall that one, although I do not see how it avoids hangs.13:28
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Drathir_rd: cache of sites?13:44
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_rdwhat do you mean with cache of sites?14:20
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Drathiranyone here want to help test something?15:07
Drathirbrowser cache, sorry im not highlighted... :/15:07
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Macermy txting started doing the same thing again16:06
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Drathirmean text editor?16:33
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infoboti heard rescue-os is
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Win7MacWoody14619: ping18:34
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NeutrinoPowermy N900 is locked and I doesn't remember the PIN, what can I do?20:05
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ecc3greflash if you didn't put in a backdoor?20:06
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infobotit has been said that lockcode is
infobotfrom memory, rescue-os is
DocScrutinizer05or just full reflash20:11
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DocScrutinizer05particularly when you have no valuable data on your N900, reflash is the faster alternative20:12
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NeutrinoPowerecc3g: ssh is activated but WLAN doesn't start without unlock I think20:13
DocScrutinizer05it should, I think20:13
ecc3gmine apparently does goto wifi w/o unlock...20:14
DocScrutinizer05yep, normal20:16
DocScrutinizer05since it doesn't go offline when you lock it20:16
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DocScrutinizer05so forget about rescueOS20:16
DocScrutinizer05just johnrip your key20:16
DocScrutinizer05via ssh it's utterly painless20:17
DocScrutinizer05given you have a linux PC20:18
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ecc3gdo people leave sshd running in the background all the time? I do... (though I wonder how much battery it eats when sleeping... not that much apparently)20:18
Wizzupit will be sleeping all the time'20:19
Wizzupin select() probably20:19
ecc3gjust wonderring because there apparently are addons that turn on and off sshd...maybe it's for security over power savings...20:20
ecc3gI leave mine running - good password and t-mobile firewalls us anyway :(20:21
NeutrinoPowerno, I don't get wlan on20:24
ecc3gI guess it also depends if you have "automatically search for wlan networks"...20:25
NeutrinoPowerover USB I get on PC: usb 1-4: new high-speed USB device number 10 using ehci-pci20:25
NeutrinoPowerscsi16 : usb-storage 1-4:1.020:25
NeutrinoPowerscsi 16:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Nokia    N900              031 PQ: 0 ANSI: 220:25
NeutrinoPowersd 16:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk20:25
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NeutrinoPowerthe lock code is independent of the root-passwd right? because I set a rootpasswd with sudo passwd...20:27
ecc3gthey are different20:27
ecc3gbut if you can login to root you can extract the lock code hash, and then crack it20:27
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mkaindlanyone tried to have "MyDocs" as ext3/4 with uboot installed? it cannot access my kernel-power-image because it seems to need some files from mmc1:0, and is not able to read the ext3/4 partition? the attached stock kernel is booting21:50
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DocScrutinizer05uboot can't boot from ext3 I think, it needs vfat afaik22:08
DocScrutinizer05ask pali22:08
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DrathirDocScrutinizer05: interesting things u-boot hear that sucesfully boot from btrfs with unoficial pathes...22:14
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Macerim watching these logs waiting for my txting to break again heh22:16
* Macer kicks his n90022:16
MacerJun 30 14:17:15 Nokia-N900 pulseaudio[780]: module-alsa-sink-old.c: Buffer underrun ! frames: 192022:17
Maceri keep getting a lot of those too22:17
freemangordonMacer: ignore that22:17
MacerJun 30 14:17:44 Nokia-N900 cellular: csd[789]: ISI_SMS .091064> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:022:18
MacerJun 30 14:17:44 Nokia-N900 cellular: csd[789]: ISI_SMS .094177> set_timeout(): Timeout 3386 s event type:-122:18
MacerJun 30 14:18:33 Nokia-N900 cellular: csd[789]: ISI_SMS .043884> set_timeout(): Timeout 3337 s event type:-122:19
MacerJun 30 14:18:33 Nokia-N900 telepathy-ring[1163]: GLIB MESSAGE Modem-SMS - completed sending SMS to "+16304607758" with "d2d6e7e2-09af-4953-be77-6a768691508f"22:19
MacerJun 30 14:18:33 Nokia-N900 rtcom-call-ui[1816]: GLIB WARNING ** default - _get_events_core: could not step statement: database is locked22:19
* Macer kicks it some more22:19
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freemangordonMacer: try to recreate messages database22:19
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freemangordonMacer: I think renaming el-v1.db in /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger and restarting will do the job. But not sure, try to search the forum or wait someone here to confirm22:21
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ^^^ ?22:21
Macerok. i will in a moment22:22
Macerhow odd22:24
Macerdo i have to restart telepathy somehow?22:24
freemangordonMacer: I guess so. Maybe it is best to restart the device22:25
DocScrutinizer05buffer-underrun is nasty22:25
freemangordonMacer: again, I am not 100%sure this is the correct database22:25
DocScrutinizer05and db is locked is nasty22:25
DocScrutinizer05the rest is normal22:25
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: this (buffer...) is the result of not throwing PA logs in the bin22:26
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: nokia were sending them to /dev/null22:26
freemangordonpali changed that, so now those are logged22:27
DocScrutinizer05how insane is THAT?22:27
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: which one exactly? what nokia did or what pali did?22:27
DocScrutinizer05what pali did22:27
freemangordonhmm, why?22:28
DocScrutinizer05because you don't want to hog cpu with logging and disk IO when alsa already has buffer underuns22:28
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DocScrutinizer05and I honestly don't wnat to fill my syslog with buffer underun loglines22:29
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: syslog is not even supposed to be installed on the device ;)22:29
DocScrutinizer05so wtf did we change its config then?22:29
Maceryeah it is rather irritating22:30
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: and if it is installed, that's on purpose, so it is better to have whatever possible logged22:30
Macerwas it impossible to just fix pulseaudio so it wouldn't buffer underrun?22:30
DocScrutinizer05NO ITS NOT22:30
Macermeaning it's possible? heh22:30
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: no time to argue on that one, ask pali for that change22:30
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DocScrutinizer05I honestly wonder what all this fucking around with stuff that doesn't fix errors but insted introduces new flaws is meant to help22:31
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: toldya, ask pali, I can only guess why he did it22:32
DocScrutinizer05pali has an annoying habit to mess up stuff without discussing it before, and without considering if that's actually a useful and the right thing to do22:33
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: actually it was discussed22:33
DocScrutinizer05it's called peer review22:33
freemangordonmaybe not with you, but still22:34
DocScrutinizer05so I wonder why it not occurred to anybody else that adding workload to system to log "too much workload" is an extremely silly thing to do22:35
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: this gets logged only on the beggining of the audio playback, which happens once every few minutes at most22:36
DocScrutinizer05I don't care22:36
DocScrutinizer05Macer says he got a lot of those22:36
freemangordongood, file a bug22:36
freemangordonthere will be meeting in wednesday (iirc)22:37
MacerDocScrutinizer05: huh?22:39
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Maceryeah. my log is getting flooded with pulseaudio errors heh22:39
Macerbut like freemangordon said.. i can always just disable syslog22:40
freemangordonMacer: what I said is that one should explicitly install it from the SDK repo22:41
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freemangordonwhich should be added by hand (SDK repo)22:41
DocScrutinizer05btw alsa is *known* to spit lots of buffer underruns once it starts with it, and I think it's also known that syslog usually lives on rootfs which will make the system bootloop once you filled it with megabytes of useless alsa buffer underrun warning messages22:47
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robbiethe1stAny way to disable logging?22:47
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: syslog gets rotated, iirc limit is 5MB22:47
DocScrutinizer05sure, revert what pali did22:47
DocScrutinizer05or divert this particular logger line to /dev/null in syslog's config22:48
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: that's nonsense, syslog gets rotated only on boot22:49
DocScrutinizer05at least last I checked22:49
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: toldya, soon there will be CSSU devs meeting, either file a bug or bring that topic on the meeting22:50
DocScrutinizer05if rootfs already got filled 100%, no logrotate will even kick in22:50
Maceron the brighter side the tablet-encode script is making useful videos for my n900 :)22:50
Maceri'm about to test one out now to make sure it works... with the 32GB SD in it .. it's just a wealth of storage heh22:50
Macernot to mention the additional 32GB of internal storage22:51
* Macer looks at his e7 with no sd slot22:51
Macere7 would be absolutely awesome if it had a damn SD22:51
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: to open a ticket I had to test stuff myself. I'm not touching CSSU with a 10ft pole since ~4 months22:51
DocScrutinizer05too many hacks22:51
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: bring the topic then22:51
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: honestly, either give some hard facts or stop talking bullshit. after all you are respected community member and should think a bit before saying things on a public channel. IMO22:53
freemangordonwhat hack are you talking about?22:53
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keesjwhat happend to ?23:32
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