IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2013-06-13

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RoDidoes somebody know how to install pyrcc4 on the n900?01:22
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mad_devRoDi: Give me a sec01:27
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mad_devRoDi: it should be in python2.5-qt4-dev01:34
RoDiok thanks01:36
RoDimad_dev: it's not in it :/01:40
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mad_devRoDi: sorry about the prolonged response, I am sure not where it is or that if it is in fact available for maemo.02:20
mad_dev*not sure02:20
mad_devIf you could just tell me what you are trying to accomplish, I may assist you.02:20
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DocScrutinizer05logging is back to normal in #maemo, thanks marius gedminas who took care of it despite being in holiday02:25
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DocScrutinizer05chanlogs of last 7 days can be found at
DocScrutinizer05(alas not searchable by "normal" means)02:28
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RoDimad_dev: i'm trying to run this script to compile a ui for the new version of anki2
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RoDii'll just find something else and run it on a debian or ubuntu machine instead02:31 or i could install easy debian in fact02:32
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mad_devProbably the only way, unless someone could point you to pyrcc4 for maemo or pyuic4 for that matter02:34
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Ex-OpesaHI, the camera-ui2 stuck a lot after I capture more then 1-2 pictures. I am not able to take pictures in row. I like CSSU, is there anyway to remove camera-ui2?06:16
Ex-OpesaThank you.06:16
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Ex-OpesaI just turned off the preview, its working absolutely fine now.06:43
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oldtopmannQuestion (if anyone's around). I installed Easy Debian, and the phone self-rebooted. Now "debian lxde" instantly closes.07:28
oldtopmannWhat can I do to fix it?07:28
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oldtopmannGetting a few stale nfs errors, seems like the chroot fs is corrupt :/07:53
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MrOppositeBye bye n900 :(08:32
MrOppositeMy micro-usb port is dead08:32
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DocScrutinizer05MrOpposite: fix it, find sb to fix it, or offer the device for purchase here08:43
infobot[usbfix] - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)08:43
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DocScrutinizer05oldtopmann: yeah, sounds like that. Anyway you're lucky, stale NFS usually fixable by fsck08:55
DocScrutinizer05for the reboot during installation, check for general "reboot while copying large files ..." error, and swappolube resp generic tweaks to IO-settings08:56
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DocScrutinizer05MrOpposite: if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask09:07
MrOppositeI just disassembled my n90009:07
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DocScrutinizer05be careful with tha flex connector09:07
MrOppositeand I'm holding my USB-port in one hand09:07
MrOppositeand the motherboard in the other09:07
MrOppositenow what?09:07
DocScrutinizer05make a macro snapshot of the PCB where USB been, post URL here09:08
MrOppositeTime to get creative, as my main camera is my n90009:08
DocScrutinizer05preferably even a few more than one09:08
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DocScrutinizer05do you have a scanner?09:09
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MrOppositeI do, in fact, have a scanner09:09
DocScrutinizer05_some_ scanners are *great* for higres-macros09:09
MrOppositemy old digital camera is useless on macros it seems09:10
MrOppositebrb, check my scanner09:11
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DocScrutinizer05the last 6 pics are from scanner09:14
MrOppositehmm, cool09:16
MrOppositeI didn't have the scanner drivers installed09:16
MrOppositeso I'm just gonna install those09:16
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MrOppositeHow do I get the part which holds the memory card loose?09:19
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MrOppositeDocScrutinizer05 ^09:21
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DocScrutinizer05gently pry it off, it's held by doublesided sticky tape09:23
DocScrutinizer05be extremely carefull with the flexible part of the PCB, it's NOT fixable09:23
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DocScrutinizer05quite sturdy but not fixable09:24
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DocScrutinizer05yw, np09:25
MrOppositeNow my "gentle prying tool" come in handy :P09:26
DocScrutinizer05ps: slightly increased temperature might help a lot09:28
DocScrutinizer05like ~40°C09:28
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DocScrutinizer05but not mandatory, just you need more patience for sticky to come off when it's cold09:28
DocScrutinizer05might take a minute or two09:28
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DocScrutinizer05if the sticky gets too messed up during removal, just discard it (or cut off and discard the messed up parts) - it's not really needed09:30
DocScrutinizer05you also can use arbitrary similar ds-stickytape and cut small stripes from it to replace the original09:31
MrOppositeI already pried it off09:31
MrOppositeMy scanner didn't work THAT great though :(09:32
DocScrutinizer05good anyway, you now have access09:32
MrOppositeBut I think you can make out that I'm missing a pretty important part...09:33
DocScrutinizer05but yeah, your scanner is even more picky with focus distance than the one I used09:33
DocScrutinizer05yes, that's obvious09:33
DocScrutinizer05the question is if all the 5 small pads parallel to the border of PCB are silver still09:34
DocScrutinizer05I can't tell that from your scans09:34
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DocScrutinizer05then you're lucky :-D09:35
MrOppositeI'm quite unlucky09:35
MrOppositeWhere did I place my usb port?09:35
DocScrutinizer05soldering a new USB receptacle is basically a nobrainer09:35
MrOppositefound it09:36
MrOppositeI need a new one?09:36
DocScrutinizer05you should get a new one09:36
MrOppositewhere does one accuire a new one?09:36
DocScrutinizer05unless the old one looks like perfect condition09:36
MrOppositeold one looks pretty abused09:37
DocScrutinizer05ebay usually offers them, sometimes in packages of 1009:37
MrOppositeWhile I have my n900 open09:37
MrOppositewhat can I do to fix my audio port?09:37
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MrOppositeThat one is non functional as well09:37
DocScrutinizer05check the locatiion where you would expect the AV receptacle09:37
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DocScrutinizer05you'll find there's no component09:38
DocScrutinizer05clean the golden pads09:38
MrOppositethanks for the help!09:38
DocScrutinizer05clean the springs of receptacle (still sitting in plastic case)09:38
DocScrutinizer05paper is best for cleaning09:38
DocScrutinizer05unvarnished paper, like newspaper09:39
MrOppositeNo alcohol or similar?09:39
DocScrutinizer05or some business cards are like that09:39
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DocScrutinizer05no detergents09:39
DocScrutinizer05just thoroughly (springs: carefully) rub/brush it with paper09:40
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DocScrutinizer05if you dare, you could *carefully* bend the springs out a 10%09:40
DocScrutinizer05so they get some power again to press against the pads09:41
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DocScrutinizer05but be *careful* not to break them, or you'll have to get a new AV receptacle from Nokia Care (probably ~2.99USD)09:41
MrOppositeThey're good now I think09:42
DocScrutinizer05inspect all contacts with a mignifying glass09:42
DocScrutinizer05also inspect the electric pads of USB and make sure they are no little craters lower then the surface of PCB around09:43
MrOppositeWill that work?09:43
DocScrutinizer05looks like09:43
MrOppositeI think I'll come back here when my parts arrive09:44
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DocScrutinizer05find somebody ho can actually solder those delicate things09:46
MrOppositeOkay, I guess I'll bring my half-broken n900 with me to romania in august09:46
DocScrutinizer05*good* cellphone repair shops should be willing and able to do it09:46
MrOppositeWhere the best solder guy I know lives...09:46
DocScrutinizer05protect camera lens with sticka tape09:47
MrOppositeah, good tip!09:47
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DocScrutinizer05and whoever touches the N900 PCB for repair or whatever, tell him to be damn careful with the flexible part!09:49
MrOppositethe memory card thing?09:49
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MrOppositewill do09:53
MrOppositethanks for all the help!09:53
DocScrutinizer05it's not really sensible/delicate, but you can't fix it, and some dudes just don't care about it at all so it actually breaks on bending it too much09:53
DocScrutinizer05the flex to screen half *is* *very* delicate09:54
MrOppositeah, yes, the ribbon cable09:54
MrOppositeI'm not gonna let anybody touch that :P09:54
MrOppositeother than the charging slot and the AV jack the phone is near mint09:56
MrOppositeI've had it in a flipcase the whole time09:57
DocScrutinizer05that's fine :-)09:57
MrOppositealthough the flipcase is worn as hell...09:57
DocScrutinizer05the flex to screen, the most delicate part (surprisingly) is the connector at end09:58
MrOppositeok, why?09:58
MrOppositeor rather09:58
MrOppositewhy is that suprising?09:58
DocScrutinizer05it's 3 layer with vias (interconnections soldered) between the layers. Bend it and they snap open09:59
DocScrutinizer05it's maybe a bit surprising since it looks and feels the sturdiest part of the whole flex cable09:59
DocScrutinizer05it isn't09:59
MrOppositeI guess you just saved me a bunch of money :P10:00
DocScrutinizer05my pleasure10:00
MrOppositeI was thinking of buying the new jolla phone though10:00
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DocScrutinizer05I preordered yesterday - though I tried hard to not do that10:01
kerio"noooo hand what are you doing? stop it! don't click on 'preorder'! no! nooooooooooooooo"10:01
DocScrutinizer05usually I expect the companies to send those things to me for free10:01
MrOppositeHeh, really?10:02
DocScrutinizer05damn bot10:02
MrOppositeWoohoo! my replacement phone (an older nokia) had a micro SD card10:02
infobot[joerg] an ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer10:02
MrOppositeand I just slided my n900 card into it10:02
MrOppositeOh, cool10:03
DocScrutinizer05good MOOOOORNING!10:03
MrOppositeand now I can listen to my media files even though I can't ssh10:03
infobotHard work may pay off later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Work hard at hardly working!10:04
infobotSince Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 4 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 2h 31m 5s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids.  I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 7.55/0.25 child 0/010:04
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MrOppositeIt feels weird having 16gb on this old phone...10:10
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DocScrutinizer05take care, it might mess up the filesystem when you dare to write to it10:11
DocScrutinizer05if it isn't designed to handle 16GB10:11
MrOppositeMy phones internal memory is not large enough to build the multimedia library from my SD card10:12
DocScrutinizer05haha, see what I mean ;-)10:12
MrOppositeremoved an image and now I'm good to go :P10:13
* DocScrutinizer05 suddenly notices that with the thinkpad T500 also the cardreader went out of business and now no more way to access cards directly from my PC10:14
* DocScrutinizer05 should get a USB cardreader10:15
MrOppositeMy phone froze...10:15
MrOppositeI miss my n900 :(10:15
infobotSince Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 5 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 2h 43m 12s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids.  I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8.05/0.31 child 0/010:16
MrOppositeI have a bot as well10:17
MrOppositeOn a friends-only channel10:17
MrOppositeAnd that bot can execute python10:17
MrOppositeand my friends told it to calculate a gogoplex10:17
DocScrutinizer05well, this one isn't "my" bot, i just have some admin privileges on it10:17
infobot87/87 channels, 2039 users, 1494 unique: #gsoc/325, #maemo/214, #asterisk/183, #oe/144, #harmattan/117, #meego/113, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/36, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #wowprogramming/12, ##ducleague/11, #flow3/11, ...10:17
MrOppositeApparently my server was running at 100% CPU for about a week10:17
DocScrutinizer05wut? 87??10:18
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MrOpposite&echo Hi!10:18
MrOpposite&python import urllib110:18
OppobotException: No module named urllib110:18
MrOpposite&python import urllib210:18
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MrOppositeNo need to have him hanging around in channels such as this, he has no reason to be here10:19
MrOppositeBut yeah10:19
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DocScrutinizer05was about time10:19
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infobot86/87 channels, 2038 users, 1496 unique: #gsoc/326, #maemo/215, #asterisk/184, #oe/145, #harmattan/119, #meego/116, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/37, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #flow3/12, ##ducleague/11, #debianppc/11, ...10:20
MrOppositewhat's wrong? :O10:20
DocScrutinizer05wasn't this 117 a few weeks ago?10:20
MrOppositeDunno, I'm not that active on IRC10:21
DocScrutinizer05sure sure10:21
DocScrutinizer05also OT in here, I'll ask Tim (owner)10:21
MrOppositewoah that micro usb port is dusty!10:26
MrOppositeI wonder... is that data only, or can I charge from it?10:27
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MrOppositenope, no charging from usb10:29
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MrOppositeThis phone does NOT have true multitasking...10:32
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MrOppositeIt barely have singletasking10:32
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MrOppositeI think I can say the same11:29
MrOppositeI think I just bricked my backup phone...11:29
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!11:30
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DocScrutinizer05freenode fscks ibot11:59
DocScrutinizer05they obviously changed some join policy11:59
DocScrutinizer05the bot goes nuts on trying to join all the channels he's supposed to join12:00
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DocScrutinizer05MrOpposite: reset to factory may help12:14
DocScrutinizer05there's usually a method documented in phone's manual. like press+hold 0+2+5+8 while powering on12:15
DocScrutinizer05or 1+5+912:15
DocScrutinizer05at least on devices with hw numeric kbd12:15
DocScrutinizer05other devices may have a reste switch somewhere12:16
DocScrutinizer05sorry infobot dead12:16
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!12:19
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jaskamicrosoft infobob12:19
DocScrutinizer05freenode denies any changes to /join policy12:20
DocScrutinizer05nevertheless the bot gets lots of rejects, and eventually goes down completely after 10min12:20
DocScrutinizer05busy like hell12:21
DocScrutinizer05sth severely broken12:21
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DocScrutinizer05RTT 71s12:23
DocScrutinizer05and I bet in 5 min it goes down again12:24
DocScrutinizer05also 58chan FFS12:24
DocScrutinizer05been 12612:24
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DocScrutinizer0515min, not 512:41
DocScrutinizer05Dr Riker to the Emergency Room please!12:42
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ibotOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer05)14:58
jaskai, bot.14:59
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DocScrutinizer05ibot: botsnack15:00
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ibot:), DocScrutinizer0515:00
ibotDocScrutinizer05: thanks15:00
DocScrutinizer05all I can do for now15:01
DocScrutinizer05I just hope Tim isn't in holiday as well, like marius15:02
DocScrutinizer05friggin bots15:02
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ibotuser docscrutinizer05 or ibot does not exist.15:10
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DocScrutinizer05just for those who aren't aware and might wonder: shutting down the N900 takes ~15s *after* the screen gone black and white indicator LED faded away16:11
DocScrutinizer05just in case you wonder when it's safe to remove the battery - better wait another 30s after it seems like device has shut down16:12
DocScrutinizer05(you can *test* it though: device is down when indicator LED comes up (fades in) when you briefly (<1s) press the power button)16:13
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auenfyea, always noticed it wouldnt turn straight back on after the led went out16:28
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DocScrutinizer05dman recaller doesn't record SIP calls16:39
DocScrutinizer05first line of /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/    <U+FEFF>#!/bin/sh16:43
jaskaunicode bom16:43
jon_ymore like bomb16:43
jon_ywindows editors do that a lot16:44
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DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# head -n 1 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/|od -cx16:46
DocScrutinizer050000000 357 273 277   #   !   /   b   i   n   /   s   h  \n16:46
DocScrutinizer05           bbef    23bf    2f21    6962    2f6e    6873    000a16:46
DocScrutinizer05and it *still* works, kudos to linux16:46
DocScrutinizer05though actually, that's a weird shebang for a python prog16:47
DocScrutinizer05I guess it never worked16:48
DocScrutinizer05I'd bet the .desktop invokes "python /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/"16:48
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, no16:52
DocScrutinizer05it's a widget, but where does it get started?16:52
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DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# grep Exec /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.tomch.recaller.service16:54
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ll /opt/
DocScrutinizer05ls: Zugriff auf /opt/ nicht möglich: No such file or directory16:54
DocScrutinizer05HD widgets are weird16:55
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DocScrutinizer05anyway: grep "#The usual way" -A28 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py17:01
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infobotmethinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for.19:04
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo .19:04
infobot. -- last modified at Mon Dec 26 01:43:05 2011 by dwc-!dwc@; it has been requested 75 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 14s ago.19:04
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infobotDocScrutinizer05: aw, gee20:29
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys txd20:29
infobotFactoid search of 'txd' by key returned no results.20:29
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys fm20:29
infobotFactoid search of 'fm' by key (20 of 137): airport fmo ;; binfmt-464c ;; ;; efmc ;; fmenu ;; fmscore ;; hopwfm ;; jeffm2501 ;; leafmonkeys ;; leifmadsen ;; lfm ;; libhildonfm2 ;; sfm ;; tfm ;; wafm ;; weathercode cwfm ;; weathercode fmee ;; weathercode fmna ;; weathercode fmnl ;; weathercode fmsd.20:29
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DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: you're sure?20:30
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues fmtx20:30
infobotFactoid search of 'fmtx' by value returned no results.20:30
merlin1991I was hoping there might be one20:31
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merlin1991~seen chemist20:51
merlin1991~seen chem|st20:51
infobotchemist <chemist@> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 790d 17h 35m 37s ago, saying: 'it doesn't matter which mirror I try, I get "mirror does not support the specified release (squeeze)" every time'.20:51
infobotchem|st is currently on #maemo #harmattan #maemo-ssu, last said: 'Win7Mac: and again... I am no admin of m.o I am talkmaster only'.20:51
merlin1991then my autocomplete is trolling me :D20:51
merlin1991according to my client he is offline20:52
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merlin1991~ask infobot why you so drunk?=20:53
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merlin1991heh seems my client is drunk20:54
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DocScrutinizer05ohwell, quassel20:54
DocScrutinizer05btw is all i found20:54
merlin1991well it could also be that the various netsplits of the last days had this effect20:55
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DocScrutinizer05and a cloudy memory that patched fmtxd been courtesy jacekowski20:55
merlin1991hist weburl/binary/* is 403 now though :/20:55
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SaifNew maemo user, Bought a used mobile from ebay. got a couple of questions.20:59
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infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.21:00
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SaifOkay.. I got a lot to ask. First thing is my fone was slow for about about 2 hours. I switched it off. Now when  I boot it up, it shows a boot menu. when I choose the first setting. Its ot starting up.21:03
merlin1991you bought it on ebay I'd start with a clean full reflash of the system21:05
infoboti guess maemo-flashing is
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SaifWell, The battery was low. Now I swapped with another battery and it boots up maemo. Why? low battery causes some issue like that?21:05
Saif@merlin. I also thought about flashing. but before I do that, I guess I need the lock code. ??21:07
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Saifthat slow down issue is fixed somehow. I guess that too was a problem of low battery.21:09
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Saifbut the major question I wanted to ask is when I try to make calls, it says cellular connection not avaible something like that. I wanted to know whether It can be fixed by flashing or is thatsome kind of operator lock.?21:12
SaifI may go offline anytime if power fails.. here its raining heavily.21:16
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SaifCan Nokia software updater do flashing or should i use the flasher. silly doubt.21:19
GI_Jacksaif - use the flasher21:20
GI_Jackalso, look into live updates21:20
GI_Jackand you can use apt on the command line like debian21:20
GI_Jackand look into the CSSU, which is the community support project21:20
Saifokay. does it require lock code bcoz i dont know the code21:20
GI_Jackyou need a working data connection, wireless counts21:21
GI_Jackand you nee droot21:21
GI_Jackor go into the software app, and update21:21
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Saifokay,I am gonna flash it.21:21
GI_Jackthe nokia page for maemo flasher is down, probably for good21:21
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GI_Jackthere is a community mirror which needs to codes21:21
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GI_Jackcheck the wiki, and search the forums at maemo.org21:22
GI_Jackthe n900 has an unlocked bootloader, and none of them are carrier branded or locked21:22
Saifso why cant I make calls. if its not locked why is it saying like cellular network not availabe. I will go with this page and flash it.21:24
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Saiflittle help need to choose correct bin file.21:27
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SaifI am downloading latest vanilla 10.2010.13-2 ~250mb and latest maemo 5 release for n900 ~190. tell me if I am doing wrong.21:32
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GI_Jacksaif most of them are marked by reigon, download the one for you,21:42
GI_Jackshould be a FIASCO image21:42
GI_Jackand follow the wiki on flashing on wiki.maemo.org21:42
Saifthanks but i am already following that guide.  bit worried bcoz am using win7 64.21:43
sixwheeledbeast^if it fails use a ubuntu or debian VM.21:44
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infoboti heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see  or
DocScrutinizer05lockcode should be 12345 if not changed from default22:06
DocScrutinizer05doing a full flash will NOT reset lockcode afaik22:07
infoboti heard lockcode is
DocScrutinizer05nokia page for flasher is NOT down, particularly not "for good"22:08
DocScrutinizer05infobot: botsnack22:08
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast^: he left?22:10
DocScrutinizer05aah no22:10
DocScrutinizer05Saif: ^^^^22:10
DocScrutinizer05but bots leaving22:10
Saifnooo am here22:11
SaifI was looking at the links22:11
sixwheeledbeast^dunno? on maemo irc so basic functions only22:11
DocScrutinizer05anyway, get flasher-3.5 from the page suggested on
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sixwheeledbeast^bye infobot...22:12
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast^: I had a reado/typo, tried to tab-expand sar22:12
Saifso.. I alrready installed 3.12.122:14
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Saifsorry I dindt see the other file. will be uninstalling 3.12.1 and install 3.522:15
Saifman cannot download 3.5, chrome says 'Duplicate headers received from server'.22:17
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Saifdownloaded with ie22:25
Saif3.5 flasher not compatible with win 7??? hmm22:26
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sixwheeledbeast^well it is from 200922:27
sixwheeledbeast^as I said before if it will not work only option is a Debian VM.22:28
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Saifi had arleady installed version 3.12. will that be enough. It be easy for me to use windows22:29
sixwheeledbeast^only flasher-3.5 will work for fremantle.22:30
Saifokay.. now i got it. will be downloading debian VM.22:30
Saifby the way what about the links posted by infobot. they seem to newer versions than the links from wiki.22:31
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sixwheeledbeast^there are multiple places to get things. If the filename is the same it's the same.22:33
DocScrutinizer05ohdamn, first virus spam ever that looked semi-convincing (almost no typos and a plausible lawyer blabla, attached rogue .zip)22:38
sixwheeledbeast^and that effects non windows users because...22:39
Saiflatest version in the '' page is PR1.3 version 20.2010.36-2, but in infobots link its PR1.3.1  v21.2011.38-122:40
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DocScrutinizer05yes, the pr1.3.1 is under the links infobot posted before22:40
sixwheeledbeast^20.2010 isn't PR1.3.122:40
DocScrutinizer05the difference is minimal22:41
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sixwheeledbeast^agreed OTA the update22:41
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DocScrutinizer05he better reflashes22:42
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DocScrutinizer05and when he has a choice, he better goes for v21.2011.38-122:42
DocScrutinizer05even when that increases my server traffic ;-P22:42
DocScrutinizer05I need a justification for those 19bucks / months on my balance ;-)22:43
sixwheeledbeast^well you have the bandwidth now...22:44
DocScrutinizer05I always had22:44
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DocScrutinizer05or bandwidth problems22:45
DocScrutinizer05it's a decent hetzner vserver22:45
DocScrutinizer05I copy from other hetzner based URLs with wget @ 100MByte/s22:46
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DocScrutinizer05when I fetched a 20MB file from merlin1991's box, I thought the cmd failed, until I noticed the file been actually downloaded in 0.1s22:48
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Saifbut my speeds are too low. you guys may say that I am from a third world, but its too low and tough to avoid your sleep for a slow download.22:50
sixwheeledbeast^I only wish for a stable connection I'd be happy with ~1M down.22:50
sixwheeledbeast^DocScrutinizer05: meeting next thursday I guess this is BoD meeting?22:52
SaifI am not telling my speeds, bcoz you guys may get ashamed.22:53
sixwheeledbeast^I currently get about 200k down intermittantly.22:54
sixwheeledbeast^whats 10am Eastern in Zulu?22:55
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SaifIs there any latest version of vannila than 10.2010.13-2. or I think I really need not care becoz its the emmc contents.22:56
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sixwheeledbeast^use the latest version22:59
sixwheeledbeast^I haven't got versions to hand23:00
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nox-sixwheeledbeast^, more like 140023:01
Saifokay. latest from the talblets~dev page is what i got23:01
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sixwheeledbeast^eh? eastern US? or Eastern Europe?23:01
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* nox- guesst eastern u.s.23:03
nox-guessed even23:03
Saifare you asking me. I cant even understand the question23:04
nox-Saif, no, sixwheeledbeast^23:04
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nox-Saif, <sixwheeledbeast^> whats 10am Eastern in Zulu?23:04
sixwheeledbeast^maybe I worked it out wrong then23:05
Saifits okay, my bad. english is not my native language.23:05
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nox-sixwheeledbeast^, TZ=America/New_York date23:05
nox-sixwheeledbeast^, TZ=Z date23:06
nox-tells you the time in whatever timezone23:06
nox-heh and that even works on maemo :)23:09
sixwheeledbeast^nox-: is this in a terminal? I looked on openworldclock and New York is -0400 so thats 1400UTC.23:11
nox-yeah, in a terminal23:11
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sixwheeledbeast^mmm I didn't know that, what format must the date be in23:12
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DocScrutinizer05btw EDST23:16
DocScrutinizer05US anyway23:16
Saifanother silly quetion. You mean debian vm as a virtual machine running linux os right? If thats thecase Ive got virtual box and ubuntu image on my harddisk. will that be enough.23:17
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Saifsaved some time.. haha23:18
nox-sixwheeledbeast^, date is a command, tells the current time by default23:19
Saifby the way Ive got slackware as dual boot in my PC, but I wont use it, because I am afraid of it.. :)23:19
sixwheeledbeast^is it 32bit ubuntu?23:21
Saifits 12.04 amd6423:22
sixwheeledbeast^ok you will have to install the flasher with --force-arch. I also seem to have trouble flashing emmc's on my amd6423:23
Saifagain trouble with 64.. no place for a noob in this world.23:25
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sixwheeledbeast^<sixwheeledbeast^: well it is from 2009>23:26
sixwheeledbeast^it worked on the latest win/mac/debian 32when released23:27
SaifChoices are, I got a wary puppy 5.22 iso and a windows xp sp3 iso.23:31
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sixwheeledbeast^infobot: botsnack23:54
infobot:), sixwheeledbeast^23:54
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