IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2013-06-13

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RoDi	does somebody know how to install pyrcc4 on the n900?	01:22
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mad_dev	RoDi: Give me a sec	01:27
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mad_dev	RoDi: it should be in python2.5-qt4-dev	01:34
RoDi	ok thanks	01:36
mad_dev	np	01:36
RoDi	mad_dev: it's not in it :/	01:40
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mad_dev	RoDi: sorry about the prolonged response, I am sure not where it is or that if it is in fact available for maemo.	02:20
mad_dev	*not sure	02:20
mad_dev	If you could just tell me what you are trying to accomplish, I may assist you.	02:20
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DocScrutinizer05	logging is back to normal in #maemo, thanks marius gedminas who took care of it despite being in holiday	02:25
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DocScrutinizer05	chanlogs of last 7 days can be found at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/maemo/	02:27
DocScrutinizer05	(alas not searchable by "normal" means)	02:28
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DocScrutinizer05	sorry	02:29
DocScrutinizer05	chanlogs of last 7 days can be found at http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/maemo/	02:29
RoDi	mad_dev: i'm trying to run this script to compile a ui for the new version of anki2 https://github.com/dae/anki/blob/master/tools/build_ui.sh	02:29
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RoDi	i'll just find something else and run it on a debian or ubuntu machine instead	02:31
RoDi	...hm or i could install easy debian in fact	02:32
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mad_dev	Probably the only way, unless someone could point you to pyrcc4 for maemo or pyuic4 for that matter	02:34
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Ex-Opesa	HI, the camera-ui2 stuck a lot after I capture more then 1-2 pictures. I am not able to take pictures in row. I like CSSU, is there anyway to remove camera-ui2?	06:16
Ex-Opesa	Thank you.	06:16
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Ex-Opesa	I just turned off the preview, its working absolutely fine now.	06:43
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oldtopmann	Question (if anyone's around). I installed Easy Debian, and the phone self-rebooted. Now "debian lxde" instantly closes.	07:28
oldtopmann	What can I do to fix it?	07:28
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oldtopmann	Getting a few stale nfs errors, seems like the chroot fs is corrupt :/	07:53
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MrOpposite	Bye bye n900 :(	08:32
MrOpposite	My micro-usb port is dead	08:32
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DocScrutinizer05	MrOpposite: fix it, find sb to fix it, or offer the device for purchase here	08:43
DocScrutinizer05	~usbfix	08:43
infobot	[usbfix] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and NEVER use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)	08:43
MrOpposite	hmm	08:46
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DocScrutinizer05	oldtopmann: yeah, sounds like that. Anyway you're lucky, stale NFS usually fixable by fsck	08:55
DocScrutinizer05	for the reboot during installation, check for general "reboot while copying large files ..." error, and swappolube resp generic tweaks to IO-settings	08:56
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DocScrutinizer05	MrOpposite: if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask	09:07
MrOpposite	Yeah	09:07
MrOpposite	UHm	09:07
MrOpposite	I just disassembled my n900	09:07
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DocScrutinizer05	be careful with tha flex connector	09:07
MrOpposite	and I'm holding my USB-port in one hand	09:07
MrOpposite	and the motherboard in the other	09:07
MrOpposite	now what?	09:07
DocScrutinizer05	make a macro snapshot of the PCB where USB been, post URL here	09:08
MrOpposite	Ah	09:08
MrOpposite	Uhm	09:08
MrOpposite	Hmm	09:08
MrOpposite	Time to get creative, as my main camera is my n900	09:08
DocScrutinizer05	preferably even a few more than one	09:08
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DocScrutinizer05	do you have a scanner?	09:09
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MrOpposite	I do, in fact, have a scanner	09:09
DocScrutinizer05	_some_ scanners are great for higres-macros	09:09
MrOpposite	my old digital camera is useless on macros it seems	09:10
MrOpposite	brb, check my scanner	09:11
DocScrutinizer05	see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/	09:11
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DocScrutinizer05	the last 6 pics are from scanner	09:14
MrOpposite	hmm, cool	09:16
MrOpposite	anyhow	09:16
MrOpposite	I didn't have the scanner drivers installed	09:16
MrOpposite	so I'm just gonna install those	09:16
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MrOpposite	Hmm	09:19
MrOpposite	How do I get the part which holds the memory card loose?	09:19
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MrOpposite	DocScrutinizer05 ^	09:21
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DocScrutinizer05	gently pry it off, it's held by doublesided sticky tape	09:23
DocScrutinizer05	be extremely carefull with the flexible part of the PCB, it's NOT fixable	09:23
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DocScrutinizer05	quite sturdy but not fixable	09:24
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MrOpposite	thanks	09:25
DocScrutinizer05	yw, np	09:25
MrOpposite	Now my "gentle prying tool" come in handy :P	09:26
DocScrutinizer05	ps: slightly increased temperature might help a lot	09:28
DocScrutinizer05	like ~40°C	09:28
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DocScrutinizer05	but not mandatory, just you need more patience for sticky to come off when it's cold	09:28
DocScrutinizer05	might take a minute or two	09:28
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DocScrutinizer05	if the sticky gets too messed up during removal, just discard it (or cut off and discard the messed up parts) - it's not really needed	09:30
DocScrutinizer05	you also can use arbitrary similar ds-stickytape and cut small stripes from it to replace the original	09:31
MrOpposite	Uhm	09:31
MrOpposite	I already pried it off	09:31
MrOpposite	http://imgur.com/a/XSQEG	09:31
MrOpposite	My scanner didn't work THAT great though :(	09:32
DocScrutinizer05	mhm	09:32
DocScrutinizer05	good anyway, you now have access	09:32
MrOpposite	But I think you can make out that I'm missing a pretty important part...	09:33
DocScrutinizer05	but yeah, your scanner is even more picky with focus distance than the one I used	09:33
DocScrutinizer05	yes, that's obvious	09:33
DocScrutinizer05	the question is if all the 5 small pads parallel to the border of PCB are silver still	09:34
DocScrutinizer05	I can't tell that from your scans	09:34
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MrOpposite	uhm	09:35
MrOpposite	yeah	09:35
DocScrutinizer05	then you're lucky :-D	09:35
MrOpposite	uhm	09:35
MrOpposite	no	09:35
MrOpposite	I'm quite unlucky	09:35
MrOpposite	Where did I place my usb port?	09:35
DocScrutinizer05	soldering a new USB receptacle is basically a nobrainer	09:35
MrOpposite	found it	09:36
MrOpposite	I need a new one?	09:36
DocScrutinizer05	you should get a new one	09:36
MrOpposite	where does one accuire a new one?	09:36
DocScrutinizer05	unless the old one looks like perfect condition	09:36
MrOpposite	old one looks pretty abused	09:37
DocScrutinizer05	ebay usually offers them, sometimes in packages of 10	09:37
MrOpposite	While I have my n900 open	09:37
MrOpposite	what can I do to fix my audio port?	09:37
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MrOpposite	That one is non functional as well	09:37
DocScrutinizer05	ooooh	09:37
DocScrutinizer05	check the locatiion where you would expect the AV receptacle	09:37
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DocScrutinizer05	you'll find there's no component	09:38
DocScrutinizer05	clean the golden pads	09:38
MrOpposite	okay	09:38
MrOpposite	thanks for the help!	09:38
DocScrutinizer05	clean the springs of receptacle (still sitting in plastic case)	09:38
DocScrutinizer05	paper is best for cleaning	09:38
DocScrutinizer05	unvarnished paper, like newspaper	09:39
MrOpposite	Okay	09:39
MrOpposite	No alcohol or similar?	09:39
DocScrutinizer05	or some business cards are like that	09:39
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DocScrutinizer05	no	09:39
DocScrutinizer05	no detergents	09:39
MrOpposite	ok	09:39
DocScrutinizer05	just thoroughly (springs: carefully) rub/brush it with paper	09:40
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DocScrutinizer05	if you dare, you could carefully bend the springs out a 10%	09:40
DocScrutinizer05	so they get some power again to press against the pads	09:41
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DocScrutinizer05	but be careful not to break them, or you'll have to get a new AV receptacle from Nokia Care (probably ~2.99USD)	09:41
MrOpposite	okay	09:42
MrOpposite	They're good now I think	09:42
DocScrutinizer05	inspect all contacts with a mignifying glass	09:42
DocScrutinizer05	mag..	09:42
DocScrutinizer05	also inspect the electric pads of USB and make sure they are no little craters lower then the surface of PCB around	09:43
MrOpposite	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-7210C-N86-C5-03-N900-Micro-USB-Charging-Block-Unit-Port-Connector-New-UK-/170826356694?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item27c60b57d6	09:43
MrOpposite	Will that work?	09:43
DocScrutinizer05	yes	09:43
DocScrutinizer05	looks like	09:43
MrOpposite	I think I'll come back here when my parts arrive	09:44
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DocScrutinizer05	ok	09:45
DocScrutinizer05	find somebody ho can actually solder those delicate things	09:46
DocScrutinizer05	who*	09:46
MrOpposite	Okay, I guess I'll bring my half-broken n900 with me to romania in august	09:46
DocScrutinizer05	good cellphone repair shops should be willing and able to do it	09:46
MrOpposite	Where the best solder guy I know lives...	09:46
DocScrutinizer05	protect camera lens with sticka tape	09:47
MrOpposite	ah, good tip!	09:47
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DocScrutinizer05	and whoever touches the N900 PCB for repair or whatever, tell him to be damn careful with the flexible part!	09:49
MrOpposite	the memory card thing?	09:49
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DocScrutinizer05	yes	09:52
MrOpposite	will do	09:53
MrOpposite	thanks for all the help!	09:53
DocScrutinizer05	it's not really sensible/delicate, but you can't fix it, and some dudes just don't care about it at all so it actually breaks on bending it too much	09:53
DocScrutinizer05	the flex to screen half is very delicate	09:54
MrOpposite	ah, yes, the ribbon cable	09:54
MrOpposite	I'm not gonna let anybody touch that :P	09:54
MrOpposite	other than the charging slot and the AV jack the phone is near mint	09:56
MrOpposite	I've had it in a flipcase the whole time	09:57
DocScrutinizer05	that's fine :-)	09:57
MrOpposite	although the flipcase is worn as hell...	09:57
DocScrutinizer05	the flex to screen, the most delicate part (surprisingly) is the connector at end	09:58
MrOpposite	ok, why?	09:58
MrOpposite	or rather	09:58
MrOpposite	why is that suprising?	09:58
DocScrutinizer05	it's 3 layer with vias (interconnections soldered) between the layers. Bend it and they snap open	09:59
MrOpposite	oh	09:59
DocScrutinizer05	it's maybe a bit surprising since it looks and feels the sturdiest part of the whole flex cable	09:59
DocScrutinizer05	it isn't	09:59
MrOpposite	yeah	09:59
MrOpposite	I guess you just saved me a bunch of money :P	10:00
DocScrutinizer05	my pleasure	10:00
MrOpposite	I was thinking of buying the new jolla phone though	10:00
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DocScrutinizer05	I preordered yesterday - though I tried hard to not do that	10:01
kerio	hahaha	10:01
kerio	"noooo hand what are you doing? stop it! don't click on 'preorder'! no! nooooooooooooooo"	10:01
DocScrutinizer05	usually I expect the companies to send those things to me for free	10:01
MrOpposite	Heh, really?	10:02
DocScrutinizer05	~joerg	10:02
DocScrutinizer05	damn bot	10:02
MrOpposite	Woohoo! my replacement phone (an older nokia) had a micro SD card	10:02
MrOpposite	slot	10:02
infobot	[joerg] an ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer	10:02
MrOpposite	and I just slided my n900 card into it	10:02
MrOpposite	Oh, cool	10:03
DocScrutinizer05	good MOOOOORNING!	10:03
DocScrutinizer05	~lazy	10:03
MrOpposite	and now I can listen to my media files even though I can't ssh	10:03
DocScrutinizer05	~ping	10:04
DocScrutinizer05	omg	10:04
DocScrutinizer05	~+status	10:04
infobot	Hard work may pay off later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Work hard at hardly working!	10:04
infobot	~pong	10:04
infobot	Since Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 4 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 2h 31m 5s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids. I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 7.55/0.25 child 0/0	10:04
DocScrutinizer05	~ping	10:05
infobot	~pong	10:05
DocScrutinizer05	hmm	10:05
DocScrutinizer05	better	10:06
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MrOpposite	Hmm	10:10
MrOpposite	It feels weird having 16gb on this old phone...	10:10
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DocScrutinizer05	hehe	10:10
DocScrutinizer05	take care, it might mess up the filesystem when you dare to write to it	10:11
DocScrutinizer05	if it isn't designed to handle 16GB	10:11
MrOpposite	LOL	10:11
MrOpposite	My phones internal memory is not large enough to build the multimedia library from my SD card	10:12
kerio	happens	10:12
DocScrutinizer05	haha, see what I mean ;-)	10:12
MrOpposite	there	10:13
MrOpposite	removed an image and now I'm good to go :P	10:13
* DocScrutinizer05 suddenly notices that with the thinkpad T500 also the cardreader went out of business and now no more way to access cards directly from my PC		10:14
* DocScrutinizer05 should get a USB cardreader		10:15
MrOpposite	My phone froze...	10:15
MrOpposite	I miss my n900 :(	10:15
DocScrutinizer05	hah	10:15
DocScrutinizer05	~+status	10:16
infobot	Since Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 5 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 2h 43m 12s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids. I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8.05/0.31 child 0/0	10:16
MrOpposite	I have a bot as well	10:17
MrOpposite	On a friends-only channel	10:17
MrOpposite	And that bot can execute python	10:17
MrOpposite	and my friends told it to calculate a gogoplex	10:17
DocScrutinizer05	well, this one isn't "my" bot, i just have some admin privileges on it	10:17
DocScrutinizer05	~+chaninfo	10:17
infobot	87/87 channels, 2039 users, 1494 unique: #gsoc/325, #maemo/214, #asterisk/183, #oe/144, #harmattan/117, #meego/113, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/36, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #wowprogramming/12, ##ducleague/11, #flow3/11, ...	10:17
MrOpposite	Apparently my server was running at 100% CPU for about a week	10:17
DocScrutinizer05	wut? 87??	10:18
DocScrutinizer05	~die	10:18
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MrOpposite	&echo Hi!	10:18
Oppobot	Hi!	10:18
MrOpposite	&python import urllib1	10:18
Oppobot	Exception: No module named urllib1	10:18
MrOpposite	&python import urllib2	10:18
Oppobot	None	10:18
MrOpposite	&part	10:18
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MrOpposite	No need to have him hanging around in channels such as this, he has no reason to be here	10:19
MrOpposite	But yeah	10:19
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DocScrutinizer05	was about time	10:19
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DocScrutinizer05	~+chaninfo	10:20
infobot	86/87 channels, 2038 users, 1496 unique: #gsoc/326, #maemo/215, #asterisk/184, #oe/145, #harmattan/119, #meego/116, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/37, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #flow3/12, ##ducleague/11, #debianppc/11, ...	10:20
DocScrutinizer05	cough	10:20
MrOpposite	what's wrong? :O	10:20
DocScrutinizer05	wasn't this 117 a few weeks ago?	10:20
MrOpposite	Dunno, I'm not that active on IRC	10:21
DocScrutinizer05	sure sure	10:21
DocScrutinizer05	also OT in here, I'll ask Tim (owner)	10:21
MrOpposite	woah that micro usb port is dusty!	10:26
MrOpposite	I wonder... is that data only, or can I charge from it?	10:27
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MrOpposite	nope, no charging from usb	10:29
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MrOpposite	This phone does NOT have true multitasking...	10:32
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MrOpposite	It barely have singletasking	10:32
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DocScrutinizer05	FFS	11:28
MrOpposite	I think I can say the same	11:29
MrOpposite	I think I just bricked my backup phone...	11:29
Cor-Ai	aww	11:30
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DocScrutinizer05	freenode fscks ibot	11:59
DocScrutinizer05	they obviously changed some join policy	11:59
DocScrutinizer05	the bot goes nuts on trying to join all the channels he's supposed to join	12:00
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DocScrutinizer05	MrOpposite: reset to factory may help	12:14
DocScrutinizer05	there's usually a method documented in phone's manual. like press+hold 0+2+5+8 while powering on	12:15
DocScrutinizer05	or 1+5+9	12:15
DocScrutinizer05	at least on devices with hw numeric kbd	12:15
DocScrutinizer05	other devices may have a reste switch somewhere	12:16
DocScrutinizer05	reset*	12:16
DocScrutinizer05	sorry infobot dead	12:16
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jaska	microsoft infobob	12:19
DocScrutinizer05	freenode denies any changes to /join policy	12:20
DocScrutinizer05	nevertheless the bot gets lots of rejects, and eventually goes down completely after 10min	12:20
DocScrutinizer05	~+chaninfo	12:21
DocScrutinizer05	busy like hell	12:21
DocScrutinizer05	sth severely broken	12:21
infobot	58/58 channels, 2477 users, 2042 unique: #debian/1225, #maemo/219, #asterisk/191, #meego/122, #harmattan/121, #webos-internals/84, #wowhead/68, #/50, #maemo-ssu/47, #asterisk-dev/43, #n9/38, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/17, #nslu2-linux/16, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #flow3/13, #utos/12, #wowprogramming/11, #asterisk-doc/10, #ldstech/10, ##pxe/10, ##lds/9, #buglabs/8, #catroid/8, #elive/8, #sporewiki/7, #infobot/6, #flyspray/5, #openwest/5, ...	12:22
DocScrutinizer05	LOL	12:23
DocScrutinizer05	RTT 71s	12:23
DocScrutinizer05	and I bet in 5 min it goes down again	12:24
DocScrutinizer05	also 58chan FFS	12:24
DocScrutinizer05	been 126	12:24
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DocScrutinizer05	15min, not 5	12:41
DocScrutinizer05	Dr Riker to the Emergency Room please!	12:42
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ibot	Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer05)	14:58
DocScrutinizer05	~botsnack	14:59
jaska	i, bot.	14:59
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DocScrutinizer05	ibot: botsnack	15:00
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ibot	:), DocScrutinizer05	15:00
ibot	DocScrutinizer05: thanks	15:00
DocScrutinizer05	SIGH	15:00
DocScrutinizer05	anyway...	15:01
DocScrutinizer05	all I can do for now	15:01
DocScrutinizer05	I just hope Tim isn't in holiday as well, like marius	15:02
DocScrutinizer05	friggin bots	15:02
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DocScrutinizer05	~+chanset #maemo	15:03
ibot	chan: #maemo (see _default also)	15:03
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infobot	ibot: seen infobot	15:04
infobot	lol	15:04
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DocScrutinizer05	~chnick ibot infobot	15:10
ibot	user docscrutinizer05 or ibot does not exist.	15:10
DocScrutinizer05	uhuh	15:10
DocScrutinizer05	~wantnick	15:11
DocScrutinizer05	~wantnick infobot	15:11
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DocScrutinizer05	double-sigh	15:15
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DocScrutinizer05	doubledouble-sigh	15:22
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DocScrutinizer05	just for those who aren't aware and might wonder: shutting down the N900 takes ~15s after the screen gone black and white indicator LED faded away	16:11
DocScrutinizer05	just in case you wonder when it's safe to remove the battery - better wait another 30s after it seems like device has shut down	16:12
DocScrutinizer05	(you can test it though: device is down when indicator LED comes up (fades in) when you briefly (<1s) press the power button)	16:13
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auenf	yea, always noticed it wouldnt turn straight back on after the led went out	16:28
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DocScrutinizer05	dman recaller doesn't record SIP calls	16:39
DocScrutinizer05	first line of /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py: <U+FEFF>#!/bin/sh	16:43
DocScrutinizer05	LOL	16:43
jaska	.py	16:43
jaska	unicode bom	16:43
jon_y	more like bomb	16:43
jaska	yeah	16:43
jon_y	windows editors do that a lot	16:44
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DocScrutinizer05	IroN900:~# head -n 1 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py\|od -cx	16:46
DocScrutinizer05	0000000 357 273 277 # ! / b i n / s h \n	16:46
DocScrutinizer05	bbef 23bf 2f21 6962 2f6e 6873 000a	16:46
DocScrutinizer05	and it still works, kudos to linux	16:46
DocScrutinizer05	though actually, that's a weird shebang for a python prog	16:47
DocScrutinizer05	I guess it never worked	16:48
DocScrutinizer05	I'd bet the .desktop invokes "python /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py"	16:48
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DocScrutinizer05	hmm, no	16:52
DocScrutinizer05	it's a widget, but where does it get started?	16:52
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DocScrutinizer05	IroN900:~# grep Exec /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.tomch.recaller.service	16:54
DocScrutinizer05	Exec=/opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller	16:54
DocScrutinizer05	IroN900:~# ll /opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller	16:54
DocScrutinizer05	ls: Zugriff auf /opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller nicht möglich: No such file or directory	16:54
DocScrutinizer05	HD widgets are weird	16:55
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DocScrutinizer05	anyway: grep "#The usual way" -A28 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py	17:01
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DocScrutinizer05	\o/	18:04
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DocScrutinizer05	lol	19:04
DocScrutinizer05	~.	19:04
infobot	methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for.	19:04
DocScrutinizer05	~factinfo .	19:04
infobot	. -- last modified at Mon Dec 26 01:43:05 2011 by dwc-!dwc@205.209.190.118; it has been requested 75 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 14s ago.	19:04
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merlin1991	~fmtxd	20:19
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DocScrutinizer05	~botsnack	20:29
infobot	DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee	20:29
DocScrutinizer05	~listkeys txd	20:29
infobot	Factoid search of 'txd' by key returned no results.	20:29
DocScrutinizer05	~listkeys fm	20:29
infobot	Factoid search of 'fm' by key (20 of 137): airport fmo ;; binfmt-464c ;; di.fm ;; efmc ;; fmenu ;; fmscore ;; hopwfm ;; jeffm2501 ;; leafmonkeys ;; leifmadsen ;; lfm ;; libhildonfm2 ;; sfm ;; tfm ;; wafm ;; weathercode cwfm ;; weathercode fmee ;; weathercode fmna ;; weathercode fmnl ;; weathercode fmsd.	20:29
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DocScrutinizer05	merlin1991: you're sure?	20:30
merlin1991	?	20:30
DocScrutinizer05	~listvalues fmtx	20:30
infobot	Factoid search of 'fmtx' by value returned no results.	20:30
merlin1991	I was hoping there might be one	20:31
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merlin1991	~seen chemist	20:51
merlin1991	~seen chem\|st	20:51
infobot	chemist <chemist@78.33.177.154> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 790d 17h 35m 37s ago, saying: 'it doesn't matter which mirror I try, I get "mirror does not support the specified release (squeeze)" every time'.	20:51
infobot	chem\|st is currently on #maemo #harmattan #maemo-ssu, last said: 'Win7Mac: and again... I am no admin of m.o I am talkmaster only'.	20:51
merlin1991	then my autocomplete is trolling me :D	20:51
merlin1991	according to my client he is offline	20:52
merlin1991	wtf	20:52
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merlin1991	~ask infobot why you so drunk?=	20:53
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merlin1991	heh seems my client is drunk	20:54
DocScrutinizer05	yeah	20:54
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DocScrutinizer05	ohwell, quassel	20:54
DocScrutinizer05	btw http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=455833#post455833 is all i found	20:54
merlin1991	well it could also be that the various netsplits of the last days had this effect	20:55
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DocScrutinizer05	and a cloudy memory that patched fmtxd been courtesy jacekowski	20:55
merlin1991	hist weburl/binary/* is 403 now though :/	20:55
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Saif	New maemo user, Bought a used mobile from ebay. got a couple of questions.	20:59
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merlin1991	~ask	21:00
infobot	Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.	21:00
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Saif	Okay.. I got a lot to ask. First thing is my fone was slow for about about 2 hours. I switched it off. Now when I boot it up, it shows a boot menu. when I choose the first setting. Its ot starting up.	21:03
merlin1991	you bought it on ebay I'd start with a clean full reflash of the system	21:05
merlin1991	~flashing	21:05
infobot	i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware	21:05
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Saif	Well, The battery was low. Now I swapped with another battery and it boots up maemo. Why? low battery causes some issue like that?	21:05
Saif	@merlin. I also thought about flashing. but before I do that, I guess I need the lock code. ??	21:07
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Saif	that slow down issue is fixed somehow. I guess that too was a problem of low battery.	21:09
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Saif	but the major question I wanted to ask is when I try to make calls, it says cellular connection not avaible something like that. I wanted to know whether It can be fixed by flashing or is thatsome kind of operator lock.?	21:12
Saif	I may go offline anytime if power fails.. here its raining heavily.	21:16
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Saif	Can Nokia software updater do flashing or should i use the flasher. silly doubt.	21:19
GI_Jack	saif - use the flasher	21:20
GI_Jack	also, look into live updates	21:20
GI_Jack	and you can use apt on the command line like debian	21:20
GI_Jack	and look into the CSSU, which is the community support project	21:20
Saif	okay. does it require lock code bcoz i dont know the code	21:20
GI_Jack	no	21:20
GI_Jack	you need a working data connection, wireless counts	21:21
GI_Jack	and you nee droot	21:21
GI_Jack	root	21:21
GI_Jack	or go into the software app, and update	21:21
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Saif	okay,I am gonna flash it.	21:21
GI_Jack	the nokia page for maemo flasher is down, probably for good	21:21
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GI_Jack	there is a community mirror which needs to codes	21:21
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GI_Jack	check the wiki, and search the forums at maemo.org	21:22
GI_Jack	the n900 has an unlocked bootloader, and none of them are carrier branded or locked	21:22
Saif	so why cant I make calls. if its not locked why is it saying like cellular network not availabe. I will go with this page http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware and flash it.	21:24
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Saif	little help need to choose correct bin file.	21:27
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Saif	I am downloading latest vanilla 10.2010.13-2 ~250mb and latest maemo 5 release for n900 ~190. tell me if I am doing wrong.	21:32
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GI_Jack	saif most of them are marked by reigon, download the one for you,	21:42
GI_Jack	should be a FIASCO image	21:42
GI_Jack	and follow the wiki on flashing on wiki.maemo.org	21:42
GI_Jack	http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing	21:42
Saif	thanks but i am already following that guide. bit worried bcoz am using win7 64.	21:43
sixwheeledbeast^	if it fails use a ubuntu or debian VM.	21:44
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DocScrutinizer05	~pr131	22:06
infobot	i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin	22:06
DocScrutinizer05	lockcode should be 12345 if not changed from default	22:06
DocScrutinizer05	doing a full flash will NOT reset lockcode afaik	22:07
DocScrutinizer05	~lockcode	22:07
infobot	i heard lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522	22:07
DocScrutinizer05	nokia page for flasher is NOT down, particularly not "for good"	22:08
DocScrutinizer05	~tabletsdev	22:08
DocScrutinizer05	~flasher	22:08
DocScrutinizer05	GRRR	22:08
DocScrutinizer05	infobot: botsnack	22:08
DocScrutinizer05	sixwheeledbeast^: he left?	22:10
DocScrutinizer05	aah no	22:10
DocScrutinizer05	Saif: ^^^^	22:10
DocScrutinizer05	but bots leaving	22:10
Saif	nooo am here	22:11
Saif	I was looking at the links	22:11
sixwheeledbeast^	dunno? on maemo irc so basic functions only	22:11
DocScrutinizer05	anyway, get flasher-3.5 from the nokia.com page suggested on http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware	22:11
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sixwheeledbeast^	bye infobot...	22:12
DocScrutinizer05	sixwheeledbeast^: I had a reado/typo, tried to tab-expand sar	22:12
Saif	so.. I alrready installed 3.12.1	22:14
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Saif	sorry I dindt see the other file. will be uninstalling 3.12.1 and install 3.5	22:15
Saif	man cannot download 3.5, chrome says 'Duplicate headers received from server'.	22:17
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Saif	downloaded with ie	22:25
Saif	3.5 flasher not compatible with win 7??? hmm	22:26
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sixwheeledbeast^	well it is from 2009	22:27
sixwheeledbeast^	as I said before if it will not work only option is a Debian VM.	22:28
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Saif	i had arleady installed version 3.12. will that be enough. It be easy for me to use windows	22:29
sixwheeledbeast^	only flasher-3.5 will work for fremantle.	22:30
Saif	okay.. now i got it. will be downloading debian VM.	22:30
Saif	by the way what about the links posted by infobot. they seem to newer versions than the links from wiki.	22:31
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sixwheeledbeast^	there are multiple places to get things. If the filename is the same it's the same.	22:33
DocScrutinizer05	ohdamn, first virus spam ever that looked semi-convincing (almost no typos and a plausible lawyer blabla, attached rogue .zip)	22:38
sixwheeledbeast^	and that effects non windows users because...	22:39
Saif	latest version in the 'http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php' page is PR1.3 version 20.2010.36-2, but in infobots link its PR1.3.1 v21.2011.38-1	22:40
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DocScrutinizer05	yes, the pr1.3.1 is under the links infobot posted before	22:40
sixwheeledbeast^	20.2010 isn't PR1.3.1	22:40
DocScrutinizer05	the difference is minimal	22:41
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sixwheeledbeast^	agreed OTA the update	22:41
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DocScrutinizer05	he better reflashes	22:42
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DocScrutinizer05	and when he has a choice, he better goes for v21.2011.38-1	22:42
DocScrutinizer05	even when that increases my server traffic ;-P	22:42
sixwheeledbeast^	nod	22:42
DocScrutinizer05	I need a justification for those 19bucks / months on my balance ;-)	22:43
sixwheeledbeast^	well you have the bandwidth now...	22:44
DocScrutinizer05	I always had	22:44
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DocScrutinizer05	maemo.cloud-7 never had traffic issues	22:45
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DocScrutinizer05	or bandwidth problems	22:45
DocScrutinizer05	it's a decent hetzner vserver	22:45
DocScrutinizer05	I copy from other hetzner based URLs with wget @ 100MByte/s	22:46
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DocScrutinizer05	;-)	22:47
DocScrutinizer05	when I fetched a 20MB file from merlin1991's box, I thought the cmd failed, until I noticed the file been actually downloaded in 0.1s	22:48
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Saif	but my speeds are too low. you guys may say that I am from a third world, but its too low and tough to avoid your sleep for a slow download.	22:50
sixwheeledbeast^	I only wish for a stable connection I'd be happy with ~1M down.	22:50
sixwheeledbeast^	DocScrutinizer05: meeting next thursday I guess this is BoD meeting?	22:52
DocScrutinizer05	sure	22:52
Saif	I am not telling my speeds, bcoz you guys may get ashamed.	22:53
sixwheeledbeast^	I currently get about 200k down intermittantly.	22:54
sixwheeledbeast^	whats 10am Eastern in Zulu?	22:55
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Saif	Is there any latest version of vannila than 10.2010.13-2. or I think I really need not care becoz its the emmc contents.	22:56
sixwheeledbeast^	0600?	22:57
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Saif	??	22:59
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sixwheeledbeast^	use the latest version	22:59
sixwheeledbeast^	I haven't got versions to hand	23:00
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nox-	sixwheeledbeast^, more like 1400	23:01
Saif	okay. latest from the talblets~dev page is what i got	23:01
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sixwheeledbeast^	eh? eastern US? or Eastern Europe?	23:01
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* nox- guesst eastern u.s.		23:03
nox-	guessed even	23:03
Saif	are you asking me. I cant even understand the question	23:04
nox-	Saif, no, sixwheeledbeast^	23:04
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nox-	Saif, <sixwheeledbeast^> whats 10am Eastern in Zulu?	23:04
sixwheeledbeast^	maybe I worked it out wrong then	23:05
Saif	its okay, my bad. english is not my native language.	23:05
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nox-	sixwheeledbeast^, TZ=America/New_York date	23:05
nox-	sixwheeledbeast^, TZ=Z date	23:06
nox-	tells you the time in whatever timezone	23:06
nox-	heh and that even works on maemo :)	23:09
sixwheeledbeast^	nox-: is this in a terminal? I looked on openworldclock and New York is -0400 so thats 1400UTC.	23:11
nox-	yeah, in a terminal	23:11
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sixwheeledbeast^	mmm I didn't know that, what format must the date be in	23:12
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DocScrutinizer05	ohnoes	23:16
DocScrutinizer05	[2013-06-13 22:15:52] [Notify] ibot went offline (irc.freenode.net).	23:16
DocScrutinizer05	btw EDST	23:16
DocScrutinizer05	iirc	23:16
DocScrutinizer05	US anyway	23:16
Saif	another silly quetion. You mean debian vm as a virtual machine running linux os right? If thats thecase Ive got virtual box and ubuntu image on my harddisk. will that be enough.	23:17
sixwheeledbeast^	yes	23:17
DocScrutinizer05	yes	23:17
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sixwheeledbeast^	snap	23:17
Saif	saved some time.. haha	23:18
nox-	sixwheeledbeast^, date is a command, tells the current time by default	23:19
Saif	by the way Ive got slackware as dual boot in my PC, but I wont use it, because I am afraid of it.. :)	23:19
sixwheeledbeast^	is it 32bit ubuntu?	23:21
Saif	its 12.04 amd64	23:22
sixwheeledbeast^	ok you will have to install the flasher with --force-arch. I also seem to have trouble flashing emmc's on my amd64	23:23
Saif	again trouble with 64.. no place for a noob in this world.	23:25
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sixwheeledbeast^	<sixwheeledbeast^: well it is from 2009>	23:26
sixwheeledbeast^	it worked on the latest win/mac/debian 32when released	23:27
Saif	Choices are, I got a wary puppy 5.22 iso and a windows xp sp3 iso.	23:31
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sixwheeledbeast^	infobot: botsnack	23:54
infobot	:), sixwheeledbeast^	23:54
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