IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2013-05-31

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dr1fterhow do you upload a package to the repositories?00:39
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DocScrutinizer05you apply for, in your garage account01:16
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DocScrutinizer05I just downloaded and installed into suse vmm the ubuntu lucid desktop vm01:19
DocScrutinizer05seems pretty up to date, according to the readme files01:19
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: can't download it :(01:31
jon_yerror about duplicate http headers01:31
xesjoga:  try this:
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DocScrutinizer05jon_y: I dunno, I downloaded them via kget01:51
DocScrutinizer05actually you should go and "accept"01:52
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DocScrutinizer05then download will work, I guess01:53
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paviMy N900 doesnt recognise the USB . It recognises it when booting up aka it goes to a boot loop when there is a USB connected.01:53
DocScrutinizer05you should see a page with links and "save destination to"01:53
paviMy friend who opened the N900 says the hardware is intact01:53
DocScrutinizer05pavi: err what?01:54
DocScrutinizer05please elaborate, your description is a tad... cloudy01:54
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paviDocScrutinizer05: yeah I mean I dont get any dmesg from the PC . But N900 when connected with USB gives a message something about porte connected01:56
paviDocScrutinizer05: while booting N900 if I connect the USB to a power socket / PC it goes into a boot loop . I see the dark Nokia logo and yellow blinking .. later reboots01:56
DocScrutinizer05wait, you connect N900 to a linux box and there's nuttin showing up in a tail -f /var/log/messages ?01:57
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DocScrutinizer05not even when N900 been powered down?01:58
DocScrutinizer05I suspect your USB is absolutely ok but you messed up your rootfs/system01:59
paviDocScrutinizer05: let me give you what N900's dmesg says  one momentt01:59
DocScrutinizer05N900's dmesg? I think you can't even boot it?01:59
paviDocScrutinizer05: I used a battery charger02:00
DocScrutinizer05please try again to explain what works and what doesn't02:00
DocScrutinizer05I'm completely puzzled02:00
paviwhenever I connect USB .. on N900 dmesg I am getting the output tw14030_usb tw14030_usb: HW_CONDITIONS  0xd0/208; link202:03
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, ok. normal02:04
paviThats it , I am not getting the USB connecting dialogue or charging or even anything in PC's dmesg02:04
paviAlso before that I get slide GPIO is now closed and later open02:04
DocScrutinizer05do you have a linux PC?02:04
DocScrutinizer05slide is your kbd02:04
pavithats how I run dmesg02:04
DocScrutinizer05you closed and opened it02:05
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paviI am getting 0x50 / 80 when I removed the cable and 0xd0 /208 when I insert back the USB02:06
DocScrutinizer05please on linux PC, as root, do >># less "+F" /var/log/messages02:06
DocScrutinizer05then plug in the powered-down N900 and watch what you get,02:07
DocScrutinizer05(of course without the >>#)02:08
DocScrutinizer05less "+F" /var/log/messages02:08
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pavithere is no /var/log/messages I am using syslog instead02:09
DocScrutinizer05on some distros it's /var/log/syslog02:10
paviDocScrutinizer05: sadly nothing is happening .. its playing all by itself going into reboot looop . As far as linux machine is concerned , it doesnt recognise it .02:11
DocScrutinizer05what do you mean by "doesn't recognise it" ?02:14
DocScrutinizer05did you do a # less +F /var/log/syslog ?02:15
paviDocScrutinizer05: I mean no response in syslog or dmesg02:15
paviDocScrutinizer05: yes I did it02:15
DocScrutinizer05and there wasn't anything like02:15
DocScrutinizer05May 31 01:11:10 saturn kernel: [4833819.274022] usb 2-1.8: new high-speed USB device number 73 using ehci_hcd02:15
DocScrutinizer05May 31 01:11:11 saturn kernel: [4833819.446348] usb 2-1.8: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=010502:15
DocScrutinizer05May 31 01:11:11 saturn kernel: [4833819.446353] usb 2-1.8: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=502:15
DocScrutinizer05May 31 01:11:11 saturn kernel: [4833819.446356] usb 2-1.8: Product: Nokia N900 (Update mode)02:15
paviNothing not even a blink02:15
DocScrutinizer05when you plugged in the *powered-down* N900?02:15
paviYeah completely powered down 90002:15
DocScrutinizer05then your USB is defect02:16
pavishould I remove battery and try ?02:16
paviAhh but it never starts when I connect the USB to power source or PC .02:16
DocScrutinizer05you can remove battery, plug in N900 to PC and then insert battery02:16
DocScrutinizer05err wait, your N900 doesn't wake up and show any sign of life (LED or whatever) when powered down and plugged into PC?02:18
paviBy "sign of life" I mean the orange / light yellow light wakes up .. a dark nokia icon comesand 3 white dots come and waits .. it goes back to reboot with a vibration .02:19
paviit does that every time when I connect a powered down  N900 to power source/ PC02:20
DocScrutinizer05then at least your VBUS and GND lines on USB are OK02:20
DocScrutinizer05if data lines are also OK, then you MUST see that "Product: Nokia N900 (Update mode)" in PC's syslog02:21
DocScrutinizer05immediately after plugging in02:21
paviDocScrutinizer05: to fix the GSM issue of " telephony functions " my friend opened the device and we lost USB. He rechecked the hardware and says its intact02:22
paviMaybe as you said some data lines might have been broken in process02:22
DocScrutinizer05sorry, you lost USB?02:22
paviI mean by "lost" not being able to detect02:23
DocScrutinizer05ooh, so your freind destroyed the USB when opening the device?02:23
paviDocScrutinizer05: the issue came up after that but I dont blame him , my phone was anyway useless with the telephony functions issue .02:24
DocScrutinizer05hmm what did you do to fix that modem issue?02:24
paviHe had attached some springs to the shipset to help the chip fit tightly02:25
paviAnyways I cant even check the issue proprely because I have to borrow batter charger from friend02:26
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DocScrutinizer05he might have damaged about anything, so it's pretty hard to tell what's your root problem. Anyway every N900 will announce "kernel: [4833819.446348] usb 2-1.8: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=0105" in syslog/dmesg02:27
DocScrutinizer05if yours doesn't when plugged in to linux PC when powered down, then your USB hw is defect02:28
DocScrutinizer05or your cable is defect, or your PC02:28
paviDocScrutinizer05: any idea on how to fix it ?02:28
DocScrutinizer05alas not since, as mentioned, your friend might have damaged arbitrary components on board during that modem fixing02:29
paviSo practically its dead :(02:29
DocScrutinizer05removing the lids from the cans is pretty difficult and you easily can damage components during prying them open02:29
paviWish there is some modern phone like N90002:30
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DocScrutinizer05sorry for you and your N90002:30
DocScrutinizer05odds are you (or your friend) could fix it, once you find the defect02:32
paviMe cant do anything .. I stay in koblenz and he stays in berlin02:32
paviso its liek next trip02:32
DocScrutinizer05there's not that many components that could cause such error pattern02:32
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paviIs there a hardware manual to read and understand the problem ?02:33
DocScrutinizer05sorry, both too far from my hometown to give you a short visit02:33
DocScrutinizer05well, there are the schematics02:33
DocScrutinizer05not much else you could read to find the root cause of the problem02:33
paviohh ok . Where do you stay ?02:34
DocScrutinizer05there's a rather small number of components between USB and the 1707 chip which is the USB transceiver02:35
paviohh ok02:36
DocScrutinizer05if however the 1707 itself got damaged, there's probably not much you could do02:36
DocScrutinizer05the reboot loop when plugged to USB seems to indicate that it's actually the 1707 PHY that's causing system panics when trying to access USB02:37
DocScrutinizer05It's not easy to diagnose state of 170702:41
DocScrutinizer05but you could have a look at the chip02:41
DocScrutinizer05if it looks ok, then it's worth checking the other components between that chip and USB (electrically between, see schematics)02:42
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DocScrutinizer05pavi: I just checked. Even a perfectly working N900 shuts down after a few seconds and a few yellow flashes when connected to a charger that has the datalines not shorted02:52
paviDocScrutinizer05: thats good news02:53
DocScrutinizer05so your probelm doesn't necessarily indicate that 1707 is defect02:53
DocScrutinizer05it could be any breakage of datalines, even in the USB cable02:53
DocScrutinizer05and I learned sth new today \o/02:54
paviDocScrutinizer05: its not USB cable . I have tried with other cables02:55
DocScrutinizer05so, cehck your cable, check your USB receptacle in N900 with a magnifying glass, if there's maybe some debris in there so gold latches don't give comtact02:55
paviohh yeah sure .02:56
ds3anyone used the XpressMusic batteries on the N900?02:56
ecc3gI'm using my 5230 (nuron) battery on my N900... XpressMusic is the 5800?  They all use the BL5J battery...02:58
ecc3gand death to non gold-plated, non wide contact microusb plugs...02:58
ecc3goh... and keep in mind the 5230/5800 batteries are inserted upside down compared to the n900... so any battery taking advantage of that won't work.03:00
ds3as long as they are not duds03:03
ds3I just need a decent replacement battery... my original battery is down to like 4 hours of life per charge03:03
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ds3and Amazon happens to list the XpressMusic one03:04
ecc3gseems Nokia labeled a lot of phones "XpressMusic".  Make sure you look for the 5800, 5230, or Nuron battery.03:06
ecc3gOr that, if they are kind enough to write that.03:07
DocScrutinizer05if they don't, I'd be wary to buy such item03:07
ds3this is the guy:
ds3from the reviews it seems a lot of the genuine "new" Nokia batteries are used03:09
ecc3gsearching for "xpressmusic battery" in, the first hit actually says "n900" ...03:09
ecc3git says BL-5J, that should be fine.  And that looks like a generic, I'd be wary of buying that....03:10
ds3generic? what do you mean?03:11
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ds3thought 'XpressMusic' is a chinese brand?03:11
ecc3gthe picture looks like a no-name battery... there's a thread on t.m.o about tested batteries...03:11
ecc3gXpressMusic is a label Nokia made.03:11
ds3I saw the thread but they all refer to ebay03:12
ds3or DX03:12
ecc3gI actually bought a Japod from DX a while back as a spare.  It's still holding up.03:13
ds3but a DX purchase is a 2-3 month investment in time03:14
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ecc3gNokia BL5J's should be available in many local stores too if you need one fast, then....03:15
ecc3gactually... maybe not...03:15
ds3what is the capacity of a "BL5J"?03:15
ds3I see references to ~900mAH and also to ~1300mAH03:16
ecc3gThe only battery that is supposed to be called BL-5J is Nokia's, and it should be 1320mAH03:16
ds3and should the packaging be a small clear bag?03:16
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ecc3gI've never bought an OEM replacement so I don't know.  Both the 5230 and the n900 came with OEM BL5J's and those are the only ones I have.03:18
ecc3gThe Japod came in a nice box.  I suspect the BL5J should come at least ina blister pack....03:18
ds3reviews keep complaining it was shipped in a clear bag03:19
dr1fterDocScrutinizer05: i already have a garage account authorized to upload03:19
dr1fteri just need to make my first upload03:19
dr1fterit's a java program03:20
ds3hmmmm to chance a $5 generic battery...03:20
ecc3gshould go look for the known good generics, else go for the real deal...03:21
ds3the concern is the "real deal" are used batteries based on the reviews03:21
ds3one listing showed a blister pack but the reviews say they were receiving a plastic baggy battery03:21
ecc3gI think you have to take the risk... hard to tell which are still good or not.03:24
ds3in that case, I am leaning to the generics03:24
ecc3gI suspect a lot are NOS and those are suspect.03:24
ds3the chargers on the N900 seems decently designed03:24
ecc3gI sort of dislike the onboard N900 charger...03:34
ds3any specific complaints?03:38
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dr1fterI posted my new Google Authenticator solution here --
paviIn case it makes people happy .. we were sitting in linux tag talking about N900 annd voila 2 of the debian devs open their phones saying they have the same . I met like 3 other people in the event . Today was surprised a neighbour got one !03:44
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DocScrutinizer05so when so many N900 users out there, how comes only 94 voted in council elections?03:50
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DocScrutinizer05what do all those users think who's going to take care about their maemo infra in the future?03:51
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paviNo idea , maybe they all didnt know of that ? Or maybe they are just happy with their devices03:52
paviBut the good thing is people still use it despite lot of new android devices , my neighbour ditched it for nexus 403:52
dr1fteri want an n900 sequel03:53
ds3Nexus 4 is a still born03:54
DocScrutinizer05there's alot of N900 sequels out there. What you really want is a maemo5 device sequel I guess03:54
pavidr1fter: same here ! And there are lot of people who want them03:54
ds3the Galaxy Nexus might be a better choice03:54
paviI want a phone with N900 keyboard and maemo on it .03:55
ds3isn't a bunch of exNokians doing a Meego device?03:55
paviSailfish + jolla doesnt have keyboard "yet"03:55
DocScrutinizer05no, you mean jolla, and sailfish device03:55
ds3btw - is there any part of Maemo5 that depends on NOLO being there?03:56
DocScrutinizer05though i'm afraid your "meego device" claim wasn't that off03:56
DocScrutinizer05actually it seems to me that sailfish is way more HARM than fremantle, by design philosophy03:57
ds3really tempted to put a 512M memory + DM3730 in a N90003:57
DocScrutinizer05for NOLO, I don't think so03:57
paviDocScrutinizer05: so its definitely end of road for fremantle . The last best one is N900 ?03:58
ds3so if I can get U-boot running, I have a chance of running the rest of Maemo?03:58
ds3it is only about $300 to try03:58
paviDid anyone preorder jolla mobile ?03:59
DocScrutinizer05now THAT would be an awesome rework03:59
DocScrutinizer05pavi: sure, a lot03:59
paviIts promising but I am no sure of how much propreitary components it will have03:59
ds3what processor is jolla based on?03:59
DocScrutinizer05some errr forgot04:00
DocScrutinizer05no OMAP iirc04:00
DocScrutinizer05sth nasty04:00
ds3so battery life could be a bit lacking04:00
ds3as long as it isn't a Qcom04:00
DocScrutinizer05wasn't processor family one of the very few hard facts they already published on their website?04:01
paviDocScrutinizer05: is it still viable to buy a n9 or should I wait for jolla if I want a "free" phone ?04:01
ds3had not had time to scrub their site... I just saw references in liliputing.com04:01
DocScrutinizer05in my book N9 never been free04:01
wmarone_DocScrutinizer05: don't think so, only thing we know is dual core.04:01
DocScrutinizer05aah, ok04:02
ds3the uSIMM is a deal breaker for the N904:02
paviDocScrutinizer05: by "free" I am not optimistic about complete "free " hardware . Its only openmoko which can deliver it04:02
infobotit has been said that joerg is a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, usually known as DocScrutinizer04:02
ds3I don't mind the hw being a bit closed04:03
ds3if it can match the N900 level, it is good enough as long as it isn't QCOM fram04:03
DocScrutinizer05it's good enough when you're free to update kernels on your own04:04
paviDocScrutinizer05: :) I saw a openmoko device at linuxtag berlin , and it was very highly priced . It was running opensuse :)04:04
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ds3yes... hence I am willing to stomache the GNexus but not the N404:04
DocScrutinizer05probably Nikolaus' gta04 openphoenux04:05
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SpeedEvilwhy not the n4?04:06
DocScrutinizer05it's a great project, if only Nikolaus hadn't decided to recycle the crappy ugly shower-radio case of openmoko gta0204:06
* SpeedEvil hopes for goodness from Jolla.04:07
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, joerg is an ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer04:09
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0504:09
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo joerg04:09
infobotjoerg -- created by jOERG <> at Thu Oct 23 12:00:02 2008 (1680 days); last modified 10s ago  by DocScrutinizer05!~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 51 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 6m 44s ago; it has been locked by jOERG.04:09
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ApicCelebrate Syaday10:20
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ApicI guess I already asked, sorry, but: Does NITDroid support the GPS?10:39
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RaimuTry Nitdroid's own channel.10:46
RaimuI think it's #nitdroid here on Freenode.10:47
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vi__Apic: nope12:29
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: nope, accepted already, still not downloading13:23
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: I have no clue what's your problem then13:25
DocScrutinizer05NB zhat the EULA "Accept" expires after 1 or 2 hours13:25
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DocScrutinizer05what does your "Save as..." file requester provide as destination filename?13:26
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: clicking on the link brings me to the browser error page13:27
jon_ybrowser is reporting some duplicate http headers13:27
DocScrutinizer05you shall not click the link!13:27
DocScrutinizer05you shall rightclick and select "store destination..."13:27
DocScrutinizer05or "download" or whatever your browser's name for it13:28
jon_yit's taking awfully long for the browser to react13:28
DocScrutinizer05sure, since when you leftclick, it will try to download the whole thing as HTML content and render it ;-P13:29
jon_ynope, error saving file13:29
jon_yright click -> save as didn't work13:29
DocScrutinizer05dunno, works here#13:30
DocScrutinizer05without any problems13:30
DocScrutinizer05maybe don't use chrome13:30
jon_ydeleted cookies and all that, still not working :(13:30
jon_yactually, same thing happened in firefox13:31
DocScrutinizer05yeah sure with deleted cookies it does NOT work13:31
jon_ychrome says:13:32
jon_yError 349 (net::ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_DISPOSITION): Multiple distinct Content-Disposition headers received. This is disallowed to protect against HTTP response splitting attacks.13:32
DocScrutinizer05since auth (EULA accept) is stored in cookies13:32
jon_yalready went through the accept again13:32
jon_yafter clearing the cookie13:32
DocScrutinizer05yeah, I seem to recall same problem from ~4 years ago. And it been a browser problem IIRC13:33
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jon_ywell, I'll try another time13:33
DocScrutinizer05googling for that error should help13:33
DocScrutinizer05I can't recall details how to avoid it13:34
DocScrutinizer05I know for sure that's nothing particularly new13:34
DocScrutinizer05I thought it been related to chrome13:34
DocScrutinizer05but I may well be mistaken on that13:35
DocScrutinizer05Fix for Duplicate Headers Error 349 (net::ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_DISPOSITION)13:39
DocScrutinizer05This error was bugging me whole of last week. This error is specific to Google Chrome. Not a bug in chrome itself though, as other browsers ignore duplicate headers, this seems like an issue with Chrome.13:39
jon_yserverside fix?13:40
Macerdoes safari do it?13:41
jon_yretried with firefox, nope13:42
jon_yI don't have safari13:42
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jon_yfirefox says: The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because an error in the data transmission was detected.13:42
jon_ytrying explorator13:43
jon_yIE works :|13:43
Maceri'm asking because maybe it's a wk problem?13:43
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Macerwebkit2 fail? :)13:44
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: please send URL that fails to download. I will try to spot the PHP file on server and fix it13:44
Maceropera is supposed to be using webkit soon :-/13:44
jon_y <-13:44
Macerthey're abandoning presto13:44
jon_yreached after accepting and clicking on the 7z link13:45
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DocScrutinizer05*sigh* again, you shall not click on the link13:45
MacerMaemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.htm <- that's what opera tries to download13:46
jon_yI am getting the same results regardless13:46
jon_yright click says error saving download in firefox13:46
jon_ychrome doesn't even do anything13:46
jon_yanyway, download works on IE1013:46
DocScrutinizer05yeah, I confirm FF fails to download it13:48
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DocScrutinizer05and look, IE works. We faithfully copied what Nokia gave to us ;-P13:48
DocScrutinizer05((I'll try to fix it serverside))13:49
jon_ythis is to prevent robo downloading?13:49
DocScrutinizer05nah, this is "we're too lame to check with anything else than windows"13:49
DocScrutinizer05hmm, please help me out, noob here:  header("Content-Type: application/octet-stream"); // TODO proper mime type14:01
DocScrutinizer05is what I see in
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DocScrutinizer05I fixed it dead14:03
DocScrutinizer05I uncommented header("Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=".@urlencode($filename));14:04
Macerit works now14:07
DocScrutinizer05actually 4 days ago14:07
DocScrutinizer05I didn't change anything ;-P14:07
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DocScrutinizer05-rw-r--r-- 1 repository repository 5988 May 27 20:22 /var/tabletsdev/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php14:07
Maceroh. well. i can get to downloads.php and am downloading the sdk 7z14:08
Maceri need to get the img for my n810 heh14:08
DocScrutinizer05johnsu01: please retry14:08
DocScrutinizer05well, I can as well test it on FF14:09
DocScrutinizer05yep, fixed14:09
DocScrutinizer05sorry for the inconvenience14:09
Macerwhere can i get the maemo4 images?14:09
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: please download now!14:11
DocScrutinizer05with FF14:11
Maceroh i found it14:11
DocScrutinizer05or whatever your preferred browser14:12
DocScrutinizer05Macer: thought as much14:12
Macernokia is still hosting the maemo images?14:12
DocScrutinizer05it's not hard to find14:12
Maceryeah didn't see that part on the bottom right :)14:12
DocScrutinizer05Macer: well, no14:12
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DocScrutinizer05look, an URL is not a good indicator about who's hosting the stuff14:13
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: awesome, it works14:13
DocScrutinizer05Macer: ^^^14:13
DocScrutinizer05guess why! and hush!14:13
jon_ytoo many underscores?14:13
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: read backscroll14:14
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DocScrutinizer05  <------><------>// Akamai sets this, let's not set it twice14:14
DocScrutinizer05  <------><------>//added-comment(again?)jr20130531 header("Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=".@urlencode($filename));14:14
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jon_yoh, akamai problem14:15
DocScrutinizer05might be broken on now14:15
DocScrutinizer05I kicked it 4 days ago to make it work on td.m.o14:15
DocScrutinizer05but please let's not discuss this further14:16
DocScrutinizer05it's a tad... complicated14:17
Macernice. downloaded diablo heh14:18
Macercan i flash it with flasher3.5?14:18
Maceror do i need to use the older flasher?14:18
DocScrutinizer05hosted by Delivered to you by courtesy akamai14:18
DocScrutinizer05and *shhhhhh!*14:18
DocScrutinizer05we'll keep it working as long as it lasts14:19
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MacerMaemo Flasher-3.5 Tool for Fremantle and Diablo, installation package for Debian based Linuxes (x86, 32-bit)14:20
Macernice :) guess 3.5 works for diablo14:20
DocScrutinizer05should work14:21
Macertoo bad my n810 took a dive a while back14:21
Macerthe tracks don't slide like they used to :-/14:21
DocScrutinizer05if it doesn't, I *think* a can dig up the ancient original SSU flasher somewhere still14:21
DocScrutinizer05so oint them, man!14:22
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: somehow tizen is still alive14:23
jon_yI saw some news on a conference14:23
jon_ythe cynic in me tells the there is no n900 replacements there, only android and ios knock offs14:23
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Macerwell. that's odd14:24
Macerthat small plastic cover for the sd port just sort of fell off?14:24
DocScrutinizer05friggin frenode server DoS issue again14:25
Maceri think efnet too heh14:25
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DocScrutinizer05what did my first ping look like?14:27
DocScrutinizer05could any of you echo please?14:28
jon_y~<some symbol>ping14:28
jon_ysome dots14:28
DocScrutinizer05yeah, that <some symbol> looks like "..." here14:28
jon_ymy font must be too small14:28
jon_yright, those 314:28
jaskamy blood pressure goes up a few bar everytime i see the ...-character14:29
DocScrutinizer05nevertheless it vanished with one backspace, and no in history line looks like plain "ping"14:29
infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is
DocScrutinizer05nfc how I managed to get that "..."14:29
jaskasome clients/terminals might turn three consecutive dots into the tridot ellipsis thingy14:30
DocScrutinizer05Macer: 8x0?14:30
jon_yjaska: I think it depends on irc clients14:30
DocScrutinizer05for 8x0 see wiki history of flashing page14:30
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jon_yirssi doesn't do it for me14:30
DocScrutinizer05massive edits for n900-only kinda garbled it for N810 users14:31
DocScrutinizer05I added a link to the relevant historical version, long ago14:31
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Macerheh... i will do it later. i am not feeling very well today14:43
Maceri injured my rib so it may be the norco14:43
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DocScrutinizer05get well soon14:48
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vi__~frank zappa15:17
vi__~rape infobot15:17
* infobot takes infobot behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams15:17
vi__~rape itself15:17
* infobot takes itself behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams15:17
vi__~smite infobot15:18
* infobot wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves infobot from crown to sole.15:18
vi__~gentoosmite infobot15:18
* infobot spends 7 days recompiling infobot, and when it's all done, infobot runs 0.2% faster than previously15:18
* infobot kicks skynets ass!15:19
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vi__infobot couldn't kick an ass in a boot factory.15:19
* infobot kicks vi_'s ass15:22
infobot//kick vi__15:23
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DocScrutinizer05~listkeys zappa15:26
infobotFactoid search of 'zappa' by key (1): zappa.15:26
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues FZ15:26
infobotFactoid search of 'FZ' by value (14 of 44): galaxy pbw ;; ipkg-unbuild ;; jel ;; rfc 1993 ;; rfc1993 ;; weathercode bandundu ;; weathercode boende ;; weathercode faizabad ;; weathercode falcon field ;; weathercode fort reliance ;; weathercode fortalezaor ;; weathercode ilebo ;; weathercode inga ;; weathercode inongo.15:27
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues zappa15:27
infobotFactoid search of 'zappa' by value returned no results.15:27
infobotInformation is not Knowledge \ Knowledge is not Wisdom \ Wisdom is not Truth \ Truth is not Beauty \ Beauty is not Love \ Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. \ Love is not Music \ Music is THE BEST15:27
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, wisdom is
DocScrutinizer05I thought wisdom was the domain of the wis (which is extinct)15:28
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fastlane`is 404 Not Found16:09
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DocScrutinizer05so what?17:04
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tadzik"!!!U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy" -- does that ring a bell?18:09
tadziktrying to install Pali's u-boot18:10
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DocScrutinizer05there's no leading !!!18:39
tadzikwell, there is here18:41
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tadzik'apt-get install' didn't complain :/18:45
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DocScrutinizer05sure, since apt-get doesn't know about 3rd party policy18:58
DocScrutinizer05neither about trust levels18:58
DocScrutinizer05but you can tell HAM to ignore them, if you want to do that18:58
DocScrutinizer05if you wonder - that message means that the package you try to install (or some of its dependencies) are already installed on your system, and since the source they got installed from had a higher trust level than the repo you're trying to install them from right now, HAM refuses to replace the existing version with a less secure one19:02
tadzikah, I see19:03
DocScrutinizer05I might have put it marginally incorrect or incomplete, but basically that's it19:05
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DocScrutinizer05and to find "ignore 3rd party policy" in HAM's menu, you need to set it to ~redpill mode19:46
DocScrutinizer05actually "Ignore the third party packages policy in SSU"19:48
DocScrutinizer05"Ignore packages from wrong domains" sounds related, probably you should uncheck it19:49
DocScrutinizer05some background info: as you might have heard, the pgp key in Nokia repos has expired. This means the repo loses its trust level19:52
DocScrutinizer05not much that CSSU team or techstaff team or package maintainers/developers could do about it.19:52
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freemangordon.msg ns freemangordon20:44
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DocScrutinizer05/ns ?20:51
DocScrutinizer05or /msg nickserv20:51
freemangordonlooks fine20:51
freemangordonalready chacked20:51
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Win7Macanybody mind me joining the meeting later?20:53
sixwheeledbeast1Win7Mac: it's in 7 minutes and it's available for all :)20:54
Win7Macin 1h 7mins20:54
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sixwheeledbeast18:00 UTC20:55
Win7Macah yeah you're right20:56
Win7Macjust hope the agenda is crystal clear20:57
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: still cannot join #maemo-admin21:32
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merlin1991anybody with a little insight on the n_gsm line discipline in here? I get it to activate but when I try to open any gsmttyX devices I fail with level 2 halted (EL2HLT)22:49
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: see /query22:50
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GeneralAntillessixwheeledbeast, I can help with the council page if you need it.23:21
sixwheeledbeastIf you want. it's no problem if not I will do it this weekend, just busy at moment.23:23
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