IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2013-05-03

n900-dkhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6076000:00
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sixwheeledbeastn900-dk: sorry pidgin is not pinging me anymore. Your forgotting the main lib's etc on the device itself.00:02
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sixwheeledbeastif you check thumb changelog, fmg is compiling maemo bits in thumb ISA. hence smaller code.00:03
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: that table is 3 dimensional projection into 2 dimensions, of course it's confusing00:27
DocScrutinizer05it should become 2 tables00:27
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sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: oh good I thought it was suppose to make sense00:31
DocScrutinizer05Woody14619 been extremely oversmart there :-) 3UA9VTp  == ?_User_A_?_Vote_Token_?00:32
DocScrutinizer05I'm not sure if the "?" are random or also make some sense00:33
Woody14619just random.  did you see the "verfication strings" yet? ;)00:33
DocScrutinizer05also caling users "A" and "B" doesn't exactly help, usually you use "Antony" and "Bob"00:35
Woody14619Good idea. :)00:35
Woody14619Editing now, so will include that.. :)00:36
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DocScrutinizer05I suggest X:table_names Y:*user-name* (so for antony and Bob) table will have 2 rows. Then use " or 3 or 4 identical wiki tables that show the evolution during cloning and voting00:39
DocScrutinizer05s/table_/db_table&field_/00:40
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: I suggest X:db_table&field_names Y:*user-name* (so for antony and Bob) table will have 2 rows. Then use " or 3 or 4 identical wiki tables that show the evolution during cloning and voting00:40
Woody14619I was considering such a thing.  But table manupulation in Wiki is nearly non-existant. :P00:40
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sixwheeledbeasthow did infobot manage to add a smily?00:41
DocScrutinizer05yeah, there needs to pop up some table editor for mediawiki00:41
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: not here00:42
sixwheeledbeastpidgin :)00:42
DocScrutinizer05and I honestly wouldn't know what to make a smiley from00:42
DocScrutinizer05db_table&field_00:43
DocScrutinizer05^^^ here?00:43
DocScrutinizer05rather00:43
DocScrutinizer05:db_table&field_00:43
sixwheeledbeastmm.. tables in wikis, fun.00:44
DocScrutinizer05PITA00:44
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DocScrutinizer05we could use an exporter from openoffice to mediawiki00:44
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DocScrutinizer05or HEY can't mediawiki include HTML code?00:45
sixwheeledbeastthere's many different methods too.00:45
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sixwheeledbeastyes with html tag?00:46
DocScrutinizer05thought so00:46
DocScrutinizer05so create tables in openoffice and export as html, then import to mediawiki00:46
sixwheeledbeastbut stops sortable and other features of wiki tables working.00:46
DocScrutinizer05the web editor of mediawiki is an insult00:47
DocScrutinizer05maybe we could "steal" the editor etherpad or google are using?00:49
DocScrutinizer05also browser borne both of them, but real editors00:50
DocScrutinizer05not an embarrassing text-input-box with a tiny bit of "decoration"00:50
sixwheeledbeastdecoration?00:51
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DocScrutinizer05like "B" "I" "U"00:52
DocScrutinizer05even "ultrasmart" function to insert URLs00:53
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DocScrutinizer05the "toolbar" in mediawiki "editor"00:53
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sixwheeledbeastI never use them, just learn the markup.00:54
DocScrutinizer05WYSIWYG is an invention of late 80s of last century00:54
Win7MacOpenSource community should not rely on google or alike, IMHO. Stealing is ok, though... ;-)00:55
xescould someone point me to fix this: http://git.xfce.org/apps/midori/tree/midori/midori-browser.c?id=889dcabc330776342782e1cf4f0ff960623ae7d7#n78300:55
Win7MacWhats wrong with WYSIWYG?00:55
DocScrutinizer05nothing, just missing in mediawiki editor00:55
Win7Macenough for the average Joe00:55
DocScrutinizer05xes: sorry?00:56
xesall uppercase is not a good idea, but also replacing HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_AUTOCAP with HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_FULL00:56
xesdoes not gives the expected result.00:57
sixwheeledbeastI think Doc would like WYSIWYG in wiki. not old style markup language, however I am used to html so wiki language doesn't bother me there all the same.00:57
Win7Macok, I see00:57
DocScrutinizer05for editing tables it's a plain abomnation and a PITA00:58
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DocScrutinizer05tables in mediawiki are as non-intuitive and clumsy as it might get, when it comes to editing them00:59
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sixwheeledbeasthttp://sourceforge.net/projects/csv2other/01:00
sixwheeledbeastgot a csv?01:00
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GI_Jackdoes anyone know where I can get the battery cal scripts, the scripts in the thread 40401:01
gregoaG 3701:02
gregoa*cough*01:02
DocScrutinizer05GI_Jack: try my server maemo.cloud-7.de01:04
DocScrutinizer05gregoa: hmß01:05
DocScrutinizer05?01:05
DocScrutinizer05what's G37?01:05
GI_JackDocScrutinizer05, what dir01:05
DocScrutinizer05maemo/tools or sth like that01:05
DocScrutinizer05I guess01:05
ashleywhat am I not getting here? I registered an account via garage.maemo.org, confirmed it and all and the account seems to work for the Maemo Wiki and all, but I can't login to talk.maemo.org with it and trying to register a new talk.maemo.org forum account takes me to a "You have left a required field blank." page, always...01:06
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh01:06
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DocScrutinizer05tmo accounts are unrelated to garage accounts01:07
sixwheeledbeastashley: w.m.o m.o and t.m.o are all different logins01:07
gregoaDocScrutinizer05: "G 37" is a typo for "/g 37" which is "goto windows 37 in my irssi"01:07
DocScrutinizer05aaaah01:07
sixwheeledbeastta for cleaning up some wiki pages too :)01:08
ashleyso...why doesn't vBulletin like me, then?01:08
DocScrutinizer05dunno01:08
DocScrutinizer05you left some field blank, maybe ;-)01:08
ashleyand you're welcome; I'm a MediaWiki dev and all (and wiki.maemo.org could seriously do with a software upgrade, heh...) ;)01:08
ashleyhttp://talk.maemo.org/register.php -- there's only one field (sic), the checkbox "I have read, and agree to abide by the maemo.org - Talk rules."01:09
ashleyif left unchecked, the resulting page says "You have chosen not to accept the forum rules, so registration cannot continue. Click here to return to the main forums page, or click the 'Back' button on your browser if you now want to agree with the forum rules."01:09
ashleyif checked, the resulting page claims that "You have left a required field blank."01:09
DocScrutinizer05I'm sure you need to provide more than just a checkbox tick to register a new account01:10
DocScrutinizer05for me this URL shows I'm already registered ;-)01:10
ashleyI'd assume that first it shows the rules and if and only if you agree with them, it takes you to the actual registration form where you type in the desired username, password, email, CAPTCHA and whatnot01:11
DocScrutinizer05ashley: I'd be surprised however when vBulletin tmo new user registration suddenly was broken01:11
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sixwheeledbeastno captcha IIRC more like a simple maths question.01:12
DocScrutinizer05ashley: I don't think it works like that01:12
DocScrutinizer05maybe check your browser settings: adblock, JS, load-images, whatnot else01:13
sixwheeledbeasthmm .. ^^ my first thought, I have adblock and no issues here. What browser?01:14
DocScrutinizer05ok, checking now01:14
ashleyI use Internet Explorer 10 (yes, I know...) on Windows 7 (Ultimate); the page's HTML clearly shows that there's nothing else of interest on the registration page besides the rules and the checkbox01:15
ashley(and I block only some adservers, like Google's and doubleclick.net and whatnot, so I doubt that could be causing it either)01:15
DocScrutinizer05ashley: you're right, you have to checkmark 2I agree" first, then it takes you to a page with all the text input boxes01:15
DocScrutinizer05there R.OPENX wants to change an existing cookie, I guess that's from captcha01:16
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DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/03/plasma-desktoptR3743.png is first page01:19
ashleyaye, indeed it is01:20
Woody14619Okey.  Is that table better Docscrutinizer05? :)01:20
sixwheeledbeastNoScript on Firefox causes the issue you mention. Had to disable noscript and delete cookies to continue.01:21
DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/03/plasma-desktoptR3743.png is next page01:22
DocScrutinizer05oops01:22
DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/03/plasma-desktopZL3743.png01:23
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sixwheeledbeasttable is: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_team/How_Elections_Work#Cloning_Voting_Tokens01:23
Woody14619Also, sixwheeledbeast, since you noted the table wasn't obvious. :)01:23
ashleyyep, but I had no luck in getting to that page (and my issue can hardly be a NoScript one since I use Internet Explorer and the last I checked NoScript wasn't available for IE ;) and FOSS-y projects probably do _not_ depend on plusone.google.com or such, so the fact that I block some ad servers browser-side can't be causing this one either)01:26
DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: lower right:01:27
DocScrutinizer05"Bob", "Chad" ⇒ OMGuVotedn2electsA01:27
DocScrutinizer05"Bob","Mark" ⇒ OMGuVotedBE2g0prty01:27
DocScrutinizer05if these names are candidates, then use different names01:27
Woody14619They would be... Why not have Bob be electable too? :)01:28
Woody14619Bob gets to vote! :)01:28
DocScrutinizer05I gather they are candidates, since in first "record" there's "Yes" for an answer to a referendum01:28
DocScrutinizer05If it wouldn't look too identical, I'd use "Rob" ;-)01:29
DocScrutinizer05but "Sally","Tim" is probably fine01:29
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DocScrutinizer05maybe even a italic prefix: "referendum1_" resp "council-election34_"01:32
sixwheeledbeastashley: I have no way of testing IE10 to help you.01:32
ashley:-/01:35
sixwheeledbeastnight all, busy day tomorrow.01:39
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Win7MacDoc, use Adam & Eve... sounds easier01:59
DocScrutinizer05http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob02:00
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Woody14619I hear you can get anything you want and Alice's resturaunt.02:01
DocScrutinizer05>>Craig, the password cracker (usually encountered in situations with stored hashed/salted passwords).<<02:02
DocScrutinizer05;-P02:02
Woody14619o.O02:02
Woody14619I prefer my passwords buttered, not salted. :)02:05
* Woody14619 poke kerio. You're slow! ^^^02:05
Win7Macguys...02:05
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DocScrutinizer05anyway you see it's not all that tricial to pick good placeholder names that don't already imply something (wrong)02:07
DocScrutinizer05trivial*02:07
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DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: I still think the answers need a hint in their naming to show that the database knows for *which* *election* they were meant.02:09
Woody14619Hmm...02:10
DocScrutinizer05in RL they are pointers to a table which holds all valid answers/votes for a election anyway02:10
Woody14619While it does have that in real life, It's not really relevant to the  chart, but.. yeah...02:10
Woody14619how about....02:11
DocScrutinizer05another idea I think would look nice: strike-through the tokens when they get used up, instead  of instantly deleting them from table02:12
DocScrutinizer05only remove them for next step diagram of table02:13
DocScrutinizer05(I have NFC how to markup <strike> )02:13
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DocScrutinizer05yes, that also looks good now02:14
Woody14619Like that... :)02:15
DocScrutinizer05I'm not happy with the names of the candidates, in votes. The are not obviously grouped into a alphabetical range02:15
DocScrutinizer05K, L, M, N  or R,S,T,U02:16
DocScrutinizer05C is electorate still02:16
Woody14619Well, it may be they chose based on who they liked better. :)02:17
DocScrutinizer05like in "Chad"02:17
DocScrutinizer05and maybe one of them has a kyrilic name. Nah, really, when using symbolic aka placeholder names, certain conventions should be followed02:18
DocScrutinizer05that's about common sense resp prior knowledge and context02:19
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DocScrutinizer05you can transport a limited amount of meaning in naming only. If you try to pack too much into naming, it loses _all_ meaning02:20
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DocScrutinizer05whn a IT literate user sees "Chad" there then she doesn't think "aah, maybe electorate can also be candidates" but rather "hmm, this record in table can have candidates or electorate in that field. But based on what?"02:22
* Woody14619 chose Zarrah to indicate last entry. :)02:22
DocScrutinizer05that's also debatable02:22
Woody14619A, B, C, ... Z02:23
DocScrutinizer05this allocates complete alphabetic range to electorate, not leaving any ranges like R,S,T,... for any other group02:24
DocScrutinizer05while in RL it may be true that all candidates are also members of electorate, here it's not relevant02:24
Woody14619Well, right... They're voting tokens.  They represent potential voters.  The chart isn't just hanging out in space... There's text near it... describing some of that. :)  And really, this is more about the cloning process.02:25
DocScrutinizer05I'd rather use "...\n(6000 more of electorate)" than "Zarrah"02:26
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Woody14619Sigh.. I think it's fine... But hey, it's a wiki! ;)02:26
Woody14619Anyway... I think it's pretty much ready for exposure to TMO. :P02:26
Woody14619I'm sure I'll get lots of comments from people misinterpreting all of it, but... That's to be expected.  But if even a few people understand it better, then it's an improvement.02:27
Woody14619Happy to see a few people working on it though. :)02:30
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* Win7Mac : good night all02:32
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Woody14619K, ride is here.. away for dinner, prob for night.02:40
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: I fell in love with python again: http://privatepaste.com/static/clients/privatepaste.py06:42
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: mmmh09:12
keriodon't quite like it09:12
DocScrutinizer05mmmh?09:12
kerioyou can't import it without massive side effects09:12
kerioso you can't use it to also do programmatic pastebinning09:12
DocScrutinizer05I don't want to import a cmdline tool09:13
kerioit should be possible!09:13
kerioi'll mail the privatepaste guys if i remember to do so after i've woken up09:14
DocScrutinizer05got visions? ;-P09:16
keriogot a bed and a n90009:17
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DocScrutinizer05an politician here once said "when somebody has visions, he should consult a neurologist"09:18
keriothe morning ritual is stand up, grab the n900, stop the alarm, go back in bed, check reddit, check irc, wake up09:18
kerioalthough, to be fair, the waking up usually happens halfway through the checks09:19
DocScrutinizer05anyway, how do you like the new wiki page about elections?09:19
DocScrutinizer05a pity all this awesome stuff is getting done only now when we see a silent n900-user fade away every day09:20
keriowhy is craig a password cracker?09:22
kerioeve is evil, makes sense09:22
kerioand alice and bob are A and B09:22
DocScrutinizer05no idea09:22
DocScrutinizer05craig like crack?09:22
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keriohm, i pronounce them very differently09:23
DocScrutinizer05why is john john?09:26
DocScrutinizer05why not jim, or even tiberius?09:27
keriojohn the ripper, like jack the ripper :)09:28
keriohm, key repeat doesn't work anymore09:28
kerioi wonder why09:28
ShadowJKheh, guess who joined jolla09:28
keriowho?09:28
ShadowJKari jaaksi :P09:28
fizzieI think Eve is usually an eavesdropper, not just generically evil. (Compared to Mallory, the malicious attacker.)09:29
keriofizzie: good point09:29
GeneralAntillesShadowJK, well, goodbye Jolla.09:29
kerioeve sniffs, mallory does MITMs09:29
ShadowJKlol09:29
DocScrutinizer05HAH09:31
GeneralAntillesJaaksi seems to have the touch of death.09:32
DocScrutinizer05lemme guess... published on twitter?09:32
GeneralAntillesShadowJK, got a link for that so I can aggregate it to MWKN?09:33
ShadowJKGeneralAntilles; http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/jolla+gets+new+ceo+and+board/a218274809:33
cehtehjolla needs a phone ... grr09:35
ShadowJKIn the finish version, the reported claimed to have seen and used the phone09:35
ShadowJKBut isn't even allowed to describe it :)09:36
cehtehi got my wife a note2 and android pisses me, would be nice if jolla could make a stunt and release sailfish images for existing phones. I think i would even pay for the os alone if its reasonable priced09:37
GeneralAntillesWait, what, Jaaksi was at McAfee???09:37
ShadowJKcehteh; seems like half the work is making it work nicely on specific hw09:38
cehtehi know09:38
GeneralAntillescehteh, BB10 is not an unreasonable stop-gap option.09:38
DocScrutinizer05~wtf CIO09:38
infobotGee...  I don't know what CIO means...09:38
DocScrutinizer05~uselss09:39
GeneralAntillesChief Information Officer09:39
DocScrutinizer05~useless09:39
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(09:39
cehtehbut from a consumer view it would be just nice to have a choice in OS09:39
DocScrutinizer05~CIO09:39
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, just do a web search like a normal person. :P09:39
DocScrutinizer05~CIO is Chief Information Officer09:39
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0509:39
DocScrutinizer05meh09:39
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DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: maybe add a function to my browser so the google results pop up as tooltip whenever I hover over a word longer than 1s ? ;-P09:41
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, pretty sure there are plugins for that.09:41
DocScrutinizer05wait, there's been that before09:41
GeneralAntillesI know a Vietnamese friend has something where she can right-click for a definition in Firefox.09:42
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DocScrutinizer05>>China’s official smart phone platform<< WTF, do they also have an official toilet paper color, and an official fruit tea flavor?09:46
ShadowJKsure09:46
DocScrutinizer05I know why I dislike China09:46
ShadowJKlead, and lead09:46
DocScrutinizer05LOL09:46
GeneralAntillesWell, they are a communist country.09:47
DocScrutinizer05lead, like 82?09:47
ShadowJKThe official cpu is mips09:47
cehtehnot exactly, only a mips clone to be true :o)09:48
ShadowJKthey bought license now09:49
DocScrutinizer05wtf means "official" here?09:49
cehtehwow09:49
cehtehhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson09:49
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; you get to appear on propaganda posters09:50
DocScrutinizer05ME?09:52
DocScrutinizer05o.O09:52
cehtehdidnt rms use one of this loongson laptops?09:52
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; if you were declared official helpdesk person09:53
cehtehhttp://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/  .. yeah remmebered right :)09:53
DocScrutinizer05oooh, I pray for not it09:54
DocScrutinizer05well, RMS.... *cough*09:54
cehteh:>09:55
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DocScrutinizer05http://greg.kh.usesthis.com/ is kinda more relevant and also more inspiring, at least to me10:05
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cehtehwell i wont use a macbook :P10:06
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cryptonitehey10:11
cryptonitei have a process called image-viewer which has occupied 370mb of vram10:13
cryptonitei suppose that is the photo app,right?10:14
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cryptoniteany ideas?10:16
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, mine uses 37MB11:45
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DocScrutinizer05and it's probably more likely the gallery11:50
DocScrutinizer05photo app sounds like camera11:50
DocScrutinizer05hmm, Uptime: 42 days, 11:05:4911:51
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Macercamera app keeps randomly crashing on me :-/12:04
DocScrutinizer05err, yeah, somewhat known12:04
DocScrutinizer05though I never seen it with stock camera, despite experts explain to me it's the DSP driver or whatever and that stays unchanged no matter which camera-app you're using. My only cam-app crashes been with cssu cam12:06
Maceryah12:06
Maceri am running cssu... the stock "camera" app keeps randomly crashing12:06
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freemangordonMacer: any chance to get a coredump?12:07
Macerusually it is when i do odd things.. like delete a pic during a preview12:07
Macerfreemangordon: no. i didnt really look into it much yet. havent had time12:07
Maceri was just hoping it was a known issue with a known solution12:07
Macermicrob does the same12:07
Macerusually it is when typing in an address when it tries to pull the history or suggestion12:08
freemangordonMacer: well, all it takes is to install sp-rich-core12:08
Macersp-rich-core?12:08
freemangordonhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/sp-rich-core12:09
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Maceroh12:10
Macerinteresting12:10
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Maceri will enable devel and install it12:10
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freemangordonMacer: it is not -n -devel12:11
freemangordon*in12:11
Maceroh12:11
Macerwhere is it?12:11
Maceri dont see the pkg12:11
DocScrutinizer05tools?12:11
freemangordonhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5#Installation12:11
freemangordondeb http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools free non-free12:12
Maceroh12:12
Macerok12:12
DocScrutinizer05lol, my .install12:12
DocScrutinizer05already forgot about it12:12
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freemangordonMacer: iirc one should create the directory for coredump files by hand. not sure on that one though12:14
DocScrutinizer05>>If you prefer to edit configuration files yourself instead of using the Application manager, add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list<< WUT?12:14
freemangordonNFC12:15
freemangordonthough this will work12:15
DocScrutinizer05maybe in diabloß12:15
Macerheh12:15
freemangordonno, this works in maemo too, if you use apt-get ofc12:15
Maceri just did it in app manager12:15
DocScrutinizer05my /etc/apt/sources.list is 0 bytes, and i thought that's for a reason12:15
DocScrutinizer05Macer: god boy12:16
DocScrutinizer05good even12:16
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freemangordonif you create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (foo.list) it will even appear in HAM ;)12:16
Macerhah12:16
freemangordonthe repos from foo.list that is12:16
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: yep, that's what I thought12:17
Macerok... so should i just install the sp-rich-* stuff?12:17
Macerlet me see :)12:17
freemangordonMacer: yep, just install sp-rich-core. and maybe syslog12:17
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if crash-reporter is somehow related to nitro12:18
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: nitro?12:19
Macersysklogd?12:19
DocScrutinizer05an email alias et al, in maemo12:19
freemangordonwas that the automated process/site to upload those coredumps?12:19
Maceremail alias?12:19
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: do we have that one?12:20
DocScrutinizer05http://www.google.de/search?q=site%3Amaemo.org+nitro12:20
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Macerwhy does running klogd seem12:20
Macerlike something that will murder my battery? :)12:20
freemangordonMacer: it won't12:21
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Macerok so12:21
Macerhow do i use it?12:21
freemangordonI am running my device with syslog enabled since the begining of time12:21
freemangordon:D12:21
freemangordoncat /var/log/syslog12:21
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89741 answers my question12:21
Macernot syslog12:22
Macersp-rich12:22
Macerto find out what is killing the camera12:22
* DocScrutinizer05 lols at anybody thinking nitro was used for anything during last 2 or 3 years12:22
freemangordonMacer: you don;t need to run anything12:22
DocScrutinizer05or was it?? :-o12:22
Macerok.. so lets see....12:22
freemangordonMacer: it will automagically create a coredump file on a process crash12:22
Macerwhere does it put it?12:23
freemangordonMacer: read the wiki article :P12:23
DocScrutinizer05yeah, and crash-reporter uploads that coredump plus associated cruft to nitro12:24
DocScrutinizer05aiui12:24
freemangordonMacer: so all you need to do after you got a crash is to upload camera-ui.xxxxxx richcore file and ping me ;)12:24
DocScrutinizer05where it bitrots12:24
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: any chance to bring this up?12:24
freemangordon(once there is enough free disk space)12:25
freemangordonMacer: BTW it is recommended to reboot after installing syslog12:26
Maceroh12:26
DocScrutinizer05hmm, why not12:26
Maceri will reboot later12:26
DocScrutinizer05but first somebody needs to explain what for it's used anyway12:26
DocScrutinizer05I never heard of nitro until maybe 6 weeks ago12:27
freemangordonMacer: as not everyone understands there is syslog installed :D12:27
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: for crash-reporting ;)12:27
Macerheh12:27
DocScrutinizer05TO WHOM?12:27
freemangordonCSSU?12:27
Macerthe hildon foundation12:27
freemangordonhehe12:27
* Macer hides12:27
Maceroh12:28
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: i though one of the things CSSU should take care of is the bugs in the system applications.12:28
Macerok... it makes its own dirs12:28
Macerand dumps it there12:28
freemangordonnice12:28
freemangordondo you succeed to make it crash?12:29
Macernow i just need something to crash12:29
Macerno... i tried12:29
freemangordonooh12:29
Macerit is quite random12:29
freemangordonok. no hurry12:29
Macerthe cam usually does it when i am taking a pic of something important12:30
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: draft a suggestion, council and techstaff will help12:30
Maceror trying to get real video of a UFO12:30
Macerit will crash as Flanork zips away into spalce12:30
Macerspace12:30
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: we're NOT going to investigate what's nitro and how it been supposed to work and how to put it back to purpose, possibly new purpose12:30
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ok. will discuss with the other CSSU guys firts. I guess this should come from merlin199112:30
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: well, iiuc it is just a file server12:30
Macermaybe nitro is selling the dump info to google12:31
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: see http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/crash-reporter12:31
DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/52ec363f0212:31
Macerwow12:31
Macerfreemangordon: does it .... work?12:32
freemangordonMacer: crash-reporter? NFC, never tried it :D12:32
DocScrutinizer05*burrp*12:32
freemangordonbut it is supposed to12:32
Maceri mean.. where does it upload and is it still working?12:32
Macerhaha12:32
MacerDocScrutinizer05 is going to realize where all that missing maemo.org space has gone12:33
DocScrutinizer05what missing space?12:33
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Maceri'm joking12:33
freemangordonin coredumps? sounds possible :D12:33
Maceryeah12:33
DocScrutinizer05anyway nitro seems rather unrelated to maemo512:33
Macer2TB in cam coredumps12:33
Macerheh12:33
freemangordonmaybe I should look into that crash-reporter some day12:34
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DocScrutinizer05maybe we actually could start to provide a location wehere everybody is free to upload tens or hundreds of MB, without any auth12:35
DocScrutinizer05so devels have a place where they can look... for latest pr0n12:36
DocScrutinizer05let's call that nitro then, and pretend everything in there is a coredump12:36
freemangordonyep, sounds like a good idea. So you'll become a pr0nmaster :P12:36
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DocScrutinizer05"watch freemangordon dumping his core really deep into.... *cough*" errr12:38
freemangordonheh :D12:38
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freemangordonWTF?!? SB VM crashed :(12:39
freemangordonshit12:40
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DocScrutinizer05huh?12:44
DocScrutinizer05yours or maemo's?12:45
freemangordonmine12:45
DocScrutinizer05o.O12:45
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DocScrutinizer05/dev/xvdc       768G  724G   37G  96% /var/repository12:46
DocScrutinizer05/dev/xvdd        65G   32G   30G  52% /var/tabletsdev12:46
DocScrutinizer05joerg@stage:~$12:46
DocScrutinizer05hmmm, maybe somebody should spread the "news": http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/12:49
DocScrutinizer05though, LOL, I doubt the auth will work12:50
DocScrutinizer05where's my IMEI?12:50
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: to my surprise it works ;)12:52
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DocScrutinizer05indeed12:53
freemangordonit's crawling, but works12:53
DocScrutinizer05~tabletsdev12:53
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys tabletsdev12:53
infobotFactoid search of 'tabletsdev' by key returned no results.12:53
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues tabletsdev12:53
infobotFactoid search of 'tabletsdev' by value returned no results.12:53
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DocScrutinizer05~tabletsdev is http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/12:53
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay12:53
freemangordonhmm, "An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.cc8ef50.1367574810.2778efa9"12:54
DocScrutinizer05hmm?12:54
DocScrutinizer05where?12:54
freemangordonthat's when I click on "Command line flasher binaries are available here."12:54
DocScrutinizer05that's *.nokia.com12:54
freemangordonooh, yes :)12:55
freemangordonI am stupid, am I12:55
DocScrutinizer05but yeah, obviously the links in html src never got adjusted12:55
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freemangordonwell, I guess a simple sed will fix that12:56
DocScrutinizer05prolly12:56
DocScrutinizer05but this also shows what tabletsdev.maemo.org originally been12:56
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Sc0rpiusTMO down :/17:59
kerioDocScrutinizer05: we have our own tablets-dev mirror now? :D18:06
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zammyhey people, where can I find mupen64plus configuration for nokia n900 still alive links I mean22:02
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PaliI updated one bme replacement deb package libbmeipc0 with new code. library now pass my bmeclient testing application23:51
Palikerio, see ^23:51
Pali(I do not know who testing/using my bme replacement packages...)23:51
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