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| Drathir | is any alternative to run java midlet on n900 except microemulator? | 00:30 |
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| Sc0rpius | I don't think there's another J2ME implementation | 00:32 |
| Sc0rpius | than MicroEmulator | 00:32 |
| bef0rd | what about that other project? | 00:33 |
| bef0rd | by david something | 00:33 |
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| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81969 | 00:33 |
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| Woody14619 | Drathir, there is also icedtea... Thats Java though, not J2ME. Depending what you're looking for, that may help? | 00:51 |
| Woody14619 | I think the package is icedtea6? | 00:51 |
| Woody14619 | I use it to run my java accounting program on my N900. | 00:51 |
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| kerio | i wonder how badly a minecraft server would run, on a n900 | 00:56 |
| Drathir | Woody14619: thanks i check also that... i looking something for .jar programs... interesting that on 6230 thats programs also works - little old phone:p | 00:57 |
| Drathir | kerio: not possible i think minecraft need if good remembr min 2gb of ram 3 recconmend:/ | 00:58 |
| Woody14619 | That's J2ME. I have a 6230i before the N900 as well. :) J2ME is a long-lost format these days. | 00:58 |
| bef0rd | .jar doesn't says much, if its j2me you need microemulator or phoneme, if its j2se icedtea | 00:58 |
| Woody14619 | kerio, someone already did it as I recall, but it was quite slow. | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | Woody14619: you were faster :). yep, this is j2me | 00:58 |
| Woody14619 | bef0rd, IF the 6230 ran it, it was J2ME. ;) | 00:59 |
| Drathir | bef0rd: thanks this app also check... | 00:59 |
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| freemangordon | bef0rd: phoneme if just fine, I was using opera with it, it is slightly slower than native | 00:59 |
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| freemangordon | s/if/is/ | 01:00 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: bef0rd: phoneme is just fine, I was using opera with it, it is slightly slower than native | 01:00 |
| Drathir | microemulator works but keybind works not in all places... | 01:00 |
| bef0rd | yea, it's a nice project, it's good that davyp spent some time on porting it to the n9/n900 | 01:00 |
| Drathir | and yes that proppably j2me... | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | not probably, for sure | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | ooh, 6230, I got that one too :) | 01:01 |
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| Drathir | ok good to know | 01:01 |
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| freemangordon | the wone with rotating screaan, ain't? | 01:01 |
| freemangordon | *one | 01:01 |
| freemangordon | shit :( | 01:01 |
| Woody14619 | Well, you could.. it was 128x128. One of the candybar phones. | 01:01 |
| freemangordon | hmm, maybe it was 6260 | 01:02 |
| Drathir | lol i have 6230i better screen res in use now too :p second number on it... | 01:02 |
| Woody14619 | But it didn't move... :) Short of you twisting it. ;) | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | yep, 6260 | 01:02 |
| Drathir | thats a rock phone... | 01:02 |
| Woody14619 | Yup. Mine finally gave up after 7 years... stopped charging it's battery. But you could swap out w/ external charger. :) | 01:03 |
| freemangordon | yeah, 6260, http://cellphones.about.com/library/bl-pi-nokia_6260.htm | 01:03 |
| Woody14619 | Used the same battery as the OpenMoko a well. | 01:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | kerio Pali: Reports are the colors are fixed but backupmenu still freezes at chrooting. | 01:03 |
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| Woody14619 | So, mine still works.. I use it when I travel mainly... Runs 7+ days on a charge usually... Take a spare battery & a charger... done. :) | 01:04 |
| Drathir | Woody14619: try to alcohol clean charger pins... | 01:05 |
| Woody14619 | Did... no luck... The adapters still talk to it, and it know's it's getting power. It just doesn't charge. | 01:06 |
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| Woody14619 | Says charging, but never does, and dies... But batteries (and their pins, both sides) are all fine.. so. Something dead inside. And really, it gave me 7 years (plus some). More than expected for a phone. | 01:07 |
| Pali | can somebody debug that backupmenu? | 01:08 |
| Pali | *what* freezes? | 01:08 |
| Pali | text2screen crashing? | 01:08 |
| Pali | or what? | 01:08 |
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| Drathir | Woody14619: yes mine works with bombus gprs connection little more than 12h ...connection on all the time... | 01:08 |
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| Drathir | Woody14619: charger broken or battery if say that charging... | 01:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Pali: All I know is installing initrd-progs from devel causes the device to hang on loading backupmenu. | 01:10 |
| Drathir | my 3210 work only old chargers dont like more of new chargers... | 01:11 |
| Drathir | Woody14619: for old nokias 7 years is like child :p | 01:12 |
| Drathir | new nokia phones i think dont life 7years in one peace :/ | 01:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I guess you can ask Raimu for help(debugging). Or Reinob | 01:13 |
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| FIQ | hmm, I wonder something | 02:06 |
| FIQ | when I try to play stuff with mplayer, it works fine, but I always get this: "[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory" | 02:06 |
| FIQ | why? | 02:06 |
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| eccerr0r | /dev/dsp is for traditional OSS system, thought the N900 uses pulseaudio/alsa | 02:24 |
| nox- | it does, the message is harmless | 02:27 |
| eccerr0r | so it was probably just checking all the devices one by one and printing the warning out just because it felt like it? | 02:27 |
| nox- | pretty much | 02:27 |
| eccerr0r | lame | 02:27 |
| eccerr0r | heh | 02:28 |
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| nox- | whoever ported it probably didnt change the default audio device to pa... | 02:28 |
| eccerr0r | and I wonder what I can do with a Nokia 5230 that also has a bad charging circuit, phone works fine otherwise... | 02:34 |
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| nox- | second battery + external charger? | 02:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeled (not here): please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations | 13:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you need any template or example: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_September_2012/Candidate_declarations | 13:02 |
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| kerio | spam, much? | 13:15 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i don't know why people should vote for me D: | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio, are you willing to help maemo to continue exist? | 13:23 |
| kerio | most definetely | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | are you interested in HiFo getting to pace and manage your donations? | 13:23 |
| kerio | yeah | 13:24 |
| jacekowski | hifo should be merged with CoCo | 13:24 |
| kerio | coco? | 13:24 |
| jacekowski | community council | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you think you have an open ear for what "the community" at large is thinking, where problems exist or get discussed, and how to help solve them? | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MCC is the term | 13:25 |
| kerio | well, i don't go much on tmo... :P | 13:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: me neither | 13:25 |
| jacekowski | MCC in here means motor control center | 13:25 |
| kerio | where's "here"? | 13:25 |
| jacekowski | at work | 13:25 |
| kerio | what kind of work? | 13:25 |
| Pali | jacekowski, did you looked at non working package promotion? | 13:25 |
| jacekowski | Pali: it's in Works For Me state | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hope for community directly pinging me when sth important is happening that community procy MCC should take care of or at least take notice of | 13:26 |
| Pali | jacekowski: not working, see: http://maemo.org/packages/view/usbmode/ | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: CoCo here is the name of a silly gimp in kids TV | 13:27 |
| Pali | usbmode 1.0-4 Package promoted | 13:27 |
| Pali | but nothing in extras-testing | 13:27 |
| jacekowski | hmmm | 13:27 |
| jacekowski | i'll look at that again | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: thus I prefer motor control center | 13:27 |
| Pali | jacekowski, and another problem: all kernel-power packages v52 missing at package interface | 13:28 |
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| Guest52405 | salve | 13:28 |
| Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-flasher/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-modules/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-bootimg/ | 13:28 |
| Guest52405 | !list | 13:28 |
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| jacekowski | rotfl | 13:28 |
| kerio | ._. | 13:29 |
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| Pali | jacekowski, can you add CSSU repositories to package interface? http://maemo.org/packages/repository/ | 13:47 |
| jacekowski | not at the moment | 13:50 |
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| n900-dk | Does a RSA SecurID app exist for maemo? | 17:37 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: any clue why VFP emulation is enabled in the kernel? | 18:18 |
| Pali | no, I think I never touched it | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | hmm, Iguess we should disable that | 18:19 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: CONFIG_VFP=y is he offending flag | 18:20 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, wait, that flags description is unclear to me | 18:22 |
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| Skry | why would you want to disable that? | 18:25 |
| kerio | add *all* the flags _ò/ | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | Skry: I was thinking that one is just adding softfloat support to the kernel, now I am not sure | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | Skry: but it looks to me like this is just an undefined instructions handler | 18:27 |
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| Skry | I think the description is quite clear, "This is needed if your hardware includes a VFP unit" :) | 18:28 |
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| freemangordon | Skry: yep, I saw that, but I looked into the code too ;) | 18:29 |
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| freemangordon | Skry: actually we have VFPv3 not VFP :P | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | and there is a flag for that, CONFIG_VFPv3, along with CONFIG_NEON | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | oh, depends on: ( CONFIG_VFP ) && ( CONFIG_CPU_V7 ) | 18:32 |
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| Skry | yup | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | I still see no reason why emulation code is included though | 18:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1338840#post1338840 | 18:50 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 HEADDESKS | 18:50 | |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ask him to donate 500 euro and we'll tell him :D | 18:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | go ahead ;-P | 18:52 |
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| freemangordon | naah, I don;t want to post OT shit on that thread | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | PM? | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | you? | 18:53 |
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| discopig | hello | 19:25 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, shouldn't you update the top post to say "ok, our infra now is hosted for free by the awesome IPHH dudes"? | 19:35 |
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| kerio | hm, i wonder why yappari isn't in the repos | 19:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: eh? top post? | 20:07 |
| kerio | on that thread | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | oooh | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm about to try and get that done on a way more global scale | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but admittedly completely missed out on tmo | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: could you add an eternal praise to IPHH to show up on every tmo webpage? | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | next to 'powered by vBulletin' or sth | 20:10 |
| kerio | "powered by IPHH" | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sth like "thanks to <a href=iphh.de>the incredible guys at IPHH</a>for all their support" | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: I heard you're CO of HiFo, could you please take care about similar mentioning of IPHH on HiFo support/credit page? | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | btw I want to discuss sth with community: | 20:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer51 put council hat on | 20:19 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, I'll look at it. | 20:20 |
| * kerio puts silly hat on | 20:20 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | a while ago HiFo BoD discussed to move their page to maemo.org infra and let it 'host' by techstaff basically | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I feel like that shouldn't get done, it gives council and techstaff too much power over HiFo | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | what's your (all of you) take on that? | 20:21 |
| Woody14619 | My concern is more "all eggs in one basket". IPHH has some issue and all goes dark. | 20:21 |
| Woody14619 | Like having at least one site somewhere else, so if something goes south, we can indicate what's going on there. | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | that too, woody | 20:22 |
| Woody14619 | And/or quick host a static "Crap broke, we're working on it" page. :) | 20:22 |
| kerio | "it gives council and techstaff too much power over HiFo" | 20:23 |
| kerio | fuck yeah, i approve | 20:23 |
| Woody14619 | We should, in fact, setup just such a multi-home/vhost page on each site, so if someone hits it with the other's name, it auto-replies with said static pages. Then in emegency all we need to do is repoint DNS till things are fixed. Just saying. :) | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I mean, we seen HiFo almost got derailed, council isn't immune against similar problems | 20:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Woody14619: simple to do, just we need constrol over DNS server for that ;-P | 20:25 |
| Woody14619 | Right... Just saying, doing the prep of adding a vhost now to answer to something we should never be called as, not a bad idea. ;) | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | while TimS probably has over hifo.org, we're in a pinch with maemo.org | 20:26 |
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| kerio | was the domain transfer ever completed, btw? | 20:28 |
| Woody14619 | well.. once we take that.. yes.. right now... :P | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I might do that lttle fancy after 8 beer tonight ;-D | 20:28 |
| Woody14619 | kerio: not quite yet. | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | eh? | 20:28 |
| kerio | Woody14619: anyway, we should probably use a CDN, for all sorts of static content | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | meh! | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | we have no static content | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and CDN requires transfer of SOA to them aiui | 20:29 |
| kerio | no it doesn't | 20:30 |
| kerio | not all CDNs, at least | 20:30 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: dude, the almost totality of repository. is static content | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, we on't need cdn | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | repo is static til next update of whatever pkg | 20:32 |
| kerio | which is perfect for a cdn! :D | 20:32 |
| kerio | we don't need a CDN until the next friendly ddos hits | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no way we increase our techstaff's headache by going to host those 30Mbit via CDN | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ddos hits on www | 20:33 |
| kerio | i thought that the big ddos during the migration was all the n900s hitting repository for the Packages files | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | *locally* via cron + lynx ;-P | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no | 20:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | it was all the nokia 'cdn' servers | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Hahaha | 20:35 |
| kerio | still counts! | 20:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | akamai serverfarm tryng to sync repo to stage | 20:35 |
| Win7Mac | Ki guys! | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | THAT been what killed us | 20:36 |
| Win7Mac | *Hi | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hi | 20:37 |
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| Win7Mac | What about the banner for Referendum & Elections? - qwazix already has one ready to use: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189430&postcount=138 (from last elect.) | 20:44 |
| Win7Mac | If that's still supposed to be placed, it should be done now, I me thinks | 20:45 |
| Win7Mac | I might be able to help if you want changes to it | 20:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | we need to figure how to place banners anywhere | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the guys who did this before are no longer available | 20:48 |
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| Win7Mac | still... :-( | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | btw we already placed a few fat notices (according to our knowledge) on http://maemo.org | 20:50 |
| Win7Mac | pm the ex-banner-maintainer? ;-) | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | still....? | 20:50 |
| Win7Mac | still need to figure how to place a banner | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | X-Fade: PM!! | 20:51 |
| Win7Mac | Oh, I have no clue... | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~seen X-Fade | 20:52 |
| infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (6h 20m 6s) #harmattan (6h 20m 6s) #meego (6h 20m 6s) #maemo-ssu (6h 20m 6s), last said: 'ZogG_laptop: ?'. | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ugh | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, last join I guess | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | check chanlog for last time he answered, must've been early 2012 | 20:53 |
| Win7Mac | Last Activity: 11-27-2012 and no contact-info on tmo-profile... | 20:54 |
| Win7Mac | somebodey must have an email of him? | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure, but that doesn't help either | 20:55 |
| Win7Mac | he left for no godd? | 20:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | Get one of the Jolla guys to go stab him. | 20:55 |
| Win7Mac | Anyway, just proposals | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | he won't care | 20:55 |
| Win7Mac | OK | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | he didn't care about autobuilder for 4 months | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | despite several mails and pings | 20:56 |
| Win7Mac | OK, then lets forget about X-fade. | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | when I say 'guys are not available' I mean we already tried that | 20:57 |
| Win7Mac | Probably you could simply replace the CSSU-banner for the time of elections? | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure, as soon as we figure how to do that | 20:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | we're at it! | 20:58 |
| Win7Mac | Find the place where this is embedded: http://talk.maemo.org/maemo/resources/cssu.png | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's kinda place 2 of our todo list | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | we're no noobs | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | (except me maybe ;D) | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | this is midgard | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | midgard ONE | 21:00 |
| Win7Mac | First things first! | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm? | 21:01 |
| Win7Mac | ~midgard | 21:01 |
| infobot | A PHP Application Server Suite - Web building with Web-based tools. URL: http://www.midgard-project.org/ | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm bickering about midgard and how to edit frontpage since ~24h now, ask warfare freemangordon thedead1440 jacekowski | 21:02 |
| Win7Mac | midgard atready updated? | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | eh? | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you think updating midgard is a simple thing to do? it will most likely break everything on garage and www and repo | 21:04 |
| Win7Mac | no | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if midgard one could easily get updated to midgard two, then probably Nemein (inventor of midgard?) had done it years ago | 21:05 |
| kerio | sudo apt-get upgrade midgard | 21:06 |
| Win7Mac | rofl | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | an I doubt editing pages and adding/swapping banners is *any* simpler under midgard2 | 21:07 |
| Win7Mac | Well, from I got, it should be done anyway, because support for V1 ends soon | 21:08 |
| Win7Mac | Will Nemein be helpfull with this? | 21:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | no | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | see above | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | we live without midgard support since ages | 21:10 |
| Win7Mac | too bad... hmpf... | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | midgard support == ask nemein | 21:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nelieve me, we kinda know our business | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and we'd upgrade to midgard2 rather today than tomorrow if we'd see a chance for this to pan out | 21:12 |
| Win7Mac | I absolutely DO! Just trying to help | 21:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | thanks | 21:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | asking for community help! | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <warfare> I think a "repligard -m" could help. | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas we can't find any repligard binary anywhere | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any pointer welcome | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all I could find at aunt google's is sth like "/midcom/lib/repligard" but just as string in a comment | 21:37 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, should we use the IPHH logo for the thank you notice? | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, I bet they love that | 22:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Pinging the board about the relevant changes so Rob doesn't can me for acting without the board's consent. :rolleyes: | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | i've been absent too long. what is happening? i see you're working on midgard, etc.. | 22:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | great read why we *don't* want to migrate to midcom2: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/modernizing-midcom/ | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | simply because bergie/nemein didn't want either | 22:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anybody spotted repligard binary meanwhile? | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (or script, or whatever) | 22:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: ask warfare | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ...about logo etc | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if somebody here knows then it's him | 23:02 |
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| warfare | GeneralAntilles, DocScrutinizer05: http://www.iphh.net/ - Just use the logo from their website. | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that URL for href | 23:13 |
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