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| Drathir | is any possibility to dump n900 installed apps list? | 07:04 | 
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| Drathir | i goin to prepare for install u-boot and try to backup all info if i must reflash device... | 07:06 | 
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| unclouded | Drathir: would "dpkg --get-selections" suffice? | 07:35 | 
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| Drathir | unclouded: ok i check that thanks | 07:43 | 
| Drathir | on pc i always dump with synaptic... | 07:43 | 
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| Macer | no more presto engine for opera | 08:17 | 
| Macer | lame | 08:17 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/actionmanager// 404, is that a known issue? | 10:31 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | linked from http://maemo.org/packages/view/actionmanager/ ; stale link | 10:31 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: maemo backup app does a complete list of installed apps, and settings, and contacts, calendar events etc | 10:52 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a (I think) a bit tricky question - only half offtopic: | 11:24 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | when I want to create a shellscript that creates a ssh port forwarding (like ssh -i /home/jr/.ssh/id_rsa -L5900:10.0.1.200:5900) and then invokes konqueror... | 11:25 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | but (now the tricky part) QUITS the ssh forwarding when konqueror gets closed. How would I do that? | 11:26 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | NB I don't want invoke konqueror on remote host - so no, I can't pass "konqueror" as parameter to execute, to the ssh command | 11:27 | 
| Hurrian | while ps -ef | grep konqueror = konqueror() else killall ssh? | 11:28 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | kinda like that, yeah. Feels extremely clumsy | 11:28 | 
| Hurrian | I wonder how you can catch a program's exit signal and use that as a trigger to kill a process. | 11:29 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | konqueror && killall | 11:29 | 
| Hurrian | ssh && konqueror && killall konqueror? | 11:30 | 
| Hurrian | uhh, killall ssh. | 11:30 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | but killall gives me nausea in this | 11:30 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ssh doesn't return | 11:30 | 
| Hurrian | ps -ef | grep ssh -i /home/jr/.ssh/id_rsa -L5900:10.0.1.200:5900 | cut $SOME_FORMAT | kill -9? | 11:30 | 
| Hurrian | basically, you're getting the exact process you want | 11:32 | 
| Hurrian | assuming you know how it's invoked | 11:32 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah. i hoped for a nifty non-so-obvious way | 11:32 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | like ssh <`konqueror` or whatever | 11:33 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | (sleep 3; konqueror)|ssh | 11:34 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | the last one actually looks promising | 11:37 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | with a little work, to not send random konqueror output to remote machine... | 11:38 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | and of course ssh must run under root, so sudo, which will ask for password, which will delay the portforwarding get established... YUCK | 11:39 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | konqueror knows so many nice protocols, like "devices://" and "sftp://", why doesn't it know something like "anyscript&&URL://" | 11:43 | 
| Hurrian | because that's a vuln, methinks. | 11:44 | 
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you're basically asking for a dynamic ssh tunnel | 11:51 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yoh | 11:51 | 
| kerio | i'm not quite sure it can be done | 11:52 | 
| kerio | why do you want it do be dynamic? is it to or from a mobile? | 11:52 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: my plan is very simple. I need a ssh portforwarding to access maemo server's IPMI (~=BIOS) interface | 11:53 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: so there's no battery involved in any of this? | 11:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | hte access to that IPMI interface is e.g per web browser, but before I start up web browser and point it to http://localhost:34567, I need to establish the port forwarding | 11:54 | 
| kerio | autossh, and leave the tunnel always open | 11:54 | 
| kerio | easiest solution :) | 11:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it's just cumbersome to juggle with xterm for ssh, with sudo, and with starting konqueror after I established the ssh port forwarding, and tearing down the ssh port forwarding in xterm after I closed konqueror | 11:55 | 
| kerio | autossh it | 11:56 | 
| kerio | and leave it open, i guess | 11:56 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, doesn't feel right | 11:56 | 
| kerio | why? | 11:56 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mustn't have a permanent open link to security critical interfaces of maemo.org | 11:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | if anything rogue happens to my local machine, I don't want it to sneak in to maemo.org as well | 11:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | (yeah sure, I know... more like a general policy than a real consern. but anyway) | 11:58 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | concern* | 11:58 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: would you be happy with a kludge? :D | 11:58 | 
| kerio | is nc installed on the machine you're sshing to? | 11:58 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm happy with anything that works by point&click in 6 months when I forgot how to do this | 11:58 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 11:59 | 
| kerio | localhost:5900 stream tcp nowait joe ssh -T thatserver nc localhost 5900 | 11:59 | 
| kerio | in inetd.conf | 11:59 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | inetd!!! :-D | 12:00 | 
| kerio | it should work | 12:00 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | nifty | 12:00 | 
| kerio | ...but only if the identity file is passwordless, methinks | 12:00 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | it is | 12:01 | 
| kerio | <DocScrutinizer05> if anything rogue happens to my local machine, I don't want it to sneak in to maemo.org as well | 12:01 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, would still not be satisfied | 12:01 | 
| Macer | heh | 12:01 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: run it inside a ssh agent in some way | 12:01 | 
| Macer | so is there a new hifo? | 12:01 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 12:02 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: whatsup? | 12:02 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so we all get 900k$ each from Mr Gates? | 12:03 | 
| Macer | just curious if the hifo was dismantled | 12:03 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | why should it? | 12:04 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think it even can't | 12:04 | 
| Macer | lack of usefulness or redundancy maybe? lack of its board staying. things of that nature | 12:05 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: please stop implying nonsense | 12:05 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | HiFo is absolutely NOT useless | 12:05 | 
| * thedead1440 wonders what happened to Macer's FOIA request to HiFo... | 12:06 | |
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| Macer | thedead1440: sent it in. takes a while | 12:06 | 
| Macer | especially for paper records | 12:06 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | OOOH, it's been Macer who pondered how to annoy everybody inside maemo "administration" (= council / board) with _really_ useless legal requests | 12:07 | 
| thedead1440 | so how it can be dismantled then? :) | 12:07 | 
| Macer | huh? | 12:07 | 
| Macer | all i did was send in a request for the tax records | 12:07 | 
| Macer | it was just a 2 pafe form and a stamp heh | 12:08 | 
| Macer | page | 12:08 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, and a 2h useless trouble at very least for HiFo secretary | 12:08 | 
| Macer | probably nnot | 12:08 | 
| Macer | the records requested would be filed tax records | 12:09 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably you're talking out of your ass | 12:09 | 
| Macer | provided by the us irs | 12:09 | 
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| Macer | uhm ... k? the irs just sends copies of the records to the person requesting them. they dont ask for additional information because of it from the mfp | 12:10 | 
| Macer | nfp | 12:10 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, please go take it elsewhere. We're not interested in EX-maemonians pestering recent HiFo about nonsensical stuff | 12:10 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | just for the fun of "because I *can*" | 12:10 | 
| Macer | er. i wasnt. i was pestering the irs. but ok. | 12:10 | 
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| Macer | hifo wouldnt even know the request was put in | 12:11 | 
| Macer | unless they got audited which i doubt | 12:11 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, didn't you say you sent it to HiFo? | 12:11 | 
| Macer | er | 12:11 | 
| Macer | no | 12:11 | 
| Macer | the us irs | 12:11 | 
| Macer | why would i send it to them? lol | 12:12 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | then we're even less interested | 12:12 | 
| Macer | k | 12:12 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | except for the audit you might have triggered, which we for sure will send you a present and a thank-you card for | 12:13 | 
| Macer | lol... the only reason the irs would do that would be if the nfp had shady records | 12:13 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, take it elsewhere. We are not interested in discussing HiFo | 12:14 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least thedead1440 and me | 12:14 | 
| Macer | regardless... going to try bending my pins a bit and try getting my n900 fired up | 12:14 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | and kerio | 12:14 | 
| Macer | if it doesnt work ill just get another one to have | 12:14 | 
| kerio | i love talking about HiFo, it's my most favourite subject! | 12:15 | 
| Macer | theyre kind of cheap now | 12:15 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: apparently there's no proper way to set up an on-demand tunnel :( | 12:15 | 
| kerio | i mean, that's the most proper way | 12:15 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thanks for popping stack! ;-) | 12:15 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's why I'd prefer to script it | 12:15 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: if you intend to do that, make sure to use connection multiplexing so it won't actually open more than one connection | 12:15 | 
| kerio | and... meh, if the identity file is passwordless we're hosed anyway, if your computer is stolen or attacked | 12:16 | 
| kerio | so i still think that you might as well use autossh | 12:16 | 
| Macer | wth. no more ebay mobile site? | 12:17 | 
| Macer | heh | 12:17 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: when would it ask you for a password? | 12:17 | 
| kerio | and when should it "expire"? | 12:17 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | good question, I probably need to add some --askpass parameters etc | 12:18 | 
| kerio | not only that, you need some way to close it, but only after you're done | 12:18 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it expires when I close the app that uses the tunnel | 12:18 | 
| kerio | ha ha no | 12:18 | 
| kerio | http opens a bunch of connections | 12:18 | 
| kerio | and closes them, too | 12:19 | 
| kerio | there's no way to identify something like that, except by encapsulating the app | 12:19 | 
| kerio | and isn't konqueror one of those fancy programs that do IPC and don't actually do more than one process? | 12:20 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I ponder "(check-for-established-tunnel 34567; konqueror 'http://localhost:34567 &>/dev/null)|ssh -L34567:ipmi:34567 joerg@jumphost.maemo.org | 12:22 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | " | 12:22 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | and no, i think konqueror should work in this setup | 12:23 | 
| kerio | kde must be saner than i thought | 12:23 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least it looks like it should work, whenever I start konqueror instance from shell. It returns exactly when I close konqueror | 12:23 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | konqueror instances may get preloaded, to speed up startup | 12:24 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, I got a similar thing to setup, that works with a complete VPN, and IPMIview which is an annoying java app (C) supermicro | 12:27 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and I probably don't want that VPN up 24/7 either, for absolutely same rationale | 12:28 | 
| kerio | just make a shellscript | 12:28 | 
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| SpeedEvil | a useful alternative can be a cacheing proxzy | 12:51 | 
| SpeedEvil | being able to search locally for historically accessed stuff can be handy | 12:51 | 
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| Macer | hm | 13:53 | 
| Macer | lets see if i can pick this in box new n900 up for 202.50 heh | 13:53 | 
| RiD | that's a lot of money | 13:54 | 
| Macer | really? i didn't think so. | 13:54 | 
| Macer | meh | 13:54 | 
| Macer | i think if it were used it would be | 13:54 | 
| RiD | depends on how much you have in the wallet | 13:54 | 
| Macer | my other n900 has been off so long it won't even try to turn on/charge | 13:55 | 
| Macer | the modem was dead in it anyways | 13:55 | 
| Macer | i really do like the e7 tho :) symbian belle was on the verge of being awesome | 13:55 | 
| Macer | n900 has one major thing that makes it all worthwhile... well... 2.... telepathy and an xserver :) | 13:56 | 
| Macer | i never used one but i heard the meego telepathy front end was supposed to be really ince | 13:57 | 
| Macer | nice | 13:57 | 
| RiD | speaking of symbian, i lost my N73 somewhere | 13:59 | 
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| Macer | if symbian had like another couple of months of development it would have been perfect | 13:59 | 
| Macer | it really needs a new txt msging app | 13:59 | 
| Macer | i wish it had telepathy | 13:59 | 
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| RiD | i hated the ui on the first touchscreen symbian devices | 14:00 | 
| Macer | and email notifications.. wtf was up with that? probably just one of those things they were getting around to | 14:00 | 
| Macer | i bet most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between android and belle | 14:00 | 
| Macer | it actually looks rather maemoish... i suppose that's the qt | 14:01 | 
| RiD | does belle have a dropdown, like android? | 14:01 | 
| Macer | yes | 14:01 | 
| Macer | and email notifications don't go into it lol | 14:01 | 
| Macer | the only way to know you have an email is to use a widget i suppose | 14:01 | 
| RiD | lol | 14:01 | 
| Macer | but i doubt it was their fault... nokia probably pulled the plug on it | 14:01 | 
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| Macer | so they never really got to it | 14:01 | 
| RiD | you still have windows phone | 14:02 | 
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| Macer | lol | 14:12 | 
| Macer | i sold it on ebay for 155 | 14:13 | 
| RiD | i thought you were trying to buy one? | 14:13 | 
| Apic | Nice. | 14:13 | 
| Macer | no | 14:13 | 
| Macer | i got the e7 | 14:13 | 
| Macer | cacelled att and recouped my money by selling the lumia 900 | 14:14 | 
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| Macer | since a new contract meant a free lumia 900 plus $100 of fre accessories | 14:14 | 
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| Macer | so in the end i just have to pay back the $100 for the lumia :) | 14:15 | 
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| Wizzup_ | hm, seems http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php doesn't work anymore | 14:29 | 
| Wizzup_ | Is there another place where images are hosted these days? | 14:29 | 
| kerio | skeiron.org/tablets-dev | 14:30 | 
| Wizzup_ | thank you. | 14:30 | 
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| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if infobot could get tweaked to answer this particular question without attaching attention char to the head of it | 14:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh wait, I could set up an autoresponder in konversation | 14:40 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | but that might get annoying | 14:40 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh! | 14:41 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash | 14:41 | 
| infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 14:41 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Note: | 14:42 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | If http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ does not work use the following mirror: | 14:42 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/<< | 14:42 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | CBA to spread more hints across the interwebs | 14:43 | 
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| Wizzup_ | DocScrutinizer05, I immediately went to a diff part of the guide | 14:45 | 
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| benedikt | anyone used erminig? | 14:52 | 
| Wizzup_ | benedikt, yeah | 14:52 | 
| benedikt | Wizzup_: did you have any issues? | 14:52 | 
| benedikt | i can't get it to sync properly with google calendar | 14:52 | 
| benedikt | events that i create in the phone arent synced to google | 14:53 | 
| Wizzup_ | I set it up a long time ago, and it seemed to work | 14:53 | 
| Wizzup_ | never touched it after that | 14:53 | 
| Wizzup_ | still seems to work | 14:53 | 
| benedikt | maybe its a hit and miss thing | 14:53 | 
| benedikt | syncing from desktop seems to work | 14:54 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | google changed API afaik | 14:55 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | nobody got it to work | 14:55 | 
| benedikt | bloody hell | 14:55 | 
| benedikt | syncing from calendar.google.com to the maemo phone works | 14:55 | 
| benedikt | but not the other way around | 14:56 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | at last that's what I seem to recall i've heard | 14:56 | 
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| narcos | Is it possible to force the N900 to boot when a power source is plugged in? | 15:15 | 
| freemangordon | narcos: actually it boots :) | 15:19 | 
| freemangordon | into ACT_DEAD mode | 15:19 | 
| narcos | freemangordon: ahhh | 15:23 | 
| narcos | freemangordon: Can we ask it to boot into ACT_ALIVE mode? :) | 15:24 | 
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| benedikt | DocScrutinizer05: i can only get the google -> phone working, not google <-> phone | 15:27 | 
| benedikt | all bugs in the issue tracker are from 2008 or 2010 | 15:27 | 
| benedikt | so i guess its something about google being dicks | 15:27 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: yes, that's possible with a flasher command to set a powerkey option | 15:28 | 
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Could you nudge me in the right direction to achieve that? When you say 'flasher', do you mean the flasher utility we use from our PC to flash the phone? | 15:33 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 15:33 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | it has an option to set a flag that's like "powerbutton=on" or similar | 15:33 | 
| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: That's great, super useful, thanks. *Googles* | 15:34 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui it causes N900 to start up like if powerbutton been pressed when you plug in USB | 15:34 | 
| narcos | OK, perfect | 15:34 | 
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| narcos | Looks like it may be "--set-rd-flags force-power-key" | 15:40 | 
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| narcos | Spot on. | 15:44 | 
| narcos | One million internet points for DocScrutinizer05. | 15:44 | 
| narcos | Actually, you should set up a PayPal donation page for the number of times you've helped people/me. | 15:44 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha, there is one | 15:45 | 
| narcos | Oh? Retired on it yet? :) | 15:45 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah sure. If you assume "vacant"="retired" | 15:46 | 
| narcos | ah :-/ | 15:46 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | Recently there are actually some donations there, for migration | 15:47 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | which almost compensate my expenses | 15:47 | 
| narcos | I found your openmoko page | 15:48 | 
| narcos | Ah ok | 15:48 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1326124&postcount=10 | 15:49 | 
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Gotcha, nice. | 15:56 | 
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, what are you living off of, at the moment? | 15:56 | 
| kerio | savings? | 15:56 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yep | 16:01 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: thanks | 16:17 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | now stuff slows down quite a bit | 16:19 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops -ECHAN | 16:19 | 
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: np | 16:25 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<DocScrutinizer05> which almost compensate my expenses)) my expenses on maemo of course :-D | 16:28 | 
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| narcos | hehe | 16:29 | 
| narcos | Hookers and blow on your own tab? | 16:29 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | some servers to pay for, plus an occasional donation to maemo for HDD etc | 16:30 | 
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| narcos | OK | 16:32 | 
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: where i find this maemo backup app? | 16:34 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | in appstarter menu | 16:34 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | called backup | 16:35 | 
| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: you need setup socket in web browser to using a tunnel i think... | 16:38 | 
| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: lol thx i hide it for security... | 16:43 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: hmm? | 16:50 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, the backup app icon? | 16:50 | 
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yes i hide to noone use it ... | 17:40 | 
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| Drathir | one thing is annoying... when unlock phone when typing password numbers showing for a second... and if someone watching when typing pass can see it... | 17:42 | 
| Drathir | for me thats looks like bug... | 17:43 | 
| Apic | Well, you have to leave backdoors _somewhere | 17:43 | 
| Apic | I jumped from a bridge, then I couldn't remember my N900 Keycode for months | 17:43 | 
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| Apic | (Srsly... broke both arms, one leg and one jaw) | 17:44 | 
| kerio | Apic: rescueOS | 17:45 | 
| kerio | and why did you jump from a bridge? that sounds like a bad idea | 17:45 | 
| Apic | Yeah well, I almost couldn't type at all with the broken arms, and suddenly I remembered my passcode again | 17:45 | 
| Apic | Yes, I was tortured in Psychiatry | 17:45 | 
| Apic | I suddenly got a legal guardian who locked my credit cards and my online-banking | 17:46 | 
| Apic | Then I ran away from Psychiatry to another Psychiatry which didn't take me but sent me back to the original one, where they didn't leave me out for two weeks | 17:47 | 
| Apic | When I finally was granted to go outside two hours again I went even madder and jumped... cannot remember anything for hours before the act | 17:48 | 
| Apic | Well... that all was end of 2011... now my body parts are largely usable again \o/ | 17:52 | 
| Apic | And my trusty phone still works B-) | 17:52 | 
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| RiD | Apic what the | 19:14 | 
| RiD | that's a crazy story | 19:14 | 
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| DocScrutinizer51 | infobot: ping | 19:17 | 
| infobot | ~pong | 19:17 | 
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| xavinux | hi people, I am new to MAEMO | 19:19 | 
| freemangordon | xavinux: hi and welcome | 19:20 | 
| vi__ | hi | 19:21 | 
| vi__ | My n900 alarms have stopped working. | 19:21 | 
| xavinux | thank you freemangordon | 19:21 | 
| vi__ | All of them. | 19:21 | 
| vi__ | Stuff set up with alarmd, alarms set by the clock applet? | 19:22 | 
| RiD | it's the 2013 march glitch | 19:22 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: both stock and replacement? | 19:23 | 
| vi__ | I have not tried stock yet. | 19:23 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: WFM, though don;t have alarmd :) | 19:23 | 
| xavinux | have a Nokia N9 and would like to know if I can help the project | 19:24 | 
| xavinux | knowledge about Linux | 19:24 | 
| freemangordon | xavinux: try on #harmattan | 19:24 | 
| vi__ | lol, Well good for you mate! | 19:24 | 
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| vi__ | So what are you working on these days FMG? Did you ever finish mplayer/ramz? | 19:24 | 
| freemangordon | xavinux: #maemo is more or less Fremantle oriented | 19:24 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: upstream pixman, embedlite on fremantle | 19:25 | 
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| xavinux | oh thanks freemangordon for your answer | 19:25 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: and other stuff too :) | 19:25 | 
| vi__ | Is embedlite using pixman? | 19:25 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: gecko? you can bet on it :) | 19:26 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: it is using cairo-qt or (from 2-3 weeks) skia | 19:27 | 
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| vi__ | will it support html5? flash plugin? | 19:28 | 
| vi__ | freemangordon: are you icoderus on tweeter? | 19:29 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | vi__: hows it going. Not seen you floating about in a while | 19:30 | 
| vi__ | I am still here. | 19:30 | 
| vi__ | Just not so much to add these days. | 19:30 | 
| vi__ | sixwheeledbeast: did you write the perfect n900 wiki page? | 19:32 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: no | 19:32 | 
| freemangordon | vi__: hi is harmattan dev, seems a skilled one to me. he did a lots of contributions to harm embedlite UI | 19:33 | 
| freemangordon | *he | 19:33 | 
| vi__ | aah | 19:34 | 
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| freemangordon | vi__: "rus" comes from russian :) | 19:35 | 
| vi__ | the clue was in the name. | 19:35 | 
| sixwheeledbeast | vi__: it was a community effort originally by wirr IIRC. But I did a big rewrite on it, why? | 19:36 | 
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| neither | Hi | 19:37 | 
| vi__ | You forget to mention hildon startup progress or whatever it is called in the list of junk to remove. It is the 5 dots. | 19:37 | 
| neither | I got myself a n900 and I'm trying to connect it to an zarafa groupware via MfE.. I get this Error Message: "either exchange server requires secure connection or account is disabled" ..the ssl cert is selfsigned and the ca cert is already imported via the certificate manager.. I already googled on this issue but im still not sure how to troubleshoot this.. | 19:37 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | vi__: I have never removed it, probably would scare people if "five dots" disappeared it is a beginners wiki after all. "hildon-welcome" is another. The thread is there for more advanced users. | 19:41 | 
| vi__ | yes. | 19:43 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | the main thing to purge is "cherry" PITA | 19:50 | 
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| vi__ | You should make a seperate heading specifically for cherry. | 19:52 | 
| discopig | hi | 19:52 | 
| sixwheeledbeast | mmm, was thinking the same. looking on TMO for the cherry thread | 19:53 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | vi__: will sort that later found a wiki page just on cherry I'll link it in http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 19:57 | 
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| jacekowski | ~skeiron | 21:32 | 
| infobot | hmm... skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 | 21:32 | 
| jacekowski | ~mirror | 21:33 | 
| infobot | rumour has it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/, or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new | 21:33 | 
| Sicelo | ~rmo-new | 21:34 | 
| infobot | methinks rmo-new is do `echo 213.128.137.22 repository.maemo.org >>/etc/hosts` on your N900, as root, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1327342#post1327342 | 21:34 | 
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| Macer | wow | 21:34 | 
| Macer | the n900 eventually sold for 265 | 21:35 | 
| Macer | my max was 225 | 21:35 | 
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| Drathir | C[C[C[C[C[C[C[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D welcome new users... | 21:40 | 
| Macer | uhm | 21:40 | 
| Drathir | wow | 21:42 | 
| Drathir | laaag... | 21:42 | 
| Drathir | im sorry for that strange symbols shouldnt be there... | 21:43 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: forget about rmo-new | 22:05 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<freemangordon> vi__: WFM, though don;t have alarmd )) wut? | 22:07 | 
| Sicelo | i noticedl resolves ok | 22:08 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget rmo-new | 22:12 | 
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot rmo-new | 22:12 | 
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| DocScrutinizer51 | so I finally nuked my gorgeous uptime on IroN900 | 23:52 | 
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| DocScrutinizer51 | and first comment: F U tracker-indexer! | 23:54 | 
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