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| DocScrutinizer51 | 221241 <kerio> only rdmode)) nope, also a lot of more special flags, parameters for r&d mode | 00:14 |
| kerio | that's kinda what i meant | 00:14 |
| kerio | but yeah, rdmode and the various flags for rdmode | 00:16 |
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| akls | DocScrutinizer05, was that "eh" directed to me? | 00:21 |
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| vi__ | .well shit | 00:29 |
| vi__ | I have just increased my n900 collection by 200% | 00:29 |
| vi__ | I am going to make a megalodon BEAST battery. | 00:30 |
| vi__ | 3700mAh | 00:30 |
| vi__ | all fitting into a mugen cover. | 00:30 |
| kerio | lies | 00:31 |
| vi__ | I shit you not. | 00:31 |
| kerio | with one battery in the slot and two sideways? | 00:31 |
| vi__ | nope | 00:32 |
| vi__ | that wouldnt fit anyways. | 00:32 |
| vi__ | ... | 00:32 |
| vi__ | unless maybe you took the pcb of the sideways batterys... | 00:32 |
| vi__ | 4500mAh | 00:32 |
| kerio | C: | 00:33 |
| vi__ | I was thinking samsung galaxy s3 cell+bl-5j. | 00:33 |
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| akls | OH | 00:46 |
| akls | CMUS is working on n900 | 00:47 |
| akls | so maybe I should just stick to cmus instead of moc? | 00:47 |
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| akls | but cmus developer is an asshole anyway... all shortcuts were chosen by random symbol generator? | 00:48 |
| akls | or are they associated somehow with vim commands...? | 00:48 |
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| akls | Jaded, ahem! :) | 01:02 |
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| akls | yea, cmus takes about 35% at 250 MHz | 01:08 |
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| akls | which looks like even lower than with integrated media player | 01:10 |
| akls | I like this channel | 01:11 |
| akls | it's so good to talk to myself here | 01:11 |
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| rzr | no need for internet then | 01:12 |
| SpeedEvil | pulseaudios usage is unfortunate | 01:14 |
| SpeedEvil | at low CPU freqs | 01:15 |
| kerio | PA sucks | 01:15 |
| SpeedEvil | I mean to see if the DMA unit could feed the DAC when the CPU was asleep, bit never got round to it. | 01:15 |
| SpeedEvil | decode 10s to raw, pass it off to DMA, go to sleep | 01:16 |
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| lucas_ | Hi, does anyone know if the X server of the N9 supports rotation? | 01:52 |
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| akls | Jaded, | 03:04 |
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| ShadowJK | SpeedEvil; i suspect that's why the ffmpeg/libav vorbis/mp3 decoders have better battery life | 04:45 |
| SpeedEvil | doubt it | 04:47 |
| SpeedEvil | it would need explicit support through the driver stack. | 04:48 |
| ShadowJK | it might be difference of 1ms vs 10ms, say | 04:49 |
| SpeedEvil | I mean actually put most of the CPU to sleep, leaving only DMA +ram up. | 04:50 |
| ShadowJK | yeah I think it only went down to C3 | 04:51 |
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| SpeedEvil | I have been womderng about that on the n7 too. lack of processor docs is .... grr | 04:52 |
| * ShadowJK remembers his old isa soundcard | 04:54 | |
| ShadowJK | after pc utterly crashed, music still played in a 30s loop | 04:54 |
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| robbiethe1st | My Audigy 2ZS has done that, but it's a much shorter loop | 04:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | :-) | 05:03 |
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| r00t|home | most soundcards can do that... keep playing the last buffer if no new one is provided... back to isa soundblasters... | 05:21 |
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| r00t|home | ah, he was talking about one even | 05:22 |
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| akls | jade, hey!!! | 13:35 |
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| akls | can somebody help me logging in to maemo.org ? :\ | 13:39 |
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| iluminator105 | how do enable motion detection with n900 camera | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | find a nice foss linux package doing that on generic v4l2 devices, and port to maemo | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if nobody else already did | 14:15 |
| iluminator105 | also how do enable the camera to record until space is full or record first record first erase video | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm? | 14:18 |
| iluminator105 | newer version of the camera only record for 36 minutes old one did 75 minutes strange | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | related to 2GB max filesize on FAT maybe? | 14:19 |
| iluminator105 | but still you can keep recording in segments though | 14:20 |
| jaska | fat32? its 4gb - 1 byte max :) | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I doubt a gstreamer pipe like used for cam can do that | 14:21 |
| jaska | prolly needs a circular writer made for it | 14:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | jaska: then why end all my logs and media files I record at 2GB? | 14:21 |
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| iluminator105 | well then camera flash pics with motion detection | 14:22 |
| jaska | no idea, maybe they thought it was a good idea to stop at 2g :| | 14:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | no, I think your claim about max filesize on FAT is incorrect | 14:24 |
| jaska | very well, i'll prove myself right then <.< | 14:24 |
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| akls | it's 4gb | 14:27 |
| akls | for sure | 14:27 |
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| akls | is it ok that my volume keys are not working when calling? | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no | 14:28 |
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| jaska | /dev/loop0 6279168 4 6279164 1% /mnt | 14:28 |
| jaska | /dev/loop0 on /mnt type vfat (rw) | 14:28 |
| jaska | dd if=/dev/zero of=foofile bs=1024k | 14:29 |
| jaska | dd: writing `foofile': File too large | 14:29 |
| jaska | 4294967295 bytes (4,3 GB) copied, 39,0689 s, 110 MB/s | 14:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | peeps, RGB are 32bit in byte, but maybe linux is using a signed 32bit for the file related function calls (you know, negative return = error) | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 4GB | 14:30 |
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| jaska | well, dd is showing decimalgb i guess | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so that makes 1bit less, aka 31bit, aka 2GB | 14:31 |
| jaska | but 4294967295 = 2^32-1 | 14:31 |
| jaska | not 2^31 | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so what? | 14:32 |
| jaska | that the max file size is what i said | 14:32 |
| jaska | not 2g | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thanls for confirming | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nope | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 31bit = 2GB | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | bit 32 is sign | 14:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | int32 filesize() can return up to 2GB size, or error (=negative return value) | 14:35 |
| jaska | well. some crappy software might do that, and linux before large file support | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | see? | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | that's why maemo does that | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | since for sure they haven't thought about including 64bit file subsystem to a embedded device | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | and nobody doubts camera and audiorecorder are crappy software ;-P | 14:41 |
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| jaska | i wonder if watchdog will hit me if i write 4gb on a microsd on the phone <.< | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | after all, what could they gain with 64boit support? another one bit in filesize, since FAT can't handle >4GB anyway | 14:42 |
| iluminator105 | hmmm bbl | 14:42 |
| akls | jade, | 14:42 |
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| jaska | lets see if it reboots before it writes 0xffffffff bytes | 14:42 |
| akls | jade, hey :\ | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | jaska: eh? | 14:43 |
| jaska | i know .avi cant go past 2gb.. atleast standard | 14:43 |
| ketas | what kind of i386 cpu can quad core 1.4ghz arm cortex a9 compares to? | 14:43 |
| ketas | s/compares/compare/ | 14:44 |
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| ShadowJK | a hypothetical 1ghz atom? | 14:45 |
| jaska | hmm, display turned off, not responding to slider or kbd <.< | 14:46 |
| jaska | backlight is on tho | 14:46 |
| jaska | ah, now it reacted | 14:46 |
| Hurrian_ | ShadowJK, 1GHz atom of 2008 | 14:49 |
| ketas | hahaha, apparently some phones contain barometer | 14:50 |
| ketas | what next :) | 14:50 |
| Hurrian_ | atomic timesource. | 14:50 |
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| Hurrian_ | ...now you can have very high precision timers to time your bookface postings! | 14:51 |
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| ketas | hahaha | 14:51 |
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| ketas | really impressive devices nowadays | 14:51 |
| ketas | how about calling | 14:52 |
| ketas | :) | 14:52 |
| Hurrian | the N900 makes calls? | 14:52 |
| Hurrian | who knew? | 14:52 |
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| Gh0sty | anyone ideas how I could get back the status led and keyboard background light on my N900 | 14:54 |
| Gh0sty | noticed a couple of days ago it's gone again | 14:54 |
| Gh0sty | tried the classic trick of turning it off, removing battery, re-attach battery | 14:54 |
| Gh0sty | but no use | 14:54 |
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| Hurrian | Gh0sty, are you in R&D mode? | 14:54 |
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| Gh0sty | how do i know that? | 14:56 |
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| ketas | like... 4g, 3g, 2g, wifi 11abgn 2.4+5ghz, fm radio, gps+glonass, bt, nfc, usb+mhl, accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer... yea, impressive feature count nowadays | 14:57 |
| ketas | somehow, temperature sensor seems to be gone? | 14:57 |
| Hurrian | Gh0sty, if you don't know RD mode, you don't have it | 14:57 |
| ketas | found in some phones | 14:57 |
| Hurrian | ketas, temp sensing is only for on-die or on-battery | 14:58 |
| Gh0sty | some sites said leave the battery out longer | 14:58 |
| Gh0sty | others said that you need to plug in the charger when the battery is out ... | 14:58 |
| ketas | Hurrian: well, but you can read it out, right? | 14:58 |
| Gh0sty | tried that too but didnt reset it it seems | 14:58 |
| Gh0sty | when I plug in the adapter without battery the status led lights up orange bright briefly | 14:58 |
| Hurrian | maybe mce is frigged | 14:59 |
| Gh0sty | left out the battery for a whole night even just to test but ... no go :( | 14:59 |
| jacekowski | ketas: all those are integrated into single ubga chips that take up maybe 1mm^2 on pcb | 14:59 |
| ketas | Hurrian: last phone i remember had actual temp sensor was some old nokia | 14:59 |
| jacekowski | ketas: each one of those* | 14:59 |
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| ketas | jacekowski: bt in 1mm2? | 15:00 |
| ketas | we aren't THAT good, last time i checked | 15:00 |
| ketas | i wonder about if one can just make one chip | 15:03 |
| ketas | together with plasma antenna on chip | 15:03 |
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| ketas | shielding can be pita i guess | 15:04 |
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| akls | If I move my usb connector just a little bit it says "Disconnected". is it ok or should I start worrying about my usb port falling off? | 15:08 |
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| * ShadowJK 'd worry | 15:09 | |
| ketas | akls: is usb port loose? | 15:10 |
| ketas | akls: use something like toothpick to poke it | 15:10 |
| akls | ketas, hmm, no | 15:11 |
| ketas | strange if it has intermittent contact | 15:12 |
| ketas | try other cables | 15:12 |
| ketas | loose microusb port on pcb can be really hard to fix | 15:12 |
| akls | know what :O | 15:13 |
| akls | now it works OK | 15:13 |
| akls | maybe I have scared the shit out of it? | 15:13 |
| ketas | did you threatened to hit it with hammer | 15:14 |
| ketas | meh, death threats to phone | 15:15 |
| ketas | do you feel it vibrating from fear? | 15:15 |
| ketas | :) | 15:15 |
| ketas | "omg, i'm going to die..." | 15:15 |
| akls | well, this device is smarter than I thought | 15:15 |
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| ketas | someone commented that barometer might help with gps | 15:17 |
| ketas | well, true | 15:17 |
| vi_ | where the F is that FMG? | 15:21 |
| akls | and still, why am I unable to login to maemo.org ? -____- | 15:22 |
| deepy | anyone remember who did translations hereish? | 15:23 |
| akls | I can login in garage.maemo.org but can't on maemo.org | 15:27 |
| akls | or is there something I don't understand? | 15:30 |
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| chem|st | akls: how old is your account | 15:35 |
| akls | chem|st, 3 days | 15:35 |
| chem|st | akls: seems the login-distribution script is hung or so... | 15:36 |
| chem|st | X-Fade: are you still looking after that stuff? | 15:37 |
| vi_ | akls garage and talk use differnt log ins | 15:37 |
| vi_ | you have to create seperate accounts for each. | 15:37 |
| chem|st | akls: ah yes to mention talk.maemo.org is not maemo.org | 15:37 |
| akls | but when I press "register" at maemo.org it redirects me to garage.maemo.org | 15:38 |
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| chem|st | akls: yes maemo.org is from garage.maemo.org, we just wanted clarification that you are not trying to logon to talk.m.o | 15:40 |
| chem|st | akls: then you have to wait for someone recognizing and fixing the cronjob | 15:41 |
| akls | well, I'm trying to login at https://maemo.org/ | 15:43 |
| akls | and it says nothing | 15:43 |
| akls | the password is correct, I can login at garage.maemo.org | 15:43 |
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| chem|st | akls: have you cleared your cache? cookies etc? | 15:53 |
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| ShadowJK | ugh. | 16:01 |
| ShadowJK | iirc some parts of the website are buggy in https, and other way around | 16:01 |
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| ShadowJK | the ackage voting comes to mind, I have to edit URLs to get that to work | 16:02 |
| jaska | hmm, watchdog interrupted my dd :( | 16:04 |
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| akls | jaska, have you tried one of these tweaks? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1200669&postcount=2704 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1873316 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1873364 | 16:13 |
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| akls | chem|st, yep | 16:14 |
| akls | chem|st, still doesn't work | 16:16 |
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| chem|st | akls: then you have to wait... | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ohyeah login annoynces. Nokia and meego been best, nothing but FF with *absolute* default config re cookie handling worked | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wazzup with infobot? | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | povbot: seen infobot | 16:40 |
| povbot | DocScrutinizer51: infobot was last seen in #maemo 16 hours, 59 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <infobot> Yipee! | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dang | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ssh reboot time | 16:41 |
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| vi_ | who here has a mugen n900 cover and a micrometer? | 16:46 |
| jaska | former but not the latter | 16:46 |
| vi_ | mmm | 16:46 |
| vi_ | a high quality ruler? | 16:46 |
| jaska | dont think so :| | 16:46 |
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| vi_ | A calibrated piece of string? | 16:47 |
| vi_ | I am trying to determine the internal dimensions of the cover. | 16:47 |
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| jaska | might have a vernier caliper at home.. but not here | 16:50 |
| akls | vi_, are you the guy with 3 batteries? | 16:54 |
| vi_ | akls: I am not sure what you mean. | 16:55 |
| vi_ | I am intending on making a monstrosity battery for those times I need more beef. | 16:55 |
| akls | There was a member on the forum with 3 batteries connected to n900 | 16:55 |
| akls | or something like that.. | 16:56 |
| vi_ | But before I order any cells I need to determine the physical constraints of the big cover, | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | haha, the 3 pcs 16450 | 16:56 |
| vi_ | ]Yeah I saw that. | 16:56 |
| vi_ | It looked badly made and frankly, dangerous to the user and spectators alike. | 16:56 |
| akls | jade, :| | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | it looked like a too small bomb with too huge timer | 16:57 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer06: do you mean 16340? | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | it been 340? | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | nfc | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | thought he used 16450 | 16:58 |
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| vi_ | why are 18650 called 18650? | 16:59 |
| vi_ | surely it should be called 1865? | 16:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer06 | 18mm diameter, 650mm length | 16:59 |
| vi_ | 650mm | 16:59 |
| vi_ | a | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | errr | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | hardly | 17:00 |
| vi_ | 650mm battery. | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | nfc, prolly the length is 01mm unit | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | as in CR2533 | 17:00 |
| vi_ | then why is it not 180650? | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | CR2032 | 17:00 |
| ShadowJK | 0 at end for round | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | oooh | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | ShadowJK for president | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | CR2032 anyway is 20mm dia, 3.2mm 'length' | 17:02 |
| ShadowJK | although wikipedia says millimeters and tenths of millimeters | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | now for friggin lazy infobot... | 17:03 |
| vi_ | would it be an 1865. | 17:03 |
| vi_ | for a square one. | 17:03 |
| vi_ | dammit. | 17:03 |
| vi_ | cmd does not support real characters. | 17:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer06 | whatever that means | 17:04 |
| vi_ | the thing I love most about 18650s are the fact that ther seem to vary in legth +/- 5mm around 65mm. | 17:07 |
| vi_ | s/legth/length | 17:07 |
| vi_ | s/legth/length/ | 17:07 |
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| infobot | DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 17:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer06 | infobot: wb | 17:08 |
| infobot | It's great to be back! | 17:08 |
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| ShadowJK | Protected cells made from 18650 often are still called 18650 despite that adding an extra wire from end to end, and adding a circuit at the bottom and/or a buttin/nipple at the top will have made it larger | 17:11 |
| ShadowJK | Getting a 18600 made costs a helluva lot more for small batches | 17:12 |
| ShadowJK | and factories that will do it are few :) | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's useless anyway | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's even nice the protected ones are longer - you can make holders so unprotected ones don't even contact | 17:14 |
| vi_ | I have some here that are 17.3mm | 17:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 0.8mm for ptotection circuit isn't insane | 17:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, it *is* - insanely thin | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like there's any 'unused space' in the next to perfect cylinders of bare bones 18650 | 17:18 |
| ShadowJK | It's pretty amazing they dont break used in 3 cell flashlights | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...where you could put that protection circuit and still keep outer dimensions | 17:18 |
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| vi_ | did I say 17.3? | 17:19 |
| ShadowJK | Oddly nobody does that | 17:19 |
| vi_ | I meant 73mm | 17:19 |
| vi_ | 73mm long. | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and I read 7.3cm :-P | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dang | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | time for COFFEE | 17:20 |
| ShadowJK | On the other hand they often run on many different combinations | 17:21 |
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| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: too right, I may join you. | 17:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | let's move the last 15 lines here to "the WTF IRC nonsense of the week" and forget it ;-P | 17:22 |
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| * ShadowJK destroyed a lipo yesterday | 17:25 | |
| ShadowJK | Doing a very slow 40-hour charge on it | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but generally just the steel bottom and knob top make a cylindrical cell ~5mm longer than bare bones cell | 17:25 |
| ShadowJK | if it keeps voltage maybe I'll put it on ebay lol | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | been the case since ther been NiCad AAA | 17:26 |
| ShadowJK | Nimh/nicad seem to typically be on the thicker side | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the friggin standrad 'capped' cells never did fit into the multicell packs you found in cellphones/whatever | 17:27 |
| ShadowJK | but still within the tolerances allowed | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I recall dremeling off the knob just so often, to repair a dead pack | 17:28 |
| vi_BRB_COFFEE | ShadowJK: That would be unethical, | 17:29 |
| ShadowJK | vi_BRB_COFFEE; what, selling a potentially damaged battery? That's what ebay is for, and what every battery on there is ;p | 17:29 |
| laxsill | Hey guys. I've had a lot of trouble with the Mail for Exchange. I've tried google solutions and some solutions from the maemo.org forum. But I always get the error "Error in communication with Exchange server". I've tried syncing in both usual Maemo and CSSU (latest editions). Anyone got pointers or ideas? | 17:31 |
| laxsill | (Email sync often works, but never calendar or contacts) | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sell as "3.7V 1.800mAh" ;-P | 17:31 |
| ShadowJK | This was a 11.1V 4400 mAh pack :) | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then make that 11.0V 4.400mAh | 17:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or 4400µAh | 17:34 |
| vi_ | dang, someone put a fish in the perculator. | 17:34 |
| deepy | Why would they do that? | 17:34 |
| deepy | was it fresh? | 17:35 |
| deepy | Was it alive? | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is a perculator? | 17:35 |
| deepy | Is it addicted to coffee now? | 17:35 |
| vi_ | laxsill: What mfe server are you trying to connect to? | 17:35 |
| vi_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN7k-KjE8wI | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict perculator | 17:35 |
| vi_ | ^percolator. | 17:35 |
| infobot | could not find definition for perculator | 17:35 |
| vi_ | ~dict percolator. | 17:36 |
| akls | jade, | 17:36 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'percolator.' (1 of 2): \Per"co*la`tor\, n. 1. One who, or that which, filters. "[Tissues] act as percolators." --Henfrey. [1913 Webster] 2. A type of coffee pot in which the heated water is driven by its boiling action up above a porous canister of coffee held above the level of the water in the pot, and then filters (percolates) back through the coffee thus extracting its essence. [Webster 1913 Suppl. +PJC] 3. (Pharmacy) An apparatus ... | 17:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ahaaa | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I heard of preparing meals in the dish washer | 17:36 |
| deepy | What! XD | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but never of boiling a fish in a percolator | 17:37 |
| deepy | I only heard of running alcohol in teh dishwasher | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might work as well though | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, alc, that sounds dangerous | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you seen that @mythbusters? | 17:38 |
| merlin1991 | nah that's alc in a microwave ;) | 17:38 |
| laxsill | vi_: Google. | 17:39 |
| laxsill | vi_: I'm trying to synd my gmail, google calendar and google contacts to my phone. | 17:39 |
| laxsill | *sync | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think that ever worked | 17:39 |
| deepy | DocScrutinizer05: I think it was for the heat_ | 17:39 |
| laxsill | vi_: Any ideas? | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | laxsill: I don't think that ever worked | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno for sure though | 17:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe it once worked but google broke the API | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems I recall discussions about bi-weekly appointments in calendar | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | some 2..3 years ago | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ask Mohammad- | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if he's still alive :-o | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen mohammadAG | 17:46 |
| infobot | mohammadag <~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 45d 21h 26m 49s ago, saying: 'will put up an example app'. | 17:46 |
| vi_ | I guess he never put up that example app. | 17:47 |
| vi_ | They say, in the end it was the example apps that got him. | 17:47 |
| vi_ | Such is a life wasted on example apps, we shall not understand. | 17:47 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders if Mohammad-'s life at his new location and with university became such interesting or such tough that he muffled completely | 17:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen Mohammad- | 17:49 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'mohammad-', DocScrutinizer05 | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | means he didn't post a single word | 17:50 |
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| merlin1991 | ~seen MohammadAG | 17:53 |
| infobot | mohammadag <~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 45d 21h 34m 8s ago, saying: 'will put up an example app'. | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-10-06.log.html#t2012-10-06T22:54:29 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-09-01.log.html#t2012-09-01T18:09:10 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/search?q=mohammad | 17:54 |
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| vi_ | laxsill: I do not think calander works. | 17:55 |
| vi_ | only contacts and email. | 17:55 |
| vi_ | and even then it is sketchy. | 17:56 |
| vi_ | Blame google for not using proper standards. | 17:56 |
| vi_ | shower of bastards. | 17:56 |
| laxsill | vi_and DocScrutinizer05: Thanks :-/ | 17:58 |
| vi_ | laxsill: have you considered using syncml for calander? | 17:59 |
| vi_ | Or even a middleman like memotoo? | 18:00 |
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| vi_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75810 | 18:03 |
| vi_ | oh | 18:03 |
| vi_ | he has gone. | 18:03 |
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| merlin1991 | any tweego users in here? | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's tweego? | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meego based backseat entertainment system in twingo? | 19:10 |
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| akls | jade, | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | EVOIDMSG | 19:13 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it's a twitter client | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | for maemo | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | formerly named twingo | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah, funny | 19:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | did Renault ask for the name change? | 19:19 |
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| ShadowJK | hm, that's second time in 2 weeks that sgx has hung on my main N900 :/ | 19:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | :-) :-\ | 19:34 |
| kerio | :-( | 19:34 |
| vi_ | How do I open a file from the shell like I would do so from the file manager? | 19:34 |
| vi_ | That is, how do I invoke the mime type handler from the shell? | 19:34 |
| vi_ | for example I have calendar.ics. | 19:34 |
| vi_ | If I open it from osso-file manager it will recognise the type and ask if I would like to import it to the local calendar. | 19:35 |
| vi_ | How do I do this from the shell? | 19:35 |
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| Skry | vi_: xdg-open file.ext | 19:37 |
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| Skry | thats how it should be done, no idea if it works in maemo | 19:38 |
| vi_ | well, there is no xdg-open program. | 19:41 |
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| Skry | oh the surprise | 19:44 |
| Skry | hmm, looks like there is xdg-utils for diablo | 19:46 |
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| Skry | and it also exists for harmattan | 19:50 |
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| joga | does someone know a simple arbitrary binary data visualization tool, that would basically give me a bitmap of the data and even allow zooming in the hex values or so and stretch it around etc, I basically want the same thing gimp does if you open a file as "Raw image data" but preferably with some hex editor features | 20:04 |
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| joga | hexplorer seems to do something like that.. | 20:37 |
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| internetishard | my geek ego can no longer handle my non-geek friends with iphone5s and android- galaxy's making fun of my n900. :( | 21:24 |
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| Skry | ignore and/or change friends. easy. | 21:25 |
| * ShadowJK thought it was normal that geeks/nerds were made fun of | 21:26 | |
| akls | jade, | 21:28 |
| akls | internetishard, what do you mean by "making fun" ? | 21:28 |
| akls | I'm making fun of my android&iphone friends | 21:28 |
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| akls | especially when I show them my physical keyboard | 21:29 |
| akls | and say that it has 32gb too | 21:29 |
| akls | and it is from 2009 | 21:29 |
| akls | and costed me only 75€ from hands with just a little scratch. | 21:29 |
| akls | they look at it and tell me "fuck, I've bought my phone for 500€ and it has 32 gb too and no keyboard" | 21:30 |
| raccoon_ | and you dont have to break the EULA to get access to a terminal prompt. | 21:30 |
| akls | and that moment they start to understand that something is wrong in their life | 21:30 |
| raccoon_ | or "install what you please", rather | 21:30 |
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| akls | internetishard, there was a nice thread about it | 21:47 |
| akls | internetishard, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70390 | 21:48 |
| internetishard | Thanks :) | 21:52 |
| internetishard | "change friends" -> you guys :P | 21:52 |
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| Skry | aawww :> | 21:57 |
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| entitled | hi | 22:07 |
| akls | :> | 22:07 |
| akls | hi | 22:07 |
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| entitled | has anyone had problems with their 2g/3g connection while using thumb+pk51? | 22:08 |
| akls | jade, where are you! I hate you!! | 22:08 |
| entitled | mine loses the whole network (bars disappear and immediately appear) especially when the phone has been untouched for awhile and I start type something | 22:09 |
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| entitled | I lose my connection to the shell but might get some commands/characters through before it happens | 22:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: immediately flash standard stock maemo1.3 | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then check | 22:45 |
| kerio | what do you mean you lose connection to the shell? D: | 22:45 |
| kerio | you botched the kernel | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | without installing anything else beyond virgin maemo1.3 | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: let's hope it's just that | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd get something to bitch about, and we wouldn't lose another N900 | 22:46 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 shouldn't IRC while watching House ;-P | 22:46 | |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i have a working n900 (apart for the usb port) that's just sitting in a box | 22:47 |
| kerio | sometimes i open the box and laugh at it | 22:47 |
| kerio | ha ha | 22:47 |
| entitled | I mean irc shell | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: you mean GPRS/modem/GSM | 22:47 |
| entitled | ye | 22:47 |
| kerio | oh | 22:47 |
| kerio | then your phonet might be fucked up | 22:48 |
| entitled | maybe | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: see what I said | 22:48 |
| kerio | install backupmenu, make a full backup, reflash *all* the software! _ò/, then test | 22:48 |
| entitled | nothing to backup yet | 22:48 |
| entitled | I'll do it tomorrow and check | 22:49 |
| kerio | do it now! :c | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 22:49 |
| kerio | or we won't be able to fall asleep | 22:49 |
| kerio | because we'll be so worried | 22:50 |
| entitled | I did drop this once (lightly) and it lost the sim card | 22:50 |
| entitled | the other n900 has survived far worse | 22:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: if user says he does it tomorrow, you should be happy he's not telling you to STFU | 22:50 |
| entitled | :D | 22:50 |
| entitled | I do appreciate all the help I'm getting | 22:50 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: but i'll be happier if he falls to the pressure :D | 22:50 |
| entitled | just wanted to know if that issue is a "feature" or not | 22:51 |
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| entitled | thank god I saved the application list this time with fas | 22:51 |
| kerio | entitled: if it's actually a hardware problem, then i'm afraid it's a common problem | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's for sure not a feature, nor a known issue of thumb | 22:51 |
| entitled | ok | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, what kerio said | 22:52 |
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| entitled | funny how it happens when I usually press some key after absence | 22:52 |
| kerio | that could just be the connection timing out | 22:52 |
| kerio | entitled: try different keys | 22:53 |
| kerio | (yes, it could make a difference) | 22:53 |
| entitled | for real? | 22:53 |
| kerio | if it's a hardware problem, it's a problem with some soldering | 22:53 |
| entitled | well I do the flash, maybe switch the sim for a while and rule out other possibilities | 22:53 |
| kerio | which could show up if you push on some part instead of some other | 22:53 |
| entitled | ye | 22:54 |
| kerio | grabbing a new sim is also a good thing to test, yes | 22:54 |
| entitled | gjuikfrdteopaslqpwföäcaxqdfkleakxrvb .öcpfävb.akripasdeqwöcpfäakxtÄpse | 22:55 |
| entitled | oops | 22:55 |
| kerio | hahahahahahahaha | 22:55 |
| * entitled is bending his n900 | 22:55 | |
| kerio | yeah, don't do that :s | 22:55 |
| entitled | banging, pressing different keys hard etc doesen't seem to do nothing bad :p | 22:56 |
| kerio | hm | 22:56 |
| kerio | it could still be busted, but it could also be a problem with your sim or your operator | 22:56 |
| entitled | yup | 22:56 |
| entitled | might as well be the service provider, prepaid sim. didn't active | 22:57 |
| entitled | the monthly internet | 22:57 |
| entitled | at least few years ago, when the credit was running low on the phone, it started disconnecting randomly | 22:57 |
| entitled | *on the sim | 22:57 |
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| entitled | but that was back in the day with old S40 nokia and could have been something else too | 22:58 |
| entitled | but yeah, different sim, monthly payment, reflash, etc should tell what's the situation | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: how long is the connectivity dropout? | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does it drop connection but instantly recover? | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or does it stay offline for some time or even until reboot or whatever | 23:05 |
| kerio | hrmpf, doesn't QT use xkb like everything else? | 23:05 |
| entitled | instantly recovers | 23:05 |
| entitled | but still I get cut off | 23:05 |
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| kerio | my shift+fn+key combos don't work and the hold-key-to-sym nonsense is there, in yappari | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that sounds like a carrier problem then, most likely | 23:05 |
| entitled | if I lose connection momentarily in a train, even if it's a longer one I son't get dropped off | 23:06 |
| kerio | and the developer said that he only used the standard-issue QT input box | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | more precisely, a problem with DHCP | 23:06 |
| trx | kerio yes, qt does not support xkb layouts | 23:06 |
| kerio | trx: what the fucking fuck | 23:06 |
| trx | but i checked that a while ago | 23:06 |
| trx | maybe it does in never versions | 23:06 |
| trx | newer* | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: first try a different carrier/SIM | 23:07 |
| entitled | sure | 23:07 |
| trx | kerio if you find some work arrounds, please let me know | 23:08 |
| trx | my english is bad today :( | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course a complete modem reset might cause exactly same symthoms | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: thus please (install ksyslogd and) check syslog | 23:09 |
| entitled | (haven't had problems with this carrier on my other n900, but it might be due to the SIM or the fact I don't have monthly data subscription) | 23:09 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what the hell is wrong with QT? :s | 23:10 |
| kerio | why did they decide to reinvent xkb? | 23:10 |
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| kerio | i'm angry! | 23:12 |
| kerio | i want to blame someone! | 23:12 |
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| Cor-Ai | kerio: im here if you need a nick to blame :P | 23:13 |
| kerio | Cor-Ai: it's all your fault! | 23:14 |
| kerio | >:C | 23:14 |
| Cor-Ai | kerio: sorry :/ | 23:14 |
| kerio | aww, it's ok c: | 23:14 |
| Cor-Ai | :) | 23:14 |
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| Cor-Ai | feeling better now? | 23:14 |
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| kerio | i still can't type accented letters in yappari :( | 23:15 |
| kerio | and i still can't hold-to-repeat-key | 23:15 |
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| entitled | ok i've switched the sims between the phones | 23:31 |
| entitled | initially the problem seems to persist | 23:31 |
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| entitled | at first it didn't want to find the sim and then it lost the sim when I switched from 2g to 3g | 23:32 |
| entitled | sometimes going offline remedies that? | 23:32 |
| entitled | after boot or two, I can switch between 2g and 3g | 23:32 |
| entitled | the sim card icon might flash few times before it works, not sure if it ever did that before or not | 23:33 |
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| entitled | sysklogd is running | 23:33 |
| entitled | I'll see if I catch the problem in action | 23:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | SIM not detected is the precise (though in fact incorrect) description of the hw problem | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to reset modem, you might need a complete power-down, not a straight reboot | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I had a moden fsckup just yesterday (it refused to do any data connectivity on 2G - switching back and forth between 2G and 3G didn't help, neither did airplane mode and back to online) | 23:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I already been ready to blame my carrier the hard way, when I recalled I seemed to have seen saem thing a year ago, when I thought my carrier fsckd his 2G service for days, until I finally booted - not before I entered a shop and shouted a bit at them, about why there's no known out-of-order report known regarding that | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so this time I thought "meh, it's just a boot" and actually, it was just a boot that's been needed | 23:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | all hail to TCP stack implemented in modem, on GPRS | 23:55 |
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