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Skrycould someone with some uptime check how much the 550MHz is used?04:16
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ShadowJK600/550/500/250: 25329753/514800/91460151/10228951404:32
Skrythanks04:33
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ShadowJKC1/C2/C3/C4: 851866345317 / 167290046321 / 314706786667 / 46141755466304:34
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ShadowJKthose look fishy04:38
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Skryhmm, is there any way to get exact (not rounded) mpu clock rate?04:42
Skryin hertz04:42
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wobsiteHey - I have an n900 with a freshly flashed maemo 5 on it and a dead digitizer. The rest of the phone works fine though as far as I know, and I'd like to make use of it. unfortunately as it stands, it boots up and asks me to input the time before doing anything else, which I can't do because it expects me to use the touchscreen. has anybody had any luck tweaking the software without being able to do anything on the phone itself?04:54
robbiethe1stJust buy a digitizer off Ebay04:55
robbiethe1stThey're cheap04:55
wobsiterobbiethe1st: I may do that eventually, but I barely actually need the digitizer once I've got a shell open or something. And I learned the hard way when I bought the phone that high positive seller ratings on ebay are meaningless.04:57
wobsiteIf I can figure out how to modify the rootfs though, I'll be fine.04:58
wobsitemy hope is I can just reflash it after putting something in /etc/rc.local or somesuch.04:58
robbiethe1stIf you've got backupmenu...04:58
wobsitewhat is backupmenu?04:58
robbiethe1stYou need a rootfs image with backupmenu04:58
wobsiteokay... what is backupmenu?04:59
robbiethe1stcheck the topic; basically a pre-boot application for your phone which allows USB access to the home partition, and backup/restore of filesystem images04:59
robbiethe1stgoogle for it04:59
wobsiteah, cool, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.04:59
robbiethe1stThere's a reason I wrote it. Because it's so darn useful, and there's nothing else like it for the N90005:00
wobsiteyeah, looks like it's exactly what I need. thanks a bunch05:00
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iluminator105how do you know if you running stable or testin cssu06:34
iluminator105how do you know if you are running stable or testin cssu06:34
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iluminator105DocScrutinizer51 you there06:55
iluminator105is scratchbox in the standard repos?06:59
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SiceloSkry: ShadowJK .. how do you get to show that?08:19
Sicelo03:16 < Skry> could someone with some uptime check how much the 550MHz is used?08:20
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GGonwow10:40
GGonis there a way to get the stock email app to mark all emails as read?10:41
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GGonguess not10:44
GGonwtf? welcome to 1999?10:44
GGon:)10:44
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VDVsxGGon, maemo4 ?10:47
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GGon510:47
GGonmodest10:47
GGonthere is no "mark all as read" option10:47
VDVsxselect all and then mark as read ?10:48
GGonand unfortunately ms doesnt have imap support for outlook.com yet10:48
VDVsxor something like that10:48
GGonlol10:48
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GGonthere is a way to select all?10:48
GGonctrl a doesnt do it10:48
VDVsxI don't remember really, but I think there's a way :) don't even remember last time I used maemo5 :P10:49
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GGonheh10:49
GGonim using my broken modem n900 tethered10:49
GGoni wish i had a modern n900ish device :( i curse nokia10:49
GGonsomeone should make a pi based phone :)10:50
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eichihello! my maemo sais its needs connection to the phone suite from pc to make an os update (community version). I never did this because I dont have windows. is there a way?11:02
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ShadowJKeichi, it says that when there's a conflict or not enough free space, iirc13:14
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kerioeichi: upgrade the operator name widget first13:20
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eichikerio, thanks, i will try13:29
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SkrySicelo: cpufreq-info17:25
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* ShadowJK just looked in /sys17:30
ShadowJKthe cpuidle numbers dont make any sense to me though17:31
RST38hShadowJK: do keep in mind that these are with respect to current clock17:35
ShadowJKOh I thought they just accumulated ticks17:42
RST38hyeah but these are different ticks depending on the frequency;)17:42
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RST38hSo the running average tends to behave funny17:43
ShadowJKbut in like C4 frequency is 017:43
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RST38h0 idle ticks then? =)17:45
ShadowJKactually it's defined as microseconds, not ticks17:46
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FlameReaperAnyone around?18:23
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andre__FlameReaper: maybe. It's easier if you ask your question directly though :)19:10
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kguI'm sorry for bothering you guys again, but how do I make the switchProfile script start automatic at reboot? I have to choose 'Start' from the status menu before it runs19:17
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DocScrutinizer51~tell FlameReaper about ask19:42
DocScrutinizer51kgu: o.O19:42
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DocScrutinizer51kgu: I wasn't aware from src that it has *any* 'GUI'19:43
FlameReaperUm, I was about to ask something about reflashing, but then I decided to just reflash the whole rootfs19:43
FlameReaperlooks like I'll be starting new again :)19:43
FlameReaperThanks for notifying me about that, will keep that in mind.19:44
DocScrutinizer51~BM19:44
infobotit has been said that backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6397519:44
kguDocScrutinizer51: It does - there is an icon in the status menu. I would just like it to started as default19:44
DocScrutinizer51strange19:44
DocScrutinizer51icon in statusmenu actually means button?19:45
kguyes, sorry19:45
DocScrutinizer51I always thought it needs amnual tweaking with some (XML?) config files to even make any button show up there19:45
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DocScrutinizer51manual*19:46
DocScrutinizer51this pyrhon scriptie seems extremely nifty19:46
kguyes, and it works :)19:46
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DocScrutinizer51I guess I will have to test it eventually19:47
DocScrutinizer51:D19:47
DocScrutinizer51works - even with yor custom profile names?19:47
kgubut I guess I need to provide 'start' as action to the /etc/init.d/ script19:48
kguyes, no problem19:48
kguand guess I must have links in the runlevels too19:48
DocScrutinizer51that's for sure19:49
kguI tried with "update-rc.d -f switch_backend start 99 2 3 4 5 .", but still it doesn't start at boot19:50
DocScrutinizer51though, as already mentioned, I'd start it via desktop file19:50
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kguYes, maybe I should try that19:50
kguare the desktop-files always started?19:52
kgumust admit I'm not to sure about how to create them correctly19:52
DocScrutinizer51"d yes, I recall seeing some def start() which I think I wondered where this function ever gets called19:52
DocScrutinizer51check out modest.desktop19:53
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kguWhat function has this line in the init-script: "unset USE_UPSTART"19:53
DocScrutinizer51or nrowser.desktop19:53
DocScrutinizer51they contain sth like X-MAEMO-AUTOSTART19:54
DocScrutinizer51(Upstart) NFC19:55
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kgusorry, I don't know what that is19:57
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DocScrutinizer05~nfc20:01
infobotfrom memory, nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications20:01
DocScrutinizer05guess which20:01
kerioUpstart - At Least It's Not Systemd!20:02
Gh0sty:P20:04
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DocScrutinizer05kgu:20:11
DocScrutinizer05X-Maemo-Prestarted=always20:11
DocScrutinizer05X-Maemo-Prestarted-Priority=200020:11
DocScrutinizer05pick Prio as you think may fit20:11
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DocScrutinizer05I think the higher the prio, the later in startup the process gets started20:12
DocScrutinizer05aaah >>less /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop20:12
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DocScrutinizer05copy&edit20:12
DocScrutinizer05first FIX FRIGGIN VERSION (all shame on you Nokia), "Version=1.0" is mandatory20:13
DocScrutinizer05(this is version of .desktop file syntax, *NOT* version of binary started by the desktop file!!! FFS)20:14
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kguthx, I will try that as last solution - it MUST be possible to do this with the init script :)20:15
kerioDocScrutinizer05: nothing gives a crap about the version of a .desktop though :320:20
DocScrutinizer05kerio: yes20:20
DocScrutinizer05but that's no valid justification to blatantly abuse it20:21
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DocScrutinizer05kgu: well, if the python cranks up a funny system status menu button just out of nothing, then I guess it imports a class that implements that, and instatiates own process from that class. So it's probably that class you should look docs up to understand how to make it do on launch what otherwise you have to do by clicking that button20:23
DocScrutinizer05ask merlin1991, he seems to have had a look at the code close enough to suggest edits/fixes, so I gather he has a clue what's going on there20:25
DocScrutinizer05have you tried starting the python script directly in shell, maybe with --help as parameter?20:26
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DocScrutinizer05afaik python is rather nifty regarding semi-automatic  help integration20:27
kgu'/etc/init.d/switch_backend start' work flawless20:27
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DocScrutinizer05I meant the python script, not the initscript20:30
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DocScrutinizer05init.d/* start parameter gets evaluated in the initscript20:31
DocScrutinizer05I meant you copy the line in /etc/init.d/switch_backend that invokes the python "binary" directly to shell, append " --help" and fire20:32
DocScrutinizer05you possibly must stop the instance that got started via initscript before you try that, though20:33
DocScrutinizer05'/etc/init.d/switch_backend stop'20:34
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DocScrutinizer05HMMMM20:36
DocScrutinizer05import sys, traceback, gobject, dbus, dbus.mainloop.glib ,os , subprocess import time, sqlite3,mafw20:36
DocScrutinizer05I couldn't think which of those is meant to create a system menu item20:37
kguI think the system menu item is created by another one20:37
DocScrutinizer05so how is it related to profile switcher then?20:38
DocScrutinizer05(hint for lurkers: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72876 )20:39
DocScrutinizer05bbl20:39
DocScrutinizer05afk20:39
kguguess this one creates the status item:20:40
kgu/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/switchProfByMeeting.desktop20:40
DocScrutinizer05o.O20:41
kguactually this one: /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/switchProfByMeeting.py20:42
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keriohttp://i.imgur.com/SAp0D.png oh lol20:48
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jaskayeah, pretty accurate21:09
jaskaatleast for what ive seen on debian/ubuntu21:09
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freemangordonPali: ping23:14
Palifreemangordon, pong23:14
kguWhy is mafw-playlist-daemon started at boot?23:14
freemangordonPali: for some reason bootreason driver cannot read atags23:14
freemangordonand there is no /dev/atags, any clue?23:14
Pali/dev/atags never existed23:15
Palionly /proc/atags23:15
freemangordonwell, the same23:15
Palithere is no /proc/atags?23:15
freemangordonright now I am in maemo /bin/sh23:15
freemangordonno, there is no23:15
Palithen enable atags support in kernel23:15
Paliin that meego it was23:16
freemangordon2.5.4, mind you. might be some kernel parameter23:16
freemangordon*3.5.423:16
Paliatags are still used on arm23:16
freemangordonCONFIG_ATAGS_PROC23:16
freemangordon?23:16
Paliso it shouldnt be deleted23:16
Palimaybe yes23:16
Paliyou can look at config file in my patch23:17
Palialso do not forget to enable bootreason driver23:17
freemangordonit is enabled23:17
freemangordonbut there is no /proc/bootreason23:17
freemangordonseems like omap_get_config is failing23:18
Palithen check dmesg for reason why entry was not added23:18
freemangordonin sh? :D23:19
freemangordonno | sign, you know23:19
freemangordonbooting normal, will try to find in syslog23:19
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freemangordonPali: my fault, I forgot to merge atags patch (from your patch)23:31
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