IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2012-10-08

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DocScrutinizer05general & silent, I'd guess00:05
kguyes, but I have other names00:05
DocScrutinizer05notz really ;-)00:05
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kgusilent is silent, and meeting is nearly silent :)00:07
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DocScrutinizer05kgu: you see those dbus msgs in that script00:30
DocScrutinizer05kgu: in set_profile( self, prof )00:31
kguyes,I have changed them00:31
DocScrutinizer05def update_profile( self ):00:32
kguI'm trying to figure out how often the script will reread the calendar to include new meetings..00:33
DocScrutinizer05it's questionable if it will work to use other profile names, but it should, depending on profile manager you use00:33
DocScrutinizer05kgu: it's event triggered00:33
DocScrutinizer05so - whenever you change calendar00:33
DocScrutinizer05or when a timer expires (start or end of a meeting)00:34
kguI use profileX00:34
DocScrutinizer05it checks for next event due00:34
kguI will see tomorrow if I distrub the meetings or not ;)00:34
DocScrutinizer05you can check dbus (use dbus-monitor) to see if profileX actually implements new profile names, or is also using the old nasty trick to "detune" general profile00:35
DocScrutinizer05tweakr does00:36
DocScrutinizer05(abuse 'general' for all custom profiles)00:36
DocScrutinizer05MWKN once quoted a discussion between me and mohammadAG about that topic00:37
DocScrutinizer05the profiled can handle arbitrary profiles, but profile system status plugin can't deal with new names it seems00:37
kguwhat to look for in dbus-monitor, when I change profile?00:39
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DocScrutinizer05well, some msg with either 'your' profile name, or "silent" or "geberal"01:09
DocScrutinizer05 dbus_interface=''01:10
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jacekowskifreemangordon: looks ok01:42
jacekowskifreemangordon: though, i'm not sure if dmb is required there01:43
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SpeedEvil launch of iss resupply in a little over an hour02:11
RST38hAh, what is the point...02:12
SpeedEvilwell, spacex is at least doing stuff that could lower launch costs a long way.02:18
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RST38hSpeed: As far as I can tell, it is the same carrier, so no idea why it would lower launch costs02:32
RST38hProbably something like twice the cost of launching another Progress02:33
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SpeedEvilsee the 'grasshopper' - which is a testbed for first stage reuse.02:38
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RST38hSpeed: but they are not launching the grasshopper02:48
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RST38hMeanwhile, real enterpreneurs are busy with real business:
* RST38h cackles evilly02:48
SpeedEvilthey have launched it,02:50
SpeedEvilOK, it went 6 feet. but tis a start,02:50
GeneralAntillesCopyright has gotten out of hand.02:52
RST38hGeneral: I am eagerly awaiting when they start handing out jail sentences for copying content02:53
RST38hGeneral: Will be almost as much fun as instituting indenturing servitude as part of bankrupcy proceedings =)02:53
SpeedEvileagerly awaiting?02:54
* RST38h likes good circus02:54
SpeedEvilbeen a while now,02:54
GeneralAntillesI'm interested to see how the next SCOTUS decisions on this play out.02:54
GeneralAntillesI think the ideology is leaning a bit away from absolute copyright insanity.02:54
RST38hThey say SCOTUS is up for a refresh under the next president02:55
GeneralAntillesPotentially 2 seats opening up.02:55
SpeedEvilroll it back to 15 years.02:55
RST38hGeneral: Not as I see it. Quite opposite, Obama is a big friend of copyright, and Romney is a huge friend of big business02:55
SpeedEvilmake patent originality mean something,02:55
RST38hGeneral: So, whatever clown gets the white house, we are fucked =)02:55
GeneralAntillesRomney could seat another Thomas, though.02:56
GeneralAntillesAnother Sotomayor or Kagan though would be death.02:56
SpeedEvilyou should never be able to patent the obvious expression of a problem, if that could be come up by your average engineer in a month.02:56
GeneralAntillesI'm still dreaming of Judge Napolitano, though. :D02:56
GeneralAntillesSpeedEvil, problem is the USPO hasn't scaled well02:57
RST38hYou are dreaming along party lines, I am afraid02:57
GeneralAntillesand they have ZERO incentive to do due diligence.02:57
RST38hYou want sane people, whatever their party leaning02:57
GeneralAntillesI say privatize it.02:57
GeneralAntillesRST38h, tribalism seems to run deeper on the left.02:57
RST38hThe left is full of well-intentioned idiots02:58
RST38hThe right is full of crazy corporate wackos though02:58
* RST38h can't really says which ones are worse =(02:58
GeneralAntillesThey're both pretty bad.02:59
GeneralAntillesTime for a third party.02:59
GeneralAntillesRight now I think the personality cult of Obamaism is worse.02:59
RST38hlibertarians (tm)? same crazy wackos, on steroids =(02:59
GeneralAntillesBut that could easily shift back the other way.02:59
GeneralAntillesRST38h, OK, a third and fourth party.02:59
GeneralAntillesLibertarians are the largest 3rd party.03:00
* RST38h does not see any Obama cult - the guy is basically faceless, tasteless, etc03:00
GeneralAntillesOnly ones fielding a remotely viable candidate.03:00
GeneralAntillesRST38h, sure, he is, but look at all of the people who'd vote for him no matter what he did.03:00
GeneralAntillesI shouldn't say personality cult.03:00
GeneralAntillesMaybe person cult.03:00
RST38hGeneral: I would vote for him. But not because of what he did03:01
RST38hGeneral: He has been relatively harmless so far03:01
GeneralAntillesNot really.03:01
GeneralAntillesLook at his Justice Department03:01
RST38hGeneral: I would vote for Romney too, if not for his backers03:01
GeneralAntillesand the DoE03:01
RST38hGeneral: It is all small shit, compared to Dubya though03:01
GeneralAntillesThere's also the whole drone assassination thing.03:01
RST38hGeneral: It is efficient03:02
GeneralAntillesIt's illegal.03:02
GeneralAntillesand incredibly immoral.03:02
RST38hGeneral: He is the government.03:02
GeneralAntillesYeah, we have a constitution, though.03:02
RST38hGeneral: Government has no morals. No ethics. And it determins what is legal or not on its own03:02
GeneralAntillesYou can't assassinate US citizens.03:02
RST38hGeneral: For overseas, we don't03:02
Gh0styGeneralAntilles: yes you can03:02
RST38hGeneral: You can if congress says so03:02
Gh0styjust pick up a gun at a local department store and shoot!03:03
Gh0stybecause we can!03:03
RST38hInteresting, I have just read an article about this angle on Obama =)03:03
GeneralAntillesGh0sty, government action.03:03
Gh0stysure they say that ... but their actions ... :P03:03
RST38hGeneral: Don't be silly, the government will kill Jesus Christ if someone in the DoD decides it is necessary for the national security03:03
GeneralAntillesRST38h, Obama's also brought racism and class warfare back into vogue.03:03
GeneralAntillesOK, "can't" is the wrong term.03:04
RST38hGeneral: It has never been gone.03:04
GeneralAntillesIt's unconstitutional, and I wont stand for it as a voter.03:04
GeneralAntillesIndeed not03:04
GeneralAntillesBut it hadn't been this prominent.03:04
RST38hGeneral: Maybe in Florida, but if you are living in the MD/DC/VA area, there has not been any change whatsoever03:04
GeneralAntillesI laughed:
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RST38hBTW, class warfare is on the rise not due to Obama. It is rising due to increasing income differences between folks on the bottom and folks on the top03:07
GeneralAntillesWhich is in big part thanks to Obama and his cronies (and Bush and his cronies).03:08
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SpeedEvilI was amused to hear the upper limit of 'the middle class'03:09
ShadowJK_as in that it's high up there in ludicrously filthy rich territory?03:10
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SpeedEvilwell, not ludicrously. but 'the 1%'03:12
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DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: hey buddy, long time no see04:18
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: well, you got to vote between a and A in your hillarious 2 party system04:24
DocScrutinizer05I'd even assume Obama *tried* to do the 'right thing' - just there's another party without which you can't do anything04:26
DocScrutinizer05and the differences are negligible04:26
DocScrutinizer05both are 100% opportunists04:26
DocScrutinizer05and you're as well (USA citizens)04:27
DocScrutinizer05"sure! save the planet! but pretty please stop that shit if that means I have to pay more for a complete fueling at gas station"04:28
RST38hMeanwhile: WoW hackers lay hands on the weapons of mass destruction04:29
DocScrutinizer05American think they're soooooo cute04:29
DocScrutinizer05they don't give a shit about rest of the world04:29
DocScrutinizer05and any president has to deal with this majority04:29
RST38hSee, General, what Dubya has done? Those Europeans no longer respect US. They no longer hate the US, even. They merely think it is funny =)04:29
RST38hDoc: "World of Warcraft players in Europe experienced an unpleasant Sunday afternoon, after an 'exploit' resulted in the death of every character in several cities." <== that is what happens to those who mock the US might!04:30
* RST38h cackles, sacrifices a hamster to the Tentacled One04:31
DocScrutinizer05RST38h: indeed USA is a poor joke, the more when this other asshole (mit???) makes it04:34
DocScrutinizer05"leading by merits" - lost game for USA04:35
DocScrutinizer05(not that anything in 'old Europe' would be any better)04:36
DocScrutinizer05Chinese laugh at us04:36
DocScrutinizer05except the 1000 foxcon workers who _got_ beaten (the other 1000 beat them)04:37
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DocScrutinizer05RST38h: I'd love to see a closer link between WoW reality and RL04:38
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RST38hYou mean,the current one is not close enough?04:39
DocScrutinizer05no way04:39
RST38hThey have got WMDs, viral epidemics, and a freaking opera showing The Red Riding Hood04:39
* DocScrutinizer05 throws a few meteorites at SOL304:39
* DocScrutinizer05 doesn't even wonder where they impact04:40
DocScrutinizer05every location is fine04:40
DocScrutinizer05maybe except bikini atoll04:40
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stardivinerI find my N900 failed to send message now. Is it a bug from update ?05:40
stardivinerIs there anybody has this problem ?05:44
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Sicelowhat update?08:41
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infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer51: yes it is12:44
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pavin900 skype cant sign in either on wifi or 3g21:17
pavilooks like many have same problem
ShadowJK_hm, it signed on ok here i think?21:18
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Sicelosame here. in fact, skype is the only one that will always connect on mine.. no matter how bad reception is.21:41
Siceloto bad it's a power hog, it seems21:41
infobotSicelo meant: too bad it's a power hog, it seems21:41
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zsolthello.could somebody help me?trying to compile power kernel 51r1 with arm-eabi,but it is not booting22:37
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kerioPali: *poke*22:39
zsoltframebuffer not working,no verbose messages22:41
zsoltit hangs during boot and swith off my nokia n90022:43
Sicelowatchdogs .. :-/22:43
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jacekowskii've had problem with skype on my android like yesterday23:08
jacekowskii'm not sure about today23:08
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