IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2012-10-05

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entitledso... about calibrating the battery.00:17
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entitledI read the topic about using scripts to calibrate the phone00:18
entitledfirst full charge, then down to 10%, reboot etc00:18
kerioentitled: stop bme, make it drop low, start bme again00:19
entitleddo I do that or does it get recalibrated on it's own too in time, letting the battery run out, recharging00:19
keriofirst of all, you can only calibrate bq2720000:20
keriobut the information it holds isn't used in the standard battery meter00:20
keriofor some stupid reason00:20
kerioyou can, however, access it explicitly to get some accurate data00:20
kerioto calibrate bq27200 you *have* to do that procedure00:20
keriocharge fully so that the chip registers a valid discharge00:20
keriothen discharge it00:21
keriountil it hits EDV1 (about 6%)00:21
kerioonce it hits EDV1, the calibration is done - start charging it again00:21
kerio this is a script i made00:22
kerioto use it: offline mode (not exactly required), brightness level 5 and no screen blanking (keep the screen on)00:24
kerioconnect it to the charger, start the script00:24
kerioit'll take about 4 or 5 hours00:24
kerioso do it before going to sleep00:24
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entitledjust run out of juice, rebooted00:26
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DocScrutinizer05WUT? a script YOU made. :-S00:32
DocScrutinizer05iirc it's based on a script *I* made, which in turn based on a script by ShadowJK based on another script *I* made00:33
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DocScrutinizer05~seen javispedro00:36
infobotjavispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 34d 2h 58m 51s ago, saying: 'out of curiosity, what is the problem with qt5 builds?'.00:37
DocScrutinizer05I think now I know why00:37
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DocScrutinizer05worse even: I made this script on your special request00:42
DocScrutinizer05since you fscked around with estel instructions00:43
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: hey00:44
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: u got rought today, ah ? :))))00:44
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DocScrutinizer05and guess who helped estel to semi-grok that stuff so he could come up with those over-sophisticated instructions... :-(00:46
DocScrutinizer05now it's kerio's script. Well, fine with me00:46
DocScrutinizer05probably that's what FOSS means nowadays00:47
* DocScrutinizer05 ponders giving the qwerty12300:48
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DocScrutinizer05ooh I forgot the evidence for 2nd script:
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DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK evidently did a complete rewrite, since he didn't like th ebash dependency00:52
* DocScrutinizer05 throws a penny to decide /join #ubuntu or rather /join #android00:56
* DocScrutinizer05 needs some chillout time, and probably an alternative to here00:57
entitledwe get this alot here?00:58
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int_uaWhat about Chromium on Maemo?02:28
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SpeedEvilit did exist02:33
SpeedEvilI am unsure if any copies are still up.02:34
SpeedEvilthere was a caterpillar attack,02:34
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int_uaI've rearched the lawsuit that was mentioned and there are no results posted online02:42
int_uait was due somewhere in 201202:43
int_uaand chromium is still distributed in many repos02:44
int_uathe _only_ one that stopped distributing was Maemo02:44
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SpeedEvilthere was a legal threat03:31
SpeedEviland Nokia legal pulled it03:31
SpeedEviland then I think the dev - was it jacekowski - got bored with pushing it03:32
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merlin1991what about chromium can be legally challanged?03:44
robbiethe1stThere was some feature03:45
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robbiethe1stthat someone had supposedly patened, something about the update method03:45
robbiethe1stI believe using diffs...03:45
nox-binary diffs yeah, but that code wasnt even used on *ix03:45
nox-iirc it was called courgette...03:46
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sLumPiaHi guys06:45
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sLumPiaShould I update to mp-fremantle-community-pr=21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb3 ?06:47
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sLumPiathanks freemangordon07:38
freemangordonsLumPia: ?07:38
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: software patents don't exist in europe, and i'm pretty sure every byte in my script was added from my kbd ;)08:39
keriobut yeah, it's basically a rewrite of your script08:39
kerioi suppose i should've said that08:40
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GGoni get my replacement rpi tomorrow08:50
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jaskahm.. keycaps are getting worn so the backlight ahines thru08:56
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: please don't leave us :310:04
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teotwakikerio: software patents maybe not, but copyright definitely does. Anyway, I don't think doc is actually pissed because someone copied it, but rather because other people are taking credit.10:34
kerionah, he's actually mostly pissed because of the council thing10:34
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teotwakiwhat council thing?10:35
kerioteotwaki: onwards10:35
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teotwakiDocScrutinizer05: if you want, I recently setup a mirror for LMDE, I'm using up ~600GB on that disk, but still have some ~300GB available. I can mirror another thing on there, if you want.10:36
kerioheh, a mirror of would be more useful >:D10:38
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teotwakimore useful than an LMDE mirror?10:40
teotwakiJust give me the rsync, I'll set it up right now ;)10:40
teotwakikerio: ^10:41
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kerioteotwaki: apt-mirror dat shit10:42
kerio(but really, don't - rehosting the packages would be somewhat illegal)10:42
teotwakianyway, that box is 18euros a month, for 1TB of HD, dual or quad core (it depends whether you're lucky or not), 2GB of RAM, and a 100MBit unlimited bandwidth line.10:42
keriolots of (c) Nokia packages that you can't redistribute10:43
kerio(talking about the mirror, not the LMDE mirror)10:43
teotwakiwell, I know, I've been working with the LMDE guys to provide it to them ;)10:43
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teotwakiI even helped them building a package that updates the available mirrors to LMDE users, and selects the fastest one.10:44
keriofastest one ping-wise?10:44
teotwakino, download10:44
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teotwakiwith a simple command that allows you to change mirrors whenever you feel the one you're using is slow10:44
keriowhat's better? mate or cinnamon?10:44
teotwakithere's only 3 mirrors... so10:45
teotwaki(well, 4, with mine)10:45
teotwakiThis feature allows them to accept temporary bandwidth donations... For example, the mirrors get hammered when big updates are pushed (like the recent UP5). People can now donate bandwidth just for a month, instead of having to commit 365 days a year.10:45
kerioi wonder how cloudflare would work for something like an apt repository10:46
teotwakikerio: I prefer MATE, but I was a Gnome 2 guy (I even attacked dneary on Twitter because of Gnome 3)10:46
spoofykerio: cinnamon is gnome-shell light :) Mate is a gnome 2 fork but buggu10:46
teotwakiIt's fast, responsive, doesn't use any graphics bullshit, and is massively stable.10:46
spoofyHello btw. ;)10:46
teotwakispoofy: buggy?10:46
teotwakiI've not had a single bug in months!10:47
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teotwakiThe last bug I had was that the VPN passwords would not be stored, so I'd have to retype it again and again, that was fixed in the last push.10:47
teotwaki(well, last push on Mint 12)10:47
teotwakikerio: I'd say, just download the LMDE MATE/Cinnamon DVD, and play around in both.10:48
kerioi'd have to use a VM though10:48
teotwakiI'm seeding all the linux mint DVDs on bittorrent anyway10:48
kerioi don't exactly have an optical reader10:48
spoofyteotwaki: Ugh.. For example every time I used compiz I had to kill marco manualy10:48
kerioor a way to boot a BIOS bootloader without a stupid compatibility layer10:48
teotwakiwhy would you use compiz on mate?10:49
spoofyteotwaki:  also menu in lmde edition was buggy10:49
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teotwakispoofy: Which UP?10:49
spoofyteotwaki: couse I like gnome2+compiz?10:49
teotwakibut then that's not a bug in MATE ;)10:49
teotwakiThat's a bug in compiz ;P10:49
spoofyugh I don't know. Now I prefer arch with xfce/fluxbox..10:50
teotwakiI'm still completely amazed that a handful of volunteers were able to fork gnome 2 and gnome 3, at the same time, and make something decent out of both projets10:50
teotwakiHeh, I used to be a hardcore fluxbox fan, back in my gentoo days... That was probably way back in 2001?10:51
teotwakiHoly shit, that's a memory from over 10  years ago.10:51
spoofyteotwaki: yeap. They done amazing work. But face it - gnome 2 is dead and mate will not survive10:51
teotwakiWell, gnome 2 is dead, sure10:52
teotwakiBut why would MATE not survive?10:52
teotwakiDo you see a lot of features that still need implementing?10:52
spoofyteotwaki: ok, ok. But how many distros will have it?10:52
teotwakiOnce it's stable, it's just maintenance; and that can go on for years, for relatively little cost10:52
teotwakispoofy: Well, all of them have it, don't they?10:53
spoofyteotwaki: Red hat/centos as default? I don't think so.10:53
fastateotwaki: don't be amazed.10:53
teotwakispoofy: you never said default ;)10:53
fastateotwaki: some core Gnome people were simply incompetent.10:53
fastateotwaki: it's really not that much of a stretch to do better.10:53
spoofyteotwaki: then every distro have xmonad too..10:53
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teotwakispoofy: yeah, probably.10:54
fastateotwaki: Gnome2 is still being used in Debian Stable, btw.10:54
teotwakispoofy: does something have to be installed by default to be successful? In that case, allow me to say that GIT IS DEAD, IT WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL!10:54
fastaI also changed my defaults completely.10:55
teotwakifasta: yeah, but then again, Debian Stable is dead.10:55
fastateotwaki: no, it's very alive.10:55
teotwakinot dead as in "it's not used or abandoned", but dead as in "the software in there is *very* old".10:55
fastateotwaki: the reason for that is that not a lot changes :)10:55
fastaI wonder whether the Gnome developers use Gnome themselves.10:56
teotwakiThey use Unity.10:57
fastaUnity is bad, because it's slow.10:57
teotwakiWarning: If anyone dares say Unity is actually good, and they use it on a daily basis, you will be kicked, and have your geek card removed.10:57
spoofyteotwaki: nope but in these days everybody looking at fu***'n ubuntu and default environments10:57
fastaIf I press the Windows key to bring up the Dash, I have to wait.10:57
teotwakifasta: there's your problem. You have a windows key.10:57
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kerioit's a Super key10:58
fastaI think anything over 0.03 seconds is too slow.10:58
spoofyfasta: gentoo guy?10:58
fastaAll it needs to do is switch two OpenGL buffers.10:59
fastaspoofy: no, quality software guy.10:59
teotwaki[CSI Miami spoof] You mean you believe it should be... [puts on sunglasses] fasta? [YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]10:59
fastateotwaki: :()10:59
fastaI think the 'project manager' just managed the project incorrectly.11:00
fastaIt gave a list of requirements, but not a performance target.11:00
fastaOr rather, not a good one.11:00
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teotwakiWhy do Java programmers wear glasses? Because they don't C#.11:02
teotwakiQuote by milosz on ##c++.11:02
teotwakiGotta go fix some bugs and wrap up a release before leaving on holiday11:04
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vi_does anyone know where the kernel power script is run from?12:29
vi_even after purging it I get a message at bootup telling me my settings have not been loaded.12:29
vi_How the F do  get rid of it.12:29
vi_There is not event.d files.12:29
vi_Nothing in /etc/X11/Xsession12:30
vi_Nothing in rco]12:30
vi_Nothing in rco12:30
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kerioPali: ^12:44
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archeyDevilMission to reflash my phone :)13:07
* archeyDevil has booted 32-bit arch install on notebook. :)13:08
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archeyDevilflasher 2.5 for n900?13:12
archeyDevil3.5 :/13:13
archeyDevilIt says flasher v2.5.2 but downloaded 3.5_2.5.2.213:14
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archeyDevilDocScrutinizer51: DocScrutinizer05 (whichever you are O.o) What sound right ^_^ Sure doesn't from here..13:19
archeyDevilOkay is right lol13:21
archeyDevilStrange tho13:21
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archeyDevilRX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -- This the only file I need other than the flasher?13:37
archeyDevilDocScrutinizer51: Heh. I know you said the hwrev for my phone was rare.. flasher --set-hw-revision=mine ;)13:38
archeyDevilCan can haz the same too!!13:39
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archeyDevilflasher-3.5 --boot=ARG # Possible solution to getting around the multiboot?13:42
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kerioarcheyDevil: flasher-3.5 shows flasher v2.5.2, yes13:55
kerioand if you want to do a proper, full reflash you need COMBINED and VANILLA13:55
keriomake sure those are from pr1.3 (the latest)13:55
kerio(and grab the global versions, just cause)13:56
kerioMD5 (combined-pr13.bin) = b9f8690318a3be61767826d15b8c178413:56
kerioMD5 (vanilla-pr13.bin) = 488809ff96a0a05479d692e9f77aeb4f13:56
archeyDevilRX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -- That is newest global compined13:56
* archeyDevil rage -.- 191M file downloading at a dialup connection speed!!13:57
* archeyDevil has adsl2+! -.-13:57
kerionote that VANILLA will overwrite the content of your MyDocs13:57
kerioand pretty much give you a phone that's as close to factory conditions as possible13:57
archeyDevilCombined will not? O.o13:57
keriocombined is just most things on the nand + home (optfs)13:58
keriomydocs is left untouched13:58
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keriothe partitioning of the emmc is left untouched too13:58
archeyDevilOkay. :)13:58
archeyDevilwell download is currentl7 78%13:58
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archeyDevil(started a while ago)13:59
archeyDevil60-70KB/sex now. :)13:59
archeyDevilsec *13:59
kerioPali: is KP52 bugfree?14:00
Palikerio, should be14:01
kerioPali: i'll test it - link?14:01
kerio(to the debs or the thread)14:01
Palibut in git are some changes fro bq2415x/rx51_battery drivers14:01
kerioare you going to put them in the proper KP52 release?14:01
keriowhen is that going to happen?14:01
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PaliI will put new debs of prekp5214:02
keriok, i'll wait for those and report14:03
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Paliping freemangordon14:03
archeyDevilPali: pong14:03
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kerioPali: btw, which toolchain are you using?14:03
* archeyDevil always pong to everyone's ping s:P14:04
kerioarcheyDevil: your routing is fucked up bro14:05
keriofix it14:05
Palikerio, arm-2007q3-51sb6-gdb71-arm-none-linux-gnueabi_linux_x86_64 gcc 4.2.1 which is part of madde14:05
archeyDevilkerio: nothing wrong with it. Just the slow nokia servers -.-14:05
kerioarcheyDevil: i meant the ping/pong thing14:05
archeyDevil64 bytes from icmp_req=2 ttl=46 time=172 ms14:05
archeyDevilkerio: oh lol14:05, 170ms to google dns?14:05
archeyDevilMy ping avg 48-480 :P14:06
jaskaits an anycast address anyway i think14:06
* archeyDevil can play teeworlds (game) with a ping of 2380 ;)14:06
keriojaska: yeah, but it should be much faster than that14:06
keriogoogle is fairly good at networking :)14:06
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archeyDevilkerio: They are hacks14:07
archeyDevilRouting hacks = not cool. Yes, they own it but they have fun with routing. :P14:08
kerioit's not a routing hack, it's anycast14:08
archeyDevilI know14:09
archeyDevilI can call it a routing hack cause I don't intend on learning how it's working lol14:09
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deepyReply from bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=4414:09
deepyReply from bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=4414:09
archeyDevil24 is my lowest ping14:10
deepy30, but I'm on a VPN in Germany14:10
archeyDevil8032 is my highest (w\ timeout's extended hehe)14:10
Hurrianyour request -> ISP -> upstream -> backbone -> "nearest" google DNS server, selected by your upstream provider14:10
kerioit's basically magic14:10
Hurriankerio, it's up to the upstream providers to choose where to route your crap14:11
kerioof course14:11
Hurrianif they simply do not care, your packets may go around the world14:11
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archeyDevilflasher doens't wanna work... :/14:16
vi__maemo-pan package is completely fubar.14:16
vi__It depends on 'bluez-utils'14:17
vi__bluez-utils is not called bluez-utils, it is simply called bluez!14:17
vi__what fuck knucle is responsible for this?14:17
vi__what fuck knuckle is responsible for this?14:17
archeyDevilbluez should provite bluz-utils... fail packager ^_^14:18
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vi__Luke-Jr: dooood!14:18
archeyDevilwai... maemo-man?14:18
archeyDeviloh pan14:18
vi__DocScrutinizer51: ping14:19
vi__So how do I trick it into thinking 'bluez-utils' package is really there?14:19
archeyDevilDocScrutinizer05: ping14:20
archeyDevilvi__: edit the package that requires bluez-utils14:20
archeyDevilIs just a tar file. Edit the file that looks different to the rest all capital letters ( I forgot lol )14:21
* archeyDevil hasn't used debian primaraly in over 3 years14:21
archeyDevilarchlinux ♥14:21
vi__doesnt that break a checksum or something?14:22
archeyDevildownload + edit14:22
archeyDevillocal != check14:22
archeyDevilGot nothing to check against14:22
archeyDevilapt not locked to require checks14:22
archeyDevilJust install local.dev14:22
archeyDevilJust install local.deb14:22
archeyDevildpkg --unpack or something14:23
vi__yeah? HTF do I download it?14:26
vi__I try apt-get --download-only package14:26
vi__and it just shits about broken depen.14:26
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archeyDevilphone flashing :D14:26
archeyDevilerasing CMT?14:26
Lava_Croftoh i thought you meant raise your shirt if you are a female14:27
Lava_Croftsilly me14:27
archeyDevilLava_Croft: Wha..?14:27
archeyDevilProgramming CMT: slow% -- What is this? AI programming??? xD14:27
archeyDevilWhy slow -.-14:28
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archeyDevilWhoah. green on white.. haven't seen text like that in ages!! (used to green on black)14:28
* archeyDevil shall stop talking. Bricked brick != bricked anymore :)14:28
Lava_Croftaww bricked:<14:28
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archeyDevilLava_Croft: I bricked my brick xD -- Unbricked now tho :P14:35
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Lava_Croft \o/14:35
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keriodammit vi, you ruined it14:38
archeyDevilMy phone .... I go settings. the screen is a little fubar'd blue dotted lines at the top... ?14:39
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archeyDevilBlah. fixed that (change theme, and revert) But still "Device Lock"14:42
archeyDevilAny way to change this?14:42
archeyDevilThe device lock code, I never knew nor touched (and isn't default 12345) Got it 2nd hand14:43
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kerioarcheyDevil: it's saved in CAL, grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1ro | tail -114:51
kerioit's crypt(3)ed14:52
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keriobut it's just numbers, so you can just use a tiny python script to test the possible numbers14:52
archeyDevilkerio: john to crack?14:52
keriosure, it would work14:52
keriobut it's only numbers, so there's probably a faster way14:53
keriois there a way to tell john to only test numerical passwords?14:53
archeyDevilwell.. Ima install rootsh then openssh and get my system back to where it was :P14:53
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archeyDevilNo catalog's for apt?14:55
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* archeyDevil thinks glitch ^_^ haha14:56
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archeyDevilIs there only the extras repo to add?14:59
archeyDevilOr is there a core/base?14:59
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keriocore is nokia mr0 + nokia ssu15:00
kerioor something15:00
keriothen there's extras-devel15:00
kerioand then CSSU15:00
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kerioarcheyDevil: but seriously, find your lock code now15:01
archeyDevilkerio: lol15:01
kerioit's easy, it's crypt()ed15:01
archeyDevilI add the extra repo... but it's not showing lol15:01
keriodo you have root access now?15:01
keriosudo grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1ro | tail -115:02
archeyDevilkerio: not yet15:02
archeyDevilCatalogs: loading.... and now I have them15:03
archeyDevilinstalling rootsh in a minute15:03
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archeyDevilopenssh is in devel-extra right?15:05
keriothere's not exactly any reason to enable anything but extras-devel, if you're careful with what you install and can live with some minor instability15:06
archeyDevilAs always ^_^15:06
archeyDevilMy desktop = archlinux + testing repo ;)15:07
archeyDevilExpect failure if you don't read the mailing lists and something critical changes xD15:07
archeyDevilIt's a great system but no matter the issue, always resolvable15:07
archeyDevilO.o Dictionary auto complete - This "new" in PR 1.3?15:08
kerioi just disable stuff like that15:09
archeyDevilSame but it's strange lol15:09
archeyDevilNot used to it and it appears when I use PR 1.315:09
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Paliping merlin199115:21
archeyDevilPali: pong15:21
archeyDevilkerio: number .... How long should this grep take?15:23
archeyDevilkerio: I also didn't do tail -1 I can tail it out myself.. not gonna wait for it to finish from all input15:24
kerioit's really, really quick15:25
archeyDevilwhoops XD 'lock_code' didn't type that xD15:25
archeyDevilanyone wanna decode?15:26
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vi__fuck the the cretin who put maemo-pan in the repos.15:29
vi__such a broken piece of utter fucking shit.15:29
vi__can't install it because of a non-existant dependency.15:29
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vi__cannot uninstall it because it chokes on its own post script.15:30
vi__fails to uninstall because it cannot kill pan-daemon.15:30
vi__ther eis no pan daemon running because it is a broken piece of shit.15:30
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vi__I had to create an infinite  bash script called pan-daemon for it to kill just so it would run it's uninstall script.15:31
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keriovi__: oh yeah, maemo-pan is broken15:33
NIN101if you got it from extras-devel you can't complain.15:33
kerioarcheyDevil: k, one sec15:33
archeyDevilkerio: Thanks :)15:33
ShadowJKI suspect it was just copypaste from diablo repo15:34
archeyDevilIs possible I typo'd that I did type it into irc lol15:35
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archeyDevilLooks right ^_^ Just double checked..15:35
archeyDevilkerio: Do you have a script working on it now or are you writing one up? :)15:37
vi__NIN101: I guess not.15:37
vi__However I have never come across a package that is so broken.15:38
kerioarcheyDevil: wrote one now15:38
jaskacan the lock code be non-numeric?15:39
kerioi hope not15:39
jaskai ran that hash thru 1-8 digits without match15:39
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kerioarcheyDevil: are you sure about the hash15:39
ShadowJKthere was alot of "let's push all the diablo packages to fremantle autobuilder and see what comes out" going on in 2009, and also the other way around15:39
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archeyDevilkerio: Yes.. :/15:39
keriojaska: the lock code can be 10 digits afaik15:40
kerioor possibly even more idk15:40
vi__ShadowJK: well that was silly.15:40
jaskaif its normal crypt then it should be limited to 8?15:41
vi__lol, this is real crypt.  not lnman.15:41
jaskai mean the original unix-style crypt15:41
NIN101afaik it is normal crypt(3)15:41
ShadowJKeven totally irrelevant things like the fmradio for N800 which only works on N800 got pushed to fremantle autobuilder lol15:41
keriooh, right15:41
keriothen it's just 815:41
archeyDevilkerio: I need code quick... Dad's kicking me off the computer -.-15:42
vi__I just want to have an easily set up IP network over bluetooth to stream music and ssh.15:42
jaskaecho root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1):15:42
vi__Is that so much to ask?15:42
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archeyDevilkerio: No luck?15:54
jaskathat cant be a crypt(3) for a 1-8 digit numeric key15:54
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jaskarun echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1):15:54
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archeyDeviljaska: root:la26fFhFNAzb6:15:58
archeyDevilkerio: ^_^15:58
archeyDevilSorry. Blame the term font :P15:59
kerioi don't even15:59
archeyDevill -> 115:59
archeyDevilThankyou :D15:59
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archeyDevilGood night everyone :)16:05
archeyDevilThanks again kerio jaska16:05
jaskatakes 36s to test every key 1 to 8 digits on my crummy laptop <.<16:05
kerioSO SAEF16:06
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fizzieThe lock UI accepts up to 10 digits; so I set up a 10-digit lock code, before someone mentioned the crypt thing somewhere, and true enough, it accepts any 8-10 digit string as correct as long as the first 8 digits match.16:16
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StyXmannice :|16:18
keriothe same is true for user and root's passwords16:21
fizzieAlso is it just me, or does whatever happens to have been on-screen before autolocking flash briefly visibly on the screen before the unlocking keypad UI plasters itself on top? The inherent information leak there really bugs me, even though it's not exactly likely it'll actually be a problem one day.16:21
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chem|st~slap lowkyalur16:32
* infobot slaps lowkyalur, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!16:32
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merlin1991Pali: pong17:09
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Palimerlin1991, did you tested u-boot?17:09
merlin1991uh shit I knew I forgot something17:09
merlin1991Pali: I'll do it right away17:10
Paliok :-)17:10
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Palinow I rewritten assembler code for relocation and fixed reusing some atags17:10
Palibut I do not think that this is your problem... (ubifs does not depend on nolo)17:11
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Paliso when I find out where is problem, I will try to fix it and release new uboot deb17:12
merlin1991btw what information should I gather?17:12
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merlin1991atags from stock kernel, hw revision and atags from rescueos?17:16
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Palimerlin1991, hwrev, atags from kernel booted directly (without u-boot) and atags from rescueos kernel booted from u-boot18:36
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freemangordonguys, need some help with gcc inline assembly, could someone confirm/not that lock/unlock macroses do the same as old (commented) ones
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Palijacekowski, can you look at it? ^^18:55
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Paliping jonwil19:18
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Palijonwil, do you have some documentation about systemui?19:20
jonwilnot really19:21
Palisystemui has some battery plugin (or someting like that)19:21
Paliand I still do not know what is systemui doing...19:21
jonwilthe only systemui plugins I know of are tklock (touchscreeen/keypad lock including slide-to-unlock screen)19:22
jonwilpower key menu19:22
jonwildevice lock (with passcode)19:22
jonwilalarm dialog19:22
jonwilemergency (presumably for doing emergency calls fast when you need to)_19:23
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jonwilsplash screen (unsure what this one does)19:23
jonwilmode change19:23
jonwiland acting dead19:23
jonwilno idea about the workings of most of em19:23
jonwilI know bits and pieces about tklock but that about it19:23
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Palijonwil, but do you know something about systemui daemon?19:26
jonwilalmost nothing19:27
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zsolthi an n900 and set up to usb otg20:29
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zsoltgot an y cable,a usb charger,a usb hub with mouse and keyboard20:30
zsoltif i select usb host mode with charging it refuses to set to that mode.error:charger attached20:30
zsoltneed some advice20:31
keriozsolt: mind you, it's not usb otg20:32
kerioit's usb host20:32
keriozsolt: are you using h-e-n or usbmode?20:32
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zsoltusing usb mode20:33
zsolti'd like to charg my phone and empower devices too20:34
zsoltat the same time20:34
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zsoltwhy can't charge my phone and use usb host mode at the same time?20:37
keriozsolt: which charger are you using?20:39
zsoltgot a usb charger20:39
zsoltput charger to the thinner cable in the Y20:40
kerioyou MUST use a usb charger that shorts the D+/- and that provides at least 1A20:40
infobotThe key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.20:40
kerioto be fair you should only need the 1A20:40
keriowhat's the error message that you're getting?20:40
zsoltit provides 1000mA20:40
keriotry only connecting the hub first20:40
kerioPali: *poke for help*20:43
keriozsolt: which kernel are you using?20:43
keriothe charging module is kinda broken in KP51r120:43
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kerioinstall kp5220:46
zsoltwhich repo?20:46
zsoltthank you20:46
kerioask Pali20:46
keriofor the latest version20:47
keriohe made some TMO posts but then he said he'd make some more updated packages20:47
kerioor something20:47
Paliwhat is problem?20:47
kerioPali: problem with KP51 and usb host while charging20:47
keriohe should use KP52, right?20:47
Palikp51 working too20:48
kerioi thought the kp51 charging module was kinda borked20:48
Palithere was problem with unloading module (caused reboot), but fixed in kp51r120:48
kerioyeah but there was a problem with the sysfs entries too20:49
zsoltso is the charging error fixed with r1?20:49
Paliand problem that driver reported some bad values in sysfs (only outputs)20:49
kerioi thought some were only changeable once20:49
keriobut ok20:49
Paliecho someting > someting worked fine20:49
Palionly cat something returing bad values20:49
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zsoltthank you,now it works well21:05
keriowait, what did we do? :o21:05
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Woody14619jaffa: ping21:21
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zsoltthank you so much!bye21:27
zsoltgotta go21:27
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Palimerlin1991, did you tested uboot?22:12
merlin1991Pali: I'll give you the full set of info tomorrow22:14
Palimerlin1991, thanks22:14
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kerioPali: where are the new kp52pre debs?22:24
keriodid you make them already?22:24
Palikerio, new not yet22:25
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bullet9mmhi all22:58
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bullet9mmmaybe someone can help I flashed my n900 and, after installing CSSU always have this error on apt-get update:   ....any idea?23:04
merlin1991bullet9mm: everyone has that problem23:07
merlin1991KEYEXPIRED is the hint there ;)23:07
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muks_hi all. is there rsync access to
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muks_(rsync doesn't work. is it possible to rsync it some way.. maybe it's running on a non-standard port?)23:09
bullet9mmmerlin1991:  I found this works?23:10
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maschi just got my N900 and flashed the current image (20.2010.36-2). Everything seems to work fine but the default browser failes to load any webpage23:19
maschemail on the other side works23:19
bullet9mmI'm sorry if my questions sounds stupid but I am new to maemo...there are any external/unofficial repos that provide the same software of the ones wich has issues?23:19
maschentitled: indeed, i testet firefox before flashing and it working super fast23:20
entitledMaybe an issue with the operator/sim-specific settings23:20
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maschentitled: i'm using wlan23:20
maschhow can i use ping?23:22
merlin1991bullet9mm: the repos still work, it just complains, that the singing key is expired23:22
merlin1991which should have no direct affect on using apt-get23:23
merlin1991masch: ping only works for root23:23
merlin1991it's not setuid because it's part of the busybox binary which would make stuff like cp rm ... setuid root aswell23:23
maschoh okay23:24
maschso i need to reflash with --set-rd-flags to be able to become root?23:25
merlin1991no need to reflash just run flasher with the commando23:25
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merlin1991or install rootsh from the repos to enable "root" as a commando23:25
maschwhat repos? i just wanted to install cssu because the default applicantion manager offers nothing :D23:26
merlin1991and what happens if you let it run a bit?23:27
merlin1991default app manager is uberslow23:27
maschfirst time it told me that there is nothing instantly23:27
maschnow its loading23:27
maschohh icons, nice :D23:27
muks_a notice that i'm mirroring (rate limited to less than 1 request per second) using http instead23:28
muks_just the fremantle related bits of repository.maemo.org23:28
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merlin1991muks_: ;)23:29
muks_this is for  (i had posted this video on the maemo forums some time ago:
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muks_merlin1991: does that mirror using apt? :)23:31
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merlin1991it mirrors with apt-mirorr :D23:31
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maschentitled: merlin1991: installed opera mini, browsing works23:31
muks_i'll keep the wget mirror run going as i'm first getting it to a server that runs an RPM distro; will rsync from there locally after that23:32
merlin1991btw I just saw the webpage, did you check what the cordia guys have till now?23:32
muks_merlin1991: yes, i talk to smoku sometimes, but haven't talked to him for a a couple of months23:32
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keriomuks_: that video is pretty :323:38
bullet9mmsorry merlin1991 ...but when you tell "which should have no direct affect on using apt-get" I think you are wrong...when I use apt-get to install something that depends on the repos which has expired key I cannot continue with installation.23:40
kerioof course you can23:40
keriothe packages are just not verified23:40
kerioit asks you23:40
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merlin1991you should be able to install with anyway typing y23:41
muks_kerio: thank you; if akira works out, it'll be a libre distro like debian is.. it is a lot of work, but i really like the gtk+ fremantle and ever since it was shutdown (moving to harmattan back then), i've thought that someone should maintain it23:43
keriomuks_: isn't it like h-d for tizen?23:43
muks_kerio: do you mean the cordia project?23:44
kerioyes, that23:44
muks_akira will be a deb based distribution, much like fremantle. there are also different goals from codia, but i think we'll share work where there's common overlap23:45
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muks_we both worked on getting gtk3 libhildon up and running (though there is still a lot of work left before a gtk3 transition can be looked at.. things like sapwood don't work for gtk3)23:47
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muks_it needs more developers like smoku to help him.. running a largish distro is a lot of work. it look many people to pull this off at nokia.23:53
infobotmuks_ meant: it needs more developers like smoku to help him.. running a largish distro is a lot of work. it took many people to pull this off at nokia.23:54
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maschanyone knows a good twitter client for maemo?23:59
merlin1991tweego is quite nice23:59
merlin1991and the fastest to boot, though it still does not do native retweets23:59

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