IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-10-04

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* ShadowJK still uses his N800 almost daily00:04
* ampharos fistbumps ShadowJK 00:05
ampharosi need to get a new battery00:05
ampharosmine is shot; drains fast and uses 40% of it starting up00:05
ShadowJKthe original batteries were never very good00:06
ampharosi got mine in about 2010, used00:07
ampharoscheaper than an N810 or N900 (those go for a lot!)00:07
ShadowJKon the third battery for my N810 now00:07
ShadowJKI've gotten new ones when they've gone down to about 60% of original capacity00:07
ampharosbut I'd love to use it more, but batteries :(00:08
ShadowJKbut it's hard to find a BP-5L that looks vguely trustworthy00:08
ampharosi only order from canada00:09
ampharosshipping is like $40 from US00:09
ampharosand no matter where customs00:09
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ampharosI don't trust HK batteries00:10
ampharosI want a charge, not a chemical grenade waiting to go off00:10
ShadowJKcustoms is 0 here if total customs fees would be less than 10E00:11
ShadowJKcustoms fee would mostly be VAT of 23%, so if battery costs less than 10/.23, no customs charges00:11
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trumeefreemangordon, ping00:20
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freemangordontrumee: pong00:20
trumeefreemangordon, E: Version '21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb0' for 'mp-fremantle-community-pr' was not found00:21
trumeefreemangordon, i tried to run cssu shell script00:21
freemangordontrumee: edit that to be 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb300:21
freemangordonin the script that is00:22
freemangordonyou've waited too long to update :D00:22
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trumeefreemangordon, thanks it is installing now.00:25
freemangordonnp. and night00:25
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DocScrutinizer05trumee waiting too long to update, incredible, impossible ;-D00:29
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SkryDocScrutinizer05: you wrote that battery charging script? if so do you remember anything about those status values?01:55
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SpeedEvilwhat about them?02:12
SpeedEvilI remember an overview02:12
ShadowJKthere's an overview in the script02:14
ShadowJKatleast charge2 and charge3, iirc02:15
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Skryjust need to know the meaning of 0x4002:20
SpeedEvillook up the data sheet02:20
ShadowJKin a function called decode_status() no less :)02:21
SpeedEvilor that02:21
ShadowJKI've never seen 0x4002:24
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* ShadowJK checks datasheet for what sspin is02:25
Skryyeah, me neither before today02:25
Skryand I dont have charge 2 or 302:27
ShadowJK"enable stat pin function"02:28
ShadowJKthe default is 1, but it's turned off by bme and charge*.sh02:29
ShadowJKthe chip probably got reset to defaults at some point02:29
Skryhmm, you know what that stat pin function is? I mean, is it safe to charge even if the status is 0x4002:31
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SkryI started getting that when I fixed loading order of musb modules02:33
internetishardman... after fixing the messages database (el-v1.db) my n900 is about 4x as responsive02:33
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internetishardjust like new02:33
befordlink internetishard?02:35
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internetishardlink to what?02:41
befordto check how to fixe the messages database :P02:42
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internetishardmine was corrupt02:43
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internetishardwhat I did was move el-v1.db to my computer, run an sqlite3 check (pragma integrity_check;)02:44
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internetishardif that says it isn't okay, then you can probably benefit from dumping it to a new sql database, and then creating a new db02:44
internetishardthat's all I did really02:45
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DocScrutinizer05Skry: iirc status pin is the one causing amber steady LED02:47
Skryok, weird02:47
DocScrutinizer05so basically it's mirroring the status of OTG input, which in turn is driven by 1707 PHY fastcharger detect - IIRC02:48
DocScrutinizer05bme is disabling it since bme and relatives are managing indicator LED patterns via system (MCE)02:49
HurrianIsn't there a sysfs entry to upload patterns into?02:49
DocScrutinizer05but that's related to LP5523 LED controller chip, not bq24150 battery charger chip02:51
DocScrutinizer05both share the (amber, aka red and green) indicator LED02:51
DocScrutinizer05during emergency charging you see steady amber from bq24150, via status pin, but as soon as bme starts up (actually as soon as mce starts up) this will change, and LP5523 controls the complete LED while bq24150 is supposed to "shut up" and leave LED alone02:53
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover02:53
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SkryDocScrutinizer05: so is it safe to charge even when the status is 0x40 instead of 0x90 ?02:57
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ShadowJKstatus pin output and otg input are unrelated03:03
ShadowJK0x40 indicates no charging03:03
ShadowJKit should go away when script is restarted..03:04
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DocScrutinizer05yes, it's always safe to charge03:08
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: quite possible, I have forgotten about some details03:09
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: tough I don't think status pin signals charging (in autonomous mode) when OTG pin doesn't detect D+- short03:10
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SkryDocScrutinizer05: ok, thank you.03:21
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ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; it does03:52
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: my autologin worked ^___^09:12
keriowithout actually using my own ip09:12
keriojust a valid one, i think09:12
kerioICD feature request: a textbox for the command to run after connecting to a particular connection09:13
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entitledSo, bought a new polarcell and it reports 12xx mAh as full charge. Is that accurate or do I need to change something?11:42
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Hurrianentitled, try calibration11:47
Hurrian12xx mAh is terrible11:47
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vi_also, why not a CSUD?11:52
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vi_wifi vs bluetooth power use; discuss.12:46
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Cor-Aihaha  short url :p12:50
int_uaCan anyone suggest where does marmistrz uploads libraries in the first place. He says it's been uploaded, but I can't see it in his repo:
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vi_Is that any better?12:51
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vi_int_ua: literally no idea.12:53
int_uainteresting document...12:54
vi_uh-oh12:54, server certificate has expired...12:54
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vi_kerio: ping12:59
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teotwakiIn our callcentre solution, we have a mode that keeps the agent's phone connected to our system the whole time, so we don't have to ring out to them continuously, as soon as a new call arrives13:05
teotwakiThe customer just created an "issue" in our tracker, saying they didn't understand why the phone wouldn't ring. We explained that the line was kept active (nearly) all day, she replied, saying she didn't understand why we couldn't make her phone ring, without hanging up.13:06
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GGonas if it isnt bad enough when it is hung up?13:10
GGonnow shewants it yo ring while active?13:10
int_uakp52 saves batteries:
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vi_teotwaki: ...PSDN does not work that way.13:12
teotwakivi_: no shit?13:12
vi_no, none.13:13
vi_also I meant pstn.13:13
teotwakivi_: You think you have to explain basic PSTN to a VoIP engineer? ;)13:13
teotwakiMost people just don't understand telephony.13:13
vi_But using the wrong acronym was annoying me.13:14
vi_most people are useless farting skittles that are incapable of the slightest problem solving and lateral thinking.13:14
int_uaspeaking of telephony: what are the use-cases for asterisk on N900?13:15
teotwakiI don't think it works, does it?13:15
int_uahaven't tried13:15
teotwakiI mean, it doesn't interface with the actual phone module13:15
vi_int_ua: Lets say I want to set up my own ad-hoc wifi telephone network with NO GSM support.13:15
vi_Easy, run asterisk on the N900, set yourself up as an acess point and set all your clients to use SIP.13:16
vi_Granted it would be very short range...13:17
int_uaand with VPN?13:17
vi_int_ua: I am pretty sure most symbian phones support VPN and SIP out of the box.13:18
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DocScrutinizer51teotwaki: you can't send an INVITE when session established?14:20
DocScrutinizer51(not that this would usually make any sense :-P)14:20
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DocScrutinizer51adasterisk on n900 always felt *extremely* silly to me14:23
DocScrutinizer51prolly ported by some dumbass who didn't get it that SIP clients don't need local *14:24
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Lava_CroftDocScrutinizer51: you have any knowledge about media player?14:30
Lava_Croftit seems that sometimes, at random intervals, it empties/screws up its buffer when streaming audio14:30
Lava_Crofthappens with both stock and OMP14:30
Lava_Croftits so annoying that i switched to KMplayer14:30
Lava_Croftit happens on 2g, 3g, wifi14:31
DocScrutinizer51then it's MAFW14:31
Lava_Crofti figured14:31
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Lava_Croftmost of the time it doesnt automagically fill it again either14:31
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DocScrutinizer51I've seen that on video playback, yes14:32
DocScrutinizer51bbl, sorry14:33
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teotwakiDocScrutinizer05: you can, but it won't make any phone ring. Plus, remember this is PSTN, so either you get a session progress (183) signal back, or you don't get squat.14:46
FlameReaperDocScrutinizer51: I recall there was a tweak involving /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini14:55
FlameReaperHow much good would it do me without it enabled?14:56
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DocScrutinizer51never heard of15:08
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vi_kerio: ping15:09
keriothe autologin works ^___^15:09
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DocScrutinizer51you told that15:10
kerionot to vi_15:10
kerionot everything is about you, joerg15:10
DocScrutinizer51anyway it' s quite illy15:10
DocScrutinizer51silly, or ill15:10
DocScrutinizer51if they don't need that IP, WTF is it there?15:11
keriobut i don't want to risk removing it15:12
kerioautologin would stop working!15:12
DocScrutinizer51permanently eternally?15:13
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DocScrutinizer51for everybody?15:13
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Lava_CroftIt enabled HW accel15:22
Lava_Croftfor h-d15:22
Lava_Croftok i give up15:22
FlameReaperIt's okay, I understand15:23
FlameReaperI remembered the effect it had though15:23
Lava_CroftFor me it smoothed the transitions15:23
FlameReaperand now I remember why HD would hang during transitions15:23
Lava_Croftyes, that could happen too15:24
Lava_Croftit differs per device it seems15:24
Lava_CroftI have used it for years, without problems15:24
FlameReaperand nothing short of a power cycle can help it...15:24
Lava_Croftafter a reflash, i forgot to re-enable it and after months i didnt notice any difference15:24
Lava_Croftso i just left it disabled, which it was for a reason in the first place:)15:24
Lava_Croftaww poor PS Vita scene15:25
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FlameReaperI really want to find a used N900 where I can OC it on speeds at least 1GHz15:25
FlameReaperwhere its stable threshold is around that speed15:26
Lava_Crofti run my 2nd n900 at n900 mhz15:26
Lava_Croftso far the only thing it will probably do is decrease its lifetime15:26
FlameReaperI check for OC stability with the MyPaint app15:26
Lava_Crofti check it by using the device normally15:26
FlameReaperif it cannot run on a certain clock speed15:26
FlameReaperthen it's a sign I can't run the device on that speed15:26
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!16:01
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entitledvi_: didn't find the scud and the battery test topic said the polarcell is best available (and I live in europe)16:24
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fastaAfter a flash my phone appears to have an 'operator lock'.16:51
fastaIs that easy to remove?16:51
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fastaNever mind; it seems it's just a design UI failure.16:54
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vi___freemangordon: ping17:32
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teotwakiBoss: "When did you plan on leaving on holiday? How many days do you have left?"18:21
teotwakiMe: "This monday, 11 days"18:21
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teotwakiBoss: "So from the 15th 'till the 24th?"18:22
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teotwakiMe: "How on earth did you calculate that?"18:22
teotwakiBoss: "Poorly."18:22
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DocScrutinizer51yay, feierabend18:29
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keriois there a way to disable all the transitions?18:36
keriosetting the duration to 0 doesn't actually disable them18:36
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vi___kerio: ping18:56
keriowtf do you want18:57
vi___you, to be a little more civil sometimes -_-18:58
keriohi vi___! how's it going?18:58
vi___you played with BT PAN did'nt you?18:58
merlin1991gotta love the picture on this article:
kerioi din't18:58
vi___well that concludes that then!18:59
vi___as for transissions, there is a lot more you can do apart from reducing times.19:00
vi___kerio: did you try to install bluez-utils?19:00
deepyWhy is it a new operating system based on meego? backwards compatibility too painful?19:00
vi___merlin1991: ...on an n950?19:01
keriovi___: i just want to disable them19:01
kerioanyway, no19:01
keriowhat do they have?19:02
kerioi thought the utils were in bluez already19:02
merlin1991vi___: the best thing about it is the icon set, it's harmattan icons with different colours :P (on a n950)19:02
vi___merlin1991: I did not see thta closely.19:02
merlin1991deepy: they need to invent their own aegis that breaks backwards compatibility ;)19:03
vi___merlin1991: do you think the picture is from jolla?19:03
merlin1991vi___: nope, but it's so badly shopped19:03
vi___9/10 for effort.19:03
keriovi___: i mean, i have rfcomm and sdptool installed19:04
vi___does that mean the jolla big reveal is going to be next month?19:04
keriofrom PR1.3.119:04
vi___kerio: they are from bluez?19:04
keriobut luf said he has an updated bluez that maybe works19:04
keriovi___: i suppose so19:04
keriobluez: /usr/bin/rfcomm19:04
vi___merlin1991: I am prepaired for massive disappoint.19:05
vi___Just like the N9 announcement.19:05
vi___Is there any wiki entry on N900 DUN?19:05
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vi___That is using another mobile phone as a DUM for the N900.19:06
vi___wvdial style.19:06
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keriovi___: you could use wvdial19:08
kerioeverything like that is basically "do whatever you'd do on normal unixes and then launch the dummy network so stuff that wants ICD to tell them it's ok works fine"19:09
vi___how to get the dummy network?19:10
vi___also, there is no wvdial for maemo19:10
freemangordonmerlin1991: now you have some powers over maemo repos, would you mind to PURGE ALL TRACES OF BATTERYPATCH AND SPEEDPATCH. Thanks in advance :P19:11
merlin1991I still have none19:11
freemangordonhmm, is council aware?19:11
vi___freemangordon: !19:12
vi___a moment of your time if you have?19:12
freemangordongo on19:12
vi___my n900 still crashes when playing some videos with SR enabled.19:13
freemangordonwhich peofile? dsp?19:13
vi___I set dsp_boost to 25019:13
vi___I dont have a profile...19:13
vi___I know you are going to say to low voltage.19:13
* ShadowJK 's spare n900 is only stable with boot and default profile, iirc :)19:13
freemangordonhmm. dmesg?19:14
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vi___let me give you the details.19:14
freemangordonShadowJK: default enables SR ;)19:14
vi___frequency locked to 900MHz19:14
vi___dsp_boost to 25019:14
ShadowJKI also noticed it has lower voltage at 500 and 600?19:14
freemangordonShadowJK: does not matter as SR is enabled19:15
vi___my 900 has a voltage of around 58-6019:15
vi___at 900mhz19:15
freemangordonvi___: is it stable with default and dsp profiles? what frequency has your DSP @ 720,805,850 nad 900?19:15
vi___DSP speed is 600MHz19:17
freemangordonstill using compcahce?19:17
vi___no, I turned it off to try and isolate the cause of the issue.19:18
freemangordonvi___: man, WTF is that? 600:47,600 720:51,600 805:53,600 900:60,60019:18
vi___obviously wrong.19:19
freemangordonany more questions? :P19:19
vi___but It still crashes when the frequency is locked to 900MHz19:19
freemangordonSmartReflex VDD1=0, VDD2=019:19
vi___i.e. no other freq is used.19:19
freemangordonraise the voltage by 1-219:20
freemangordonvi___: why do you need 900?19:20
vi___yeah, I switched it off earlier to isolate the problem.19:20
freemangordonand it still crashes?19:20
freemangordonwith SR off?19:20
vi___with SR off, there is no crash19:20
freemangordonvi_: does it crash with default profile?19:21
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vi___...I don't have KPS>19:21
freemangordonwell, install it19:22
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freemangordonvi_: still here?19:23
vi__stupid ctrl key got stuck19:24
vi__on BT keyboard19:25
freemangordonvi__: do you still use compcache?19:25
freemangordondo not :;19:25
vi__but it is so sweet.19:25
freemangordonvi__: install KPS and load default profile and test. if it does not crash load dsp profile and test. if it crashes boost DSP voltage19:26
vi__is see dsp profile misses out 900MHz, why is that?19:26
freemangordonif it still crashes lower your DSP frequency19:26
vi__i see dsp profile misses out 900MHz, why is that?19:27
freemangordonvanadis: because 900 is too high19:27
freemangordonvi__: ^^^19:27
vi__oh, I was under the impression 900 was working.  There we go then!19:28
freemangordonvi__: it works. But for MPU. DSP is not guaranteed to work19:28
freemangordonput 580 instead of 600 for DSP and you will see19:29
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freemangordonvi__: my goal was to have absolutely stable SR for stock frequencies. And I hink that is achieved19:30
vi__for stock, almost certainly.19:30
freemangordonstable SR when OCing DSP is possible, but it will lead to bigger battery drain for those with "good" devices.19:30
vi__but we users are greedy for bogomips.19:31
freemangordonwell, your device does not fall in that category, so your option is to lower your DSP frequency19:31
freemangordonthough you'd better test dsp profile first19:31
freemangordonanything above 720 drastically reducec your battery life. 900 is too much now we have thumb ;)19:32
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freemangordonvi__: if it was not for HD I will run my device on stock speeds19:33
vi__actually anything above 600.19:33
freemangordonwell, 720 is not THAT bad19:33
keriohildon-desktop, or high definition?19:33
vi__I plotted the power use.19:33
freemangordoni remember19:34
freemangordonkerio: high def19:34
vi__kerio: High def19:34
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DocScrutinizer05vi__: you're aware that Nokia's HW-wizard extraordinaire warned all developers on an early N900 community meeting to lock CÜU freq to SIXHUNDRED? otherwise device would fry19:42
freemangordonto LOCK on 600?19:42
DocScrutinizer05[2012-10-04 18:14:41] <vi___> frequency locked to 900MHz19:43
vi__DocScrutinizer05: I do not normally do that.19:43
vi__It was just to test the device at 900.19:44
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: my question was: did Nokia's HW wizard recommend to LOCK@600?19:44
freemangordonor to not go higher than19:44
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: lrn2read19:44
DocScrutinizer05warned all developers ... to lock CÜU freq to 60019:45
DocScrutinizer05well, maybe my english is bad19:45
DocScrutinizer05He said "don't do izt! EVER!"19:45
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freemangordonaah, DON'T LOCK it. maybe you'll want to read what you wrote. lrn2write19:47
DocScrutinizer05I guess in English you can positively warn somebody he actually _shall_ do sth19:47
DocScrutinizer05sorry, pardon my french19:47
vi__is this the same HW wizard that is responsible for the USB socket?19:48
DocScrutinizer05in German you can only warn so somebody does NOT do some particular thing19:48
DocScrutinizer05vi__: leaving it up to you to finf out19:48
ShadowJKit was popular in diablo days to disable cpufreq, because cpufreq was pretty slow and it affected responsiveness significantly. When N900 came out they warned against doing the same on n900, as n900 cpu's declared life decreases a few magnitudes running at the overclock to 600 vs 50019:48
freemangordonvi__: well, besides USB socket Nokia did a descent job with N90019:49
ShadowJKand the cellmo death19:49
freemangordonyeah :(19:49
vi__or the tiny backup battery.19:50
freemangordonvi__: that's not Nokia19:50
vi__or the easy to wear out slider.19:50
freemangordonnever heard of that19:51
vi__dont you found your slider is...slack now?19:51
* ShadowJK hasnt noticed19:51
vi__are you right handed?19:51
freemangordonme too, and my slider is ok19:51
vi__hold your n900 in your R/hand.19:51
ShadowJKmy N810 slider doesnt slide straight19:52
vi__open the slider with the same hand using the thumb on the corner.19:52
freemangordonvi__: and?19:52
ShadowJKI always have thumb on middle?19:52
vi__now do the same with your left.19:52
freemangordonvi__: it is ok19:52
freemangordonno slack here19:52
vi__maybe I have brutal thumbs.19:52
ShadowJKif I do it in the corner, right hand corner opens 2mm before left moves19:53
ShadowJKon left, moves slughtly less before right side moves19:53
vi__the only way to fix it is to bend a bit of the end stop in the slide mechanism.19:54
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freemangordonthe same happens on my second device, which is not used19:54
freemangordonor almost the same19:54
Cor-Aimine does that too, started doing it after i droped it on a concret floor19:54
vi__concrete will do that to a phone.19:55
DocScrutinizer05and as long as it snaps into end positions nicely, I don't see a problem, nor a reason to BEND anything :-o19:55
freemangordonaah, mine had this experience 3 times :D19:55
vi__DocScrutinizer05: I am obsessive.19:55
vi__in other news...19:55
Cor-Aivi__: yupp, everytime! :/19:55
vi__if you disable screen autolock, xorg never goes the fuck to sleep.19:55
freemangordonvi__: deffinitely there is no problem with the slider, I have this device since 02.201019:55
DocScrutinizer05in other news, how do you enjoy my bomb on council election?19:56
freemangordonhmm, seems I missed the party19:56
freemangordonlemme see19:56
ShadowJKmy N810 slider has enough play that it can't be reliable opened with force on a corner :)19:56
vi__I lost track...19:56
vi__ShadowJK: thats what I meant, my 2 previous n900 went like that.19:56
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vi__DocScrutinizer05: seems reasonable.19:57
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: actually sound reasonable.19:57
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vi__but running n900@900MHz just seems so right!20:01
kerioDocScrutinizer05: oh you :320:03
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vi__it is 14degrees in my house.20:14
vi__fuck this weather.20:14
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* Lava_Croft huggles his N9 some more20:17
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merlin1991just to add to the concrete discussion20:51
merlin1991my first n900 olst the emmc due to drop to concrete20:51
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fastaHow many hours does your n900 battery last if you do absolutely nothing, but wifi is on?21:00
keriofasta: you can calculate that21:01
kerioit also depends on the wifi powersaving working properly21:01
kerioand it depends on how you configure your router21:01
fastakerio: if I know a bunch of numbers, which I don't, yes.21:01
keriomerlin1991: hehe, did the rest work?21:01
fastakerio: also, I cannot calculate how long _yours_ last.21:02
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kerioWifi on with maximum powersaving. +~2 mA21:02
fastakerio: and voltage?21:03
keriobut it shouldn't change much21:03
fastakerio: uhm, you cannot calculate energy if you don't have extra information.21:04
kerioyou have information about the current though21:05
kerioand information about the charge in your battery21:05
fastaSpeaking of wiki, how can you turn it off completely?21:06
keriowell, it's off21:07
kerioif you don't connect to anything21:07
fastaI have the impression that because some applications want to connect, it automatically connects.21:07
keriooh, you can make them ask21:07
kerio...but asking triggers a scan21:07
fastaI don't want to make them ask.21:07
keriounload the wifi kernel module21:07
fastaI just want a global on/off button.21:07
keriothere are some GUIs for that21:07
fastakerio: please name one of them which doesn't suck.21:08
kerioyou want too much, now21:08
fastakerio: name one then?21:08
fastastill too much?21:08
keriowifi switcher or something like that21:08
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kerioi think it's one of the stupid ones, though21:08
kerioyou can make one with queen beecon21:09
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fastaDid any of your hardcore people replace the battery with some 'enhanced' one?21:24
ShadowJKiirc estel did21:25
ShadowJKand a bunch of people on forums21:25
vi__fasta: do not worry about the wifi.21:26
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vi__look on tmo for battery thread, you will find details of a 1500mah battery.21:26
fastavi__: I get about 4 hours of wifi I think, without actually using it.21:26
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vi__please elaborate21:27
ShadowJKthat's about what you get without wifi powersaving21:27
ShadowJKwifi connected but idle, and wifi powersaving working, and you'd get days21:27
fastaShadowJK: is wifi powersaving what I need to turn on on the router?21:27
vi__4 hours of battery life??21:28
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fastavi__: yeah, short life, isn't it?21:28
vi__Your phone is fucked.21:28
sixwheeledbeastgot a polarcell, much improvement on the stock nokia one21:28
vi__Complete reflash and start again.21:28
sixwheeledbeast4 hours! idle?21:28
fastavi__: how long is your battery life?21:29
vi__streaming music over wifi today i was burning off about 250mA21:29
fastasixwheeledbeast: with wifi on with one of the AP apps.21:29
vi__so that is about 5 hours.21:29
fastasixwheeledbeast: and the weather app.21:29
vi__constant music streaming.21:29
vi__potentially 6.21:30
fastaIs there some way to measure how much cycles the battery has had?21:30
vi__unless you have never changed battery/done learn mode then no.21:31
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vi__how old is your battery?21:36
fastavi__: between 1 and 2 years.21:37
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keriofasta: probably a combination of depleted battery, crappy router with non-working powersaving (or maybe you have windows PCs in the lan, they tend to spam the hell out of broadcast messages so powersaving doesn't work, pretty much), that widget that keeps exchanging data21:50
fastakerio: I think I have it in power hungry mode (the router), because previously it wasn't working at all.21:51
fastakerio: I will change that now.21:51
fastakerio: I can't really find the setting now. It's a relatively new router. I think it should support it.21:52
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kerioit's not something that you enable, really21:53
kerioyou do enable it on the n900 side21:53
kerioon the connection settings21:53
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keriodo you have windows PCs?21:53
fastakerio: not connected21:53
keriowere they connected?21:54
int_uaI haven't read the thread about post-Nokia era yet, does it mentions the repository with crash reporter, valgrind, etc? Is it called SDK-tool?s21:54
fastakerio: no21:54
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fastakerio: found the n900 setting21:56
fastakerio: will the lowest setting be enough to go through concrete?21:56
kerioput it at the maximum, but with powersaving21:56
fastakerio: it also works at the minimum \o/21:57
fastakerio: that's better, right?21:57
fastaI mean: I can imagine that under low power settings that it has to try 100 times and that's more costly.21:58
fastaBut probably not the case.21:58
fastaThere's one other thing which bother me about all the browsers in existence: they don't just remember the rendering of the previous page.22:01
fastaI would like a 'back button', which just goes back without contacting any server.22:01
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ShadowJKthe power saving setting has nothing to do with transmission power22:02
ShadowJKbut the one where you can pick 100mW or 10mW does affect transmission power, but has very little difference for power use22:02
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infobotmaemo-flashing is, like,
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: my uptime is awful23:20
keriobecause i keep rebooting to do BM backups23:20
keriothat's a good reason to reboot, right?23:21
DocScrutinizer05my uptime is horror, every single minute of it. So I ponder to pull the plug, at least for a few weeks, maybe months23:21
DocScrutinizer05stupid assholes all over the place23:21
kerio1) lol politics23:22
kerio2) *hug*23:22
* DocScrutinizer05 gors mirroring all repos, and say Fucj You Clowns23:22
* DocScrutinizer05 goes mirroring all repos, and say Fuck You Clowns23:23
keriowe'll have our own council! with blackjack and hookers!23:23
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kerioactually, let's skip the council and the blackjack23:23
DocScrutinizer05I got my private hooker, and I won't lent it away23:23
kerio'twas a futurama reference23:24
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