| kerio | freemangordon: i can't get a cursor to appear when i open a menubar menu | 00:00 |
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| deepy | kerio: I can't even bring it to work tomorrow D: | 00:00 |
| deepy | or on wednesday | 00:00 |
| deepy | very senior people coming in and I suppose it's not very professional to watch movies at work | 00:01 |
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| vi__ | kerio: extmou? | 00:02 |
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| kerio | yep | 00:03 |
| kerio | it works nicely | 00:03 |
| kerio | although microb doesn't like my mouse pointer | 00:03 |
| kerio | and i get the vibrator for all mouse events | 00:03 |
| kerio | so there's a noticeable "bzzzzzzzzzz" when i scroll up or down | 00:03 |
| kerio | oh come on, why is BME so dumb | 00:04 |
| kerio | bq27200 says the battery is at 45% | 00:04 |
| kerio | but the battery indicator is almost empty | 00:04 |
| vi__ | bme blows and you know that. | 00:04 |
| vi__ | scroll wheel is treated as a button event. | 00:04 |
| vi__ | what do you mean microb does not like it? | 00:05 |
| vi__ | WFM. | 00:05 |
| kerio | i mean that i can't seem to do anything with web pages | 00:06 |
| vi__ | click on stuff? | 00:06 |
| kerio | yeah, that | 00:07 |
| kerio | it doesn't work | 00:07 |
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| vi__ | come to think of it, I did not try that... | 00:08 |
| kerio | haha | 00:08 |
| vi__ | I tried right clicking. | 00:10 |
| vi__ | you want I try again? | 00:10 |
| kerio | no | 00:10 |
| kerio | i don't really care | 00:10 |
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| narcos | I can't seem to get this syntax right: | 00:54 |
| narcos | works --> osso-xterm -e "tail -f log.txt | cut -f 4,5" | 00:54 |
| narcos | not --> osso-xterm -e "tail -f log.txt | cut -d ',' -f 4,5" | 00:55 |
| narcos | cut -d \",\" neither | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, weird | 00:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | try cut -d \, -f 4,5 | 00:55 |
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Nope :( | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | try osso-xterm -e "echo tail -f log.txt | cut -d ',' -f 4,5" | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try osso-xterm -e "echo \"tail -f log.txt | cut -d ',' -f 4,5\"" | 00:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | check if "." is really what you want | 00:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err "." | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq ,,,,, | 00:57 |
| narcos | Nope | 00:58 |
| narcos | Pardon? :) | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | run echo tail -f log.txt | cut -d ',' -f 4,5 in an already opened shell | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -echo | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try delim=, osso-xterm -e "tail -f log.txt | cut -d $delim -f 4,5" | 01:00 |
| narcos | Nope doesn't work either | 01:02 |
| narcos | But yes "," is the correct delimiter if that's what you were asking? I can run the command from within a shell | 01:02 |
| narcos | Weird | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw what's the use of all that exercise? | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I can run osso-xterm -e date all day long, without any idea why I'm doing that | 01:04 |
| narcos | I've got an app that collects data, and writes it to file in .csv. The purpose of this is for the user to see some output of what's going on in the background | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 01:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, I see, tail -f | 01:04 |
| narcos | I could just output the whole line, but there's all kinds of superfluous data. Well, for the user anyway. | 01:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: are you sure you're right user in your osso-xterm for reading from log.txt | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | are you sure there's even such a thing like ./log.txt ? | 01:11 |
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: If I don't include the "-d" parameter it works | 01:11 |
| narcos | Outputing the whole line | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 01:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | If I had any log.txt I'd try to reproduce that problem here, but obviously in my ~user there isn't any | 01:12 |
| narcos | echo a,b,c,d,e,f > log.txt | 01:13 |
| narcos | Oh, also, perhaps I didn't properly explain what's "not working". The term doesn't open - it flashes open and then closes instantly. | 01:14 |
| narcos | Like it does when there's a syntax error | 01:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, same here | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# osso-xterm -e "sleep 10" <-works | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# osso-xterm -e "date && sleep 10" <-closes immediately | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, now I know... ;-P | 01:17 |
| narcos | heh | 01:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# osso-xterm -e "sh -c 'date && sleep 10'" | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | works | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xterm is no shell | 01:18 |
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| narcos | Ah, interesting | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xterm is a terminal, you pass a single executable as parameter, not a shell cmdline | 01:19 |
| narcos | I was pondering writing a one line script with the tail commands, and calling that from xterm | 01:19 |
| narcos | ah ok | 01:19 |
| narcos | Hmm, that 'date' command outputs worrying data | 01:20 |
| narcos | (didn't realise it was so late already) | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 01:20 |
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| narcos | Bash scripting gives me a headache. | 01:25 |
| narcos | Next iteration, all Python. | 01:25 |
| SpeedEvil | they sendmail.cf | 01:25 |
| SpeedEvil | try | 01:25 |
| narcos | BTW, I was asking earlier how a script could determine it's location on a Maemo device - this seems to work -> DIR=$(cd $(dirname "$0"); pwd) | 01:28 |
| narcos | (works regardless of where the script is called from, eg from a Desktop launcher) | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's wrong with DIR=$(dirname "$0") ? | 01:30 |
| SpeedEvil | :-) | 01:30 |
| narcos | I want the full path | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | i c | 01:33 |
| narcos | For the purpose of "source ./config" | 01:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | try readlink -f | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dirname $(readlink -f $0) | 01:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: ^^^ | 01:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: on maemo messybox there's even realpath . | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is the same like readlink -f . | 01:59 |
| narcos | DocScrutinizer05: Ahh, nice | 02:02 |
| narcos | Thanks! | 02:02 |
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| narcos | Hmm, can't set +x to files on the MMC | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no surprise | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no such think like +x bit in VFAT file permissions | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thing* | 02:19 |
| narcos | Didn't know that | 02:19 |
| narcos | Guess that makes sense though. | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should be able to start arbitrary binaries via `/lib/ld.so <binary>` | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or /lib/ld-linux.so* | 02:23 |
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| narcos | ah ok | 02:24 |
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| narcos | Meh, solar flares. | 02:38 |
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| * RST38h yawns | 03:33 | |
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| nox- | http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/01/texas-instruments-shutters-consumer-omap-lines/ | 04:38 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 04:44 |
| SpeedEvil | few days old now | 04:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | :-( | 04:45 |
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| ShadowJK | What's this "performance no longer matters" thing in that article about? | 05:04 |
| narcos | Zzz. Night * | 05:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: to a degree, the race to the bottom, and the fact that tablets are possibly fast enough | 05:10 |
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| ShadowJK | my android tablet received jelly bean update today. Now I'm wishing for double the ram and cpu :/ | 05:12 |
| ShadowJK | (It has quadcore 1.66Ghz Tegra and 1G ram) | 05:12 |
| SpeedEvil | indeed | 05:13 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm not sure I agree | 05:14 |
| SpeedEvil | I can certainly see why you'd hesitate in investing in a cut-throat area. | 05:14 |
| ShadowJK | Sure, but I don't buy the "fast eough" argument :) | 05:16 |
| SpeedEvil | I have pondered upgrading my nexus 7 to 2g | 05:17 |
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| robbiethe1st | See, this is where the waste of Android comes forth; when a 1ghz single-core processor and 256mb of ram can perform fast enough when loaded with a gpu-accellerated, true Linux OS, yet with 4x that in ram and processing power and Android... | 05:17 |
| SpeedEvil | still need to confirm stiff | 05:17 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 05:17 |
| SpeedEvil | I really want proper Linux on it, | 05:18 |
| SpeedEvil | and not in a chroot | 05:18 |
| robbiethe1st | No way to load Ubuntu natively? | 05:18 |
| robbiethe1st | Using the stock modules and a compatible kernel? | 05:18 |
| robbiethe1st | I mean, for the Allwinner A10-based tablets, that's how you do it. | 05:18 |
| SpeedEvil | sure. | 05:20 |
| SpeedEvil | no graphics though | 05:20 |
| SpeedEvil | aiui | 05:20 |
| SpeedEvil | I need to investigate properly. | 05:20 |
| SpeedEvil | but got boring stuff to do. writing 25 page documents with detailed case law arguing your disabilities is not fun. | 05:21 |
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| rantom | Hello | 11:25 |
| Cor-Ai | no | 11:26 |
| rantom | I was browsing the packages section in maemo.org and came across this | 11:26 |
| rantom | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/cssutransitionstuner/0.2.0/ | 11:26 |
| rantom | The karma is already over the required one so I have to ask why isn't that package uploaded to the extras? | 11:27 |
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| Hurrian | package maintainer still has to manually do so | 11:59 |
| Hurrian | IIRC auto-promote is not yet implemented | 11:59 |
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| rantom | Hmm, ok | 12:06 |
| rantom | According to his profile in tmo though: http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=27954 he's been off since 21.11.2011 | 12:07 |
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| Hurrian | bug X-Fade to promote it | 12:29 |
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| rantom | Done | 12:38 |
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| rantom | But thanks for the info. I thought promoting (to extras) was automatic | 12:38 |
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| grammoboy | is there a way to watch bbc with the n900? | 14:29 |
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| grammoboy | hm mplayer can't play the webm file form the new blender movie | 14:51 |
| grammoboy | mplayer on desktop does | 14:51 |
| grammoboy | too old ffmpeg probably | 14:52 |
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| grammoboy | is it possible to make a custom desktop shortcut? | 16:38 |
| grammoboy | also for root? | 16:38 |
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| andre__ | grammoboy, http://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format | 16:42 |
| grammoboy | andre__, ah ok thx | 16:43 |
| grammoboy | andre__, is it possible to run a command as root via such a desktop file? | 16:43 |
| andre__ | why would you need that? | 16:43 |
| grammoboy | for umount my sshfs / fuse filesystem | 16:44 |
| grammoboy | I play music from my server | 16:45 |
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| Skry | grammoboy: not exactly a proper solution but have you thought about installing minidlna to your server which would eliminate all sshfs and fuse configuration on client. | 16:52 |
| grammoboy | Skry, I bought a qnap ts 209 and like to install debian on it | 16:53 |
| grammoboy | Skry, I'm thinking about the best way to play multimedia from the server with my n900 | 16:54 |
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| grammoboy | Skry, till now it is sshfs fuse, but I read also about NFS, dunno what the best solution is | 16:54 |
| Skry | grammoboy: well, minidlna is working for me (runs on my desktop and streams music to n900 on wifeys pc) and is lightweight | 16:55 |
| Skry | and wifeys pc | 16:55 |
| Skry | and you'll get videos too via that :) | 16:57 |
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| Skry | i prefer that way over nfs/samba because it needs no client side configuration or user intervention | 16:58 |
| grammoboy | I've to do more research on that, thx for info | 17:00 |
| Skry | you're welcome. | 17:01 |
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| vi_ | spoofy: yo! | 17:59 |
| vi_ | why did you take down your nmap 6 deb? | 17:59 |
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| GGon | been using my n900 quite a bit tethered lately | 18:01 |
| GGon | mostly because of the keyboard | 18:01 |
| kerio | which keyboard? | 18:02 |
| kerio | bt or usb? | 18:02 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: plugins-base-extra is not in any repo, wtf | 18:26 |
| spoofy | vi_: couse I need to recompile it again | 18:27 |
| spoofy | with working zenmap | 18:27 |
| spoofy | and optify it | 18:27 |
| spoofy | Now I'm working on ruby1.9.3 and postgres9.2 | 18:28 |
| spoofy | I'm also making my image of maemo with many scripts. Something like pwniephone | 18:29 |
| spoofy | but better ;) | 18:29 |
| spoofy | Hope that lastest metasploit will work with ruby1.9.3 and postgres | 18:29 |
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| vi_ | spoofy: any chance you could make the deb available for people who do not care for zenmap? | 18:41 |
| vi_ | people like me? | 18:41 |
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| vi_ | I will email you a donut. | 18:41 |
| entitled | I wanna pizza roll | 18:42 |
| vi_ | how would that work? | 18:42 |
| vi_ | It would flop onto its side. | 18:42 |
| vi_ | cheese side down as well. | 18:43 |
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| vi_ | spoofy: I tried the old address on your server but it was not working. | 18:45 |
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| kerio | hi dudes | 18:51 |
| kerio | is there a good way to autologin to known hot spots that require a login from a browser? | 18:52 |
| vi_ | kerio: curl | 18:52 |
| kerio | no fucking shit | 18:52 |
| kerio | *auto*login | 18:52 |
| kerio | as in, something with ICD2 | 18:52 |
| vi_ | ICD2 deals with network adapters etc, not stupid html login pages. | 18:54 |
| vi_ | put a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/50_mynetworks | 18:54 |
| kerio | vi_: can i do that only when on a particular SSID? | 18:55 |
| vi_ | sure | 18:55 |
| vi_ | I have a script in there that adjust wifi power depending on what network I am on | 18:55 |
| kerio | neat | 18:55 |
| kerio | pastebin plskthx | 18:55 |
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| vi_ | You could make it do anything. | 18:55 |
| vi_ | curl for example. | 18:55 |
| vi_ | google curl wifi login. | 18:56 |
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| spoofy | vi_: try spoofy@os.pl ;) | 18:58 |
| kerio | yeah, yeah | 18:58 |
| kerio | i need the glue | 18:58 |
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| spoofy | vi_: sure - I'll make a .deb without zenmap for you ;) | 18:58 |
| spoofy | But first I must reinstall my desktop and sdk so please be patient | 18:59 |
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| kerio | vi_: srsly, pastebin dat | 19:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | pastebin? :-O this belongs to wiki! | 20:09 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | mo | 20:24 |
| kerio | vi_: you bitch, pastebin your script | 20:27 |
| kerio | it belongs in a museum! | 20:27 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: use your council powers to make him pastebin it! :c | 20:46 |
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| gregoa | kerio: here's something I've been using for a login page: http://paste.debian.net/195406/ | 20:58 |
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| gregoa | kerio: note that this was on debian and called from /etc/network/interfaces | 20:59 |
| kerio | goddammit i don't need the login mechanism i need the ifup.d glue | 20:59 |
| gregoa | kerio: well, that's left as an exercise for the reader :) [I'd have to look it up myself] | 21:00 |
| gregoa | kerio: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_scripting_with_the_ifupdown_system might help to find the variables passed to the scripts | 21:02 |
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| grammoboy | does setting off 'power save' improve the internet connnection? | 21:07 |
| grammoboy | what is good practice to get reliable internet connection for streaming video at home for instance? | 21:08 |
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| Lava_Croft | grammoboy: wifi? | 21:10 |
| grammoboy | Lava_Croft, yep | 21:10 |
| Lava_Croft | i use stock settings | 21:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | kills your battery with power save off. do you have unreliable connection? | 21:10 |
| Lava_Croft | yup, it does | 21:11 |
| grammoboy | I've turned powersaving up and it seems to improve the streaming | 21:11 |
| Lava_Croft | i never found a reason to turn off powersaving | 21:11 |
| grammoboy | *down | 21:11 |
| Lava_Croft | well, thats logical | 21:11 |
| Lava_Croft | power saving degrades performance | 21:11 |
| * grammoboy looking at a film from nas server | 21:12 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | can be the router if switching power saving off helps | 21:12 |
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| grammoboy | what could that be? | 21:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | i have trouble with ssh if power saving is on full on my home router but on another network no probs. | 21:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_%28PSM%29 | 21:15 |
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| grammoboy | hm | 21:16 |
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| kerio | is powersaving disabled when on charger? | 21:17 |
| grammoboy | it could also be 10 vs 100W | 21:19 |
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| grammoboy | hm it still runs smoothly with powersaving on, and 100 | 21:23 |
| grammoboy | ah now the film stops | 21:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | try Intermediate | 21:24 |
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| grammoboy | I do | 21:26 |
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| grammoboy | it might also depend on what you use for the multimedia on the server | 21:30 |
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| grammoboy | so far so good | 21:35 |
| grammoboy | intermediate | 21:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | PSM basically tells wlan rx how long to sleep until listening for next wakeup call from AP | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AP sends wakeup calls when there's data to transmit down to the client wlan device | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on AP side you can sometimes configure whether you want data-pending-msg get sent with each beacon, with every 2nd, every 10th or whatever | 22:15 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how is it called in ddwrt? | 22:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so: 1st set your AP to send at least 10 beacons / second. 2nd set DTIM=1 | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: ^^^ | 22:28 |
| kerio | i see | 22:28 |
| kerio | my DTIM is at 1 | 22:29 |
| ShadowJK | Would be interesting to plot poweruse vs beacon interval | 22:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | mm mm. | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | bacon interval. | 22:33 |
| kerio | SpeedEvil: 10 bacons/second | 22:33 |
| SpeedEvil | power use at normal intervals is pretty small though | 22:33 |
| kerio | *at least* | 22:33 |
| grammoboy | could someone hack maetronome and make bpm < 40 possible? 30 is a better starting point | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, most critical problem here to test it: reduce real data transfer to 0, so it won't mess up results | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grammoboy: what sucker hardcoded such lower limit into a metronome? | 22:41 |
| grammoboy | dunno | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hell, when I use a cumputerized metronome, then there's only one lower limit I'd maybe accept: 0.1 | 22:41 |
| grammoboy | 40 is a common value with 'real' metronomes | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5 difits is normal limit of an abacus | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | digits | 22:42 |
| grammoboy | agreed | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like my age old plan to come up with absolutely original slide rule simmulation | 22:44 |
| grammoboy | hm you can fiddle with the signature | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, is it qt? | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it is, then odds are the limit is in qt widget and changeable without a single line of patched code | 22:45 |
| grammoboy | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42420 | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just start qt-designer on the qt GUI of your metronome, check the dial for bpm, and check the lower limit in there. Change it from 40 to 1 and recompile | 22:46 |
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| grammoboy | maybe later | 22:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Can anyone help me setup Maemo5 targets in the latest QTSDK? | 22:59 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | found them | 23:05 |
| kerio | you're welcome! | 23:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ta | 23:07 |
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| vi__ | is there a simple method of determining how many minutes of telephone you have used in the month? | 23:39 |
| kerio | sure | 23:39 |
| kerio | don't talk | 23:39 |
| kerio | you'll then have used 0 minutes | 23:39 |
| vi__ | oh your hillarious. | 23:40 |
| vi__ | no wait. | 23:40 |
| vi__ | the other one. | 23:40 |
| vi__ | droll | 23:40 |
| vi__ | droll as fuck. | 23:41 |
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| ShadowJK | also how many minutes at each tariff | 23:42 |
| vi__ | ShadowJK: I mean like the gprs data counter. | 23:43 |
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