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* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if the "polite italian way" sounds like "EEEH cazo, stupido!"00:13
DocScrutinizer05;-P00:14
DocScrutinizer05dunno why, but somehow polite and italian in same sentence sounds weird00:15
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DocScrutinizer05maybe a lost-in-translation problem though00:16
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DocScrutinizer05or blame Berlusconi00:16
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Skrycant help but think italian spiderman00:16
kerioLOL RACISM00:19
kerioso funny00:19
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kerioamirite00:20
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GGonl'uomo ragno stupefacente00:23
GGon:-P00:24
kerioDocScrutinizer05: anyway, no00:27
kerioi just explained him how to install jacekowski's fmtxd00:27
kerioand i told him to not get his hopes up wrt fmtx range00:27
kerio...and then he asked me if i knew how to use cleven00:28
DocScrutinizer05yay :-D00:30
DocScrutinizer05which is when the real hacker tells with low voice "son, you're not ready to use it until you found out how to use it by yourself"00:31
GGonprogrammator?00:31
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kerioGGon: "programmatore" is the italian translation for "programmer"00:32
GGonis that like. the developer oracle?00:32
GGonoh00:32
DocScrutinizer05french is awesome: ordinateur00:33
GGonnow that i think about it... you don't hear the term "programmer" much00:33
GGonit's usually "developer"00:33
kerioor "coder"00:33
GGoni blame python :-P00:33
GGonyeah that too00:33
keriono u00:33
keriopython is awsum :<00:34
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GGonpython has far overreached its intended purpose :)00:34
kerioand yet...00:34
GGonwell... let me go outside. it's beautiful out there00:34
GGonbefore the world ends this year00:34
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DocScrutinizer05lol00:35
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Skryis it ending again? :o00:35
* DocScrutinizer05 turns a dial on the control panel of the big blue box00:35
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GGonSkry: according to some white guy who says the mayan calendar is ending00:35
GGondidn't you watch the ancient aliens special?? :-P00:35
DocScrutinizer05no, his mind is ending00:36
GGonin india aliens were flying around dropping atomic bombs on each other00:36
GGonwhich explains india00:36
GGon:)00:36
kerioDocScrutinizer05: is it the dial that gives me money?00:36
DocScrutinizer05kerio: the simulation is somewhat complex and fuzzy (literally). Not entirely clear if any side effect of that one dial might cause sudden money at your side00:37
SkryGGon: nah didn't watch it, lost interest after few episodes, the greek guy was awesome though.00:37
DocScrutinizer05funny enough in TV they show 13th floor00:38
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that might be a subtle endless recursion00:38
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GGonSkry: the author of chariots of fire?00:42
GGonheh00:42
GGonyeah.. rumor has it he was the last greek to have an actual occupation in the last 20 years00:42
Skryno doubt about that00:44
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DocScrutinizer05isn't that more like "in the next 20 years"?01:41
DocScrutinizer05or rathe "for the next..."01:42
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qwazixwhat build-depends should I have when autobuilder complains about  -lQtSensors17:24
qwazix?17:24
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Sicelofunny stuff happening to my N900.. i had 3 tabs open in Opera, and it froze. no button works now, and even backlight doesn't come on. Guess i'll have to remove battery21:22
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Siceloif only i was on wifi21:23
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DocScrutinizer05*sigh* @ foundation naming and bylaws threads21:33
DocScrutinizer05or the topic in general - poor council21:33
DocScrutinizer05(poor as in "I feel with you", not poor like in "not really good")21:34
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: also poor as in "without enough money"22:00
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fastaWhat's NitDroid exactly?22:58
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fastaCan I install Maemo and NitDroid both?22:59
tadzikit's Android for N900, as far as I understand it22:59
tadzikand yes, I think you can have both22:59
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tadziknever did it though22:59
DocPyrotizerfasta: you'll need some means to dualboot, for nitdroid23:00
fastaDocPyrotizer: and where do I get such means?23:00
fastaI didn't really see anyt documentation of NitDroid.23:01
DocPyrotizerwell, I for one never  even cared to search for such docs23:01
tadzikthere's this monster tmo thread containing (probably) everything23:02
fastaYou know what would be useful? A noise removal algorithm for tmo.23:02
tadzikhaha23:03
DocPyrotizersince I think N900 is a pretty poor android device23:03
fastaDocPyrotizer: I would only like to enable Whatsapp.23:03
DocPyrotizerand who wants android anyway23:03
fastaDocPyrotizer: (despite it being terrible and evil)23:03
tadziksome people do, apparently23:03
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DocPyrotizerwell, you are aware of the implications of dualbooting? It basically means you have to decide if you want android with whatsapp, or maemo withh all the rest (incl GPRS and wifi which might not work under android)23:07
sixwheeledbeastfasta: I believe there a wiki for that http://wiki.maemo.org/NITDroid_Port23:08
fastaDocPyrotizer: AFAIK, I only have to 'activate' something once via nitdroid.23:08
fastaDocPyrotizer: then when that works, Maemo can be used.23:08
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kerioDocPyrotizer: there's a whatsapp client for the n900, but the registration is broken23:14
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kerioso you need to run the actual android app to register23:14
kerioafter that, you're fine23:14
kerio(and it sends the IMEI, so you can't use another phone)23:15
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fastakerio: why can't it just send a fake IMEI?23:16
keriofasta: it's the registration that doesn't work23:16
keriosending a fake IMEI wouldn't help23:17
fastaDoes anyone know of any good IRC client with some advanced anti-spam features?23:18
tadzikhuh, I never felt a need for those on the IRC23:19
fastatadzik: I alreadu got about 1500 messages from some spammer from a bitcoin channel.23:19
tadzikwow23:19
tadzik/ignore?23:19
fastatadzik: the user names are all different.23:20
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tadzikI see23:20
fastatadzik: I wrote a few regular expressions to get rid of it, but the client cannot handle the 15 regular expressions!23:20
fastaI can't believe how someone can design an IRC client to be that bad.23:21
tadzik:) what are you using?23:21
fastatadzik: Quassel23:21
fastatadzik: the core runs on a server.23:21
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fastatadzik: that's why I appear to be 'online' all the time.23:21
fastatadzik: great idea, but the client itself is a total failure.23:21
fastatadzik: the problem however is that almost all software sucks.23:22
tadzikI just use weechat on the ssh shell23:22
tadzikyeah, well, welcome to the World :)23:22
fastaI have also tried out about 30 music players or so.23:22
fastaAll of them are just really, really wrong.23:22
tadzikI like mpd+ncmpcpp combo23:22
fastaThe one I use now isn't supposed to work according to the C++ standard.23:22
tadzikI didn't find a single GUI one that's not horrible23:22
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fastatadzik: for something like mpd, some kind of 'wizard' to set things up is needed.23:24
tadzikmaybe23:24
fastatadzik: and I'd guess that ncmpcpp also doesn't download lyrics, etc.23:24
tadzikit does, actually23:24
fastatadzik: ok, I don't care about album art :)23:25
fastatadzik: that's sort of nice then. I will try it then sometime.23:25
tadzikI like the fact that it's directory-driven rather than metadata-driven23:25
fastatadzik: has it been written in some kind of decent C++?23:25
tadzikI have no eye deer, I don't feel a need to look at the source code23:26
tadzikespecially since it's C++23:26
fastatadzik: it never crashed?23:26
tadziknot for me23:26
fastatadzik: and you have left it running for weeks?23:26
tadzikwhy would I? It's a client, not a server23:26
tadzikmpd runs for months here23:26
fastatadzik: and I expect it also has some kind of CLI api?23:27
tadzikncmpcpp is an ncurses app23:27
tadzikmpd is a daemon which plays music23:27
fastatadzik: i.e. things like foobar next, to go to the next song?23:27
tadzikthere are mpd clients which do that, mpc for example. Or you can just connect to host:port and send "next"23:28
tadzikalso, I have a feeling we're going rather offtopic in here, and may make some people mad ;)23:28
fastatadzik: I don't think we do, but everything which can be said about it has been said.23:28
tadziknot sure how #maemo reacts to offtopic, so I try to be careful-ish [;)23:29
DocPyrotizerkerio: ending a fake IMEI wouldn't help ### sure it would, when I send fake IMEI of N900 from arbitary other platform for registration23:30
keriooic23:30
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