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| sLumPia | which is the safer step to install nitdroid: | 16:35 |
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| sLumPia | 1.install nitdroid then u-boot | 16:35 |
| sLumPia | 2.install u-boot then nitdroid? | 16:35 |
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| sLumPia | oops, i dont know #nitdroid exist | 16:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~maemo-multiboot | 17:02 |
| infobot | i guess maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | afaik nitdroid isn't compatible with uBoot (I wish the droid dudes had changed that meanwhile) | 17:03 |
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| kerio | multiboot, aka nand destroyer | 17:10 |
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| narcos | Hey all. My N900 has suddenly stopped recognizing my usb port | 17:36 |
| narcos | Such that, "ifconfig usb0 up" results in "siocsifaddr no such device" | 17:36 |
| narcos | Doing an lsmod | grep -i usb doesn't return any results | 17:36 |
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| jacekowski | no usbnetworking then | 17:37 |
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| narcos | jacekowski: It doesn't charge over USB via PC either anymore | 18:03 |
| jacekowski | your usb port is gone | 18:03 |
| narcos | :( | 18:03 |
| narcos | Is this a common thing...? | 18:03 |
| jacekowski | very common | 18:03 |
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| narcos | jacekowski: Is there a fix, or that's it? | 18:11 |
| jacekowski | that's it | 18:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | narcos: do not use ti, carefull disassemble and fix it | 18:12 |
| jacekowski | well, depends on exactly what happened | 18:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: there is fix | 18:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | there 3 fixes | 18:12 |
| jacekowski | not if he lifted tracks off pcb | 18:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | one is you can still repair it | 18:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | 2 you can solder cables to mb | 18:12 |
| jacekowski | and that's most common | 18:12 |
| jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: you can't | 18:12 |
| jacekowski | there is nowhere to solder them to in most caes | 18:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | 3 you can use wireless charging batteries as i saw someone did on TMO | 18:13 |
| jacekowski | narcos: take it apart and see how badly damaged is it | 18:13 |
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| jacekowski | narcos: there is slim chance that it can be repaired | 18:13 |
| jacekowski | narcos: very slim | 18:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: there is thread on TMO with instruction, so you do can. | 18:13 |
| jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: read that thread | 18:13 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: let's say you can make it charging, without data | 18:14 |
| narcos | I can still charge from the wall socket though? | 18:14 |
| jacekowski | narcos: it needs data lines to charge | 18:15 |
| jacekowski | narcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54762&page=2 | 18:15 |
| jacekowski | narcos: but it all depends on how badly it is damaged | 18:16 |
| jacekowski | and what happened | 18:16 |
| narcos | ahhh | 18:16 |
| narcos | o | 18:16 |
| narcos | *ok | 18:16 |
| narcos | It's weird - it was working fine yesterday, but today it only charges from the wall socket, not via PC. | 18:17 |
| jacekowski | ahm | 18:17 |
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| jacekowski | that sort of thing | 18:17 |
| jacekowski | then it may be something else | 18:17 |
| jacekowski | restart your pc | 18:17 |
| jacekowski | and phone | 18:17 |
| jacekowski | and try different usb port on pc | 18:18 |
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| jacekowski | and different usb cable | 18:18 |
| jacekowski | i've seen usb ports in pcs just wear and fail | 18:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jacekowski: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71414 i talked about that | 18:19 |
| narcos | I've tried turning it off and on, and on a different PC. | 18:19 |
| narcos | Also, when I plug it in via USB the pixels in the top left go a bit weird | 18:19 |
| narcos | (from PC) | 18:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | narcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920&highlight=soldering+battery all the info in one place with links to relevant threads | 18:19 |
| jacekowski | ZogG_laptop: that's rapuyama usb not main omap | 18:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | narcos: do not plug and unplug it | 18:19 |
| narcos | ZogG_laptop: why? | 18:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | narcos: i had problem with sometimes and working and sometimes not working, and i could fix | 18:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | but by playing with it i ripped it off at all, and made it worse | 18:20 |
| narcos | ah ok | 18:22 |
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| Pali | ~usbfix | 18:24 |
| infobot | somebody said usbfix was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 18:24 |
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| Pali | narcos ^^^ | 18:24 |
| narcos | Pali: Ta | 18:24 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Pali: i used expo after fiz and ruined it more :P | 18:33 |
| narcos | Well, I left the phone off for 20 mins, plugged it back in, and now it works | 18:40 |
| narcos | Ah, and quickly reports 'not charging, insufficient power' | 18:40 |
| narcos | but the usb0 interface is present | 18:41 |
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| Pali | narcos, usb0 (in n900) is present if kernel driver g_nokia is loaded | 18:47 |
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| Pali | or kernel driver g_ether | 18:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | reflash! | 18:51 |
| kerio | reflash! reflash! reflash! | 18:52 |
| kerio | and then bmrestore? idk | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | why? to restore the fuckup? | 18:53 |
| kerio | bmrestore an old backup :) | 18:53 |
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| kerio | i think i only have latest and second latest, though | 18:54 |
| kerio | :/ | 18:54 |
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| kerio | holy shit | 19:07 |
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| kerio | i just removed my otter box | 19:07 |
| kerio | i didn't know the n900 was so tiny | 19:07 |
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| narcos | So, after disassembling my N900 - should I notice that the USB port is loose? | 19:48 |
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| teotwaki | depends on your sexual orientation, I guess. | 20:13 |
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| kerio | haha | 20:20 |
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| teotwaki | 'later all | 20:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: why would you disassemble your device? | 21:31 |
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| Estel_ | freemangordon, zeq1, lame question - how to properly install fennec add-ons in N900's version? | 21:38 |
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| zeq1 | Estel_: you should be able to use the settings screen available from the left control panel | 21:39 |
| zeq1 | sorry I mean right* | 21:39 |
| Estel_ | trying to do it "holy way" result in "can't open file, tap to download". Not to mention that @[])@) fennec doesn't ask where to download, nor tells me where it did - can't find any settings for that too, at least without searching in about: | 21:39 |
| Estel_ | zeq1, sure, I am, to the point where I decide to install anything | 21:39 |
| Estel_ | of course I'm using your thumb version | 21:40 |
| zeq1 | I'm not sure what add-ons are compatible | 21:40 |
| zeq1 | I haven't tried any | 21:40 |
| Estel_ | I'm trying fennec ones | 21:40 |
| zeq1 | actually, I think I did... | 21:41 |
| zeq1 | I don't remember | 21:41 |
| Estel_ | i.e. marked as compatible with fennec, exclusively. I remember it worked on ancient non-thumb versions for N900 | 21:41 |
| Estel_ | well, maybe itms because Maemo as system doesnmt know how to handle those .xpi (or something) extension filea | 21:41 |
| Estel_ | s/filea/files/ | 21:41 |
| infobot | Estel_ meant: well, maybe itms because Maemo as system doesnmt know how to handle those .xpi (or something) extension files | 21:41 |
| Estel_ | and fennec somehow catches it, and display own "can't open" pop-up? | 21:42 |
| Estel_ | in such case, some kinf of manual install should work. Chromium in Easy Debian require unpacking extension and manual installation, no idea how to do it in Fennec | 21:42 |
| zeq1 | Estel_: it should work as long as you have a compatible add-on version | 21:43 |
| Estel_ | but, but, it doesn't even try to install it or open | 21:43 |
| zeq1 | I'm pretty sure I got that far | 21:43 |
| Estel_ | it just says that it can't open it, before actually trying. Maybe it works only, when You select add-on from Fennec menu - i.e. from few first results... | 21:43 |
| Estel_ | but doesn't work if You select "show all xxx results" that open web-page with addons? | 21:44 |
| zeq1 | yes, I'm pretty sure you have to do it through the install add-on screen | 21:44 |
| Estel_ | hm, so need to tune my keywords for search to force it into showing me desired result amongst first few. Thanks | 21:45 |
| Estel_ | and that thing about downloaded files location? any idea how to make it ask me where to save? | 21:45 |
| zeq1 | good question nfc | 21:46 |
| Estel_ | thanks, nevertheless :) I also have nfc about where it saves it automaticaly (will abuse find) | 21:47 |
| Estel_ | fennec still amazes me, when it comes to lack of basic funcionalities. Thanks a lot for fixing this bastard, guys :) | 21:48 |
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| Estel_ | freemangordon, zeq, fennec segfaulting 100% times, when I change language from settings (from "auto" to "english"): | 22:07 |
| Estel_ | http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3d018112f9a5d25f#TXNXGjjUdX6bPZF6TMLETIXWbiZAJ6cfKvZ18pXbCL8= | 22:07 |
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| narcos | DocScrutinizer: You missed my previous convo, where I was advised to do so :) | 23:24 |
| narcos | Anyway, solved my problem, bought a new N900 on ebay :P | 23:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no, you missed my concise conclusion from all that and advise to you: reflash! | 23:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the advise to disassemble N900 was done lightheaded, and no proper analysis of error pattern justified that advise | 23:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | s/vise/vice/g | 23:31 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: the advice to disassemble N900 was done lightheaded, and no proper analysis of error pattern justified that advice | 23:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually your statement that charging from wallcharger still works kinda gives strong indications that you don't suffer from any hw problem | 23:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (or your hw problem is actually not fixable, since it would be a broken musb-core then, since USB receptacle and PHY have to be ok for charging from wallcharger) | 23:44 |
| javispedro | hiya DocScrutinizer05 | 23:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hi javispedro | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | narcos: anyway, I'd love to buy your broken N900 ;-) | 23:48 |
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| kerio | i'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 pays plus 0.01€ | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't trust kerio! | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he'll not act according to his words | 23:50 |
| kerio | lies! | 23:50 |
| javispedro | he'll pay 0.005 instead of 0.01 | 23:51 |
| kerio | it would still be convenient, mind you | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, how's that? narcos, 600EUR | 23:51 |
| javispedro | O.o | 23:51 |
| kerio | i'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 *pays* | 23:52 |
| javispedro | I sell! I sell! | 23:52 |
| kerio | javispedro: woosh? | 23:52 |
| javispedro | whooo $.$ ssshh | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | javispedro: I'm waiting for kerio either to offer 600.01 or admit he's not honest | 23:52 |
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| kerio | if i admitted i'm not honest, would i be honest? | 23:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no worries, you stay a dishonest dude | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 23:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | unless I see narcos confirming a payment of 600.01EUR from you | 23:55 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 idly ponders to sell a proper true diagnostics tool via OVI store or similar web based shop - rather than bantering kerio | 23:57 | |
| narcos | DocScrutinizer: Sorry, I feel like we're having a lagged convo here :) Didn't notice your reflash comment - think that's all I need? | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably | 23:58 |
| narcos | DocScrutinizer: Actually I'd already ordered the second N900 - by chance it arrived an hour after my existing one broke | 23:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, more likely than a hw fix to USB port | 23:59 |
| Sicelo | someone's selling an N900 on tmo. US$100. /me is tempted | 23:59 |
| narcos | So, kerio will buy it for EUR600,01? :) | 23:59 |
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