*** lizardo has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
*** beford has joined #maemo | 00:03 | |
*** jrayhawk has quit IRC | 00:04 | |
*** sq-one has quit IRC | 00:04 | |
*** gomiam has joined #maemo | 00:05 | |
*** jrayhawk has joined #maemo | 00:05 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
*** dos1 has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
*** dos1 has joined #maemo | 00:08 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 00:10 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
*** e-yes has joined #maemo | 00:15 | |
*** dos11 has joined #maemo | 00:17 | |
*** dos1 has quit IRC | 00:17 | |
*** konelix_ is now known as konelix | 00:18 | |
*** jrayhawk has quit IRC | 00:23 | |
*** vi__ has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
*** WielkiTost has joined #maemo | 00:27 | |
*** dos11 has quit IRC | 00:27 | |
*** jrayhawk has joined #maemo | 00:29 | |
*** zeq1 has quit IRC | 00:31 | |
*** mardi has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: | 00:37 |
---|---|---|
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:10] <teotwaki_> ~ping | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:10] <infobot> ~pong | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:11] <teotwaki_> ~ping | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:13] <teotwaki_> ~ping | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:22] <teotwaki_> ah, finally | 00:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-08-13 21:11:25] <teotwaki_> that was a long lag. | 00:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep, the question is; where? | 00:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or just http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-08-13.log.html#t2012-08-13T22:11:09 | 00:41 |
*** WielkiTost has quit IRC | 00:42 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: botsnack | 00:42 |
infobot | thanks, DocScrutinizer05 | 00:42 |
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v infobot | 00:43 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? | 00:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, povbot missing in the list | 00:43 |
*** c3sso has quit IRC | 00:43 | |
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v povbot_ | 00:44 | |
*** WielkiTost has joined #maemo | 00:44 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | (for those wondering: my IRC client sorts userlist by "+o, +v, <others>" | 00:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ) | 00:46 |
*** WielkiTost has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | quite convenient on #freenode as well as watching 'official' bots here | 00:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | as well as *for* | 00:47 |
*** mardi has joined #maemo | 00:48 | |
*** gomiam has quit IRC | 00:52 | |
*** chenca has quit IRC | 01:02 | |
*** khertan_ has joined #maemo | 01:02 | |
*** beford has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
*** rZr has joined #maemo | 01:09 | |
*** real-dev has joined #maemo | 01:11 | |
*** dev has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
*** real-dev is now known as dev | 01:12 | |
*** FIQ has quit IRC | 01:14 | |
*** Free-MG has quit IRC | 01:16 | |
*** zsolt_hun has joined #maemo | 01:24 | |
zsolt_hun | hi there | 01:25 |
trumee | channel been a bit low today | 01:25 |
*** FIQ has joined #maemo | 01:25 | |
*** Rajesh_ has quit IRC | 01:26 | |
zsolt_hun | how is it possible to extract initrd and vmlinuz from maemo n900 package? | 01:26 |
trumee | is there any utility to test microsd speed on N900? | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | low? | 01:32 |
trumee | traffic | 01:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | zsolt_hun: you'll have a hard time extracting initrd from maemo5 | 01:32 |
zsolt_hun | i need a initrd and vmlinuz for debian that is compatible with my n900 | 01:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | too bad | 01:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and what makes you think you'll find such initrd in maemo5? | 01:34 |
*** dos1 has joined #maemo | 01:35 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # cat /proc/mtd | 01:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # less -f /dev/mtd4ro | 01:36 |
zsolt_hun | thank you very much | 01:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no sarcasm please! I demonstrated you how to learn there's no initrd in maemo5 | 01:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a real hacker would've answered "not at all" - if anything | 01:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~question | 01:43 |
infobot | question is, like, If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 01:43 |
zsolt_hun | you are right | 01:45 |
*** zsolt_hun has quit IRC | 01:46 | |
*** dhbiker has quit IRC | 01:47 | |
*** rm_work has quit IRC | 01:49 | |
*** dos1 has quit IRC | 01:51 | |
*** dos11 has joined #maemo | 01:51 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | you even learnt there's an unused partition on N900 you could use for doing awesome 1337 stuff | 01:51 |
*** dos11 is now known as dos1 | 01:51 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I wasn't able to deliver a receipe how to create a proper initrd from easy-debian | 01:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (not that I rhink this could be done at all) | 01:53 |
*** Rantwolf has quit IRC | 02:01 | |
DocScrutinizer51 | anyway neither maemo5 nor mer nor meego nor nitdroid needs an initrd for all I know. why would you? | 02:03 |
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo | 02:04 | |
*** markinfo has quit IRC | 02:05 | |
*** OkropNick has quit IRC | 02:06 | |
*** DrGrov has joined #maemo | 02:08 | |
*** DrGrov has left #maemo | 02:08 | |
*** markinfo has joined #maemo | 02:10 | |
*** auenf has quit IRC | 02:11 | |
*** auenf has joined #maemo | 02:12 | |
*** setanta has quit IRC | 02:13 | |
* DocScrutinizer05 is temped to check wikipedia initrd to find "a dirty halfarsed hack to speed up system boot. obsoleted by modified suspend-to-disk schemes" | 02:14 | |
*** robbiethe1st has joined #maemo | 02:18 | |
nox- | i thought the main reason for initrds was linux bootloaders couldnt preload modules individually? | 02:21 |
*** markinfo has quit IRC | 02:21 | |
*** dos1 has quit IRC | 02:23 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 02:24 | |
*** dos1 has joined #maemo | 02:24 | |
*** florian has quit IRC | 02:24 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
*** konelix_ is now known as konelix | 02:29 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's what monolithic kernels were made for | 02:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | but yes, before initrd came, you needed to build a kernel with monolithic modules for your rootfs and graca and whatnot else | 02:30 |
nox- | yeah | 02:30 |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | luckily our variance in hw configs is rather limited in embedded | 02:31 |
nox- | i guess | 02:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so no use in 'latebinding' kernel with modules needed for booting | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | we can already ship right kernel "from factory" | 02:32 |
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo | 02:33 | |
*** idoru has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
nox- | so there zsolt has why n900 has no initrd | 02:33 |
nox- | and he left | 02:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nowadays bootloaders are able to load not only initrd but complete full fledged system RAM images from HDD | 02:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | called resume-from-HDD | 02:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | afaik windoze never gets booted nowadays, only "resumed" from a master suspended image | 02:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | probably it also would be faster to "swap in" 250MB from a r/o swap partition rather than initialize maemo each time again | 02:38 |
*** flx_ has joined #maemo | 02:39 | |
*** flx_ is now known as Guest1489 | 02:39 | |
*** mzanetti_ has joined #maemo | 02:40 | |
*** mzanetti has quit IRC | 02:40 | |
*** flux has quit IRC | 02:40 | |
*** Guest1489 is now known as flux | 02:41 | |
*** ruskie has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | boot once, "suspend to disk", copy that "swap" to a r/o file, and resume from that, then immediately "reswap" to proper r/w swap partition | 02:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no rocketscience | 02:43 |
*** Xjs|moonshine has quit IRC | 02:46 | |
*** merlin1991 has quit IRC | 02:46 | |
*** monoceros_ has joined #maemo | 02:47 | |
*** merlin1991 has joined #maemo | 02:47 | |
*** madduck has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
*** basiaf_ has joined #maemo | 02:48 | |
*** Trizt has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
*** basiaf has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
*** Trizt has joined #maemo | 02:48 | |
*** monoceros has quit IRC | 02:49 | |
*** monoceros_ is now known as monoceros | 02:49 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 02:50 | |
kgu | Any of you guys using digsby? | 02:50 |
*** madduck has joined #maemo | 02:50 | |
*** ruskie has joined #maemo | 02:51 | |
*** Xjs|moonshine has joined #maemo | 02:51 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
*** mardi has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
*** konelix__ has joined #maemo | 03:04 | |
*** dos1 has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
*** konelix_ has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
*** idoru has joined #maemo | 03:08 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 03:10 | |
*** konelix__ has quit IRC | 03:10 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 03:22 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 03:24 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC | 03:25 | |
*** cyndis has quit IRC | 03:27 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo | 03:27 | |
*** joppuyo has quit IRC | 03:28 | |
*** joppuyo has joined #maemo | 03:29 | |
*** cyndis has joined #maemo | 03:29 | |
*** jargon- has quit IRC | 03:29 | |
*** jargon- has joined #maemo | 03:36 | |
*** otep has quit IRC | 03:36 | |
*** githogori has joined #maemo | 03:38 | |
*** konelix__ has joined #maemo | 03:38 | |
*** konelix_ has quit IRC | 03:40 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 03:47 | |
*** konelix__ has quit IRC | 03:49 | |
*** em_ has quit IRC | 03:50 | |
*** emma has joined #maemo | 03:50 | |
*** Jucato_ has joined #maemo | 03:51 | |
*** Jucato has quit IRC | 03:52 | |
*** Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | 03:52 | |
*** emma is now known as em | 03:54 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 03:54 | |
*** otep has joined #maemo | 03:56 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 03:56 | |
*** konelix__ has joined #maemo | 04:00 | |
*** konelix_ has quit IRC | 04:02 | |
*** uen| has joined #maemo | 04:03 | |
*** croppa has joined #maemo | 04:06 | |
*** uen has quit IRC | 04:07 | |
*** uen| is now known as uen | 04:07 | |
*** nox- has quit IRC | 04:08 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 04:09 | |
*** mvp_ has quit IRC | 04:10 | |
*** elninja has quit IRC | 04:11 | |
*** konelix__ has quit IRC | 04:12 | |
*** gn00b has quit IRC | 04:23 | |
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC | 04:31 | |
*** NishanthMenon has quit IRC | 04:38 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 04:45 | |
*** Echtor2oo3 has quit IRC | 04:46 | |
*** kahless has quit IRC | 04:46 | |
*** Gh0sty_ has joined #maemo | 04:51 | |
*** otep_ has joined #maemo | 04:55 | |
*** guerby has quit IRC | 05:00 | |
ShadowJK | 32 days uptime on n900 | 05:01 |
*** guerby has joined #maemo | 05:02 | |
ShadowJK | if I get to 60 I'll consider my last tweak having fixed the occasional I/O deadlocks that have put upper limits on system stability before | 05:02 |
*** Gh0sty has quit IRC | 05:02 | |
*** Gh0sty_ is now known as Gh0sty | 05:02 | |
*** otep has quit IRC | 05:04 | |
*** ebzzry has joined #maemo | 05:04 | |
*** cyborg-o1e has joined #maemo | 05:04 | |
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC | 05:05 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 05:05 | |
*** beford has joined #maemo | 05:17 | |
*** ketas has quit IRC | 05:17 | |
*** ketas has joined #maemo | 05:18 | |
*** rc_ has joined #maemo | 05:19 | |
*** rcg has quit IRC | 05:24 | |
*** Kilroo has quit IRC | 05:33 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 05:34 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo | 05:36 | |
*** ebzzry has quit IRC | 05:40 | |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 05:53 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 05:57 | |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 05:58 | |
*** kraft has quit IRC | 06:03 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC | 06:04 | |
*** luke-jr has quit IRC | 06:35 | |
*** luke-jr has joined #maemo | 06:36 | |
*** cyborg-o1e has quit IRC | 06:36 | |
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo | 06:38 | |
*** jargon- has quit IRC | 06:47 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has quit IRC | 06:51 | |
*** etrunko has quit IRC | 07:00 | |
*** Jucato has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
*** ikarus has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
*** Milhouse has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
*** florentia has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo | 07:10 | |
*** ferdna has joined #maemo | 07:14 | |
*** shamus has joined #maemo | 07:18 | |
*** robbiethe1st has quit IRC | 07:19 | |
*** FIQ has quit IRC | 07:22 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: well, I'm absolutely sure I've seen uptimes >100 days on N900, so what exactly are the triggers for those instabilities? | 07:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ uptime | 07:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 06:40:04 up 136 days, 7:35, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 07:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ uname -a | 07:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Linux t900 2.6.28.10power46 #1 PREEMPT Sun Dec 12 03:11:24 EET 2010 armv7l unknown | 07:30 |
jpinx | I didn't record the uptime - but one of my n900's was up for about 6 months without break | 07:46 |
*** Ionakka has joined #maemo | 07:56 | |
*** Jucato has joined #maemo | 07:59 | |
*** ikarus has joined #maemo | 07:59 | |
*** Milhouse has joined #maemo | 07:59 | |
*** florentia has joined #maemo | 07:59 | |
kerio | DocScrutinizer05: I/O locking the system for long enough for the watchdog to bite? | 08:04 |
*** Sazpaimon has quit IRC | 08:04 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | never seen that happen on mine | 08:04 |
*** Sazpaimon has joined #maemo | 08:04 | |
kerio | is there a way to do a file copy with a speed meter? | 08:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | particularly watchdog never kicked in, even when I managed to run system into massive swaphell where it took literally hours to recover from increasing deadlock | 08:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | speed meter? | 08:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | use dd if you want speed meter | 08:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or mc | 08:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or rsync | 08:07 |
kerio | dd only shows the speed meter at the end, if you don't sigusr1 it repeatedly | 08:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 08:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you haven | 08:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 't | 08:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | specified what kind of speedmeneter you want at all | 08:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's even -v on cp | 08:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and then there's iotop, or iostat or whatever it's called | 08:09 |
kerio | meh, emmc->emmc speeds vary wildly during the copy | 08:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there's a dedicated bytecounter for pipes, like cat foo|meter|cat >dest | 08:10 |
kerio | i hope you mean meter <foo >dest | 08:12 |
kerio | >:( | 08:12 |
kerio | hmm, emmc->usd speeds are a bit higher | 08:14 |
kerio | but they still drop after a bit | 08:14 |
kerio | meh :c | 08:14 |
*** jargon- has joined #maemo | 08:18 | |
*** Jucato has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
*** ikarus has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
*** Milhouse has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
*** florentia has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, I dunno about any progress bar thingie. All I ever need is (in) mc, dd, and zenity | 08:26 |
Macer | i remember long ago mv and cp having a progress bar or % thing | 08:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | oh? | 08:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe on msdos | 08:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 08:29 |
Macer | heh | 08:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | rsync seems to do what you want | 08:29 |
Macer | no ;) | 08:29 |
Macer | DocScrutinizer05: yeah i guess but the cp/mv in slackware a decade ago had it integrated | 08:30 |
Macer | i mean it wasn't a dealbreaker but still... i thought it was a nice thing to have | 08:30 |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 08:30 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't sound like linux/unix | 08:31 |
*** Milhouse has joined #maemo | 08:31 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe some builtin in some weird messybox-alike shell | 08:31 |
Macer | possibly | 08:32 |
*** pigeon has quit IRC | 08:32 | |
joga | (didn't read whole buffer) you can pipe stuff through 'pv' to get a progress bar | 08:32 |
joga | not sure if it was in the repos though :) | 08:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | pv :-) thanks joga | 08:33 |
*** pigeon has joined #maemo | 08:33 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | though that seems not exactly a standard unix-tool | 08:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not even on my desktop | 08:34 |
joga | yeah I guess | 08:34 |
joga | http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml | 08:34 |
joga | when I once found such exists I kinda wished it or something similar was part of the core utils | 08:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess wc could use some more modes | 08:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, no PC will get touched by me that has not either MC or at least NC | 08:38 |
*** Vibe has quit IRC | 08:39 | |
*** Vibe has joined #maemo | 08:39 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | mc as much a standard as is bash, in my book ;-) | 08:40 |
joga | I never really got used to using stuff like mc | 08:41 |
*** Jucato has joined #maemo | 08:45 | |
*** KrayonWork has joined #maemo | 08:48 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, mc isn't that useful when you're not used to it | 08:49 |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 08:49 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | if however you're used to mc, it's faster than cmdline, by far | 08:50 |
*** Jucato_ has joined #maemo | 08:51 | |
*** Jucato has quit IRC | 08:53 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | I admit it's not THAT useful on tiny screen like N900 | 08:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you need a certain minimum display size to use it | 08:53 |
joga | I guess I've been stuck with using the command line for most stuff since I used to use symbian putty to access the shell and the terminal size issues sometimes mean that progs crash or refuse to start etc | 08:55 |
joga | but I've sometimes checked some ncurses file managers etc, but haven't bothered to learn them so it would be faster to use for me | 08:56 |
joga | should I do that though, I guess I would learn the most common one | 08:58 |
*** _berto_ has joined #maemo | 09:05 | |
*** gn00b has joined #maemo | 09:06 | |
*** ab has quit IRC | 09:07 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 09:10 | |
*** Vibe has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
*** Vibe has joined #maemo | 09:11 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | so mc :-) | 09:14 |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 09:15 | |
*** Dynamit has joined #maemo | 09:15 | |
*** ferdna has quit IRC | 09:17 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 09:19 | |
*** teotwaki__ has joined #maemo | 09:20 | |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 09:21 | |
joga | DocScrutinizer05 yeah, well, it's what I've probably used the most (or nc in dos), which isn't much :) | 09:22 |
*** ab has joined #maemo | 09:25 | |
*** loganbr has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
*** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
*** LiraNuna has joined #maemo | 09:33 | |
*** MacDrunk has joined #maemo | 09:33 | |
*** MacDrunk has left #maemo | 09:35 | |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 09:35 | |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 09:36 | |
*** ikarus has joined #maemo | 09:37 | |
*** florentia has joined #maemo | 09:37 | |
*** Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | 09:43 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 09:46 | |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 09:46 | |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 09:48 | |
*** eMHa has quit IRC | 09:49 | |
*** e-yes has quit IRC | 09:49 | |
*** rZr is now known as rzr | 09:51 | |
*** andre__ has joined #maemo | 09:52 | |
*** andre__ has quit IRC | 09:52 | |
*** andre__ has joined #maemo | 09:52 | |
*** Rantwolf has joined #maemo | 09:55 | |
*** Venusaur has quit IRC | 09:55 | |
*** Venusaur has joined #maemo | 09:58 | |
*** c3sso has joined #maemo | 10:02 | |
*** toxaris has joined #maemo | 10:07 | |
*** teotwaki__ has quit IRC | 10:14 | |
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo | 10:21 | |
*** jhb has joined #maemo | 10:23 | |
*** Jucato_ has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
*** florian has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
*** florian has quit IRC | 10:28 | |
*** florian has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
*** eMHa has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
*** Jucato has quit IRC | 10:29 | |
*** utanapischti has quit IRC | 10:29 | |
*** Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | 10:29 | |
*** lucas_gut has joined #maemo | 10:29 | |
*** utanapischti has joined #maemo | 10:29 | |
*** rzr is now known as rZr | 10:32 | |
*** lartza_ has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
*** kylanpaj_ has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
*** lartza_ has joined #maemo | 10:33 | |
*** kylanpaj has joined #maemo | 10:34 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has joined #maemo | 10:34 | |
*** jonwil has joined #maemo | 10:35 | |
*** rc_ has quit IRC | 10:35 | |
*** jhb has quit IRC | 10:36 | |
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo | 10:37 | |
*** mvp_ has quit IRC | 10:39 | |
*** timo^ has joined #maemo | 10:43 | |
*** LaoLang_cool has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
*** SmilyOrg has joined #maemo | 10:44 | |
*** calvaris has joined #maemo | 10:46 | |
*** beford has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
*** Guest58511 has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has joined #maemo | 10:49 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has quit IRC | 10:55 | |
*** VDVsx has joined #maemo | 11:00 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has joined #maemo | 11:00 | |
*** Darkchaos has joined #maemo | 11:00 | |
*** timo^ has quit IRC | 11:04 | |
*** timo^laptop has joined #maemo | 11:04 | |
*** timo^laptop is now known as timo^ | 11:04 | |
*** VDVsx_ has joined #maemo | 11:06 | |
*** gn00b has quit IRC | 11:06 | |
*** gn00b has joined #maemo | 11:07 | |
*** VDVsx has quit IRC | 11:08 | |
*** ekze-nyan has quit IRC | 11:11 | |
*** ekze-nyan has joined #maemo | 11:11 | |
*** jhb has joined #maemo | 11:12 | |
*** Darkchaos has quit IRC | 11:21 | |
*** OkropNick has joined #maemo | 11:24 | |
*** e-yes has joined #maemo | 11:24 | |
*** Darkchaos has joined #maemo | 11:26 | |
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo | 11:40 | |
*** c3sso has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
jpinx | When I download usb-network-modules.deb and try to install manually I get "Unable to install 'usb-network-modules'. -- Incompatible application package." What am I doing wrong? | 11:48 |
jpinx | I got the same when trying to install open ssh :( | 11:49 |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 12:02 | |
*** Vibe has quit IRC | 12:02 | |
*** Vibe has joined #maemo | 12:03 | |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 12:06 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 12:06 | |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 12:06 | |
*** mzanetti_ is now known as mzanetti | 12:11 | |
*** VDVsx_ is now known as VDVsx | 12:14 | |
*** Elleo has quit IRC | 12:25 | |
*** Elleo has joined #maemo | 12:26 | |
*** hazchemix has quit IRC | 12:27 | |
*** pcfe has joined #maemo | 12:28 | |
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo | 12:30 | |
*** Rajesh has joined #maemo | 12:32 | |
*** Rajesh is now known as Guest87792 | 12:32 | |
*** zap_ has joined #maemo | 12:36 | |
*** Tranquility has joined #maemo | 12:36 | |
*** drussell has quit IRC | 12:37 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 12:39 | |
*** drussell has joined #maemo | 12:47 | |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 12:49 | |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 12:49 | |
*** shpaq has quit IRC | 12:54 | |
*** shpaq has joined #maemo | 12:55 | |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 13:03 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 13:10 | |
*** ferulo has joined #maemo | 13:12 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 13:13 | |
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo | 13:18 | |
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
timo^ | I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a 16GB uSD card. When I try to start it with Uboot it gives the error 'Wrong ramdisk format' and I'm dropped in a shell... | 13:25 |
*** Hoolxi has joined #maemo | 13:25 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 13:29 | |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
*** lizardo has joined #maemo | 13:37 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 13:42 | |
*** Guest87792 has quit IRC | 13:44 | |
kerio | timo^: i think the ramdisk format isn't the right one | 13:48 |
timo^ | and how do I change it? :) | 13:52 |
kerio | beats me | 13:53 |
kerio | why do you even want to install ubuntu 12.04 on your n900? | 13:53 |
kerio | ubuntu dropped armel support since 9.10 | 13:53 |
timo^ | just for fun :P | 13:53 |
timo^ | (now I have Meego, 'cause Ubuntu didn't work ;) ) | 13:53 |
*** markinfo has joined #maemo | 13:58 | |
*** maybeHere has joined #maemo | 14:05 | |
*** rZr is now known as rzr | 14:06 | |
*** maybeArgh has quit IRC | 14:09 | |
DocScrutinizer51 | jpinx: use armel packages, not x86 | 14:13 |
*** jpinx_ has joined #maemo | 14:14 | |
*** Hurrian has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
vi_ | zeq: ping | 14:17 |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
*** jpinx has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
*** Sc0rpius has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
DocScrutinizer51 | hi vi_ | 14:19 |
DocScrutinizer51 | got your git? | 14:19 |
ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer; heavy read/write load to emmc, home and swap simultaneously | 14:23 |
ShadowJK | iirc this deadlock never triggered for me with just heavy swapping | 14:24 |
DocScrutinizer51 | hmmmm | 14:24 |
ShadowJK | but for example downloading stuff with gpodder and opening a heavy web page would often be the trigger for me, but only after weeks of uptime | 14:24 |
*** Sc0rpius has joined #maemo | 14:24 | |
ShadowJK | the device actually in best situation doesn't become totally unresponsive, just that only stuff in ram works | 14:25 |
ShadowJK | so if you accidentally trigger wm or h-d to try fault in a page not in ram, device becomes practically unusable | 14:26 |
DocScrutinizer51 | yeah | 14:27 |
ShadowJK | and recovery then consists of holding powerbutton which triggers shutdown, which stalls, then watchdog resets device | 14:27 |
DocScrutinizer51 | flash in microb can do this | 14:27 |
ShadowJK | Note that when all this happens, it's not because I/O is swamping system, I/O stalls. The queues are full, but the i/o devices sit idle doing nothing. | 14:28 |
DocScrutinizer51 | meh | 14:29 |
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo | 14:29 | |
*** croppa has quit IRC | 14:30 | |
*** khertan_ has quit IRC | 14:30 | |
ShadowJK | iirc this article, of all unlikely places, was what made me try slice_idle=0: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH68863 | 14:31 |
*** calvaris has quit IRC | 14:38 | |
*** AliasXZ has joined #maemo | 14:39 | |
*** khertan_ has joined #maemo | 14:45 | |
*** markinfo has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
*** GNUton-BNC has quit IRC | 14:50 | |
*** AliasXZ has quit IRC | 14:50 | |
*** GNUton-BNC has joined #maemo | 14:51 | |
*** etrunko has joined #maemo | 14:51 | |
*** VDVsx has quit IRC | 14:58 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 15:02 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 15:04 | |
*** toxaris has quit IRC | 15:12 | |
*** toxaris has joined #maemo | 15:13 | |
*** rzr is now known as rZr | 15:13 | |
*** timo^ has quit IRC | 15:18 | |
*** ferulo has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
*** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 15:27 | |
*** ketas has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
*** auenf has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
*** valeriusN has left #maemo | 15:32 | |
*** bugzy has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
*** auenf has joined #maemo | 15:33 | |
*** SpeedEvil has joined #maemo | 15:33 | |
*** ketas has joined #maemo | 15:33 | |
zobi8225 | hi do you continue tu use matchbox for your WM ? | 15:38 |
zobi8225 | is it a good WM ? | 15:39 |
*** Darkchaos has quit IRC | 15:40 | |
kerio | ShadowJK: what's slice_idle? | 15:43 |
*** valerius has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 15:52 | |
*** SpeedEvil has quit IRC | 15:55 | |
*** SpeedEvil has joined #maemo | 15:59 | |
*** pcfe has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 16:06 | |
*** valerius has joined #maemo | 16:07 | |
*** VDVsx has joined #maemo | 16:10 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 16:12 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 16:16 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
*** setanta has joined #maemo | 16:16 | |
*** Tranquility has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
*** penguinbait has joined #maemo | 16:18 | |
*** penguinbait has quit IRC | 16:18 | |
*** penguinbait has joined #maemo | 16:18 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 16:24 | |
*** valerius has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
*** pcfe has joined #maemo | 16:30 | |
*** marainein has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
*** pcfe has left #maemo | 16:32 | |
*** dhbiker has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
*** marainein has joined #maemo | 16:33 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 16:35 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
*** FIQ has joined #maemo | 16:42 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
*** setanta has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 16:52 | |
*** schen has joined #maemo | 17:02 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 17:02 | |
*** setanta has joined #maemo | 17:03 | |
*** valerius has joined #maemo | 17:04 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
*** rm_work has joined #maemo | 17:09 | |
*** toxaris has quit IRC | 17:13 | |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC | 17:22 | |
*** DocScrutinizer has quit IRC | 17:22 | |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #maemo | 17:22 | |
*** DocScrutinizer has joined #maemo | 17:22 | |
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo | 17:24 | |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 17:28 | |
*** zap_ has quit IRC | 17:30 | |
*** Pali has joined #maemo | 17:36 | |
*** MikaT has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 17:39 | |
*** konelix_ has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 17:48 | |
kerio | ShadowJK: so... what are your fixes regarding I/O speed and stability? | 18:01 |
*** zobi8225 has left #maemo | 18:02 | |
*** FIQ has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
*** FIQ has joined #maemo | 18:05 | |
*** konelix_ is now known as konelix | 18:05 | |
*** calvaris has joined #maemo | 18:08 | |
*** dafox has joined #maemo | 18:10 | |
*** dafox has quit IRC | 18:10 | |
*** StyXman has quit IRC | 18:11 | |
*** StyXman has joined #maemo | 18:11 | |
*** StyXman has joined #maemo | 18:11 | |
*** e-yes has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
*** valerius has quit IRC | 18:13 | |
*** timo^ has joined #maemo | 18:27 | |
*** _berto_ has quit IRC | 18:31 | |
*** schen has quit IRC | 18:31 | |
*** lucas_gut has quit IRC | 18:31 | |
*** MrPingu has joined #maemo | 18:32 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 18:33 | |
*** beford has joined #maemo | 18:33 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 18:33 | |
*** gggs has joined #maemo | 18:34 | |
*** valerius has joined #maemo | 18:38 | |
*** gn00b has quit IRC | 18:41 | |
*** sLumPia has joined #maemo | 18:41 | |
sLumPia | hi guys, i have a question. i just reflashed my phone and installed thumb2 | 18:43 |
sLumPia | is it okay if i also install kernel power? | 18:43 |
*** rZr is now known as rzr | 18:44 | |
sLumPia | or i should install kernel power first, then thumb2 | 18:44 |
sLumPia | ? | 18:44 |
kerio | sLumPia: if you followed the TMO thread, then you already have something very similar to KP51r1 | 18:45 |
kerio | kernel-cssu is really just a rebrand of kernel-power | 18:45 |
kerio | if you want to, you can just install kernel-power-flasher, as usual | 18:45 |
kerio | although i would remove kernel-cssu* | 18:45 |
kerio | otherwise you'll use a lot of space on your rootfs, for the modules | 18:45 |
sLumPia | kerio: i read the thread, but can't find the answer. | 18:46 |
sLumPia | ok, so i want to overclock my phone to 805, just like what i do with kp | 18:47 |
sLumPia | how can i oc my n900 with thumb? | 18:47 |
*** gn00b has joined #maemo | 18:48 | |
kerio | kernel-power-settings should still work | 18:48 |
kerio | but as i told you, you can install kernel-power if you want | 18:48 |
kerio | KP51r1 has the thumb2 errata fix | 18:48 |
*** markinfo has joined #maemo | 18:49 | |
*** gggs has left #maemo | 18:49 | |
*** NIN101 has joined #maemo | 18:49 | |
sLumPia | so let me get this straight. i should just: 1. remove kernel-cssu (from ham) | 18:51 |
sLumPia | 2. install kernel-power-flasher | 18:51 |
sLumPia | ? | 18:51 |
kerio | perhaps you shouldn't overclock at all | 18:53 |
kerio | not to be insulting or anything, but it *is* somewhat of an advanced topic | 18:53 |
kerio | and understanding how to overclock with cssu-thumb kinda requires to know, in general, how the n900's kernel works | 18:53 |
kerio | at least from an user's perspective | 18:53 |
sLumPia | kerio: np. i just install kernel-power-settings and load dsp profile | 18:53 |
kerio | just install kernel-power-settings | 18:54 |
kerio | yep | 18:54 |
kerio | it should work - it's the same kernel, after all | 18:54 |
sLumPia | as you said, it work with kernel-cssu | 18:54 |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 18:54 | |
sLumPia | i never really follow up thumb discussion before, so i got a little confuse | 18:55 |
sLumPia | thanks for the advice | 18:56 |
*** timo^ has quit IRC | 18:56 | |
*** axon has joined #maemo | 18:58 | |
*** axon has left #maemo | 18:58 | |
*** Ionakka has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 19:00 | |
*** sLumPia has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
*** rzr is now known as rZr | 19:05 | |
*** kimitake_idle is now known as kimitake | 19:12 | |
*** FIQ has quit IRC | 19:17 | |
*** FIQ has joined #maemo | 19:20 | |
*** Pali has quit IRC | 19:22 | |
*** e-yes has joined #maemo | 19:28 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 19:29 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 19:30 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 19:31 | |
*** timo^ has joined #maemo | 19:32 | |
*** w00d0ng50 has joined #maemo | 19:32 | |
*** eMHa has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
*** mvp_ has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
*** valeriusN has joined #maemo | 19:35 | |
*** Arkenoi has quit IRC | 19:37 | |
*** Ian-- has joined #maemo | 19:38 | |
*** Ian--- has quit IRC | 19:40 | |
*** jonwil has quit IRC | 19:43 | |
*** chenca has joined #maemo | 19:53 | |
*** piggz has joined #maemo | 19:55 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
*** kraft has joined #maemo | 19:59 | |
DocScrutinizer51 | I just wonder whyyou still need to torture your device by OC, when you got lightning fast thumb2 | 19:59 |
DocScrutinizer51 | no matter what I'm running, no matter how slow or fast it feels, OC is a must, as it's 1337 | 20:00 |
*** eMHa has joined #maemo | 20:01 | |
*** mickname has joined #maemo | 20:01 | |
ShadowJK | kerio; nr_request > 2000, slice_idle=0, min_free-kbytes=4096 | 20:02 |
kerio | hm, i have nr_requests at 8192, is it too much? | 20:02 |
ShadowJK | no | 20:03 |
*** piggz has quit IRC | 20:08 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
*** w00d0ng50 has quit IRC | 20:11 | |
MrPingu | DocScrutinizer05, for 720p recording / playback you defenitely need OC | 20:14 |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 20:15 | |
MrPingu | That's the only reason when I OC, rest of the time I always cap it at 600mhz | 20:15 |
kerio | why the hell do you need 720p playback? | 20:18 |
kerio | you don't even *have* 720 lines | 20:18 |
*** timo^ has quit IRC | 20:19 | |
*** hazchemix has quit IRC | 20:21 | |
SpeedEvil | You do in portrait. | 20:24 |
trx | lol | 20:30 |
kerio | but then you don't have 1280 columns! | 20:31 |
MrPingu | Because I recorded in 720p | 20:32 |
*** freemangordon has joined #maemo | 20:32 | |
MrPingu | The rest of my movies I convert to 800x480, don't worry | 20:32 |
kerio | well, see what your recording brought us? D: | 20:32 |
MrPingu | Better quality? | 20:33 |
*** bbee has quit IRC | 20:37 | |
*** hardaker2 has joined #maemo | 20:38 | |
*** piggz has joined #maemo | 20:39 | |
*** Venemo has joined #maemo | 20:41 | |
*** Venemo has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
*** Venemo has joined #maemo | 20:42 | |
*** Zahra has joined #maemo | 20:42 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 20:42 | |
*** timo^ has joined #maemo | 20:47 | |
*** calvaris has quit IRC | 20:50 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has quit IRC | 20:53 | |
*** VDVsx has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 21:10 | |
*** timeless has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
*** XDS2010__ has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
*** timeless has joined #maemo | 21:14 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 21:14 | |
*** hurbu has joined #maemo | 21:17 | |
*** ggfgh has joined #maemo | 21:18 | |
*** lxp has joined #maemo | 21:18 | |
*** sq-one has joined #maemo | 21:19 | |
*** ArGGu^^ has joined #maemo | 21:20 | |
*** lxp1 has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
MrPingu | Is there an easy way/command to list all packages in extras-devel including versionnumber? | 21:24 |
*** wicket64 has joined #maemo | 21:26 | |
*** florian has quit IRC | 21:31 | |
*** ggfgh has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
x29a | MrPingu: like http://maemo.org/packages/repository/list/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/ ? | 21:37 |
mickname | Hey, is there any sensible way to get some kind of push-notifications on n900? | 21:40 |
x29a | mickname: notification of what? | 21:43 |
mickname | i want a system like irssinotify on android | 21:43 |
mickname | basically custom notifications of remote events | 21:43 |
mickname | without polling every few minutes | 21:43 |
*** Zahra has quit IRC | 21:43 | |
*** ZogG_laptop is now known as ZogGbear | 21:44 | |
MrPingu | X29a: Yes something like that but not divided in pages... | 21:44 |
x29a | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/ | 21:45 |
*** timo^ has quit IRC | 21:46 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
*** penguinbait has quit IRC | 21:51 | |
*** RST38h has quit IRC | 21:51 | |
MrPingu | Is there now any way to the directorytree in a textfile? | 21:57 |
x29a | mind telling your intentions? | 22:00 |
x29a | might be easier this way | 22:01 |
MrPingu | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82374&page=5 | 22:03 |
*** florian has joined #maemo | 22:04 | |
*** florian has joined #maemo | 22:04 | |
MrPingu | Sorting out all devel applications which have decent quality so they can get in the end to extras repo | 22:04 |
*** ZogGbear is now known as ZogG_hunter | 22:05 | |
*** bsdmaniak has joined #maemo | 22:05 | |
*** chenca has quit IRC | 22:10 | |
*** konelix_ has joined #maemo | 22:11 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 22:12 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 22:13 | |
*** konelix__ has joined #maemo | 22:15 | |
*** konelix_ has quit IRC | 22:16 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 22:18 | |
*** sheepbat has quit IRC | 22:19 | |
*** hardaker2 has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
*** ZogG_hunter is now known as ZogG_laptop | 22:21 | |
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC | 22:21 | |
*** NishanthMenon has joined #maemo | 22:21 | |
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo | 22:23 | |
*** bbee has joined #maemo | 22:27 | |
*** bbee has joined #maemo | 22:27 | |
*** Dynamit has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
*** Dynamit has joined #maemo | 22:29 | |
*** dhbiker has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
*** piggz has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
*** Venemo has quit IRC | 22:33 | |
*** sheepbat has joined #maemo | 22:33 | |
*** zeq1 has joined #maemo | 22:33 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 22:34 | |
*** DrGrov has joined #maemo | 22:35 | |
*** DrGrov has left #maemo | 22:37 | |
*** konelix has joined #maemo | 22:38 | |
*** XDS2010__ has joined #maemo | 22:39 | |
*** chenca has joined #maemo | 22:39 | |
*** konelix__ has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
*** konelix has quit IRC | 22:42 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 22:50 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 22:53 | |
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo | 22:53 | |
*** piggz has joined #maemo | 22:56 | |
*** etrunko has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
*** wicket64 has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
*** jhb has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
*** c3sso has joined #maemo | 23:00 | |
ZogG_laptop | MrPingu: ping | 23:03 |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
*** zeq has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
*** zeq1 has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
*** zeq has joined #maemo | 23:05 | |
*** _rd has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
*** cyborg-one has joined #maemo | 23:06 | |
*** zeq1 has joined #maemo | 23:06 | |
*** NIN101 has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
*** marainein has quit IRC | 23:10 | |
*** javispedro has joined #maemo | 23:13 | |
*** mase76 has joined #maemo | 23:20 | |
*** ruskie has quit IRC | 23:22 | |
MrPingu | ZogG_laptop: pong | 23:28 |
*** ferdna has joined #maemo | 23:29 | |
*** alehorst has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
*** alehorst has joined #maemo | 23:33 | |
*** _rd has joined #maemo | 23:37 | |
*** kodomo has quit IRC | 23:42 | |
*** ruskie has joined #maemo | 23:46 | |
*** kodomo has joined #maemo | 23:47 | |
*** Vlad_on_the_road has joined #maemo | 23:47 | |
*** piggz has quit IRC | 23:48 | |
*** mase76 has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
*** piggz has joined #maemo | 23:53 | |
MrPingu | Zogg_laptop: ping | 23:58 |
*** sq-one has quit IRC | 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!