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| jpinx | I just reflashed and rebooted n900. How do I get root? The old default root pwd does not appear to be accepted. I have no internet on the device - I need root so that I can connect through the laptop | 04:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | install rootsh | 07:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also install openssh, it asks for root password to set | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't use fapman to install, it's known to have problemns with that | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to get root, you use command `root` on device (or on ssh to user, you need to set user passwd to ssh to user account), or you do `ssh root@<your-n900-IP>` right away, which will ask for the root password | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there is no such thing like a default password | 07:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | . | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~messybox | 07:47 |
| infobot | messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal messybox | 07:47 |
| infobot | "messybox" is "<reply>messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils" | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: : no, messybox is <reply>messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su, passwd) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils | 07:48 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 07:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | guess why user can't set own password! X-P | 07:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah, actually passwd *is* a set-suid discrete binary. Well, I'm not awake yet | 07:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and it seems passwd pkg is a component of mp-fremantle-generic-pr | 08:30 |
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| jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: I'm in Catch-22 -- the n900 has no way to connect to the internet to install stuff, I need to do that through the laptop, but I need root to configure the n900 | 08:39 |
| jpinx | can I download rootsh as a.deb and install it by hand ? | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | download and cp via mass storage mode the rootsh.deb pkg | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, exactly | 08:40 |
| jpinx | ok - where's rootsh.deb to be found via http? | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | clicking on a .deb in filemanager should open HAM | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/rootsh/ | 08:41 |
| jpinx | thanks dude -- you encourage my laziness ;) | 08:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Fremantle Extras free armel | 08:43 |
| jpinx | I assume it's this one ... Fremantle Extras free armelrootsh 1.8 | 08:43 |
| jpinx | File: | 08:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/rootsh/ | 08:44 |
| jpinx | rootsh_1.8_all.deb | 08:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | open in browser, click 'install' | 08:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, sorry, no internet | 08:44 |
| jpinx | ;) | 08:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/r/rootsh/rootsh_1.8_all.deb | 08:45 |
| jpinx | :/ filemanager sulks while the device is mounted in mass storage mode on the laptop | 08:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never try to access /MyDocs or uSD card on device when in mass storage mode | 08:48 |
| * jpinx pulled the plug out,,,,, | 08:49 | |
| jpinx | installed now | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worst case you create phantom files that eat storage space while not visible when MyDocs gets re-mounted | 08:49 |
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| jpinx | eewww.. sounds nasty | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not filemanager that sucks, it's simply the umount necessary to export the fs | 08:50 |
| jpinx | I wonder if I can log into the n900 from the laptop and do the rest of the config on the command line over ssh | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ala Nokia 'forgot' to consider any reasonable way to lock or block the mountpoint dirs | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas* | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'd need ssh for that | 08:51 |
| jpinx | doh -- of course..... | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | same procedure | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then you need to care about connection between PC and N900. see wiki, search for networking | 08:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/ | 08:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, I found everything but WLAN direct access to internet a PITA on N900, to do any installing | 08:55 |
| jpinx | yea - I had that done a few years ago | 09:03 |
| jpinx | but I forgot how ;) | 09:04 |
| jpinx | now I have 2 n900's - one connected by gprs and the linux laptop connected to it as modem . , but now I need to connect the 2nd n900 through the laptop as well to get it online ;) | 09:05 |
| jpinx | no wifi here ;) | 09:05 |
| jpinx | 2nd n900 was a cheapy bought broken - I just fitted new screen, sorted kbd, reflashed and now works fine :) | 09:08 |
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| ebzzry | on the n900, is there a command that would simulate the camera button press? | 12:08 |
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| joga | ebzzry not sure but do you want to somehow simulate the actual event or just bring up the camera ui? | 12:48 |
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| ShadowJK | phone-control can take pic | 12:54 |
| kerio | ebzzry: look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 12:57 |
| ebzzry | phone-control can do it, but very limited. | 12:58 |
| ebzzry | some observations are: 1- objects are not in focus, 2- the exposure is borky, and 3- the resulting image is overall bad in quality. | 12:59 |
| ebzzry | the goal is to simulate taking a picture or video, remotely. | 12:59 |
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| vi_ | gstlaunch | 13:17 |
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| ebzzry | vi_: that's the same thing that phone-control uses. | 13:27 |
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| Vibe | hi | 15:11 |
| Vibe | theres no libdb4.8 for maemo? | 15:11 |
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| Vibe | seems just to be lib4.2 :/ | 15:12 |
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| Ionakka | Vibe: try building one from debian under maemo | 15:13 |
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| kgu | MohammadAG: What would it take to make Sociality hide the same updates as a user choose to hide on facebook.com? | 16:18 |
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| vi_ | back from holiday? | 17:11 |
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| jonwil | pali: pinh | 17:46 |
| Pali | jonwil, pong | 17:46 |
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| Pali | jonwil, prolog is decompiled | 17:46 |
| Pali | source changed and compiled back | 17:46 |
| Pali | and headset button is working on my n900 :-) | 17:47 |
| jonwil | how did you completly decompile the prolog? | 17:47 |
| Pali | predicate listing() | 17:47 |
| Pali | and that predicate which return all prediates | 17:47 |
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| Pali | I created shell script which do it automatically (detect source prolog file, ...) | 17:47 |
| Pali | and all needed glue (like :- module(...) ) | 17:48 |
| jonwil | ok, neat | 17:48 |
| Pali | and I created deb package policy-settings-rx51 which compile prolog code at compile time | 17:48 |
| jonwil | you should post the decompiled prolog code somewhere... | 17:48 |
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| Pali | + add binary dresc file | 17:48 |
| Pali | yes, I'm waiting for merlin to create cssu repo for that | 17:49 |
| jonwil | ok | 17:49 |
| Pali | I have git repo on my hdd, but I do not have permission for creating cssu repo | 17:49 |
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| Pali | For creating script I used our prolog investigation from irc log | 17:49 |
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| Pali | I looked at dres file in ohm console and it show me that ohm has only information that there exists some "jackbias" fact | 17:50 |
| Pali | so in my opinion, policy.dresc contains only initial value for jackbias, nothing more | 17:51 |
| jonwil | ok | 17:51 |
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| jonwil | I dont think its worth trying to decompile the policy.dresc file | 17:52 |
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| Pali | basicly when you connect to ohm console, you can get all fact database state | 17:52 |
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| Pali | and also it show pseudo byte code for dres (pseudo)functions | 17:53 |
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| Pali | rewriting that functions to human readable code will be hard | 17:54 |
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| Pali | ohm console show ohm function instructions in some objdump -d style | 17:54 |
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| Pali | but we do not need it now | 17:55 |
| Pali | main problem - enable headset button - is fixed | 17:55 |
| Pali | but I still do not know if all prolog code was decompiled and if nothing is missing | 17:55 |
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| Pali | at least it working on my n900 for one week without problem... | 17:56 |
| jonwil | ok | 17:56 |
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| MohammadAG | kgu: If Facebook returns the data of a hidden user it's a bug on their side | 18:19 |
| jacekowski | MohammadAG: what about the thing you were talking to me about? | 18:21 |
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| Pali | MohammadAG, can you create cssu git repo policy-settings-rx51? | 18:25 |
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| Venemo | ~seen ajalkane | 19:48 |
| infobot | ajalkane <~ajalkane@a88-115-212-112.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 22h 3m 54s ago, saying: 'djszapi_: o/'. | 19:48 |
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| kgu | MohammadAG: It is not actually a hidden user, but you know, if you choose to hide some specific stuff like fortune cookie crap and so on | 20:10 |
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| Usrdvarok | can someone explain to me what the relationship is between maemo and meego? | 22:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Maemo is a discontinued Nokia product | 22:02 |
| kerio | Usrdvarok: maemo is a good OS | 22:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | MeeGo is what was formed when Intel and Nokia joined Moblin and Maemo. | 22:02 |
| Usrdvarok | so is meego still linux based? | 22:03 |
| Usrdvarok | and what phones run meego? | 22:04 |
| ShadowJK | N9. | 22:07 |
| ShadowJK | oops, lagged | 22:07 |
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| kerio | Usrdvarok: the N9 runs something weird | 22:11 |
| * teotwaki_ tips hat at GeneralAntilles | 22:11 | |
| teotwaki_ | ~ping | 22:11 |
| infobot | ~pong | 22:11 |
| teotwaki_ | ~ping | 22:11 |
| teotwaki_ | ~ping | 22:11 |
| teotwaki_ | ah, finally | 22:11 |
| teotwaki_ | that was a long lag. | 22:11 |
| teotwaki_ | GeneralAntilles: did you get my PMs? | 22:11 |
| kerio | teotwaki_: /ping will also work, and will only bother the server :) | 22:11 |
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| teotwaki_ | kerio: like it bothered you :P | 22:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | teotwaki_, sorry, researching pool pumps. | 22:12 |
| kerio | i bet she does, i bet she does | 22:12 |
| kerio | wink wink nudge nudge saynomore | 22:12 |
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| teotwaki_ | she? | 22:19 |
| teotwaki_ | wait, what? | 22:19 |
| teotwaki_ | oh, and to complete the wink wink, nudge nudge: stomp stomp. | 22:19 |
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