IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2012-07-18

DocScrutinizer05	wut? at 31°C?	00:00
RST38h	Mohammad: +38oC at Maryland right now	00:00
RST38h	Mohammad: Sunny. 29% humidity	00:00
RST38h	Mohammad: That is actually somewhat low for this time of year. Hope you feel better now.	00:01
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jacekowski	MohammadAG: do you know anything about saudi arabia?	00:20
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MohammadAG	besides it being and hot and the people being rich but spending all their money on car hydraulics and tire rims with most of them dying in accidents cause of that, nope	00:21
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MohammadAG	- first and	00:21
jacekowski	really?	00:21
MohammadAG	well, anything else? :P	00:21
MohammadAG	RST38h, 29% is good	00:21
jacekowski	dunno, i'll be going there next week probably	00:22
MohammadAG	it's like 200% here	00:22
jacekowski	and i'm doing some research	00:22
jacekowski	and i thought you may know something	00:22
MohammadAG	stay away from roads at night	00:22
jacekowski	why?	00:22
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MohammadAG	jacekowski, I can't find the not re-upped vid, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVNkc_uM58Q	00:26
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MohammadAG	jacekowski, cause? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGt0RnZcO88&feature=related	00:27
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jacekowski	MohammadAG: but that's day not night	00:32
MohammadAG	jacekowski, nights are worse	00:37
merlin1991	MohammadAG: but the http://youtu.be/dGt0RnZcO88?t=38s part is quite impressive	00:40
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MohammadAG	heh	00:40
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DocScrutinizer05	jacekowski: do you by any chance know of any SiErr in OMAP4 IRQ handling?	00:53
DocScrutinizer05	or suspend/resume handling?	00:55
DocScrutinizer05	even of any TI patches	00:55
DocScrutinizer05	freemangordon: ^^^	00:55
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DocScrutinizer05	at least any clue whom/where to ask, or what to google for?	00:58
jacekowski	nope	00:58
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zeq	In case anybody's wondering, I'm still about. I've just been really busy...	01:35
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DocScrutinizer05	about?	02:02
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DocScrutinizer05	memtest&; sleep 6h; aplay alarm.wav; kill memtest	02:03
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RiD	so many net splits muahahah	04:41
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GYureK	hi there	06:52
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freemangordon	zeq: ping	10:17
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LaoLang_cool	How to export contact head image?	10:31
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LaoLang_cool	another question, contacts uses png to save the contact head image, can I change it to jpg? because the head image in the exported contact vcf can't be used in other phones, they expect a jpg head image	10:33
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kerio	LaoLang_cool: ImageMagick's convert for your last problem, i s'pose	10:40
LaoLang_cool	kerio, I don't understand, the png info has been encoded in the vcf file, how to decode it?	10:40
psycho_oreos	there are software that can open vcf files	10:42
psycho_oreos	that in itself is a hint	10:42
LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, vcf is a plain text, so any editor can open it...	10:43
psycho_oreos	LaoLang_cool, except you wouldn't expect a vcf file to contain a readable form of the image for the selected contact no?	10:44
LaoLang_cool	I try to import the contacts with microsoft outlook, but outlook doesn't support png too, the head image is blank after imported	10:44
LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, any software recommended?	10:44
psycho_oreos	so use imagemagic or whatever to convert it into jpg or whatever format outlook supports	10:44
LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, how to get the png file in vcf?	10:45
psycho_oreos	LaoLang_cool, probably it may make life easier? unless you want to start hacking away a sed script that'll cut out where the lines contains information about the contact in image format　(that's if you could find it easily) and then use appropriate software that can convert whatever format is the image into some other format?	10:45
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LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, the png information in vcf has been transformed to text string, I can't get the png by copy the text string and save it into another file and rename it to foo.png	10:47
LaoLang_cool	Do I misunderstand you?	10:48
psycho_oreos	LaoLang_cool, I admit that was a rather poor example.. but have you actually bothered to try looking for ways to actually read vcf files or are you just going to keep asking and hopefully someone will give you the correct answer?	10:48
psycho_oreos	my point was to solely point out that unless you know what you're doing, you might as well try and look for a software first that might be able to do it for you	10:49
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psycho_oreos	i.e. there's no need to reinvent the wheel	10:50
LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, I failed with outlook, any other recommended? I can't find the software to read vcf and know the png in it	10:50
LaoLang_cool	Yes, looking for a software to understand png in vcf	10:51
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psycho_oreos	LaoLang_cool, there's always the search engine and there might be an option from kerio had you bothered to give that a try as well	10:51
LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, imagemagic is a image tool, not a vcf reader, I know kerio want me to convert png to jpg.	10:52
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psycho_oreos	LaoLang_cool, and here's the results from google: http://labs.brotherli.ch/vcfconvert/	10:54
psycho_oreos	...	10:54
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LaoLang_cool	The key is that I don't know how to or use which tool to read the vcf that use png to store the head image	10:55
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LaoLang_cool	psycho_oreos, thank you, will try it :)	10:55
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psycho_oreos	that isn't the key when you have plenty of search engines to use	10:55
LaoLang_cool	vcf to csv? oh no...	10:56
psycho_oreos	... it is a drop down list fyi	10:56
LaoLang_cool	csv doesn't support head image info	10:56
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qwazix_900	LaoLang_cool: maybe png in vcf is base64 data uri?	10:57
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, maybe, in vcf version 2	10:57
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LaoLang_cool	I prefer the version 3, I exported the contacts in version3, since it's human readable	10:58
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qwazix_900	and how does v3 file look like if opened n text editor?	10:59
LaoLang_cool	I don't understand why maemo chooise png instead of jpg?	10:59
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, wait some minites, will paste it	10:59
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693	11:01
LaoLang_cool	oh, it's a jpeg type...	11:01
LaoLang_cool	I use a wrong example, sorry	11:01
qwazix_900	It looks like base64	11:03
qwazix_900	regardless of format	11:03
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LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, ok, so how to convert it into a image file?	11:03
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LaoLang_cool	I don't know what a format of base64 means at all :(	11:04
qwazix_900	you should write a script (preferably in php, which has a lot of functions to manipulate text and data URI's)	11:04
qwazix_900	that reads that big unreadable string	11:04
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, any existed tool?	11:05
qwazix_900	and saves it to a .png file	11:05
qwazix_900	I doubt it	11:05
LaoLang_cool	oh...	11:05
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qwazix_900	but I can send you a code I wrote that takes an image from the clipboard and converts it to base64 to study	11:05
qwazix_900	you need to do the opposite, convert to jpg, reencode and replace	11:06
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, thank you, but I don't know programming at all... I should find a tool to read vcf and support the info of png in it	11:06
qwazix_900	shouldn't be more than 20 lines of code	11:06
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, is it a shell script?	11:07
qwazix_900	no php script, it doable in shell scripting too but the syntax is far more cryptic	11:07
qwazix_900	*is	11:08
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LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, ok, I don't even know how to run a php script... so I need to install a php?	11:08
qwazix_900	yes, do you run linux or win?	11:08
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, running windows xp sp3	11:09
LaoLang_cool	oh, thing becomes complicated	11:09
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qwazix_900	http://php.net/manual/en/install.windows.commandline.php	11:10
qwazix_900	sorry wrong link	11:10
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, thank you for you so kindly help! I think it's too complicated for me to understand..	11:11
LaoLang_cool	I will try my best!	11:12
qwazix_900	http://windows.php.net/download/	11:12
qwazix_900	or you can install wamp	11:12
LaoLang_cool	wamp?	11:13
qwazix_900	but it installs also apache and mysql which you won't need	11:13
LaoLang_cool	oh!	11:13
LaoLang_cool	too bloat...	11:13
qwazix_900	it contains php, and has an easy graphical installer	11:13
qwazix_900	uninstalls cleanly though	11:13
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LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, which version of php should I choose?	11:13
qwazix_900	(as cleanly as can any app uninstall in windows, that is)	11:14
qwazix_900	use 5.4	11:14
qwazix_900	5.3 should be ok too (that's what I use)	11:14
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, VC9 x86 Non Thread Safe or VC9 x86 Thread Safe?	11:14
LaoLang_cool	I don't know what the name means...	11:14
qwazix_900	neither do I, but for your use it shouldn't matter	11:15
qwazix_900	it's something about having multiple php scripts running at the same time	11:15
LaoLang_cool	oh, will get VC9 x86 Non Thread Safe, since it's smaller ;p	11:16
qwazix_900	then you write a .php file and run it from cmd with php.exe yourfile.php	11:16
qwazix_900	check out the following commands	11:16
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, ok	11:17
qwazix_900	glob, preg_match, preg_replace, foreach, file_get_contents	11:17
qwazix_900	base64_decode	11:18
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qwazix_900	file_put_contents	11:18
qwazix_900	that's about all you'll need	11:19
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, just 3 lines?	11:19
qwazix_900	no, I just gave you the commands you'll be needing	11:19
qwazix_900	you'll have to do some reading to see how to use them	11:19
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, ok	11:20
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, I will try it later, thank you for your kindly help!	11:21
qwazix_900	you 're welcome, and happy programming :)	11:22
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LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, I'm trying to find some online service, like http://www.base64decode.org/	11:23
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LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, where is the encoding become? Is it the strings after 'PHOTO;TYPE=jpeg;ENCODING='?	11:24
LaoLang_cool	s/become/begin/	11:25
infobot	LaoLang_cool meant: qwazix_900, where is the encoding begin? Is it the strings after 'PHOTO;TYPE=jpeg;ENCODING='?	11:25
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DocScrutinizer05	LaoLang_cool: on linux you can use uudecode	11:35
DocScrutinizer05	man uudecode	11:35
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LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, where is the encoded text begin? in the example at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693	11:37
LaoLang_cool	will find if there is uudecode on maemo ;p	11:37
DocScrutinizer05	where you assumed it begins	11:37
DocScrutinizer05	well, on my maemo/N900 there is uudecode/uuencode	11:39
LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, say I can use uudecode to decode a file contain base64 string to a binary file: uudecode -i encode_file -o decode_file.png, so what should be in the encode_file in the sample at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693	11:39
LaoLang_cool	oh, no uudecode on maemo...	11:39
LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, oh, I have too, yeah	11:39
LaoLang_cool	it's a built-in cmd in busybox or busybox-power I guess	11:40
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DocScrutinizer05	probably	11:40
DocScrutinizer05	according to manpage you need uudecode -m for base64	11:41
DocScrutinizer05	hmm, not on maemo	11:42
LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, I wil read the manpage, running uudecode -o foo.jpg base64file says uudecode: no 'begin' line	11:43
DocScrutinizer05	well, that's a message relating to usual usecase for uuencoding: mails	11:44
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DocScrutinizer05	aiui you could e.g. do ~#echo 'your/encoded/datastring/after/ENCODING="\|uudecode -o somefile.png	11:46
DocScrutinizer05	or somefile.jpg	11:47
LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, sorry, need to be out for a while, will be back then :(	11:47
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vi_	freemangordon: ping	12:08
vi_	freemangordon: PING	12:08
vi_	freemangordon: PING PING PING PING PING PING!	12:08
kerio	my n900 just... locked up	12:09
kerio	except for the lock slider	12:09
vi_	my	12:10
vi_	n950	12:10
vi_	just	12:10
vi_	arrived	12:10
vi_	shipped in less than 20 hours from Finland.	12:10
vi_	Now THAT is service!	12:10
joga	wat!	12:11
joga	I want one too :(	12:11
qwazix_900	LaoLang_cool: sorry was away. That is it yes	12:11
vi_	Why did thay abandon this?	12:12
vi_	This is the sexiest piece of hardware I have ever seen.	12:12
kerio	vi_: i want one!	12:12
vi_	It is all metal 'nd shit.	12:12
kerio	goddammit	12:12
vi_	kerio: Yours for only 2500 euros.	12:13
kerio	done	12:13
vi_	lol, really?	12:13
kerio	i'll pay after i get it though	12:13
vi_	Because I do not accept paypal.	12:13
kerio	i want to make sure	12:13
vi_	kerio: BWAHAHAHAAAAA!	12:13
vi_	Nope.	12:13
kerio	:c	12:13
joga	I say we go and mug vi_	12:14
joga	(if we lose he gets to keep it)	12:14
joga	;)	12:14
vi_	I would like to see you try,	12:14
joga	there would be many of us! but seriously, where do you even get those in the first place?	12:15
vi_	I won it.	12:16
DocScrutinizer05	on ebay	12:16
vi_	Surprisingly.	12:16
vi_	Also, ebay.	12:16
vi_	One just sold on ebay for 2000 euros!	12:16
vi_	Some one paid £1500 GBP for one.	12:16
kerio	i want one :(	12:17
vi_	That is more than I get paid in a month AFTER tax.	12:17
kerio	does fremantle run on it?	12:17
joga	hah, 2ke is a bit too much	12:17
vi_	kerio: Nothing runs in it. It is COMPLETELY obselete.	12:17
kerio	then... why?	12:18
kerio	also does it run angry birds?	12:18
vi_	DocScrutinizer05: How do I close stuff?	12:19
kerio	vi_: remove the battery	12:20
kerio	OH WAIT	12:20
vi_	kerio: Yes, It does have a removeable battery.	12:21
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vi_	DocScrutinizer05: So what files does aegis actually 'protect'	12:29
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DocScrutinizer05	~may-i-edit	12:30
infobot	mayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; }	12:30
DocScrutinizer05	vi_: close: click&hold on taskswitcher screen	12:32
DocScrutinizer05	or swipe from upside down (only works on newer OS rev)	12:33
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Termana	It'd be interesting to know who is putting their N950s on ebay, but I suppose with Nokia's now complete abandonment of Maemo/MeeGo they won't exactly be going Apple Gestapo on these people.	12:37
DocScrutinizer05	hey, there are actually sell'able N950: the commercial DDP are 'locked' for only 6 months afaik, and the CA are a gift anyway	12:39
DocScrutinizer05	so N950 probably is one of the rarest Nokia phones ever, alongside some diamond-covered silly things built by their luxury-spinoff	12:40
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zeq	freemangordon: pong	12:42
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ShadowJK	I read an interesting thingy about Jolla, apparently jolla was created through an "incubator" program that Nokia setup after announcing the mass layoffs.	12:42
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DocScrutinizer05	bridge	12:43
* DocScrutinizer05 heard the term "bridge"		12:43
teotwaki	Termana: there's n950s on ebay?	12:44
Termana	The bridge to get off the burning platform?	12:44
DocScrutinizer05	wonder hwy I think of "wlaking the strake" on a ship when I hear that term	12:44
Termana	teotwaki: I haven't personally seen any, but it was being discussed above that one sold on ebay for 2000 euros, another for 1500 GBP	12:45
teotwaki	actually... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-N950-dev-phone-/200789345222?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2ebffa43c6#ht_500wt_1413	12:45
teotwaki	500 quid	12:45
teotwaki	I LOL'd at the question: Someone is asking for it to be sent to Finland...	12:45
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Termana	heh	12:46
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StyXman	DocScrutinizer05: walking the plank?	12:46
DocScrutinizer05	whatever the correct term	12:46
DocScrutinizer05	ding left me in a pinch here	12:47
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freemangordon	vi_: me has a new toy too :D:D:D	12:56
vi_	freemangordon: !!!!	12:56
zeq	freemangordon: cool :)	12:56
freemangordon	zeq: hi	12:56
vi_	teotwaki: That guy has sold an N950 before.	12:56
zeq	hi freemangordon	12:56
freemangordon	where you've been man	12:56
vi_	Or he has ripped off another advert	12:57
freemangordon	vi_: but I am still unable to power it up	12:57
zeq	I've somehow just been busy with other things.	12:57
freemangordon	normal?	12:57
vi_	freemangordon: Yes, the battery is utterly flat as fuck.	12:57
vi_	You will need to charge it for some minutes.	12:57
freemangordon	zeq: aahh, ok, glad to hear everything is ok on your side	12:57
vi_	Also, remove the plastic that covers the screen.	12:57
freemangordon	vi_: yeah, i thought the same	12:58
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freemangordon	vi_: are you kidding me?	12:58
vi_	freemangordon: wrtw?	12:58
freemangordon	for plastic cover	12:58
zeq	So you guys like your N950s?	12:58
freemangordon	zeq: romaxa commented on the bug	12:58
vi_	The plastic sticker thing	12:58
freemangordon	vi_: I know	12:58
freemangordon	I am not THAT stupid	12:59
freemangordon	:D	12:59
freemangordon	zeq: it looks awesome	12:59
vi_	freemangordon: It is beautyful hardware.	12:59
zeq	freemangordon: I'll have to take a look. I didn't get around to attatching the cleaned up patches.	12:59
vi_	Made of metal.	12:59
freemangordon	powering up	12:59
vi_	However I know it will never reach the levels of awesome that the N900 has.	13:00
StyXman	lucky bastards :-P	13:00
zeq	I'll certainly buy a Jolla phone if they make one in a useful form factor, N900/N950 like.	13:00
freemangordon	the screen is awful :(	13:00
vi_	How so?	13:00
freemangordon	the colors and so	13:00
vi_	How do I know what software version it has?	13:01
vi_	I have 1.2011.22-6_pr_rm680	13:01
vi_	Also, why no landscape!	13:02
vi_	How do I get a root xterm?	13:02
kerio	can you even get one, considering aegis exists?	13:03
Termana	vi_: you're on Harmattan Beta 1	13:03
zeq	vi_: I remember reading you need to activate dev mode	13:03
freemangordon	vi_: who exactly do you ask on #maemo?	13:03
vi_	Well it says 'developer mode on everything.	13:03
freemangordon	wrogn channel bro :P	13:03
zeq	vi_: maybe you need to reboot?	13:03
vi_	good point	13:04
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zeq	guys, you really probably would be better putting mer on it...	13:04
zeq	;)	13:04
vi_	zeq: Does mer evern work?	13:05
zeq	afaik	13:05
vi_	With ALL the hardware?	13:05
zeq	try it and see?	13:06
vi_	freemangordon: What colour is your one?	13:06
Termana	vi_: you're going to have to upgrade, IIRC the old repositories were pulled down as they went along. You're using a really old version, newer version don't have developer edition all over it. Once you have upgraded though you go to Settings -> Security -> Developer Mode, flick it on	13:06
Termana	versions*	13:06
vi_	zeq: I am afraid of the N950 becomming a massive time-hole for free time I just do not have.	13:07
Termana	and then you can use devel-su and develsh to get root in the terminal it installs	13:07
zeq	according to #mer it's one of their adapted platforms. How comprehensive the hw support is, I don't know	13:07
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freemangordon	vi_: black	13:09
Gh0sty	is there any (except with a hammer) way to disable the behavior of an n900 that it will start doing an refresh of the package list as soon as you connect to 3g?	13:09
Gh0sty	if necessary i want to disable doing automatic updates connected to any network at all	13:10
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Gh0sty	i think it just flushed almost half of my datavolume (25MB) today just by connecting to 3g and in the background it probably started an "apt-get update" because it all of the sudden showed a warning that there is an update available for something ...	13:11
psycho_oreos	Gh0sty, there's a wiki entry about this, its to do with gconf	13:11
freemangordon	what is the password for devel-su?	13:11
vi_	Gh0sty: gconftool -s --type int /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval 99999999	13:11
Gh0sty	oh i was expecting it was something dbus like that triggered updates when connected	13:12
Gh0sty	nice!	13:12
Gh0sty	thx	13:12
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psycho_oreos	Gh0sty, fyi: http://wiki.maemo.org/How_to_personalize_your_N900#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check	13:14
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Gh0sty	ok thx	13:15
freemangordon	vi_: how am i supposed to check the amount of ram, storage space, etc?	13:15
vi_	free	13:16
vi_	df /	13:16
psycho_oreos	df -h	13:16
vi_	i dunno lol.	13:16
freemangordon	ok, thanks	13:16
freemangordon	:D	13:16
freemangordon	ok, seems like 1G of RAM ang 16G storage	13:18
psycho_oreos	on n9?	13:18
freemangordon	950	13:19
psycho_oreos	ahh nods	13:19
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zeq	1G nice	13:22
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joga	!	13:23
joga	:(	13:23
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zeq	freemangordon: I've replied to romaxa. I need to go out now, I'll be back late afternoon. I'll try to stay online while travelling.	13:35
freemangordon	zeq: ok	13:36
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zeq	freemangordon: I rebased fennec yesterday, it needs to be build with --disable-webrtc	13:44
LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, sorry for away, I've tested with the base64 string at http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/138693, save the string into a file basefile, then cat basefile \| uudecode -o foo.jpg, still error: uudecode: no 'begin' line	13:45
zeq	freemangordon: I rebased fennec yesterday, it needs to be build with "--disable-webrtc"	13:45
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, hi, sorry for away, a much easier way for me is arriving :)	13:45
LaoLang_cool	I think the base64 string starts with '/9j/4AAQSkZ'...	13:46
vi_	freemangordon: updating...	13:47
vi_	I am amused it still says meego on everything.	13:48
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freemangordon	vi_: yeah	13:58
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LaoLang_cool	DocScrutinizer05, thank you! I success finally! a file of base64 must have a line like: "begin-base64 777 test", and end with a line "===="	14:13
LaoLang_cool	then it could be decoded with uudecode -o foo.jpg base64file	14:14
LaoLang_cool	qwazix_900, thank you too!	14:14
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vi_	holy shit updating takes forever.	14:19
vi_	I am at 33%	14:19
freemangordon	15% here :(	14:19
vi_	in 33 minutes!	14:19
freemangordon	yeah, it is sloooow	14:19
vi_	This is the sexiest hardware I have ever seen.	14:20
freemangordon	BTW iDont post on TMO that after the update he run into a bootloop, so be prepared	14:20
vi_	It is a shame they did not make a case for it.	14:20
freemangordon	vi_: yeah, really looks and feel good	14:20
vi_	freemangordon: lame	14:20
vi_	The aluminum is soooo smooth against my buttocks.	14:21
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vi_	chem\|st: yo	14:21
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vi_	chem\|st: Tell me what you tink of this thing...	14:22
vi_	http://www.goldwingforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3046	14:22
vi_	^thing	14:23
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Lava_Croft	hmm .nl	14:36
Lava_Croft	looks like a motorcycle for people from the east of NL	14:36
Lava_Croft	since we have asphalt in the west	14:37
vi_	Lava_Croft: You do not understand.	14:37
vi_	It is a honda goldwing.	14:37
Lava_Croft	yes, i do understand	14:37
Lava_Croft	hence my remark about asphalt:)	14:37
vi_	A bike SOOO MASSIVE it has a double armchair and cup holders.	14:37
Lava_Croft	i can read Dutch	14:37
vi_	Here somone has turned it into an offroader.	14:38
vi_	fair enough.	14:38
Lava_Croft	the project itself is pretty nice indeed	14:38
Lava_Croft	some fine work	14:38
Lava_Croft	i was just making a silly remark about people in the east needing a motorcrossbike:)	14:38
vi_	I think it is beautyful.	14:38
Lava_Croft	its not my style	14:38
Lava_Croft	but it sure looks like it doesnt take shit from nobody	14:38
vi_	Lava_Croft: The irony is it would be the shittest offroad bike evr.	14:38
Lava_Croft	naturally	14:39
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Lava_Croft	can vi also read dutch orso	14:39
Lava_Croft	how do people end up on a dutchie goldwing forum	14:39
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chem\|st	vi_: just seen pictures a week ago or so..	14:41
chem\|st	vi_: BMW awesomness	14:41
chem\|st	my dad told me about...	14:43
chem\|st	he ordered one of these http://www.motorrad.net/sites/default/files/bilder_redaktion/news/2011/Horex.jpg though	14:45
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Lava_Croft	motorbikes are a good way to make use of the socialized healthcare in your country	14:47
chem\|st	organ donors on wheelZ	14:49
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vi_	chem\|st: It is called recycling.	14:54
vi_	Although riding a motorcycle is 20 times LESS dangerous than horse riding.	14:54
vi_	FACT.	14:54
Lava_Croft	i use horses for dinner	14:55
Lava_Croft	not for riding	14:55
vi_	Lava_Croft: I found it because I often cruise the internet looking for crazy ass bikes, and that 'xr1500' was one of the most nuts I have seen.	14:55
Lava_Croft	ah	14:55
vi_	chem\|st: Tell your father has fine taste!	14:55
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vi_	It looks like a new, slightly old school bike.	14:55
vi_	...and now my N950 will not boot.	14:56
Lava_Croft	the bike chem\|st linked is stylish indeed	14:56
vi_	-_-	14:56
Lava_Croft	you see this style of bikes more and more!	14:56
Lava_Croft	much better than the standard old boring racing monster bike	14:56
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Lava_Croft	http://i.imgur.com/ofmiv.gif	14:56
Lava_Croft	a good visualization of what happens to a lot of people who buy such a racemonster bike	14:56
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vi_	...	14:57
zeq	vi_: after updating?	14:57
vi_	yes	14:58
vi_	it has sat at the nokia screen for around 17 minutes.	14:59
zeq	bootloader not updated properly?	14:59
zeq	can you force it into flash mode like N900?	15:00
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vi__	I literally have no idea.	15:01
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vi__	Holy shit.	15:03
vi__	It is a 1GB download...	15:03
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vi__	Thank goodness for my 5MB/s work connection.	15:03
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vi__	woot, it lives!	15:32
vi__	1 click flasher - good science.	15:32
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Macer	oh yeah? where?	15:41
Macer	i need to flash my n810	15:41
Macer	i wonder if i can run bare metal debian on it without a chroot	15:41
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merlin1991	Macer: flasher3.5 + an image from somewhere?	15:51
merlin1991	ROFL	15:52
merlin1991	wiki is down	15:52
merlin1991	srly	15:52
Macer	heh	15:52
Macer	surprised maemo.org is even up	15:52
Macer	figured the nokia penny pinchers would shut it down pretty soon	15:52
Macer	or replace it with a MS Windows Server server ;)	15:53
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merlin1991	vi__: I'm currently facing the same problem :D	15:56
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vi__	heh	15:59
vi__	they took the majesty that is maemo and have turned it into a dumbfone OS.	16:00
vi__	Nothing has a 'close' button.	16:00
vi__	I have to swipe this wayt and that.	16:00
vi__	Then press and hold some shit	16:00
vi__	THEN i can close stuff.	16:00
vi__	I may as well be flapping at the screen like a spastic walrus.	16:01
StyXman	vi__: gestures are the future	16:02
vi__	With stunted flippers.	16:02
vi__	StyXman: Buttons are the future.	16:03
StyXman	vi__: are the past, but I agree that they're better	16:04
StyXman	I would kill for hardware answer/hang buttons	16:04
vi__	So what is the easiest way to install easydebian?	16:05
vi__	Is there a nice package like for the n900?	16:05
StyXman	I remember a package for that, but I never tried	16:06
vi__	is there an equivalent of 'development' repositories?	16:07
StyXman	extras-devel?	16:08
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merlin1991	vi__: how long did the oneclickflasher take for you?	16:11
vi__	like 30 minutes	16:12
vi__	it has not hung at 'erasing,,,' do not worry!	16:12
merlin1991	was just wondering, because the "erasing" step was way shorter when I flashed my n9 :D	16:12
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vi__	step1: remap this keyboard to be less gimpy.	16:32
vi__	step2: install vim.	16:32
chem\|st	vi__: found vim?	16:33
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vi__	no...	16:33
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Ariadeno	has anyone managed to run armedslack on n900 with chroot scripts?	16:55
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vi__	Ariadeno: I do not think it has been tried.	16:57
Ariadeno	guess I have to try myself then..	16:57
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vi__	As I said #harmattan, a flock of dicks	17:07
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Ariadeno	vi_: Be careful they're watching you :P	17:09
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DocScrutinizer51	vi__: (maemo turned into....) couldn't agree more	18:48
DocScrutinizer51	vi__: now you got an idea why i still use n900 and support cssu	18:49
vi__	DocScrutinizer51: Still, the hardware is hot!	18:49
DocScrutinizer51	sure	18:49
vi__	DocScrutinizer51: Just gotta remap that dumbass keyboard.	18:50
vi__	And whats with the busybox?	18:51
vi__	Again?	18:51
DocScrutinizer51	but don't tell anybody, or we won't be able to sell n950 eventually for 2kEUR	18:51
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vi__	I am seriously tempted.	18:52
vi__	I could just about afford a down payment on a house then.	18:52
vi__	A house>N950.	18:52
DocScrutinizer51	otherwise n950 was strictly outdoor usage XP	18:53
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Raimu	Heh, Raspi people ported Debian Linux as hard float on Raspi. "Raspbian" :P	19:00
Raimu	A friend of mine was showboating his Raspi the day before yesterday. It's funny when the RJ45 cable was heavy enough to pull the computer down the table.	19:01
vi__	heh	19:02
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ZogG_laptop	Raimu: and FishPi as well	19:16
Raimu	ZogG_laptop: Haha, yes.	19:17
ZogG_laptop	i have to wait few months till i get mine as iwas told on site i ordered. i hope the change in availability would boost things up	19:18
joga	heh, tried last night how long my weird and tiny thai phone could record voice, it didn't have a memory card so when mostly fully recharged I left it to record overnight and now that I looked at it it was still on at the recording screen, stopped and saying there's only 13s space left :)	19:23
joga	and there was a 13 hour, 55 min voice memo heh	19:24
joga	and one bar of battery still :)	19:24
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Raimu	ZogG_laptop: I'm kinda good until I get mine in early autumn. All the software's still heavily in development and I have no problem waiting over the summer. Tech crap's better for winters, anyway, here in cold Finland. :P	20:47
ruskie	http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120628&CC=US&NR=2012162119A1&KC=A1 <-- hmm	20:50
Raimu	They're... patenting scrollbars?	20:52
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ruskie	Raimu, hide-away ones	20:53
Raimu	-_-	20:53
pronto	-.-	20:55
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ZogG_laptop	Raimu: the news saying now you can order more than one, you can order A model and no waiting.	21:56
ZogG_laptop	ruskie: ping	21:56
ruskie	KLANG	21:57
ruskie	ZogG_laptop, I thought they still only had B models	21:58
* ruskie is happy with his RPi		21:58
ZogG_laptop	ruskie: sup, haven't talk to you ages =)	21:58
ruskie	hehe	21:58
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ZogG_laptop	ruskie: i didn't finish scrobbler for you =(	22:00
ruskie	don't worry about it	22:00
ZogG_laptop	actually i feel bad about it =)	22:01
ruskie	don't	22:01
ZogG_laptop	maybe i'll get n900 from MohammadAG, than i'll be able to finish it and maybe improve/rewrite player	22:01
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ruskie	heh	22:02
ruskie	I'm using a sandisk clip with rockbox as my primary portable music device anyway	22:02
japh	clip++ !	22:02
japh	I have 4 of them :-)	22:02
ruskie	only 1 here	22:02
ZogG_laptop	ruskie: i have n950, i need to find time to set scratchbox and port xmms2 to it	22:03
guampa	hello, i'm disassembling my n900 to try and fix the USB port, it started with false contacts today	22:03
ruskie	but have 2 pebbles and a 2g shuffle	22:03
japh	I'm using 2 of them permantently mounted in the car	22:03
ruskie	hehe	22:03
ZogG_laptop	ruskie: as well as i want remote controler/client for n9	22:03
guampa	anyone know of some useful resource for this?	22:03
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japh	(there's rockbox for n900...)	22:03
ruskie	guampa, I believe there's something on tmo	22:03
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ZogG_laptop	guampa: be carefull, there is huge thread on TMO on how to fix it	22:04
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ZogG_laptop	guampa: but be carefull with expo if you use it, i killed my n900 this way	22:04
guampa	TMO?	22:04
ZogG_laptop	~tmo	22:04
infobot	i heard tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's not T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen.	22:04
guampa	right now i have two halves joined by a thin ... ehhh	22:04
guampa	dunno how its spelled	22:04
ruskie	flex cable?	22:04
kerio	~T-MO	22:04
infobot	extra, extra, read all about it, t-mo is T-Mobile	22:04
guampa	oh, great, thanks	22:04
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ZogG_laptop	guampa: check talks.maemo.org - search for usb fix or something	22:05
guampa	ruskie: that	22:05
guampa	ok	22:05
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ruskie	japh, I'd prefer something with a bit more remote control for incar use... but I do use it at times	22:06
ZogG_laptop	about patent, may i patent the "patenting troll"?	22:06
ZogG_laptop	ruskie: have you seen the WIP of android xmms2 client?	22:07
japh	ruskie, I control the clip from the steering wheel... no searching or so obviously, just next/prev/die/play etc	22:07
ruskie	japh, steering wheel controls? or just attached there?	22:08
japh	in the work car I'm still using the n900, mplayer + transmit over fm	22:08
japh	controls	22:08
ruskie	ah	22:08
ruskie	I don't have those	22:08
japh	I can mount usb thing in the ... console thingy between the seats	22:08
japh	not sure what it's called	22:08
ruskie	heh	22:08
ZogG_laptop	in car you can use radio =)	22:08
japh	for some reason in my own car that doesn't work very well	22:09
japh	it works great in work car, though.	22:09
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vi__	freemangordon: hows the n950 FMG?	22:12
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DocScrutinizer06	[2012-07-18 17:52:28] <vi__> A house>N950. a RAZR>a car ;-P http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/using-phone-while-driving-kill.php	23:17
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vi__	as a motorcyclist I can say, I do not agree with using telephones while driving.	23:24
vi__	DocScrutinizer06: have you tried mer yet?	23:25
vi__	or nemo	23:25
vi__	or whatever they are calling itthese days.	23:25
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joga	heh, one guy at work told he listened to irc as morse code while driving motorbike	23:31
joga	not sure if he had an input device on that, but I think he had some keyboard in the car wheel	23:31
joga	(or a slot for a communicator or so)	23:32
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kgu	What kind of thumb issue did the CSSU Testing 4.1 fix?	23:39
merlin1991	there were 2 packages that were wrongly compiled as thumb	23:39
merlin1991	and as we know, on stock maemo5 thumb binaries crash from time to time	23:40
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merlin1991	kgu: ^^	23:40
kgu	ahh, thanks for clarifying	23:42
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kgu	rtcom-messaging-ui is closed source, right? I wonder if the database mismatch issue for SMS could be fixed	23:45
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