IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-06-28

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Estel_jon-kha, unfortunately, I have no clue - I haven't touched this device yet00:00
Estel_BTw, farnell send it to me some times ago and turned out to be shit company, but today, I got info about element14 sending it to me via DHL00:01
jacekowskijon-kha: well, it looks like it's dead00:01
Estel_WTF? i'm going to get 2 at the end?00:01
jacekowskijon-kha: you should get at least somethig on the termianl00:01
jacekowskijon-kha: even without the sd card00:01
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freemangordonzeq: what?00:01
freemangordonI think there was showFulscreen()00:02
zeqwas there? I might have missed it... just tried putting it in where we set up the top level widget00:03
jon-khajacekowski it does not show anything, so i guess also that it's dead00:03
jacekowskiwell, it's not a software problem00:04
jacekowskidouble check if your supply is ok00:04
jacekowskiand if it is, well, it's proper fucked00:04
freemangordonzeq: И тхинк со, лемме греп00:04
jon-khaThere was 4,92v between tp1 and tp200:04
freemangordonI think so, lemme grep00:04
jon-khaso it should be ok00:04
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Estel_suuuuuure. Yesterday, i tried for hour all scenarios, and camera-ui2 hanged everytime I've finished recoridng video. Now, where I want to catch syslog output, it "just works"00:06
zeqit's just that it occurred to me that we should be available minus the title-bar when fullscreen00:07
freemangordonyou meen fennec title bar?00:07
zeqI mean HILDON title-bar00:07
Estel_freemangordon, I thing I've found why nicolaicam hangs and when00:07
freemangordonor hildon one00:07
freemangordonEstel_: why?00:07
Estel_it show this behavior only, when I've pasued recording at least once00:07
Estel_then, it hangs when i end recording00:08
Estel_yea, recording have option to pause, as per nicolai version00:08
Estel_great thing, cosnidering scarce of video editing tools for N900 itself00:08
freemangordonEstel_: you'd better file a bug00:09
SpeedEvilEstel_: mencoder, dd, what more could you want?00:09
Estel_freemangordon, the thing is that it hangs only when doing HD recording00:09
Estel_on "Stock" vidoe resolutions, it finish normally00:09
freemangordonso? what stops you from filing a bug?00:10
Estel_even when paused and resumed during recording00:10
Estel_erm, where?00:10
Estel_I though that Hd was Your addition, so it doesn't fill for CSSU. Or does?00:10
freemangordonit does00:10
Estel_ok, sure thing. I'll fill it00:11
Estel_thanks for investigating00:11
freemangordonif it is distributed with CSSU, then it is CSSU bug00:11
Estel_one last question, cause I'm lost00:11
Estel_ages ago, you've mentione,d in HD recording thread, that harm version of something - dsp driver or something like that - is worse than last one used00:11
freemangordonzeq: that is this HD_COMP_MGR_TOP_MARGIN I was talking for00:12
Estel_then, I lost orientation - are we using fixed version, or fixes is in cssu-thumb, or most recent one is first post of hd recording thread?00:12
freemangordonEstel_: sorry gtg00:12
zeqfreemangordon: isn't that the same thing?00:13
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GeneralAntillesI really hate iOS's new(ish) group chat shit00:59
GeneralAntillesThrough MMS.00:59
GeneralAntillesYou have to try to thread each message together manually.01:00
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RST38hMEANWHILE: Apparently, two thirds of Americans polled think that Barrack Obama is better suited to defend against an alien invasion than Mitt Romney, according to a survey from National Geographic Channel02:55
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merlin1991srly, maemo is full of trolls
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Estel_merlin1991, he is jsut noob, not troll. Haven't seen trolling from his side, although, his "advices" are irritating, I agree05:17
Estel_well, after all, he at least have good wishes :P05:18
Estel_if You ask me, i preffer him,with all the pain, voer some "old time" trolls, like we have seen in last 2 weeks05:18
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ChewtoyAnyone know where you can get a replacement for the n810 screen? Mine is loosing it's touch capabililty it seems. :/07:57
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vi____~Information is not Knowledge11:05
infobotvi____: okay11:05
vi____~Knowledge is not Wisdom11:05
infobot...but knowledge is already something else...11:05
vi____~Wisdom is not Truth11:05
infobot...but wisdom is already something else...11:05
vi____~Truth is not Beauty11:05
infobot...but truth is already something else...11:05
vi____~Beauty is not Love11:05
infobot...but beauty is already something else...11:05
vi____~Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence.11:06
infobot...but beauty is already something else...11:06
vi____~Love is not Music11:06
infobotIf you love is not Music so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)11:06
vi____~Music is THE BEST11:06
infobot...but music is already something else...11:06
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chem|st~forget Information11:32
infoboti forgot information, chem|st11:32
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DocScrutinizer51vi____: stop abusing infobot!11:41
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vi____DocScrutinizer51: I was just injecting a little culture into this heathen channel!12:24
vi____freemangordon: This is what I was talking about some weeks ago when you were discussing adblock.12:30
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teotwakiso, instead of having the browser do a tiny bit more work12:46
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teotwakiyou get the browser to still do all the requests12:46
teotwakiand instead, have another process, that does the matching12:46
teotwakiand if need be, send over a 1x1 gif image12:47
teotwakiThat's just fucking stupid.12:47
teotwakiThe same amount of CPU time is still being spent on the same stuff12:47
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teotwakiAnd here's a hint: blocking ads isn't about the CPU time being consumed, it's about the network exchanges -- so, if instead of the ad servers being slow, it's your fake-ad-hosting server that's slow, your browsing experience is still shit.12:48
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vi____I think a dedicated 1 pixel local server would be pretty fucking fast.12:53
DocScrutinizer05vi____: nothing wrong with culture :-) But please consider infobot factoid database like a wiki wikiwiki, you wouldn't insert a songtext to wikipedia by one line per page either, with first word of line as page topic12:55
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DocScrutinizer05~information is <reply> Information is not Knowledge \\ Knowledge is not Wisdom \\ Wisdom is not Truth \\ Truth is not Beauty \\ Beauty is not Love \\ Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. \\ Love is not Music \\ Music is THE BEST12:59
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay12:59
infobotInformation is not Knowledge \ Knowledge is not Wisdom \ Wisdom is not Truth \ Truth is not Beauty \ Beauty is not Love \ Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. \ Love is not Music \ Music is THE BEST12:59
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DocScrutinizer05and I always thought that's the definition of Aegis, not beauty13:02
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StyXmanvi____: nice page13:04
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zeqFennec is the first c++ project I've worked on, I'm not sure if I'm struggling to understand because I'm not yet fully up on the lanaguage or it's just complex as hell...13:10
freemangordonzeq: both :P13:11
zeqfreemangordon: yeah, probably :)13:11
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ZogG_lap1opzeq: is it newest fennec or you optimize the old one?13:12
zeqI've always seemed to gravitate towards lower level lanaguages.  I probably felt most comfortable coding in ARM assembler way back in the early '90's!13:13
zeqZogG_lap1op: It's the current version.  freemangordon and I are attempting to port the Qt/XUL version to Maemo5.13:14
freemangordonzeq: there were no good compilers back then, the only way to achieve performance was asm13:15
zeqZogG_lap1op: It's mostly going well, but the resizing of widgets on rotation is ... confusing13:15
ZogG_lap1opzeq: current is the new that hit android with nice tabs and all, just wwant to be sure13:15
freemangordonzeq: btw it seems we're not using GL acceleration13:15
zeqfreemangordon: still seems pretty quick though :)13:15
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: exactly the same, it is v16a113:16
ZogG_lap1opzeq: if you succeed than port it to n9 as well =P13:16
zeqZogG_lap1op: it should be available for the N9...?13:16
freemangordonzeq: I enabled QGLWidget, but unfortunately all I see is flicker13:16
ZogG_lap1opzeq: the last one is not13:17
zeqfreemangordon: I actually saw flicker on the, not sure why13:17
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ZogG_lap1opzeq: - that one13:18
zeqIs there not a current Fennec build for the N9?13:18
freemangordonzeq: by saying flicker, I mean a black screnn, which shows something only when scrolling, but unce you stop, it becomes black again :D13:19
ZogG_lap1opzeq: i think there is one before that, and last update fails to update for some reason(i think aegis related)13:19
zeqfreemangordon: no it wasn't that bad. just flickered while scrolling13:19
ZogG_lap1opit's 13 as if i remember right13:20
zeqZogG_lap1op: my flash is broken here on my laptop, not got around to fixing it yet13:20
ZogG_lap1opzeq: what distro?13:20
zeqGentoo :)13:20
ZogG_lap1opzeq: funtoo here, need help?13:20
zeqnah, I'm okay, my Gentoo-fu is strong :P13:21
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ZogG_lap1opgentoo is source based and the most logical and awesome distro by drobbins13:21
freemangordonvi____: seems infobot got tired :)13:22
ZogG_lap1opzeq: than move to funtoo13:22
zeqZogG_lap1op: I was the crazy person behind the idea of having automatic multilib support on Gentoo...13:22
ZogG_lap1opseems it deosn't know what is gentoo13:22
zeqI don't know if you heard about that...?13:22
ZogG_lap1opnot really13:22
ZogG_lap1opbut there are few people runing gentoo on n8x0 and on n90013:23
ZogG_lap1opi always got confused with their nicks.13:23
zeqOT here, but breifly: Gentoo uses binary version of libs for support of x86 on amd64, my solution was to build x86 versions of the libs (or any other ABI, say armhf support on armel ;) )13:24
ZogG_lap1opit's slonopotamus and i think luke-jr and maybe some other people13:24
zeqwith a special eclass, or built into portage13:24
zeqWe actually implemented both13:25
zeqlots of resistance from "those above"13:26
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zeqZogG_lap1op: those running Gentoo on the nxx0 use a chroot?13:28
ZogG_lap1opzeq: as i understand drobbins left because of politics and that they did't want him back, that's why funtoo is way more friendlyy13:28
zeqI actually ported Gentoo to the Sharp Zaurus ;)13:28
zeqI think I had the first full ARM EABI distro13:28
ZogG_lap1opzeq: i don't think so13:29
ZogG_lap1opzeq: when exactly u ported?13:29
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ZogG_lap1opas far as i know it was some russian guy running gentoo on ppc's from hp with win5 =)13:30
zeqI think I had the first full *ARM EABI* distro13:30
ZogG_lap1opmaybe, maybe not13:30
zeqanyway, this is pretty OT13:31
ZogG_lap1opyeah =)13:32
zeqfreemangordon: did you make any progress getting your head around screensize->QRect13:33
freemangordondamn it, no :(13:33
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zeqrealitygaps: I noticed something weird13:34
zeqsorry wrong completion! :S13:34
zeqfreemangordon: I noticed something weird13:34
zeqwhen using available* it actually resizes to to full screen initially13:34
freemangordonbut what buggers things is resize(screenGeometry.size());13:35
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zeqit then gets resized again13:35
freemangordonnot the other function13:35
zeqcould that be related to what I saw ^ ?13:35
zeqalso putting in a Fullscreen request on the top-level widget  as I mentioned last night gets it very confused about screen geometry and is "messed up" until rotation13:37
zeqwidgets all over the place13:37
freemangordonzeq: i suspect initially it is run in fullscreen13:37
zeqit was worth a try though :)13:37
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys gentoo13:38
infobotFactoid search of 'gentoo' by key (9): use gentoo ;; gentoo zelot ;; cmd: gentoosmite (.*?) ;; gentoo ( ;; cmd: gentoo (.*?) ;; gentoo-tc ;; start a gentoo war #DEL# ;; gentoo #DEL# ;; be gentoo barbie.13:38
zeqcould it be nsWindow::ConstrainPosition changing things after the initial resize?13:38
DocScrutinizer05~gentoo freemangordon13:38
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freemangordonzeq: see nsWindow::SetSizeMode(PRInt32 aMode)13:39
vi____~gentoosmite DocScrutinizer0513:39
* infobot spends 6 days recompiling DocScrutinizer05, and when it's all done, DocScrutinizer05 runs 2% slower than previously13:39
freemangordonit could be that we start in fullscreen, but because of the rotation either showMaximised or showNormal is called, screwing up the sizing13:40
freemangordonzeq: ^^^13:40
zeqdo we need to set nsSizeMode_Fullscreen?13:41
freemangordonzeq: where?13:41
freemangordon(most probably yes)13:41
zeqin SetSizeMode it's in aMode13:41
zeqneed to look at what's calling it13:42
DocScrutinizer05please don't implement a fake statusbar like e.g. in maps13:42
freemangordonyeah, but who calls it, that code is like spaghetti13:42
zeqDocScrutinizer05: do you mean title-bar?13:43
DocScrutinizer05maps (and canola) are basically fubar regarding this statusbar thing13:43
DocScrutinizer05zeq: invoke maps, you'll find the statusbar (with signal, battery, whatnot icon, some missing(!)) is complete fake13:44
zeqFennec already does this, the only way around it would be true native port rather than getting XUL port working13:44
DocScrutinizer05maps working in fullscreen and just emulates the statusbar13:44
freemangordonzeq: you mean to always set aMode to fullscreen?13:44
zeqDocScrutinizer05: yes, unfortunately this is the case13:44
zeqfreemangordon: yes13:44
zeqfreemangordon: we don't support anything else anyway13:45
freemangordonbut that should be the case for top-level widgets only, I have NFC for which widget setsizemode is called13:45
freemangordonif it is a child that will screw everything13:46
zeqthe only caller in nsWindow.cpp is nsWindow::Move13:46
zeqthere it sets Mode_Normal if mIsTopLevel13:46
freemangordonwhat? could be that :)13:46
zeqit seems a strange function to be called though13:46
zeqcould be13:46
DocScrutinizer05zeq: couldn't fennec just use (size_of_screen - statusbar_size) [the magic 58 pixel iirc] and let hildon care about statusbar?13:47
zeqhack it to use Fullscreen instead for MAEMO=513:47
DocScrutinizer05aiui H-D will care to composite in the statusbar13:48
DocScrutinizer05when the app isn't in fullscreen_mode13:48
DocScrutinizer05or 5613:48
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zeqDocScrutinizer05: unfortunately the XUL mobile app would look really weird like tha13:49
freemangordonzeq: done, compiling13:49
DocScrutinizer05zeq: why?13:49
zeqDocScrutinizer05: because it would have 2x close and 2x dashboard icons13:50
DocScrutinizer05well, maybe you could just #ifdef out those surplus things from fennec?13:50
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; had a note from mailman yesterday. Attempted deliver of registered letter failed, pick up from post office. haven't been able to do that yet though13:50
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DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: yeah, sorry for that13:51
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zeqDocScrutinizer05: *sigh* ... can we just get it working first? :P13:51
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: but your story about busdriver and gas staion lady scared me a bit ;-)13:51
DocScrutinizer05zeq: sure13:51
DocScrutinizer05zeq: just suggesting13:52
DocScrutinizer05zeq: you're the developer13:52
DocScrutinizer05zeq: just thought it's kinda on topic with what you just discussed13:52
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zeqThe right way to do what you're suggesting would be a native port, the same as is done for Android.  At that point you're pretty much re-implemeting microb...13:52
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DocScrutinizer05I don't think it's soooo much complication coming with just kicking out the fake statusbar and allowing fennec to run in non fulscreen-mode13:54
DocScrutinizer05but as mentioned above, you are the devel13:54
zeqDocScrutinizer05: we'd need to implement a new URL/tab system too13:55
zeqthe UI is tightly integrated13:55
DocScrutinizer05aah, it's on same line?13:55
Hurrianfreemangordon: ping13:55
DocScrutinizer05ok, I think I see your point13:56
freemangordonHurrian: pong13:56
zeqit's certainly doable; by not using XUL at all, and re-implenting the functionality H-D style (like MicroB), but that's a huge undertaking... would be pretty straightfoward though if we had access to the MicroB sources....13:57
Hurrianfreemangordon: is it alright to upgrade to cssu-thumb from cssu-testing?13:57
qwazixfennec on harmattan doesn't have either close nor dashboard, isn't on that your basing your work?13:57
Lava_CroftHurrian: no13:57
Lava_CroftHurrian: as always with CSSU, reflash is required13:57
freemangordonHurrian: it is OK13:57
freemangordonCSSU-thumb installs CSSU-T repo too13:58
zeqqwazix: not used fennec on harmattan, can you desribe it, bear in mind we're talking about 16a113:58
Lava_Croftoh lol13:58
zeqqwazix: interesting13:59
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zeqfreemangordon: have you seen ^14:00
freemangordonqwazix: the same, excuding branding14:00
Lava_Croftfennec on n9 is a bit weird with the Swipe ui14:00
qwazixAt first, there wasn't even a back button in the url screen see The back arrow on the right was missing14:00
zeqthat's an issue ;)14:00
freemangordonzeq: Harmattan swipe screws up swipe functionality :D14:00
Lava_Croftnot entirely14:00
Lava_Croftbut you have to keep more to the center to use fennec's swipe UI14:01
qwazixso a diff with harmattan fennec source could show how you can get rid of those controls14:01
Lava_Croftit takes a bit to get used to, its not exactly elegant14:01
zeqqwazix: it's the same source14:01
Lava_Croftbut it works14:01
zeqqwazix: the difference is Harm uses MEEGOTOUCH14:01
zeqthere are #ifdefs throughout the code14:02
qwazixthat means that there is a conditional somewhere who decides to show back and dashboard buttons14:02
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qwazixaccording to platform14:02
qwazixif you decide you want h-d top bar you could nullify those code blocks14:02
zeqyes, that does seem to be the case.14:02
zeqfreemangordon: what do you think?14:03
freemangordonqwazix: that wouldn't be so simplem because of the address bar14:03
qwazixfreemangordon: I'm not sure I understand14:03
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freemangordonhmm, it night work if we get rid of teskbar and close buttons only14:04
freemangordonleaving address field intact14:05
infobotfreemangordon meant: leaving url field intact14:05
zeqfreemangordon: would we then just need to start "minimized"14:05
freemangordonno, we have to start normal14:05
zeqthat should leave the H-D bar in place?14:06
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qwazixyes that's what I meant, and that's what the "default" behavior of fennec is (assuming android is 'default' fennec distro)14:07
zeqFennec seem to have different layouts for different modes14:07
zeqAndroid is a special case14:07
DocScrutinizer05qwazix: why would fremantle top/status-bar replace or substituate back and dashboard buttons?14:08
freemangordonzeq: i've changed it, now we will see if fullscreen theory is correct. if we go fullscreen on rotation, this is it.14:09
zeqbuild complete?14:10
freemangordonno, still running14:10
qwazixzeq: ok, maemo was the first one IIRC so that might be the 'default' behavior, DocScrutinizer05: we are talking about maemo dashboard, and close button, not navigation controls within the browser14:10
DocScrutinizer05the point about fake statusbar in maps is: it needs to implement stuff in maps that genuinely is done by H-D, like invoking dahsboard14:11
freemangordoni stopped it to change mGraphicsView->showFullScreen(); to mGraphicsView->showNormal(); in nsFastStartup.cpp14:11
DocScrutinizer05on HARM you got no such thing like a dashboard button14:11
zeqfreemangordon: ok good test :)14:12
qwazixDocScrutinizer05: yes, neither close button14:12
DocScrutinizer05on HARM you also usually don't have a close button upper right14:12
DocScrutinizer05on fremantle however both are kinda mandatory14:12
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qwazixyes and they'll be provided by hildon desktop14:12
DocScrutinizer05:nod: - but only if you don't run the app in fullscreen mode14:13
zeqwith a fullscreen exit button bottom righ14:13
freemangordonbut you anyway don;t need them when in fullscreen14:13
qwazixtrue, and this is more consistent with M5 gui guidelines14:14
DocScrutinizer05which is what maps does (and canola?) - and maps emulates the whole stus/menu-bar while canola you are kinda screwed14:14
freemangordonqwazix: :nod:. actually zeq wants that implemented, it was me to agrue :D14:15
freemangordonnot anymore14:16
DocScrutinizer05iirc you got exactly two options in canola: exit the app, or use hw-kbd ctrl-backspace14:16
vi____xbindkeys ctrl+space for fullscreen is on of the most usefull shortcuts.14:16
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DocScrutinizer05not quite in line with usual keybindings, which seem to be: ctrl-enter for toggling fullscreen mode14:17
qwazixvi____: english native speaker?14:17
ZogG_lap1opvi_: is not horny anymore? where are all the rest ___14:17
qwazixctrl+space switches languages on the N900 :D14:18
vi_How would I know what language I am on.14:18
qwazixtype something...14:18
vi_When you say language do you mean keymap?14:18
ZogG_lap1opvi_: there is applet for that, but you can't see it on fullscreen app i think14:18
DocScrutinizer05xchat toggles fs-mode by ctrl-enter14:18
vi_well Il be.14:19
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freemangordonzeq: linking libxul14:19
vi_That perhaps explains why SOMETIMES (like twice) my keyboard has gone batshit insane and none of my keys work as they should.14:19
vi_ZogG_lap1op: appletts are gay.14:19
ZogG_lap1opvi_: i got an email btw it's n950 =P14:19
vi_It is all about the xterm.14:20
ZogG_lap1opvi_: you say it like it's something bad =P14:20
vi_It is okay, I meant gay in the pejorative sense.14:20
ZogG_lap1opvi_: than use tmux and write script for indification of language. you can add it to your promt in bash i think too14:20
ZogG_lap1opvi_: there is russian joke to answer to negative things "you say it like it's bad"14:21
* zeq is going to grab some lunch14:22
Lava_Crofti think i didnt saw some hick talk about how things are 'gay'14:23
Lava_Croftnaw, i didnt14:23
ZogG_lap1opzeq: bon appetite14:23
zeqthen I really need to go buy some coffee... ran out yesterday!14:23
ZogG_lap1opzeq: i want to switch to tea only, the chinise tea and learn all the tradition they do it and serve it14:24
Lava_Crofttea is for the different occasion than coffee14:24
vi_ZogG_lap1op: that seems like a really motivation to become a tea drinker.14:24
Lava_Croftwaking up with tea makes you start the day all mellow14:24
leochenciphertry green tea first and never ever add sugar14:24
ZogG_lap1opanyway i need to go to make my volunteer hours in volunteer organization that helps people... so shower and bike ride =)14:24
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: on the side note: don't you think it is fair to post a link to the chat that happened on IRC, instead of interpreting it?14:25
freemangordonThat way everyine can draw his own conclusions, agree?14:25
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: you are free to do it. Estel_ said he would do it.14:25
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: i just don't feel posting the log everytime and i think i actually posted link to some chat already14:26
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: vi_ can confirm I am free to say/do whatever I want, but that is not the point.14:26
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: agreed, but after i saw the way he answers the Jaffa on maillist i don't agree it's a language problem =\14:26
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freemangordonmy point is still valid, I don't think it is fair to interpret a logged IRC chat14:27
freemangordonjust post the link to it14:27
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ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: i posted the link earlier actually14:28
vi_Everyone is free to say/do whatever they want.  It is the consequances that are the problem.14:28
ZogG_lap1opvi_: that's exactly the point14:28
ZogG_lap1opif you actually maybe said reasoable thing, i think he took it as exuse other wise jokes like "how do i say it now" or "slav mod" wouldn't be there14:29
ZogG_lap1opbut i'll add the link14:29
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vi_what the f'ing f.14:30
vi_Nokia developer does not accept my user name and password.14:30
vi_It will not even send me the 'forgot password' email.14:31
ZogG_lap1opvi_: go to ovi and log in they have now the single account thing AFAIK14:31
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vi_none fo this horseshit works.14:32
vi_Ok.  This fubar.14:34
vi_I have got it to recognise my username but it is filled out with someone elses details.14:34
freemangordonvi_: they are migrating DB it seems14:36
zeqfreemangordon: maybe I shouldn't have tried turning on OGL widgets at the same time ;)14:36
zeqvblank issue?14:36
vi_Then how come my account is now populated with someones else address? and telphone number.14:37
ZogG_lap1opvi_: did you get mail?14:37
DocScrutinizer05vi_: contact nokia care *immediately*14:38
DocScrutinizer05provide screenshots14:38
Lava_Croftoh my vi_14:38
Lava_Croftlisten to DocScrutinizer0514:38
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zeqSomeone hacked the account???14:38
vi_papa new guinea??14:39
zeqpeople really want N950s!14:39
ZogG_lap1opvi_: not all people got mails yet14:39
zeqvi_: get on the phone to them14:40
chem|stvi_: I'm checking my account just now...14:40
freemangordonI still don't have mail14:40
ZogG_lap1opvi_: oh you have wrong address, you should check before14:41
ZogG_lap1opvi_: i can give the mail of person who send me the mail from nokia to ask him14:41
freemangordonbut just been able to connect my nokia account with my developer one14:41
ZogG_lap1opvi_: do you want?14:41
* vi_ phoneing now14:41
chem|sthehe, successfully linked accounts and my details seem to be the same14:43
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freemangordonmy city was missing :(14:43
freemangordonnearest city. WTF?14:44
chem|stfreemangordon: as you speak yes city is missing14:44
freemangordonchem|st: do you have a mailf from nokia?14:44
vi_ZogG_lap1op: what did the mail say?14:44
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vi_did it say the device had been shipped?14:45
ZogG_lap1opvi_: it was forward from DHL, and than i mailed him to ask if it's n9 or n950 and he answered it's n950 than it's person and not a bot14:46
chem|stabout the merge yes about my device no14:46
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: use the address line to write your city14:47
Hurrianhmm, haven't got my DHL mail yet14:47
Hurrianshould I be linking the nokia accounts?14:47
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: by what logic when there is a field for a city?14:48
chem|stHurrian: yes, and look if your details are right in there14:48
chem|stfreemangordon: I added it up in nearest city AND addline214:48
* vi_ approaches problem like a boss.14:48
ZogG_lap1opHurrian: just check the developer account and if you have address and data there, as well if in setting you don't have developer account thing, you may tell it to qguil14:48
vi_called customer support, got through to some backwater shit hole call centre.  This is pointless.14:49
freemangordonchem|st: hmm, okm but what about country then14:49
vi_Remembered I have a dirrect number for UK escalations.14:49
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: the logic is you want to get device or not =)14:49
chem|stfreemangordon: location?14:49
HurrianI just noticed that Nokia says "" when you're supposed to use your old developer name.14:49
ZogG_lap1opvi_: use the mail i gave you or qguil mail14:49
ZogG_lap1opHurrian: maybe it's single account migration thing14:50
ZogG_lap1opok i'm late14:50
chem|stHurrian: lol I just used the username and password from before14:50
ZogG_lap1opgonna go14:50
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ZogG_lap1opchem|st: i think both work14:50
freemangordonchem|st: yes, there is location and city. if I add city to address, then I should add country too.14:50
ZogG_lap1opvi_: use the mail i gave you14:50
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chem|stfreemangordon: ah that you mean, no that is by location but nearest city is something I do not call an address field... postal code may include countrycode but that is obsolete iirc14:51
freemangordonwell, I added it to address line 114:52
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chem|stEstel_: Woody14619 ping14:52
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: btw check hte city with first letters, as mine had "'" in the name =)14:52
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: so i thought it's not there at first14:52
chem|stwould you guys mind to get in touch with quim about this account merging disaster?!14:52
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ZogG_lap1opchem|st: the fastest thing to post on TMO i think or send him mail directly14:53
zeqfreemangordon: could it be trying to use gles1?
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: I didn't understand what you mean14:54
freemangordonzeq: it draws, but is overwritten with black14:55
vi_Does anyone have an email address for qgil?14:55
freemangordondon;t think it is the same14:55
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ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: in nearest city thing i looked for my city as Givataim and didn;t find it there, after i typed giv only and found it was giv'ataim or something like that. it might be speelled wrong there14:55
vi_~seen qgil14:56
freemangordonZogG_lap1op: I don't have a list here, have to type it by hand14:56
infobotqgil <c0646a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 274d 13h 9m 53s ago, saying: 'ok, time to leave and join the Qt chapter - Siicon Valley. See you around!'.14:56
ZogG_lap1opvi_:  quim.gil (at) the company he works (dot) com AFAIK14:56
ZogG_lap1opfreemangordon: it autocompete14:56
ZogG_lap1opok i need to go14:57
iDontJust read the chanlog, I haven't got an email from DHL either, though my address details are correct14:58
freemangordonanyone got email?14:58
iDont"Nearest City" was empty though, after linking accounts14:58
freemangordonyeah, same here14:59
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iDontwell, qgil has stated that the devices will be shipped by the end of this week15:01
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zeqfreemangordon: how did the build go?15:02
iDontso I suppose I'll be waiting a few more days for the e-mail from DHL to arrive :)15:02
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zeqfreemangordon: I tried something similar.  It almost works with screenGeometry now.  Although, maybe we just didn't notice this before, but the side widgets are resized correctly to the screen, it's just the page view that isn't getting resized.15:06
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Hurrianwhelp, it seems like the SSO tried my old account before the new one, even if I did type it in lowercase.15:06
zeq(I changed showFullScreen() to showNormal() in nsFastStartupQt.cpp15:07
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Hurrianboth accounts point to the same email, so it shouldn't be a problem, but ugh.15:07
vi_I do not mind waiting, I just don't want it to go to some SHIT EATING SCAMMER in papa new guinea.15:07
zeqfreemangordon: I'm off out now, I'll be back later.15:07
JaffaZogG_lap1op: Did you mean andre rather than Jaffa? Not sure I've posted to the ML recently15:08
iDontvi_, maybe your account got linked to someone else's as well, like Hurrian's account?15:08
vi_iDont: that sounds likely15:09
vi_but who would blindly merge two databases?15:09
vi_what if two users have the same user name?15:09
Hurrianvi_, Nokia.15:09
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iDontindeed, this shouldn't happen15:10
ZogG_lap1opJaffa: true, second time i got you mixed =\15:10
Hurrianwell, uhh, since qgil said they wont be leaving before the end of the week, shouldn't someone ask qgil to double-check before any real fubar happens?15:10
vi_Hurrian: Something fubar HAS happened.15:11
Hurrianwell, before the postage stamps get put on and it heads out of dhl.15:12
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ZogG_lap1opHurrian: add to your post about other cases and people like vi_ so he would look globally15:12
ZogG_lap1opand that everyone would check their addresses15:12
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Hurrian...and added.15:13
Hurrianside note, anybody got their DHL mails for CA devices yet?15:17
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freemangordon_seems noone :-)15:18
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Hurrianthat's good. i'll be out in a few, but someone needs to get qgil to see the thread/get an email about it.15:19
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iDontI've added my city to the first address line as well, "Nearest City" doesn't sound quite right15:27
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iDontfreemangordon, Estel suggested me to approach you about inclusion of bb-power's thumb build in the thumb repo15:31
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iDonthowever, AFAICS there is only community-thumb, which is used for CSSU-thumb and not regular packages15:31
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vi_qgil now knows.15:33
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vi_iDont: you are using thumb?15:39
iDontvi_, yes15:39
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iDontit shrinks the binary size quite a bit :)15:40
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vi_are you seeing a reduction in memory footprint on a freshly booted system?15:42
vi_If so could you hazard a guess as to how much?15:42
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iDontI haven't really checked, but I assume there is15:43
iDontI took freemangordon's word on it in the thumb thread ;)15:44
iDontanyway, it's saving some rootfs space, that's for sure15:46
freemangordoniDont: there should be no problem to put BB in the same repo15:48
freemangordonit will just sit there, no mp-thingie will depend on it15:48
iDontfreemangordon, that is great :). Are there any objections to inclusion?15:49
vi_I object...15:50 did not do it sooner.15:50
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iDontvi_, I'll try harder next time ;)15:52
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freemangordoniDont: you'd better post the question in thumb thread on TMO. BTW ist it me who is supposed to build it and upload it in the repo?15:53
iDontfreemangordon, I'm not sure how the repository is currently managed, I was only pointed to you. If I can manage the package myself, then you don't have to do anything ofc15:55
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freemangordoniDont: it is managed with dput and ssh. you may asm merlin1991 for access. And you should use gcc >= 4.6.2 for compilation15:57
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infobotfreemangordon meant: iDont: it is managed with dput and ssh. you may ask merlin1991 for access. And you should use gcc >= 4.6.2 for compilation15:57
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iDontfreemangordon, thanks, will do. The current thumb package is already build with GCC 4.6.215:58
freemangordoncurrent package? which one15:58
iDontyes, I've got a thumb deb hosted on busybox-power's garage page15:59
freemangordonaah, ok15:59
iDontsorry if I wasn't clear15:59
freemangordonmerlin1991: ping15:59
iDontmerlin1991, I've just talked with freemangordon about inclusion of busybox-power in community-thumb16:00
iDontis it possible for me to get upload rights for the package?16:00
freemangordonmerlin1991: what is your policy re adding developers which are not a part of CSSU to your -devel and -thumb ACL16:00
freemangordonactually we've never discuss that16:01
freemangordoniDont: yeah :)16:01
merlin1991freemangordon: thumb is you baby, thus your policy (if you have one) applies, but I'd feel from comfortable if you *safeguard* the access in a sense that you upload the stuff16:01
freemangordoniDont: but I was tallking to merlin199116:01
merlin1991also I never took the time to properly set access rights for stuff on the server, thus I don't feel so good about giving a big amount of people access to it :D16:02
freemangordonmerlin1991: :nod:16:02
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freemangordonok, agreed16:03
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freemangordoniDont: so, I need the package built with -sa -us -uc -I.git16:04
freemangordonalso you have to add the correct dependencies in the control file, look at some of the thumb packages for an example16:05
freemangordonI mean the dependency to kernel-errata-workaround16:05
freemangordonalso you should add -thumbN (where N is the thumb version) in debian/changelog16:05
iDontfreemangordon, thanks, I'll do that. I'll also have to change the debian version so thumb if preffered over the reglar package16:06
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freemangordoniDont: if you have c++ code, thean a dependency to libstdc++ thumb version is olso needed16:06
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iDontthere is no c++ code. I will do everything you said re dependencies and version string16:07
freemangordoniDont: you may alwasy use thumb-testing branch in CSSU repo on gitorious for a reference16:08
freemangordonfor packaging stuff, compiler switches, etc16:09
iDontwill do, thanks for all the pointers, much appreciated16:09
freemangordonnp :)16:09
freemangordonI am still wating you to join me and Pali :P16:10
iDonthehe :P. Well, at this moment it's more of a time issue, but I'm open for discussion.16:11
iDontare there any specific areas you guys are lacking a pair of hands?16:11
freemangordonwell, kernel and CSSU, nothing more16:12
merlin1991but CSSU is a pretty big one ;)16:12
iDontyeah, I can imagine that :)16:13
freemangordonyeah, kernel is a little boy. but hey, we're feeding him dayly, so some day he will grow up.16:14
freemangordonmerlin1991: luf still mia?16:14
merlin1991freemangordon:  :D16:14
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merlin1991I have no email, and tmo pm is disabled for him :D16:15
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freemangordonmerlin1991: isn't there e-mail connected with his TMO account?16:16
merlin1991I think not visible, but I can check again16:16
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freemangordonmerlin1991, there is16:17
merlin1991okay will send an email then16:18
freemangordon"    * Send a message via email to luf"16:18
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zeqfreemangordon: while I was out buying coffee, I was having a think about the widget layout.  The total height is determined by the sum of height of location widget and length of side widgets.  The total width is dertermined by the width of the side panel (if open) plus the page view width.  When rotating to portait the height of the widgets excluding page area is correctly calculated, page area doesn't change, so width is off16:21
* freemangordon runs for coffee16:22
freemangordonzeq: I still didn't do the experiment correctly, hopefully this time I will have the result16:24
freemangordon(ance the compilation completes)16:24
zeqok. keep an eye on the side panel widgets16:25
freemangordonyeah, they are always correct16:25
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zeqI'll do some more thinking ;)16:27
zeqI'm sure if we can get our head around it, the solution will be simple.16:28
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zeqfreemangordon: I think we've been going about this the wrong way.  I removed the orientationChanged notifier and it does exactly the same thing. (sometimes it works perfectly; usually the view area doesn't get resized)  What we need to do on orientationChanged is get just force the page view to resize, maybe we need to calculate it, but given it occasionally works anyway, the code must be in there somewhere anyway.  Back to mo17:01
freemangordonzeq: agree on that17:01
zeqfreemangordon: I think it's more likely to work when a page is loading...17:03
zeq(just tried it)17:04
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zeqview area tends to get resized during page load17:04
freemangordonzeq: it could be a problem of graphicswidget/view itself, in one of my projects where i use qgraphicsview there is such code:17:05
freemangordonsetSizePolicy(QSizePolicy::Expanding, QSizePolicy::Expanding);17:06
zeqcan you try that?17:06
freemangordonon which widget?17:06
zeqwhich widget is the main content?17:06
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zeqfreemangordon: I'm learning this as I go along ;)17:07
trxset that on QGraphicsWidget that's displaying the content17:08
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freemangordonthe problem is how to identify it :D17:08
trxit will improve performance greatly17:08
trxalso scrolling will be faster17:08
zeqtrx: do you want to look at the code?17:08
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freemangordontrx: this is from the code i wrote, unfortunately almost 2 years ago17:09
trxi use setViewportUpdateMode(QGraphicsView::BoundingRectViewportUpdate); i believe in my code editor to gain speed17:09
trxand resolve drawing issues17:10
luke-jrzeq: Gentoo is bootable on both N8x0 and N90017:10
freemangordonand widget/qt/mozqwidget.cpp17:10
freemangordontrx: ^^^17:10
trxfreemangordon will check, ty17:10
* zeq will be back later17:10
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vi_~gentoosmite luke-jr17:13
* infobot spends 6 weeks recompiling luke-jr, and when it's all done, luke-jr runs 3% slower than previously17:13
trxfreemangordon, i had another look at my code, setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache) is the flag that greatly improved scrolling and fixed some drawing issues where chunks of text was invisible in my code editor17:18
trxnow, to look at you code17:18
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trxfreemangordon i would try and set on both of them17:24
trxnsWindow first17:24
trxalso try to add setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache)17:25
trxand see how it behaves with that cache flag17:25
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trxfreemangordon oh, and let me know what happens please :)17:28
freemangordontrx: there is no problem with rendering, but with resizig17:30
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freemangordonQGraphicsScene/Widget or View have incorrect size screwing all of the layout17:31
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trxproblems occured when resizing, thats why i suggested it17:32
freemangordonwhen rotated, yes17:33
freemangordonyou mean setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache)17:33
trxyes, that helped17:33
trxhere it produces screwing of the layout?17:34
freemangordonok. but it seems to me that view is never resized17:34
freemangordonI don;t know if it follows scene view17:34
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freemangordons/scene view/scene size/17:36
infobotfreemangordon meant: I don;t know if it follows scene size17:36
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zeqfreemangordon: we know view is resized when resize() is set to availableSize, or is it settSceneRect()?  Anyhow, there is some logic that triggers resize somewhere...17:38
trxonResizeEvent gets the resize properly?17:39
trx(nsWindow - onResizeEvent)17:39
zeqthere is the code I corrected to match the comment:17:40
freemangordonzeq: it is widget and scene to be resized, view is not resised in orientationChanged17:40
zeqsynthesize a resize event if this isn't a toplevel17:40
zeqbut it does get changed when I changed it to availableSize, but why?17:40
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freemangordonzeq: nsIntRect rect(mBounds.x, mBounds.y, aWidth, aHeight); ???17:41
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zeqthat's what I was thinking17:43
zeqthis gives us the view widget, right? QWidget *widget = GetViewWidget();17:44
freemangordonbut it should not be QWidget17:44
freemangordonbut QGraphicsView17:45
zeqI grabbed that straight from nsWindow.cpp17:45
zeqI need to go again I'm afraid17:46
zeqbusy today :(17:46
freemangordonok, np17:46
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trxfreemangordon what is the actual problem, resize on orientation change?17:50
trxorientation changes but the size remains?17:50
freemangordonbut only for the view. though sometimes it works17:51
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trxdamn, i cant open widget/qt/mozqwidget.cpp "blob taking too long to generate"17:57
trxcan you pastebin it or something?17:57
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freemangordonhave in mind this is a working copy18:01
trxfreemangordon can you access, the QGraphicsView->size() from orientationChanged and use that instead of QApplication::desktop()->screenGeometry()18:04
freemangordoni think18:04
trxtry that, QGraphicsView's values should be used i think when its used18:05
trx(as a view :) )18:05
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zeqI'm trying using width and height from QGraphicsView->size() in NativeResize()18:19
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trxany results yet?18:27
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freemangordontrx: it takes 20 minutes for linker to complete18:29
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trxoh right18:30
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freemangordonanyway, i ran out of time, will have to take some sleep as I will have to work tonight18:32
freemangordonbb guys, wish you luck18:33
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zeqfreemangordon: sleep well18:33
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zeqtrx: if you want to clone the repo and join the effort, you're more than welcome :)18:36
zeqI'm trying to get up to speed on C++ and Qt as I go, so someone with more experience would be useful :)18:37
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Vib3trying to write img to memory card with n900, but now cant see mem card18:41
Vib3is /dev/mmcblk1 mem card?18:42
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zeqVib3: yes18:46
zeqVib3: assuming you mean microSD18:46
Vib3mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1 on /media/mmc1/ failed: Invalid argument18:48
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trxzeq i know Qt but not C++, i use Qt with pascal, thats why i can suggest things to you18:48
trxi do know C++ too, but i am not an advanced user18:48
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trxanyway, let me know the results18:51
trxi must go now for a half hours18:52
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zeqtrx: I'm asking romaxa for some more help...18:55
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vi_Vib3: what are you trying to acheive?18:57
Vib3to see whats on that mmc18:58
vi_Vib3: so when you put sd card in it does not auto mount?18:58
Vib3nope cos I tried to put img there, but it was corrupted18:59
Vib3no trying again18:59
vi_Vib3: you are trying to install nitroid?18:59
Vib3just trying to put other img to mmc19:00
Vib3for my raspberry pi19:00
vi_So you are using your n900 to dd a disk image to your memory card?19:00
Vib3now trying again19:01
vi_why did you not open your question with that tiny nugget of info?19:01
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vi_vibe what FS does the image use?19:02
vi_What kernel are you running?19:02
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Woody14619chem|st: delayed pong19:16
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chem|stWoody14619: was about nokia merging accounts and destroying their addressDB by that19:54
chem|sts/o emailed quim I think19:54
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zeqtrx, freemangordon: Talked to romaxa.  He had a look and now confirms the code should be in place to work, obviously something isn't getting triggered properly and suggested putting debugging printf's into the resize functions.19:58
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zeqtrx, freemangordon: I hate it when this happens... debugging "fixed" it :/20:37
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DocScrutinizer51zeq: hehe20:46
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jean_brathi Guys. i assume many people might have experienced the charging issue with N900.. i have to keep the micro USB port of my charger at an angle and push it inside the N900 port to initiate charging.. and also many charger will not work.. i have 2 chargers N97 and n900.. both of em dont charge my phone.. a chinese charger can with this method..20:48
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jean_brathave seen lot of blogs about this issue.. is there any one found an ideal solution for this issue?20:48
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jean_bratHi DocScrutinizer20:49
jean_bratremember me .. had the booting issue after flashing N900.?20:49
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jean_bratnokia service centre guys fixed it.. some problem with the board they said20:50
DocScrutinizer51takes some more hints20:50
jean_brati was here 2 days continues .. and you helped me to flash20:51
DocScrutinizer51mech force on USB for charging clearly indicates an almost brolen USB receptacle20:51
jean_bratcan it be replaced?20:51
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DocScrutinizer51well, sorry. That's what I do usually ;-D20:51
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DocScrutinizer51you should try to find some good electronics engineer to get it fixed before it brweaks completely20:52
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jean_bratare these micro usb is poorly designed?20:52
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Woody14619chem|st: really?  Hmm... Is that something that happened because of OBS (for LDAP) or just trying to consolidate down?20:53
jean_brathow..? do you get microusb ports which can be soldered in to the same board?20:53
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DocScrutinizer51you should solder the esisting one20:55
DocScrutinizer51uless you find a good new part20:57
DocScrutinizer51povbot_: fhgdfhrjyugh20:57
povbot_DocScrutinizer51: Error: "fhgdfhrjyugh" is not a valid command.20:57
infobotsomebody said usbfix was - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)20:57
infobotusbfix is, like, - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)20:57
luke-jrI bought a backup N90020:57
luke-jrusbfix didn't turn out so nice :/20:57
luke-jrit doesn't fit right in the case now20:57
zeqDocScrutinizer51: I'm not that suprised debugging made it work, since it worked intermittently, that pointed to some kind of timing, racy type problem.20:59
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DocScrutinizer51the beloved race conditions21:01
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DocScrutinizer05usually never get fixed for goos, as it's too easy to make then vanish 'usually'21:02
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: usually never get fixed for good, as it's too easy to make then vanish 'usually'21:02
DocScrutinizer05so if you can actually trace down one, you should appreciate the opportunity21:03
DocScrutinizer05exploiting ETM might help21:03
DocScrutinizer05though that's still a *very* immature project of mine, for N90021:04
zeqit seems an event is being triggered multiple times, and the code checks for a difference between current and last to determine whether it needs to resize the widget21:04
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zeqso if it depends whether it checks between to identical repeats of the event or the before and after the actual change21:05
DocScrutinizer05always nice for not-reentrant code pitfalls21:05
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infobotzeq meant: so if it depends whether it checks between two identical repeats of the event or the before and after the actual change21:05
DocScrutinizer05even seen an irq speeding over his elder brother? ;-P21:06
zeqit's just like that21:06
zeqI think it gets called for every widget21:06
zeq(my suspicion)21:06
DocScrutinizer05yeah, not consider multithreading21:07
zeqhow to fix?21:07
DocScrutinizer05is that friggin code reentrant?21:07
zeqI don't think so21:07
DocScrutinizer05usually you fix this particular kind of race with a mutex21:07
DocScrutinizer05or semaphore21:07
zeqI think it explains the weird behaviour on Harmattan too21:08
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zeqreportedly on rotation it jumps about at various angles21:09
zeqanyway, I need to go to the pub now ;)21:09
zeqI'm glad I've made some progress...21:09
jean_bratthanks DocScrutinizer .. let me crank open the case this weekend to have a better look inside21:10
zeqsee ya doc21:10
jean_bratluke-jr, can it be un done? or remove the solder and install a better usb female connecter?21:11
DocScrutinizer05jean_brat: opening (and esp reassembling) N900 is not like changing a tire on your car. Be *damn* careful with this flat ribbon connector between lower & upper half!21:11
luke-jrmore like cut away from the plastic the solder is having trouble with21:11
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DocScrutinizer05zeq: o/21:11
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DocScrutinizer05luke-jr: exactly21:12
jean_bratthere are youtube videos which will give you a decent idea of what you will be doing21:12
DocScrutinizer05the easiest and suggested method21:12
DocScrutinizer05jean_brat: haven't seen any really decent video yet21:13
luke-jrDocScrutinizer05: I did try, but couldn't make it fit somehow21:13
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DocScrutinizer05they all skip the nasty part of flap ribbon connector plug removal and esp re-insertion21:13
jean_bratdoes your phone charge now? luke-jr ?21:13
DocScrutinizer05luke-jr: use chewinf gum, no kidding. Shows you where are the contact pints21:14
jean_bratohh din know that DocScrutinizer21:14
luke-jrDocScrutinizer05: huh? how woudl that work?21:14
DocScrutinizer05jean_brat: yeah, and when you don't know, you lift the LCD half like "NOW!!! I did it!" and RIP FPC21:15
DocScrutinizer05jean_brat: NEVER pull or bend the flat plastic cable, NEVER apply punctual force to the B2B connector at end of FPC21:16
DocScrutinizer05and prepare for 15min of shouting swearwords when trying to re-insert that friggin B2B connector21:17
DocScrutinizer05it's not like it will fit like the egg into the cup21:18
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DocScrutinizer05more like your door key into the keyhole, when you're drunk and it's dark21:19
DocScrutinizer05if it doesn't fit, start all over again. applying force will break the shite for sure21:20
DocScrutinizer05sliding around with the plug basically doesn't help21:20
DocScrutinizer05it's one of the nastiest B2B connector designs I've ever seen - in any imaginable regard21:21
jean_bratthis looks promissing21:21
jean_bratbut don know if the case will fit inside after that21:21
jean_bratthink its better done from the professionals21:21
luke-jrDocScrutinizer05: I never had any trouble with it…21:22
DocScrutinizer05this is ok, minus the erroneous connection of ID to GND21:22
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luke-jrand I wasn't especially careful21:22
jean_brathow did you manage to put the case back again luke-jr ?21:22
luke-jrjean_brat: I just ignored the fact that it didn't fit <.<21:22
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luke-jrso the left side is slightly sticking out21:23
jean_bratohh ok21:23
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jean_bratstrange .. how they missed this part.. in such a great design of its time21:25
jean_bratin N90021:25
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chem|stWoody14619: OBS? LDAP? nokia messed up their websites, they merged accounts and with that deleted the "city:" field from accountdetails21:28
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jean_bratohh ok21:29
DocScrutinizer05hi chem|st21:30
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: can you update user posts on tmo?21:31
freemangordonzeq: congrats man, now we know is is not our fault, it should be easy to be fixed21:31
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: chem|st: can you edit user posts on tmo?21:31
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: if so, could you add a link to into please ?21:32
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DocScrutinizer05or quote my whole comment in the original post even21:34
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freemangordonPali: great job (apt-mirror I mean)21:48
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Palifreemangordon, ok :-)21:48
freemangordoncould you mail me some list?21:48
freemangordonor it is too much o an effort21:49
Palifreemangordon, do you mean mirror.list of that backup?21:49
freemangordonI mean packages.tar.gz, but suspect I can access them21:50
Paliall is on merlin server in my home folder21:50
freemangordonPali: nevermind21:50
PaliI updated public repositories in mirror.list on wiki:
Palithere is some incomplete harmattan list21:51
freemangordonyou add those there?21:52
PaliI added official harmattan21:52
Palisdk & device21:52
freemangordonok, ok21:54
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DocScrutinizer05ooh, a /mode #maemo +q *!*@*.de21:59
DocScrutinizer05and  /mode #maemo +q *!*@*.it21:59
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infobotDocScrutinizer05: aw, gee22:00
infobot[football] played with a ball shaped like an ellipsoid, or rarely touched by the foot which makes the name confusing22:00
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, soccer is - see football. short for Association Football (assoc -> soccer), or the Greatest Game in the World!22:01
DocScrutinizer05plain BS22:01
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DocScrutinizer05/join #anti-soccer22:12
trxfreemangordon did you test it with changes i suggested?22:14
trxalso, when the orientation changes, nsWindow::OnResizeEvent(QGraphicsSceneResizeEvent *aEvent) gets called22:16
trxyou can resize there as well22:16
trxbut that is on window level so you would have to resize children22:16
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zeq1freemangordon: Did you see my analysis above?22:26
freemangordonyep, and also answered22:27
freemangordon[21:30] <freemangordon> zeq: congrats man, now we know is is not our fault, it should be easy to be fixed22:27
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zeq1:) it wasn't in the scrollback here on xchat22:28
freemangordonunfortunately I won't have time to look at the issue today (job)22:28
freemangordonbut will do it tomorrow. mind to share your logs?22:28
freemangordonI mean those from printfs22:29
zeq1sure, when I get home22:29
freemangordonwehn you have access to them of course22:29
freemangordonyeah :)22:29
zeq1getting complaints from gf ;)22:29
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zeq1pub! :)22:32
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: done22:44
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: thanks22:45
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GeneralAntillesIs the duplicate text issue usually on the receiving end or the sending end?23:03
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* RST38h suggests GLSurfaceView authors die of bloody diarrhea23:03
RST38hSame as their GLThread, every time the device is rotated23:08
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TofeI'm trying to insert simple debug traces (with g_message) in my hildon status bar plugin, but the traces don't show up when I start Did I miss something stupid ? NB:I'm sure my code is the one that gets loaded.23:15
TofeI see plenty of glib messages from trackerd, hildon-home, etc, so it must be me...23:15
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Estel_Well, i haven't got my mail too23:34
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Estel_at least, I got username that no one else would take, as Estel was occupied already... :P23:35
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