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| DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: nice! :-D | 01:29 |
| darkschneider | :) yep i'm happy, it basically works now :) i just have to convince syncevolution guy to add a template for horde, so users can just select it from the list and they do not have to do something "special" anymore | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: who's the syncevo guy? | 01:31 |
| darkschneider | also overcoming syncevolution "only one sync a day" is something i will add a note of. Tomorrow i test with allarmd, but the fact that it's only in -devel is bad. he is named Patrick Ohly | 01:32 |
| darkschneider | i think he is the main developer (maybe from intel? given that syncevo was moblin, if i understood right) | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | darkschneider: what is only in -devel? alarmed? | 01:34 |
| darkschneider | yes, that what i read around | 01:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | alarmed is working nicely, thanks to shapeshifter for the great app | 01:35 |
| darkschneider | i see it is, many cite it with pleasure, it's needed for sync, you can't live by sync just once a day, that why i want to add a note about it | 01:36 |
| darkschneider | it's something most of users will want | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 01:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | iirc shapeshifter actually implemented my suggestion to do custom actions in alarmd via scripts you can select | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | so you could ship the matching alarmed script to control syncevo | 01:39 |
| darkschneider | interesting | 01:39 |
| darkschneider | that is something i like | 01:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | of course you also could implement the UI into syncevo and it controls alarmed via cmdline parameters | 01:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the CLI should be comprehensive | 01:41 |
| darkschneider | nut the command line to execute will need a parameter so mmm i have to see if there is away to guess it. mm I can, but i perceive syncevo as an unfriendly opensource project | 01:41 |
| darkschneider | s/not/but | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | cmdline interface has proper help | 01:42 |
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| darkschneider | like you know.. one of those project that is opensource, but it's not really open... same feeling you get when you talk to amd official open driver developer... it's "open" like a jail.. air will pass, people not | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | but you can as well resort to alarmed GUI to select syncevo as action for arbitrary alarm event | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm | 01:43 |
| darkschneider | i'll have a look tomorrow and see what is best... maybe i should write syncevo guy and see the reply before thinking he is not open.. but i really fear he will reply badly.. and then my mood of putting time in this instead of good ol' payed work would decline by far... you know i coded enough years for free open source project.... | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, if you find anything odd in alarmed, please ping shapeshifter and/or me. I helped a bit with the app and I'm very interested in it working correctly and being convenient to use | 01:44 |
| darkschneider | sure! that is a nice offer :) | 01:45 |
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| * DocScrutinizer would also like to know how to run backup app unattended, but hasn't found anything yet | 01:47 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | for the obvious purpose of doing backups on a rgular schedule | 01:47 |
| darkschneider | yep... losing phone pics and such is very bad... | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I shipped around that by doing backups to my PC via cronjob and rsync via ssh | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | and, of course, with backupmenu. THE app for N900 | 01:49 |
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| darkschneider | i just dump the thing via rsync and ssh to my server.. but it's a crappy approach | 01:51 |
| darkschneider | i think i'll investigate yours | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools | 02:00 |
| infobot | from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | my approach is not any different ;-) | 02:00 |
| darkschneider | will see :) | 02:00 |
| darkschneider | btw going sleep, i just figured it's 1.00 here.. need sleeeep | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | but get backupmenu, it's indispensible | 02:01 |
| darkschneider | :) thansk for all the help and support today :) | 02:01 |
| darkschneider | i will :) | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, same for me, but I'm hurt by the summertime | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw, thanks for doing a much needed update to wiki | 02:02 |
| darkschneider | :) | 02:02 |
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| loz` | can't install backupmenu, on there is "NONE/400 3601 NONE error:invalid-request - NONE/- text/html" request on my proxy =\ | 06:41 |
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| robbiethe1st | Ignore it, it's installed | 06:48 |
| robbiethe1st | You just don't get a readme | 06:48 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hi, where can I find nokia pc suite that supports n900 and could run on windows 2000? | 11:44 |
| merlin1991 | why do you need it in the first place? | 11:44 |
| LaoLang_cool | merlin1991: I need to sync contacts with outlook | 11:45 |
| LaoLang_cool | I couldn't find an easy way to do it | 11:45 |
| LaoLang_cool | And my os is windows 2000... | 11:45 |
| merlin1991 | hm, yea that is a pc-suite job, though no idea about a win200 version | 11:45 |
| merlin1991 | LaoLang_cool: maybe you can use something from here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync#Syncing_with_a_Windows_Desktop | 11:46 |
| LaoLang_cool | merlin1991: thanks, will read it, but dinner time is up, dinner first ;p | 11:49 |
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| Macer | hm | 14:48 |
| Macer | well it seems that without widgets the battery is lasting a lot longer | 14:48 |
| Macer | when in sleep mode | 14:48 |
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| Timmy | where can i set my avatar on forums? | 17:45 |
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| Sicelo | http://talk.maemo.org/usercp.php | 17:49 |
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| Sicelo | more directly, http://talk.maemo.org/profile.php?do=editavatar | 17:49 |
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| Timmy | no choice for me except "Do not use an avatar" | 17:51 |
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| Timmy | i have installed uboot on my device, can i simply remove that and install multiboot instead? | 20:44 |
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| NIN102 | ~multiboot | 20:45 |
| infobot | methinks multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ | 20:45 |
| NIN102 | hmm I thought multiboot is depricated and a horrible hack... | 20:46 |
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| Sicelo | damn.. lost stylus at last | 20:47 |
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| Timmy | NIN102: i want to install nitdroid on my device. i have uboot on my device but dunno how to remove that and install multiboot instead | 20:48 |
| Timmy | im afraid it trash my phone | 20:49 |
| Timmy | es | 20:49 |
| NIN102 | I also dunno, and I don't want to know, I know nothing about nitdroid and I don't want to change that :-). | 20:49 |
| Timmy | NIN102: i have android, but it has a lot of killing apps i like to run on my device | 20:50 |
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| Timmy | i really like to run meego but meego is not ready :( | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | heh | 20:52 |
| Timmy | i hate microsoft, that's all because of that | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | what are those? | 20:52 |
| Timmy | which? | 20:53 |
| Sicelo | killing apps | 20:54 |
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| Timmy | angry birds :D | 20:56 |
| Sicelo | lol, angry birds needs nitdroid? | 20:58 |
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| Raimu | The free one at least. | 21:24 |
| Raimu | free bird :p | 21:25 |
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| Khertan | ~nitdroid | 21:32 |
| infobot | i guess nitdroid is Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco. | 21:32 |
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| Timmy | Pali: what's the latest version of u-boot u have developed? | 22:08 |
| Pali | Timmy, last version is in TMO thread | 22:08 |
| Pali | link: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 | 22:09 |
| Timmy | Pali: this:u-boot-bootimg_2011.12-1_armel.deb? | 22:10 |
| Pali | version from that first post is current version | 22:10 |
| Timmy | ok, thank u. | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | NIN102: | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~maemo-multiboot | 22:12 |
| infobot | methinks maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED | 22:12 |
| NIN102 | ah ok. | 22:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Timmy: Raimu: you're aware that probably first version of angrybirds ever shipped with N900 PR1.0? for free! | 22:19 |
| Macer | heh | 22:19 |
| Timmy | really? | 22:19 |
| Macer | http://code.google.com/p/n900ipv6/ | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | or maybe it's been PR1.0.1 or even 1.1 | 22:20 |
| Macer | hm | 22:20 |
| Timmy | but that was in the past, look further, they have released a free version of space edition for android | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | so you probably should have bought an adroid device instead of N900 | 22:21 |
| Timmy | no, i wanted a swiss knife | 22:21 |
| Timmy | my phone has this potential to handle all of them, why not to use this potential? | 22:22 |
| Timmy | i want to uninstall my u-boot and install that one which pali has developed. there are some articles about this but idk which one works.im afriad of this trash my phone | 22:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you really want an answer: my evaluation of potential harm and hassle vs crappy quality of nitroid, from an already crappy android quality, that's for me why not | 22:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | uboot and multiboot are particularly incompatible | 22:25 |
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| Timmy | DocScrutinizer: cool down bro, :-S im only a tester. i like to test new things | 22:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | and multiboot during each boot creates a several tens of second period when your device is in concrete danger to get "bricked" and needing a full reflash. Multibot is flashing kernels during boot, something I do with extreme care, at home, and in a controlled environment usually with aid of PC | 22:28 |
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| Sicelo | how long have you had you N900 Timmy? | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | s/u N/ur N/ | 22:29 |
| Timmy | since past summer | 22:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~status | 22:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot: ping | 22:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | uhuh | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 22:32 |
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| Timmy | what i really liked about n900 was meego which is dead, :'( . had it on my netbook and wanted to have it on my cellphone but it's dead. | 22:32 |
| Sicelo | use Nemo/Mer :/ | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, it's arguable | 22:33 |
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| Sicelo | i'd definitely use that over nitdroid | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | "meego never was alive on N900" is a similarly valid statement | 22:34 |
| Timmy | Sicelo: had it untill 1 hour ago, it was useless | 22:34 |
| Timmy | reformated my sdcard to install nitdroid | 22:35 |
| Sicelo | useless in what way? | 22:36 |
| Timmy | Sicelo: there were nothin in its repositories, phone doesn't work, no 3G or 2G, incomplete settings and the worst was the terminal without necessary keys | 22:39 |
| Timmy | Tab and Esc | 22:39 |
| Timmy | also battery indicator didn't work for me | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | you made a mistake.. i'm positive 3g/2g works | 22:40 |
| Timmy | there was no sound and no codecs to install and no mplayer | 22:40 |
| Timmy | Sicelo: i tried so hard but could not find anything, | 22:40 |
| Sicelo | Timmy: i use their kernel to boot debian.. and i had a 3g problem that i could only solve after consulting their bugzilla.. so i know 3g/2g works for them.. and i'm willing to bet phone does, to some extent :/ | 22:42 |
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| * Timmy thinks there is nothin between use to fight for or struggle on, i think nokia is responsible for this problem, they have stoped supporting maemo and meego which causes no further updates, and also they dont release source code of many important things for developing them. i think nokia is guilty. | 22:48 | |
| Timmy | err, use=us | 22:48 |
| Sicelo | nitdroid won't fix that though | 22:49 |
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| Timmy | yes, i was thinking about developing maemo and poor meego | 22:50 |
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